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Source says Giants will interview Dave DeGuglielmo for their OL coach job. Was on Patriots staff with Joe Judge 2014-15.
Folks are somewhat down on this guy, but he’s been the OL coach for 2 Super Bowl winning teams. Also Colts OL coach in 2018 when they had a great unit.
I guess my question is...what are the concerns with him?
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DeGuglielmo spent time with the Giants from 2004-08. Return could be on the horizon. Also likely signals Bill Callahan is headed elsewhere.
Folks are somewhat down on this guy, but he’s been the OL coach for 2 Super Bowl winning teams. Also Colts OL coach in 2018 when they had a great unit.
I guess my question is...what are the concerns with him?
The negative narrative on DeGuglielmo is that the Pats had to get Dante Scarnecchia to come out of retirement and replace Deguglielmo when he couldn't pass muster.
Any particular reason for that sentiment? Honest question there as I said I admittedly don't know a whole lot other than doing a google search and looking at the history.
In his tenure, the Giants made the playoffs four consecutive years, won Super Bowl XLII, and set a franchise record for rushing yards (2,518) and yards per carry (5.0) in 2008
Afterwards, he held the same job for the Miami Dolphins; in 2011 the Dolphins rushed for 1,987 yards in what was also Reggie Bush's first 1,000-yard season.
Thats better than anything Hal Nunter has ever done
Folks are somewhat down on this guy, but he’s been the OL coach for 2 Super Bowl winning teams. Also Colts OL coach in 2018 when they had a great unit.
I guess my question is...what are the concerns with him?
He never seems to last anywhere. Got fired in Indy (although that was more McDaniels' fault than his own), and got fired in Miami last year. This would be his 5th new team in 5 years.
His latest Dolphins firing is a cause for concern. He was a stopgap replacement when Flaherty was abruptly fired earlier in the season. He didn’t do a good enough job to warrant being brought back, despite being well qualified for the position.
Any particular reason for that sentiment? Honest question there as I said I admittedly don't know a whole lot other than doing a google search and looking at the history.
Long story short ... He doesn't sound good at his job and teams are always replacing him. Brady couldn't stand him and wanted him gone. I want someone with a proven track record. I'd rather have Callahan or Columbo as has been reported. This is the one area that needs top notch coaching and I don't feel if he is that guy. Every team needs help along the OL in the NFL. Good coaches at that position don't bounce around for lateral moves.
is a giant red flag. Maybe the Colts thing is on the McDaniels fiasco but last year Flores fired Flaherty to make room for him...and then fired him after one season. And of course BB fired him too.
And I hope they take their time and hire the right guy. Not sure Gugs is it. I’m not sure why the well regarded college OL coaches shouldn’t be looked at carefully.
The guy I wanted, John Matsko, was immediately rehired by Rivera when he took the job with the Redskins.
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Any particular reason for that sentiment? Honest question there as I said I admittedly don't know a whole lot other than doing a google search and looking at the history.
Long story short ... He doesn't sound good at his job and teams are always replacing him. Brady couldn't stand him and wanted him gone. I want someone with a proven track record. I'd rather have Callahan or Columbo as has been reported. This is the one area that needs top notch coaching and I don't feel if he is that guy. Every team needs help along the OL in the NFL. Good coaches at that position don't bounce around for lateral moves.
Gotcha. Hoping Judge will do his due diligence here bring in the right guy, from everything he's said so far I'd have to believe he will, but we shall see. Hopefully they'll reach out to Columbo as well.
on WFAN - female can't remember her name - saying she would be absolutely shocked if Callahan took a job reporting to Garrett.
She pointed out that not only did Garrett fire Callahan as his play caller but then he blocked him from leaving until his contract expired the following year.
Now of course it's possible Jerry made all those decisions so who knows. Just repeating what I heard.
but he's certainly bounced around the last few years, Miami in 2017, Indy in 2018 and Miami in 2019.
Indy hired Reich in 2018, so the change going to Miami wasn't due to a staff cleansing, anyone know why he went from Indy back to Miami?
I like that he was a part of 2 SB's, so he knows what it takes at least and has proven success I would say?
He might've been hired by McDaniels in 2018 before he jumped ship. I think Reich kept on most (all?) of the staff that McDaniels had put in place. From the article above, sounds like Reich then wanted his own guy for 2019:
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NFL Network's Tom Pelissero added there were rumblings of a possible change over the past month as Reich and DeGuglielmo weren't on the same page, despite the success. The Colts ranked No. 2 in the NFL in pass blocking and No. 4 in run blocking in 2018, per Football Outsiders' metrics.
Folks are somewhat down on this guy, but he’s been the OL coach for 2 Super Bowl winning teams. Also Colts OL coach in 2018 when they had a great unit.
I guess my question is...what are the concerns with him?
The negative narrative on DeGuglielmo is that the Pats had to get Dante Scarnecchia to come out of retirement and replace Deguglielmo when he couldn't pass muster.
Certainly possible, but why would 2 New England guys then bring DeGuglielmo with them? McDaniels lured him to Indy before bailing and then Flores brought him into Miami.
Though the Colts front office and coaching staff did everything they could to help Good in his time of need, the former seventh-round pick told Vic Tafur of The Athletic that there were issues with offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo.
“I came back after my brother was murdered and I was dealing with a lot of personal issues,” Good told The Athletic. “That didn’t sit well with (DeGuglielmo). He wanted players that fight through things and play.”
Though the Colts front office and coaching staff did everything they could to help Good in his time of need, the former seventh-round pick told Vic Tafur of The Athletic that there were issues with offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo.
“I came back after my brother was murdered and I was dealing with a lot of personal issues,” Good told The Athletic. “That didn’t sit well with (DeGuglielmo). He wanted players that fight through things and play.”
