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90.Cal : 1/20/2020 4:50 pm
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Tom Pelissero
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The #Browns are expected to hire Bill Callahan to coach their offensive line, sources say. Important addition of a former head coach for Kevin Stefanskiís staff.
We lost him to the Browns?  
Saquads26 : 1/20/2020 4:52 pm : link
Or were we never even interested? Was he ever even interviewed? Lots of conflicting information out there.
Damn.  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 1/20/2020 4:52 pm : link
.
We miss out on another  
Pheonix Orion : 1/20/2020 4:52 pm : link
Have to settle for second/third target on the list.
It seems  
DavidinBMNY : 1/20/2020 4:57 pm : link
That once Garrett was picked as OC, Callahan was a pipe dream.
RE: We miss out on another  
GiantEgo : 1/20/2020 4:58 pm : link
In comment 14787323 Pheonix Orion said:
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Have to settle for second/third target on the list.


Your saw the target list! WOW!
He is to Stefanski...  
morrison40 : 1/20/2020 4:58 pm : link
What Garrett is to Judge, an experienced vet behind a rookie coach. We didnít need 2 of those.
Maybe he was never a target given the frayed relationship with  
yatqb : 1/20/2020 4:58 pm : link
Garrett.
RE: It seems  
Mike in Prescott : 1/20/2020 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14787328 DavidinBMNY said:
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That once Garrett was picked as OC, Callahan was a pipe dream.


It would certainly seem that way. I'm still very happy with the Garrett hire. Being a HC in the league for almost 10 years means you are going to have some enemies, as well as friends.
This is very disappointing  
Jay on the Island : 1/20/2020 5:01 pm : link
but there are still some very good options available.
RE: We miss out on another  
Saquads26 : 1/20/2020 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14787323 Pheonix Orion said:
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Have to settle for second/third target on the list.


Wrong, keep failing
Iím a bit confused  
ryanmkeane : 1/20/2020 5:07 pm : link
why everyone would be so downtrodden that we didnít hire Callahan. He hasnít exactly lit the world on fire in Washington the past 3 seasons. Their OL was the epitome of average.
RE: Iím a bit confused  
Saquads26 : 1/20/2020 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14787344 ryanmkeane said:
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why everyone would be so downtrodden that we didnít hire Callahan. He hasnít exactly lit the world on fire in Washington the past 3 seasons. Their OL was the epitome of average.


Yep you can argue DeGuglielmo has been much better.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/20/2020 5:11 pm : link
Charean Williams
@NFLCharean

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Once the Giants hired Jason Garrett, Callahan was a long, long, longer than long shot to land in East Rutherford.
RE: RE: Iím a bit confused  
Pheonix Orion : 1/20/2020 5:14 pm : link
In comment 14787348 Saquads26 said:
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In comment 14787344 ryanmkeane said:


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why everyone would be so downtrodden that we didnít hire Callahan. He hasnít exactly lit the world on fire in Washington the past 3 seasons. Their OL was the epitome of average.



Yep you can argue DeGuglielmo has been much better.


Don't know if I agree there but I would agree he is probably a sizeable upgrade over Hal Hunter.

Numerous reports had Callahan as our one and DD as our number 2.

DD should be pretty good though. Now we need to improve the OT spots and Center spots without becoming too young across the OL. In other words at least one in FA.
Unfortunetly Giants aren't going to be the first choice for everyone.  
Blue21 : 1/20/2020 5:14 pm : link
There's many reasons for this. Hire the best you can and work hard. It's the same as in any business. For all we know he may not have been Giants first choice just because he was BBI's.
RE: We miss out on another  
Mike from Ohio : 1/20/2020 5:15 pm : link
In comment 14787323 Pheonix Orion said:
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Have to settle for second/third target on the list.