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Sounds like a real winner.
It's pretty clear that Judge is really only comfortable with hiring Â
guys he's familiar with. Obviously the exception is Jason Garrett and that's probably because there may have been no former head coaches who Judge worked with and it's imperative for a first-time head coach to have a soundboard. Besides, there is the Nick Saban connection.
and I hope Judge is willing to look at coaches that he has never met, but have great reputations and similar coaching philosophies.
If you think about the Judge hire, he had never met Mara or Tisch, but Judge had a great reputation and was highly recommended by some of the very best football minds. Judge sold himself during his face to face interview and the high recommendations of others.
A few years ago, the Atlanta Falcons took a chance on Keith Carter as their O line coach. Grabbed him mostly on his solid reputation and work at San Jose State. Got the Falcons to the Super Bowl, and has since moved to the Tennessee Titans and done a really great job.
If you look at Zac Taylor, the young head coach of the Bengals, he did something similar. Went to the college ranks and grabbed Jim Turner from Texas A and M to be his offensive line coach. Its too early to tell how that will work out in Cincy, but clearly Taylor took a college coach who was respected as being one of the best at that level.
We don't really know what Judge is doing to evaluate possible candidates. I just hope that the biggest selling point on any coach hire is that "we used to work together".
Though the Colts front office and coaching staff did everything they could to help Good in his time of need, the former seventh-round pick told Vic Tafur of The Athletic that there were issues with offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo.
“I came back after my brother was murdered and I was dealing with a lot of personal issues,” Good told The Athletic. “That didn’t sit well with (DeGuglielmo). He wanted players that fight through things and play.”
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If this story is true, it's not exactly a great look.
That Good story doesn’t matter because none of our linemen Â
results than DeGuglielmo. We obviously don't know how effective these coaches are, but I agree, from an outsider's perspective, hiring DeGuglielmo would be incredibly uninspiring.
RE: That Good story doesn’t matter because none of our linemen Â
and I hope Judge is willing to look at coaches that he has never met, but have great reputations and similar coaching philosophies.
If you think about the Judge hire, he had never met Mara or Tisch, but Judge had a great reputation and was highly recommended by some of the very best football minds. Judge sold himself during his face to face interview and the high recommendations of others.
A few years ago, the Atlanta Falcons took a chance on Keith Carter as their O line coach. Grabbed him mostly on his solid reputation and work at San Jose State. Got the Falcons to the Super Bowl, and has since moved to the Tennessee Titans and done a really great job.
If you look at Zac Taylor, the young head coach of the Bengals, he did something similar. Went to the college ranks and grabbed Jim Turner from Texas A and M to be his offensive line coach. Its too early to tell how that will work out in Cincy, but clearly Taylor took a college coach who was respected as being one of the best at that level.
We don't really know what Judge is doing to evaluate possible candidates. I just hope that the biggest selling point on any coach hire is that "we used to work together".
Having the relationship is a bonus but getting the absolute best teacher should be more important.
The Graham hire for DC is a big risk in my opinion too for that reason. Have to really hope he is the goods.
RE: Callahan, Colombo, Hiestand, and Campen all have produced better Â
results than DeGuglielmo. We obviously don't know how effective these coaches are, but I agree, from an outsider's perspective, hiring DeGuglielmo would be incredibly uninspiring.
Plenty to choose from ...need to get this hire right .
Art Stapleton
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Giants will interview Dave DeGuglielmo for OL coach, source confirms. @DanGrazianoESPN
had it 1st.
Expectation is Joe Judge will meet with Guge tomorrow. They worked together in NE in 2014-2015.
What does that mean for Bill Callahan and NYG interest? I’m told TBD, wait and see.
Art Stapleton
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To my knowledge, no interview with Giants scheduled for Callahan at the moment. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, but sounds like Callahan has other irons in the fire. We’ll see.
Does anyone tweet more while saying nothing than Art Stapleton? Â
as Assistant Oline Coach for 4 years. Ties to organization as well. He’s done some decent work, and there’s apparently reasons he’s bounced around a little. I don’t like the story about his interaction with the Colts OLineman that had a brother murdered, but who really knows how that went down. This is somewhat underwhelming, but he’d be better then Hunter at least. Link - ( New Window )
as Assistant Oline Coach for 4 years. Ties to organization as well. He’s done some decent work, and there’s apparently reasons he’s bounced around a little. I don’t like the story about his interaction with the Colts OLineman that had a brother murdered, but who really knows how that went down. This is somewhat underwhelming, but he’d be better then Hunter at least. Link - ( New Window )
What decent work has he done?
RE: Does anyone tweet more while saying nothing than Art Stapleton? Â
as Assistant Oline Coach for 4 years. Ties to organization as well. He’s done some decent work, and there’s apparently reasons he’s bounced around a little. I don’t like the story about his interaction with the Colts OLineman that had a brother murdered, but who really knows how that went down. This is somewhat underwhelming, but he’d be better then Hunter at least. Link - ( New Window )
"Better than Hunter" is a pretty low bar.
If Judge doesnt hire a proven OL coach I'm going to start worrying about his judgement. Especially with some of the names out there unemployed.
I know Judge is hiring guys he knows and guys tied to Patriots or Saban. Because Callahan has not signed, I figured he probably doesn’t want to work under Garrett.....so, I figured this guy would come into play.
I know there are two other guys available with much better track records so I hope Garrett has at least a say in who this guy will be. After all, if we get another coach who is not coaching up the boys, this will affect both Garrett and Judge, and of course, ultimately us.
Come on Judge and Garrett....get the RIGHT/BEST guy for the job, not just the guy you know best.
I know Judge is hiring guys he knows and guys tied to Patriots or Saban. Because Callahan has not signed, I figured he probably doesn’t want to work under Garrett.....so, I figured this guy would come into play.
I know there are two other guys available with much better track records so I hope Garrett has at least a say in who this guy will be. After all, if we get another coach who is not coaching up the boys, this will affect both Garrett and Judge, and of course, ultimately us.
Come on Judge and Garrett....get the RIGHT/BEST guy for the job, not just the guy you know best.
We have suffered through some pretty bad coaching the last few years. Get this hire right Giants!
Art Stapleton
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Giants will interview Dave DeGuglielmo for OL coach, source confirms. @DanGrazianoESPN
had it 1st.
Expectation is Joe Judge will meet with Guge tomorrow. They worked together in NE in 2014-2015.
What does that mean for Bill Callahan and NYG interest? I’m told TBD, wait and see.
Art Stapleton
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To my knowledge, no interview with Giants scheduled for Callahan at the moment. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, but sounds like Callahan has other irons in the fire. We’ll see.
So Callahan won’t even interview?! Hmmm odd, no? Unless he’s dead set on joining his son I guess.
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Look it up. No. 3 OL in the league with Jets. Won a Super Bowl with Pats first year that the great Dante Scarnecchia originally retired.
Oversaw the reclamation project in Indy. Jumped in last season in Miami in July when he wasn't slated to be OL coach.
about the guy but from the interviews and clips I see he seems like a hard nosed no bullshit, no excuses type guy. And quite honestly we need that. It might rub some players the wrong way, who gives a fuck. We need good tough OL on this roster. Guys like Hernandez could flourish under him.
I don’t know if he’d be a good hire, but considering the typical reporter covering teams these days, I’d say willingness to spit tobacco juice at them is a positive on his resume
The knock seems to be he is 'rough around the edges' Â
He was here 4 years, had good results here, worked with coach Judge for 2 years, and coached Solder for 2 years, Tom Coughlin and Belechick, the coach of 2 super bowl teams, the Giants set a franchise rushing record under him with 2,518, without a great running back or pro bowl offensive lineman. With the Dolphins Reggie Bush had his best years under him. Pats were hit with a lot of injuries, including a season ending injury to Solder in 2015. He seemed to have Indy heading in the right direction, but Reich wanted to bring in someone he knew. He had the Colts ranked 2nd in pass blocking and 4th in run blocking per football outsiders metrics. I think there is enough out there and enough personal experience with the Giants and Judge, plus he has had some impressive results.
as Assistant Oline Coach for 4 years. Ties to organization as well. He’s done some decent work, and there’s apparently reasons he’s bounced around a little. I don’t like the story about his interaction with the Colts OLineman that had a brother murdered, but who really knows how that went down. This is somewhat underwhelming, but he’d be better then Hunter at least. Link - ( New Window )
What decent work has he done?
Year he was with Colts, his Oline was top rated in both run and pass blocking. McDaniels was the guy that had him in place there when he was hired originally. Reich wanted his own guys. Maybe the ordeal with Good got him canned in Indy.
From NFL.com
“The Indianapolis Colts won't hold fast with their coaching staff under Frank Reich.
NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reports the Colts are letting go of offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo, according to a source informed of the decision. The team confirmed the move later Tuesday and announced that assistant offensive line coach Bobby Johnson had moved on to Buffalo to become the Bills' offensive line coach.
It's a surprising move considering the strides Indy's offensive line made in the first year under the new coaching staff. However, there is context behind the move. DeGuglielmo was the only offensive coach hired before Josh McDaniels turned his back on the Colts' job. Reich wants to bring in his own guy, per Garafolo.
NFL Network's Tom Pelissero added there were rumblings of a possible change over the past month as Reich and DeGuglielmo weren't on the same page, despite the success. The Colts ranked No. 2 in the NFL in pass blocking and No. 4 in run blocking in 2018, per Football Outsiders' metrics.
DeGuglielmo spent just one season in Indy after serving as the Miami Dolphins O-line coach in 2017. The 50-year-old has 13 years of NFL assistant experience, including two Super Bowl championships (Giants in SB XLII and Patriots in SB XLIX). Given his expertise and the need for solid offensive line coaches throughout much of the NFL, DeGuglielmo should have little trouble finding a landing spot. Garafolo adds that Reich is recommending him to other coaches.”
Rubs people the wrong way. He doesn’t appear to do a bad job, but doesn’t stay anywhere long
sounds like a throwback and some do not want too much talked to in a harsh manner that might crush their feelings. Wasn't he hear during our premier rushing years with Jacobs and Bradshaw? I do remember after he left our rushing stats dropped by 30% or more. Maybe he was doing Flaherty's job.
He should be a sizeable upgrade from Hal Hunter. #3 OL with the Jets , a top ranked OL with Indy. Won 2 Super Bowls. Had a horrible OL when he got let go in NE mostly due to injury.
and I hope Judge is willing to look at coaches that he has never met, but have great reputations and similar coaching philosophies.
If you think about the Judge hire, he had never met Mara or Tisch, but Judge had a great reputation and was highly recommended by some of the very best football minds. Judge sold himself during his face to face interview and the high recommendations of others.
A few years ago, the Atlanta Falcons took a chance on Keith Carter as their O line coach. Grabbed him mostly on his solid reputation and work at San Jose State. Got the Falcons to the Super Bowl, and has since moved to the Tennessee Titans and done a really great job.
If you look at Zac Taylor, the young head coach of the Bengals, he did something similar. Went to the college ranks and grabbed Jim Turner from Texas A and M to be his offensive line coach. Its too early to tell how that will work out in Cincy, but clearly Taylor took a college coach who was respected as being one of the best at that level.