Never considered the list the Giants are working from may be different than the list fans on BBI might be working from?
Colombo  
Rflairr : 1/20/2020 5:21 pm : link
Is available
As long as Hal Hunter is gone  
Stan in LA : 1/20/2020 5:24 pm : link
All is good.
RE: ...  
Chris684 : 1/20/2020 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14787350 Eric from BBI said:
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Charean Williams
@NFLCharean

12m
Once the Giants hired Jason Garrett, Callahan was a long, long, longer than long shot to land in East Rutherford.


Thanks for posting. I did not realize this.
Callahan definitely holds a grudge vs Garrett  
giantsfan227B : 1/20/2020 5:39 pm : link
Marcus Mosher
@Marcus_Mosher
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Bill Callahan was interested in the Giants job before Jason Garrett was named the OC.

After that news, there was no way he was heading to NYG

I think NYG made a BIG mistake picking Garrett over Callahan. https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1219376178257186816


Who is Marcus Mosher?

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I see a lot of posters saying Colombo is still available.  
Blue21 : 1/20/2020 5:48 pm : link
Maybe the Giants have contacted him. Maybe he's not interested. Maybe Garrett isn't recommending him. Maybe he's in conversation with another team (s) he'd rather land with. Then again maybe tomorrow we find out he's our next OLine coach. At this point it would surprise me because I think his name would have leaked out by now. Not counting on him and there may be a good reason we may know or never know why. We all know that it didn't seem to end well between Garrett and Callahan. I wasn't expecting him.
Must have missed it.  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 1/20/2020 5:48 pm : link
What was the riff between Garrett and Callahan?
Uh oh  
AdamBrag : 1/20/2020 5:48 pm : link
Garrett's offense requires a really good offensive line. If we can only get Googs right now, we might be in for another long season.
RE: We miss out on another  
UConn4523 : 1/20/2020 5:49 pm : link
In comment 14787323 Pheonix Orion said:
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Have to settle for second/third target on the list.


Damn Dave, I didnít know you knew how to use the internet, let alone post on BBI. Thanks for sharing the info though!
RE: Uh oh  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/20/2020 5:51 pm : link
In comment 14787388 AdamBrag said:
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Garrett's offense requires a really good offensive line. If we can only get Googs right now, we might be in for another long season.


I'm not even sure what your post means. Any good offense needs a good offensive line.
RE: Must have missed it.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/20/2020 5:52 pm : link
In comment 14787387 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
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What was the riff between Garrett and Callahan?


See Yankee28's thread...
https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=593901 - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Uh oh  
AdamBrag : 1/20/2020 6:01 pm : link
In comment 14787390 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14787388 AdamBrag said:


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Garrett's offense requires a really good offensive line. If we can only get Googs right now, we might be in for another long season.



I'm not even sure what your post means. Any good offense needs a good offensive line.


Assuming he runs the Air Coryell offense, like he did in Dallas, that requires a much better offensive line then a WCO, like we ran last year. With a WCO, you can scheme around not having an elite offensive line (not that we did that). With Garrett's scheme, you can't do that.

That's why I'm saying there will be a larger requirement on a successful offensive line for success. Unless we improve our offensive line significantly through FA and the draft, we need a really good OL coach to have success with that offense.
AdamBrag  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/20/2020 6:04 pm : link
With or without Garrett, Joe Judge says he wants a physical football team. You can't be a physical football team without a good offensive line.
Callahan to Cleveland  
Torrag : 1/20/2020 6:09 pm : link
No surprise to me we didn't hire Callahan. Not because he isn't a good coach but the relationship with Garrett was problematical. He took playcalling duties away from him in Dallas, blocked him leaving because he was signed and then fired him. Even if Jerrah was involved would you go back to working with that guy if you had other options?

Be realistic him rejoining a staff where he would be subordinate to Garret again was never going to happen.
RE: ...  
GFAN52 : 1/20/2020 6:15 pm : link
In comment 14787350 Eric from BBI said:
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Charean Williams
@NFLCharean

12m
Once the Giants hired Jason Garrett, Callahan was a long, long, longer than long shot to land in East Rutherford.