We don't really know what Judge is doing to evaluate possible candidates. I just hope that the biggest selling point on any coach hire is that "we used to work together".
You know anything about the OL coach at U. of Wisconsin? They seem to turn out some pretty good players.
Expect to miss out on your first choice of assistants ( Callahan, Freddie roach etc). This guys been fired 3-4 times after 1 year stints and we are supposed to believe he’s going to help us win football games?
coaches that I hope would be considered for a role with our O Line
Brian Ferentz- Don't know if he would leave his Dad at Iowa, but he worked for Belichick at New England and could be considered for either O Line or Tight Ends
Tim Polasek- Current O Line coach at Iowa. Seems Iowa produces O Line talent to the NFL annually. (Wirfs)
Will Friend- as a player was an OG for Alabama. Currently at Tennessee but had great success at Georgia as well (Cordy Glenn, Ben Jones, John Theus)
Eric Wolford- Currently at South Carolina. He has been a college head coach and spent 2 years with the 49ers as asst O Line coach
Herb Hand- He is currently at Texas, but has also coached at Auburn (Braden Smith) and Penn State
For all we know, Joe Judge may have reached out to all these coaches. Perhaps known have interest in a career switch.
My point is that there are some very highly regarded O line coaches in the college ranks. Its still my belief that Coach Judge will be thorough in the process and make the right choice.
Judge never worked with Jason Garrett, and selected him based on a face to face meeting and his great reputation. Patience prevails. Lets pick the best fit at this critical position.
coaches that I hope would be considered for a role with our O Line
Brian Ferentz- Don't know if he would leave his Dad at Iowa, but he worked for Belichick at New England and could be considered for either O Line or Tight Ends
Tim Polasek- Current O Line coach at Iowa. Seems Iowa produces O Line talent to the NFL annually. (Wirfs)
Will Friend- as a player was an OG for Alabama. Currently at Tennessee but had great success at Georgia as well (Cordy Glenn, Ben Jones, John Theus)
Eric Wolford- Currently at South Carolina. He has been a college head coach and spent 2 years with the 49ers as asst O Line coach
Herb Hand- He is currently at Texas, but has also coached at Auburn (Braden Smith) and Penn State
For all we know, Joe Judge may have reached out to all these coaches. Perhaps known have interest in a career switch.
My point is that there are some very highly regarded O line coaches in the college ranks. Its still my belief that Coach Judge will be thorough in the process and make the right choice.
Judge never worked with Jason Garrett, and selected him based on a face to face meeting and his great reputation. Patience prevails. Lets pick the best fit at this critical position.
Rather have Marc Columbo who coached under Garrett.
Expect to miss out on your first choice of assistants ( Callahan, Freddie roach etc). This guys been fired 3-4 times after 1 year stints and we are supposed to believe he’s going to help us win football games?
Isn't that what we have done for several years now? Fire our OL coach. This makes no sense. every team and situation is different. Cleary the teams that are winning have no problems.
Expect to miss out on your first choice of assistants ( Callahan, Freddie roach etc). This guys been fired 3-4 times after 1 year stints and we are supposed to believe he’s going to help us win football games?
What is the rationale behind missing out on your first choice of assistants?
Is this based on anything other than pulling shit from one's ass?
Colts were 2 and 4 in run and pass block his one year there. Jets had #3 OL. NE did well but then was decimated by injury and he was let go. He apparently is more a rough personality vs. a bad OL coach. He seems to get OL playing well.
Overall step down from Callahan but probably big step up from Hunter.
Colts were 2 and 4 in run and pass block his one year there. Jets had #3 OL. NE did well but then was decimated by injury and he was let go. He apparently is more a rough personality vs. a bad OL coach. He seems to get OL playing well.
Overall step down from Callahan but probably big step up from Hunter.
Yep fantastic hire and Callahan was never even interviewed it sounds like. Judge and Garrett got their guy!
Apparently Freddie Roach might be leaving Ole Miss Â
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With Dave DeGuglielmo set to interview for OL job with #NYG tomorrow, this is story post-Guge firing in Indianapolis two years ago in which Colts teammates Quenton Nelson + Ryan Kelly defended his performance: https://indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2019/01/16/indianapolis-colts-quenton-nelson-center-ryan-kelly-dave-deguglielmo-fired-frank-reich/2594645002/ via
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With Dave DeGuglielmo set to interview for OL job with #NYG tomorrow, this is story post-Guge firing in Indianapolis two years ago in which Colts teammates Quenton Nelson + Ryan Kelly defended his performance: https://indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2019/01/16/indianapolis-colts-quenton-nelson-center-ryan-kelly-dave-deguglielmo-fired-frank-reich/2594645002/ via
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He got results. Seems to be a personality thing more than anything else.
Sold. Can we work incentives into his contract so thathe gets a bonus for stuff like that? Maybe 20 grand every time he makes someone in the media cry?
I made a list above of some well regarded college O line coaches, but you could certainly add Joe Rudolph of Wisconsin.
Rudolph actually played briefly in the NFL with the Eagles and 49ers.
Rudolph coached at U of Pitt as well.
Rudolph isn’t going anywhere. The guy to get is actually Bob Bostad who was the architect of the line when they had Wagner, Ziegler, Fredericks, Carimi, Groy, Havenstein, etc etc. Hes coaching LBs for the badgers now for a reason no one can quite figure out.
I made a list above of some well regarded college O line coaches, but you could certainly add Joe Rudolph of Wisconsin.
Rudolph actually played briefly in the NFL with the Eagles and 49ers.
Rudolph coached at U of Pitt as well.
Rudolph isn’t going anywhere. The guy to get is actually Bob Bostad who was the architect of the line when they had Wagner, Ziegler, Fredericks, Carimi, Groy, Havenstein, etc etc. Hes coaching LBs for the badgers now for a reason no one can quite figure out.
Why do you think Rudolph isn't going anywhere? He's kinda been at Assistant Coach/OC for a while and this could be a 'promotion'.
"DeGuglielmo is a much-traveled offensive line coach with strong ties to Tom Coughlin. It was Coughlin who gave DeGuglielmo his start at Boston College in 1991. Coughlin brought DeGuglielmo to the Giants in 2004 and he stayed through the 2008 season. Since then, DeGuglielmo has worked for the Jets, Patriots, Chargers, Dolphins, Colts and Dolphins again, last season."
Isn't TC advising Rhule? If so, why isn't DG hired there?
I made a list above of some well regarded college O line coaches, but you could certainly add Joe Rudolph of Wisconsin.
Rudolph actually played briefly in the NFL with the Eagles and 49ers.
Rudolph coached at U of Pitt as well.
Rudolph isn’t going anywhere. The guy to get is actually Bob Bostad who was the architect of the line when they had Wagner, Ziegler, Fredericks, Carimi, Groy, Havenstein, etc etc. Hes coaching LBs for the badgers now for a reason no one can quite figure out.
Why do you think Rudolph isn't going anywhere? He's kinda been at Assistant Coach/OC for a while and this could be a 'promotion'.
OC at Wisconsin to OL coach at the Giants isn't a promotion
Folks are somewhat down on this guy, but he’s been the OL coach for 2 Super Bowl winning teams. Also Colts OL coach in 2018 when they had a great unit.
I guess my question is...what are the concerns with him?
He never seems to last anywhere. Got fired in Indy (although that was more McDaniels' fault than his own), and got fired in Miami last year. This would be his 5th new team in 5 years.
DeGuglielmo was THE REASON Belichick went and coaxed Scarnecchia out of retirement.
Folks are somewhat down on this guy, but he’s been the OL coach for 2 Super Bowl winning teams. Also Colts OL coach in 2018 when they had a great unit.
I guess my question is...what are the concerns with him?
He never seems to last anywhere. Got fired in Indy (although that was more McDaniels' fault than his own), and got fired in Miami last year. This would be his 5th new team in 5 years.
DeGuglielmo was THE REASON Belichick went and coaxed Scarnecchia out of retirement.
Amazing the knowledge you possess about Pats’ Central
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Source says Giants will interview Dave DeGuglielmo for their OL coach job. Was on Patriots staff with Joe Judge 2014-15.
I guess my question is...what are the concerns with him?
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DeGuglielmo spent time with the Giants from 2004-08. Return could be on the horizon. Also likely signals Bill Callahan is headed elsewhere.
I guess my question is...what are the concerns with him?
The negative narrative on DeGuglielmo is that the Pats had to get Dante Scarnecchia to come out of retirement and replace Deguglielmo when he couldn't pass muster.
Indy hired Reich in 2018, so the change going to Miami wasn't due to a staff cleansing, anyone know why he went from Indy back to Miami?
I like that he was a part of 2 SB's, so he knows what it takes at least and has proven success I would say?
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I read in another thread he may be headed to Cinci to work with his son
In his tenure, the Giants made the playoffs four consecutive years, won Super Bowl XLII, and set a franchise record for rushing yards (2,518) and yards per carry (5.0) in 2008
Afterwards, he held the same job for the Miami Dolphins; in 2011 the Dolphins rushed for 1,987 yards in what was also Reggie Bush's first 1,000-yard season.
Thats better than anything Hal Nunter has ever done
I guess my question is...what are the concerns with him?
He never seems to last anywhere. Got fired in Indy (although that was more McDaniels' fault than his own), and got fired in Miami last year. This would be his 5th new team in 5 years.
The more I look into his background, the more I dislike it.
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Long story short ... He doesn't sound good at his job and teams are always replacing him. Brady couldn't stand him and wanted him gone. I want someone with a proven track record. I'd rather have Callahan or Columbo as has been reported. This is the one area that needs top notch coaching and I don't feel if he is that guy. Every team needs help along the OL in the NFL. Good coaches at that position don't bounce around for lateral moves.
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Hunter seemed to be about as bad as they come so hopefully Dave would be an upgrade
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"spitting tobacco juice at reporters"
Way to keep classy "Guge."
Wonder if Rex Ryan fired him for being too combative...lol.
The guy I wanted, John Matsko, was immediately rehired by Rivera when he took the job with the Redskins.
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Any particular reason for that sentiment? Honest question there as I said I admittedly don't know a whole lot other than doing a google search and looking at the history.
Long story short ... He doesn't sound good at his job and teams are always replacing him. Brady couldn't stand him and wanted him gone. I want someone with a proven track record. I'd rather have Callahan or Columbo as has been reported. This is the one area that needs top notch coaching and I don't feel if he is that guy. Every team needs help along the OL in the NFL. Good coaches at that position don't bounce around for lateral moves.
Gotcha. Hoping Judge will do his due diligence here bring in the right guy, from everything he's said so far I'd have to believe he will, but we shall see. Hopefully they'll reach out to Columbo as well.
She pointed out that not only did Garrett fire Callahan as his play caller but then he blocked him from leaving until his contract expired the following year.
Now of course it's possible Jerry made all those decisions so who knows. Just repeating what I heard.
Indy hired Reich in 2018, so the change going to Miami wasn't due to a staff cleansing, anyone know why he went from Indy back to Miami?
I like that he was a part of 2 SB's, so he knows what it takes at least and has proven success I would say?