Yep, it didn't end on good terms in Dallas.
Maybe itís as simple as he wants to be nearer to his son in  
Spider56 : 1/20/2020 7:10 pm : link
Cincinnati ... Heís 63 ... at some point, even football coaches may wake up and realize how much their career has taken them away from their families.
RE: Callahan definitely holds a grudge vs Garrett  
Joey in VA : 1/20/2020 8:05 pm : link
In comment 14787379 giantsfan227B said:
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Marcus Mosher
@Marcus_Mosher
∑ 38m
Bill Callahan was interested in the Giants job before Jason Garrett was named the OC.

After that news, there was no way he was heading to NYG

I think NYG made a BIG mistake picking Garrett over Callahan. https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/121937617825718681

what an absolute load of horseshit. An OL coach who has been horrible as anything but, over a coach with 9 years at the helm of America's circus and is a well respected coach, teacher and offensive play caller. I'll take Garret and a hat rack over Callahan and anyone else. Simply idiotic.
RE: RE: RE: Uh oh  
Joey in VA : 1/20/2020 8:11 pm : link
In comment 14787409 AdamBrag said:
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In comment 14787390 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 14787388 AdamBrag said:


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Garrett's offense requires a really good offensive line. If we can only get Googs right now, we might be in for another long season.



I'm not even sure what your post means. Any good offense needs a good offensive line.



Assuming he runs the Air Coryell offense, like he did in Dallas, that requires a much better offensive line then a WCO, like we ran last year. With a WCO, you can scheme around not having an elite offensive line (not that we did that). With Garrett's scheme, you can't do that.

That's why I'm saying there will be a larger requirement on a successful offensive line for success. Unless we improve our offensive line significantly through FA and the draft, we need a really good OL coach to have success with that offense.
You can't scheme around a bad OL. The WCO isn't about survival with a bad OL, it's a reliance on faster times to throw and reliance onn MORE players in the pass and run block scheme. You still have to be able to block and run. Even the pure WCO of Bill Walsh has 3 5 and 7 step drops and it employs HBs and move TEs to spread the field horizontally instead of vertically. It doesn't scheme for bad or subpar OL play, it's a totally different method of protection that relies on edge blockers in addition to a good OL. You have wildly missed the mark here.
Oh well  
5BowlsSoon : 1/20/2020 8:37 pm : link
I guess he had his reasons for not choosing us so time to move on.
RE: We lost him to the Browns?  
joeinpa : 1/20/2020 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14787321 Saquads26 said:
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Or were we never even interested? Was he ever even interviewed? Lots of conflicting information out there.


Every time a name is linked to the Giants and it doesnít pan out, we get one of these posts.
Callahan is going to end up an interim coach AGAIN.  
FStubbs : 1/20/2020 9:52 pm : link
Just has the looks of it.
RE: RE: RE: Iím a bit confused  
Milton : 1/20/2020 11:22 pm : link
In comment 14787354 Pheonix Orion said:
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Numerous reports had Callahan as our one and DD as our number 2.
I haven't seen a single report that had "Callahan as our one and DD as our number 2." All I've seen is speculation regarding the various coaching candidates based on availability and connections to Judge. But it's just speculation, not based on sources.
To this point all the information about Callahan was minimal  
jcn56 : 1/20/2020 11:26 pm : link
not just wrt the Giants but to other teams as well. There were a handful of rumors saying the Giants, Cincy and Panthers were all interested, and nothing more.

I thought the lack of an interview this long meant Callahan was unlikely to come here, whether it was lack of interest on his part or the other way around.
This may be a reach idea...  
bw in dc : 1/20/2020 11:30 pm : link
but Joe Rudolph does a helluva job as the OL coach at the University of Wisconsin. I'd be curious to reach out to him...
RE: We miss out on another  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/21/2020 7:41 am : link
In comment 14787323 Pheonix Orion said:
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Have to settle for second/third target on the list.


Another January 2020 dupe showing up on every thread.

Fucking lovely
I hope we have  
Jay in Toronto : 1/21/2020 8:17 am : link
a good Assistant OL coach (maybe forim CFB) as well. Our line needs a lot of attention.
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