He might've been hired by McDaniels in 2018 before he jumped ship. I think Reich kept on most (all?) of the staff that McDaniels had put in place. From the article above, sounds like Reich then wanted his own guy for 2019:
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Folks are somewhat down on this guy, but he’s been the OL coach for 2 Super Bowl winning teams. Also Colts OL coach in 2018 when they had a great unit.
I guess my question is...what are the concerns with him?
The negative narrative on DeGuglielmo is that the Pats had to get Dante Scarnecchia to come out of retirement and replace Deguglielmo when he couldn't pass muster.
Certainly possible, but why would 2 New England guys then bring DeGuglielmo with them? McDaniels lured him to Indy before bailing and then Flores brought him into Miami.
“I came back after my brother was murdered and I was dealing with a lot of personal issues,” Good told The Athletic. “That didn’t sit well with (DeGuglielmo). He wanted players that fight through things and play.”
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Though the Colts front office and coaching staff did everything they could to help Good in his time of need, the former seventh-round pick told Vic Tafur of The Athletic that there were issues with offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo.
“I came back after my brother was murdered and I was dealing with a lot of personal issues,” Good told The Athletic. “That didn’t sit well with (DeGuglielmo). He wanted players that fight through things and play.”
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Sounds like a real winner.
If you think about the Judge hire, he had never met Mara or Tisch, but Judge had a great reputation and was highly recommended by some of the very best football minds. Judge sold himself during his face to face interview and the high recommendations of others.
A few years ago, the Atlanta Falcons took a chance on Keith Carter as their O line coach. Grabbed him mostly on his solid reputation and work at San Jose State. Got the Falcons to the Super Bowl, and has since moved to the Tennessee Titans and done a really great job.
If you look at Zac Taylor, the young head coach of the Bengals, he did something similar. Went to the college ranks and grabbed Jim Turner from Texas A and M to be his offensive line coach. Its too early to tell how that will work out in Cincy, but clearly Taylor took a college coach who was respected as being one of the best at that level.
We don't really know what Judge is doing to evaluate possible candidates. I just hope that the biggest selling point on any coach hire is that "we used to work together".
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Though the Colts front office and coaching staff did everything they could to help Good in his time of need, the former seventh-round pick told Vic Tafur of The Athletic that there were issues with offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo.
“I came back after my brother was murdered and I was dealing with a lot of personal issues,” Good told The Athletic. “That didn’t sit well with (DeGuglielmo). He wanted players that fight through things and play.”
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If this story is true, it's not exactly a great look.
Right now they're not. But who's to say they won't in the future?
Why does every non-hire come down to "money" or the Giants being cheap? Just patently false.
I seriously doubt that cheap is the issue after all these years of shitty football.
Uhhh, you know about Nate Solder's son, right?
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Are experiencing any personal issues right now.
Uhhh, you know about Nate Solder's son, right?
Sorry. Missed the sarcasm.
Ah, okay. I thought you might be, but wasn't sure. Well played, sir.
He's a journeyman.
Jets for one year
New England for two years
San Diego for one year
Miami for one year
Indianapolis for one year
Back to Miami for one year
Not exactly a beacon of stability
If you think about the Judge hire, he had never met Mara or Tisch, but Judge had a great reputation and was highly recommended by some of the very best football minds. Judge sold himself during his face to face interview and the high recommendations of others.
A few years ago, the Atlanta Falcons took a chance on Keith Carter as their O line coach. Grabbed him mostly on his solid reputation and work at San Jose State. Got the Falcons to the Super Bowl, and has since moved to the Tennessee Titans and done a really great job.
If you look at Zac Taylor, the young head coach of the Bengals, he did something similar. Went to the college ranks and grabbed Jim Turner from Texas A and M to be his offensive line coach. Its too early to tell how that will work out in Cincy, but clearly Taylor took a college coach who was respected as being one of the best at that level.
We don't really know what Judge is doing to evaluate possible candidates. I just hope that the biggest selling point on any coach hire is that "we used to work together".
Having the relationship is a bonus but getting the absolute best teacher should be more important.
The Graham hire for DC is a big risk in my opinion too for that reason. Have to really hope he is the goods.
Plenty to choose from ...need to get this hire right .
Not really
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Giants will interview Dave DeGuglielmo for OL coach, source confirms. @DanGrazianoESPN
had it 1st.
Expectation is Joe Judge will meet with Guge tomorrow. They worked together in NE in 2014-2015.
What does that mean for Bill Callahan and NYG interest? I’m told TBD, wait and see.
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To my knowledge, no interview with Giants scheduled for Callahan at the moment. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, but sounds like Callahan has other irons in the fire. We’ll see.
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What decent work has he done?
Ralph
"Better than Hunter" is a pretty low bar.
If Judge doesnt hire a proven OL coach I'm going to start worrying about his judgement. Especially with some of the names out there unemployed.
I know there are two other guys available with much better track records so I hope Garrett has at least a say in who this guy will be. After all, if we get another coach who is not coaching up the boys, this will affect both Garrett and Judge, and of course, ultimately us.
Come on Judge and Garrett....get the RIGHT/BEST guy for the job, not just the guy you know best.
I know there are two other guys available with much better track records so I hope Garrett has at least a say in who this guy will be. After all, if we get another coach who is not coaching up the boys, this will affect both Garrett and Judge, and of course, ultimately us.
Come on Judge and Garrett....get the RIGHT/BEST guy for the job, not just the guy you know best.
We have suffered through some pretty bad coaching the last few years. Get this hire right Giants!
I wonder if Callahan just doesn’t want to be under Garrett.
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Giants will interview Dave DeGuglielmo for OL coach, source confirms. @DanGrazianoESPN
had it 1st.
Expectation is Joe Judge will meet with Guge tomorrow. They worked together in NE in 2014-2015.
What does that mean for Bill Callahan and NYG interest? I’m told TBD, wait and see.
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To my knowledge, no interview with Giants scheduled for Callahan at the moment. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, but sounds like Callahan has other irons in the fire. We’ll see.
So Callahan won’t even interview?! Hmmm odd, no? Unless he’s dead set on joining his son I guess.
Look it up. No. 3 OL in the league with Jets. Won a Super Bowl with Pats first year that the great Dante Scarnecchia originally retired.
Oversaw the reclamation project in Indy. Jumped in last season in Miami in July when he wasn't slated to be OL coach.
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"spitting tobacco juice at reporters"
Way to keep classy "Guge."
I don’t know if he’d be a good hire, but considering the typical reporter covering teams these days, I’d say willingness to spit tobacco juice at them is a positive on his resume
Might instill a toughness for this OL which severely underwhelmed in that category under Hunter .
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as Assistant Oline Coach for 4 years. Ties to organization as well. He’s done some decent work, and there’s apparently reasons he’s bounced around a little. I don’t like the story about his interaction with the Colts OLineman that had a brother murdered, but who really knows how that went down. This is somewhat underwhelming, but he’d be better then Hunter at least. Link - ( New Window )
What decent work has he done?
Year he was with Colts, his Oline was top rated in both run and pass blocking. McDaniels was the guy that had him in place there when he was hired originally. Reich wanted his own guys. Maybe the ordeal with Good got him canned in Indy.
From NFL.com
“The Indianapolis Colts won't hold fast with their coaching staff under Frank Reich.
NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reports the Colts are letting go of offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo, according to a source informed of the decision. The team confirmed the move later Tuesday and announced that assistant offensive line coach Bobby Johnson had moved on to Buffalo to become the Bills' offensive line coach.
It's a surprising move considering the strides Indy's offensive line made in the first year under the new coaching staff. However, there is context behind the move. DeGuglielmo was the only offensive coach hired before Josh McDaniels turned his back on the Colts' job. Reich wants to bring in his own guy, per Garafolo.
NFL Network's Tom Pelissero added there were rumblings of a possible change over the past month as Reich and DeGuglielmo weren't on the same page, despite the success. The Colts ranked No. 2 in the NFL in pass blocking and No. 4 in run blocking in 2018, per Football Outsiders' metrics.
DeGuglielmo spent just one season in Indy after serving as the Miami Dolphins O-line coach in 2017. The 50-year-old has 13 years of NFL assistant experience, including two Super Bowl championships (Giants in SB XLII and Patriots in SB XLIX). Given his expertise and the need for solid offensive line coaches throughout much of the NFL, DeGuglielmo should have little trouble finding a landing spot. Garafolo adds that Reich is recommending him to other coaches.”
sounds like a throwback and some do not want too much talked to in a harsh manner that might crush their feelings. Wasn't he hear during our premier rushing years with Jacobs and Bradshaw? I do remember after he left our rushing stats dropped by 30% or more. Maybe he was doing Flaherty's job.
My impression is just that, based off of interviews.
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Rubs people the wrong way. He doesn’t appear to do a bad job, but doesn’t stay anywhere long
My impression is just that, based off of interviews.
Kind of like Todd Haley. Was considered a top OC at one time but was a bit of a head case. Maybe not to that extreme though.
Abrasive, surely.
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If you think about the Judge hire, he had never met Mara or Tisch, but Judge had a great reputation and was highly recommended by some of the very best football minds. Judge sold himself during his face to face interview and the high recommendations of others.
A few years ago, the Atlanta Falcons took a chance on Keith Carter as their O line coach. Grabbed him mostly on his solid reputation and work at San Jose State. Got the Falcons to the Super Bowl, and has since moved to the Tennessee Titans and done a really great job.
If you look at Zac Taylor, the young head coach of the Bengals, he did something similar. Went to the college ranks and grabbed Jim Turner from Texas A and M to be his offensive line coach. Its too early to tell how that will work out in Cincy, but clearly Taylor took a college coach who was respected as being one of the best at that level.
We don't really know what Judge is doing to evaluate possible candidates. I just hope that the biggest selling point on any coach hire is that "we used to work together".
You know anything about the OL coach at U. of Wisconsin? They seem to turn out some pretty good players.
Brian Ferentz- Don't know if he would leave his Dad at Iowa, but he worked for Belichick at New England and could be considered for either O Line or Tight Ends
Tim Polasek- Current O Line coach at Iowa. Seems Iowa produces O Line talent to the NFL annually. (Wirfs)
Will Friend- as a player was an OG for Alabama. Currently at Tennessee but had great success at Georgia as well (Cordy Glenn, Ben Jones, John Theus)
Eric Wolford- Currently at South Carolina. He has been a college head coach and spent 2 years with the 49ers as asst O Line coach
Herb Hand- He is currently at Texas, but has also coached at Auburn (Braden Smith) and Penn State
For all we know, Joe Judge may have reached out to all these coaches. Perhaps known have interest in a career switch.
My point is that there are some very highly regarded O line coaches in the college ranks. Its still my belief that Coach Judge will be thorough in the process and make the right choice.
Judge never worked with Jason Garrett, and selected him based on a face to face meeting and his great reputation. Patience prevails. Lets pick the best fit at this critical position.
Brian Ferentz- Don't know if he would leave his Dad at Iowa, but he worked for Belichick at New England and could be considered for either O Line or Tight Ends
Tim Polasek- Current O Line coach at Iowa. Seems Iowa produces O Line talent to the NFL annually. (Wirfs)
Will Friend- as a player was an OG for Alabama. Currently at Tennessee but had great success at Georgia as well (Cordy Glenn, Ben Jones, John Theus)
Eric Wolford- Currently at South Carolina. He has been a college head coach and spent 2 years with the 49ers as asst O Line coach
Herb Hand- He is currently at Texas, but has also coached at Auburn (Braden Smith) and Penn State
For all we know, Joe Judge may have reached out to all these coaches. Perhaps known have interest in a career switch.
My point is that there are some very highly regarded O line coaches in the college ranks. Its still my belief that Coach Judge will be thorough in the process and make the right choice.
Judge never worked with Jason Garrett, and selected him based on a face to face meeting and his great reputation. Patience prevails. Lets pick the best fit at this critical position.
Rather have Marc Columbo who coached under Garrett.
Rudolph actually played briefly in the NFL with the Eagles and 49ers.
Rudolph coached at U of Pitt as well.
Rudolph actually played briefly in the NFL with the Eagles and 49ers.
Rudolph coached at U of Pitt as well.
thanks, Y28
Isn't that what we have done for several years now? Fire our OL coach. This makes no sense. every team and situation is different. Cleary the teams that are winning have no problems.
What is the rationale behind missing out on your first choice of assistants?
Is this based on anything other than pulling shit from one's ass?
😂😂😂🤡
Overall step down from Callahan but probably big step up from Hunter.
Too much turnover, hence getting nowhere fast as usual
Overall step down from Callahan but probably big step up from Hunter.
Yep fantastic hire and Callahan was never even interviewed it sounds like. Judge and Garrett got their guy!
maybe a few days with Kiffin ..lol...that program is crooked as a stick.
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With Dave DeGuglielmo set to interview for OL job with #NYG tomorrow, this is story post-Guge firing in Indianapolis two years ago in which Colts teammates Quenton Nelson + Ryan Kelly defended his performance: https://indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2019/01/16/indianapolis-colts-quenton-nelson-center-ryan-kelly-dave-deguglielmo-fired-frank-reich/2594645002/ via
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With Dave DeGuglielmo set to interview for OL job with #NYG tomorrow, this is story post-Guge firing in Indianapolis two years ago in which Colts teammates Quenton Nelson + Ryan Kelly defended his performance: https://indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2019/01/16/indianapolis-colts-quenton-nelson-center-ryan-kelly-dave-deguglielmo-fired-frank-reich/2594645002/ via
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He got results. Seems to be a personality thing more than anything else.
Yaah...a funny.
And its Mr. Jimmy DeGoogs to you...get with the program
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"spitting tobacco juice at reporters"
Way to keep classy "Guge."
Sold. Can we work incentives into his contract so thathe gets a bonus for stuff like that? Maybe 20 grand every time he makes someone in the media cry?
Rudolph actually played briefly in the NFL with the Eagles and 49ers.
Rudolph coached at U of Pitt as well.
Rudolph isn’t going anywhere. The guy to get is actually Bob Bostad who was the architect of the line when they had Wagner, Ziegler, Fredericks, Carimi, Groy, Havenstein, etc etc. Hes coaching LBs for the badgers now for a reason no one can quite figure out.
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I made a list above of some well regarded college O line coaches, but you could certainly add Joe Rudolph of Wisconsin.
Rudolph actually played briefly in the NFL with the Eagles and 49ers.
Rudolph coached at U of Pitt as well.
Rudolph isn’t going anywhere. The guy to get is actually Bob Bostad who was the architect of the line when they had Wagner, Ziegler, Fredericks, Carimi, Groy, Havenstein, etc etc. Hes coaching LBs for the badgers now for a reason no one can quite figure out.
Why do you think Rudolph isn't going anywhere? He's kinda been at Assistant Coach/OC for a while and this could be a 'promotion'.
"DeGuglielmo is a much-traveled offensive line coach with strong ties to Tom Coughlin. It was Coughlin who gave DeGuglielmo his start at Boston College in 1991. Coughlin brought DeGuglielmo to the Giants in 2004 and he stayed through the 2008 season. Since then, DeGuglielmo has worked for the Jets, Patriots, Chargers, Dolphins, Colts and Dolphins again, last season."
Isn't TC advising Rhule? If so, why isn't DG hired there?
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I made a list above of some well regarded college O line coaches, but you could certainly add Joe Rudolph of Wisconsin.
Rudolph actually played briefly in the NFL with the Eagles and 49ers.
Rudolph coached at U of Pitt as well.
Rudolph isn’t going anywhere. The guy to get is actually Bob Bostad who was the architect of the line when they had Wagner, Ziegler, Fredericks, Carimi, Groy, Havenstein, etc etc. Hes coaching LBs for the badgers now for a reason no one can quite figure out.
Why do you think Rudolph isn't going anywhere? He's kinda been at Assistant Coach/OC for a while and this could be a 'promotion'.
OC at Wisconsin to OL coach at the Giants isn't a promotion
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Folks are somewhat down on this guy, but he’s been the OL coach for 2 Super Bowl winning teams. Also Colts OL coach in 2018 when they had a great unit.
I guess my question is...what are the concerns with him?
He never seems to last anywhere. Got fired in Indy (although that was more McDaniels' fault than his own), and got fired in Miami last year. This would be his 5th new team in 5 years.
DeGuglielmo was THE REASON Belichick went and coaxed Scarnecchia out of retirement.
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Folks are somewhat down on this guy, but he’s been the OL coach for 2 Super Bowl winning teams. Also Colts OL coach in 2018 when they had a great unit.
I guess my question is...what are the concerns with him?
He never seems to last anywhere. Got fired in Indy (although that was more McDaniels' fault than his own), and got fired in Miami last year. This would be his 5th new team in 5 years.
DeGuglielmo was THE REASON Belichick went and coaxed Scarnecchia out of retirement.
Amazing the knowledge you possess about Pats’ Central
Indeed.