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NFT: Knicks @ Cavs: MLK Edition

ChaChing : 1/20/2020 5:36 pm
Apparently the NBA admitted that should have been a 5s call vs the Sixers, right b4 Harris' 3

Also apparently Love getting a little demonstrative on the court while his O wouldn't move the ball...you know, play basketball the right way...is "drama" and gets him fined by his team? Are these guys THAT sensitive nowadays? WTF do you expect a leader to do when they aren't playing well? NOT say anything? Maybe there was a better time or moment, but in game arm flailing for a justifiable reason no less (and he was right)...that's a fine?
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ChaChing : 1/20/2020 5:37 pm : link
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Gotta love the 1 dribble into a dunk w/ ZERO resistance from  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 5:44 pm : link
any Knick

tbf both teams have done that. But 1 dribble / 1 pass into wide open shots? Do pros ever get any D training at any point in their careers?

It's a different time. But man I miss when a hot shooter would get pummeled on his next shot, or denied the ball after a make or 2
Frank is actually showing some more  
bceagle05 : 1/20/2020 5:51 pm : link
quickness and explosion this year, but he still can’t throw the ball in the ocean. So frustrating to watch him brick everything.
Might as well leave Osman open at the arc  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 5:55 pm : link
the one thing he CANT do is shoot...right?

My bad, I meant CAN
Nets lose again. 18-24 on the year.  
bceagle05 : 1/20/2020 5:55 pm : link
Kyrie missed another game, this time due to a hammy. He also compared himself to MLK.
RE: Nets lose again. 18-24 on the year.  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 5:59 pm : link
In comment 14787397 bceagle05 said:
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Kyrie missed another game, this time due to a hammy. He also compared himself to MLK.

I didn't know MLK ever had a hammy
Blatant O goaltend on the Cavs, no call  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 5:59 pm : link
NBA will say sorry in a few days, so it's all good
Course I say that while NYK hadn't had one foul called on them  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 6:00 pm : link
in the 2nd til 1:23...

but it was still a blatant goaltend
What a game  
ghost718 : 1/20/2020 6:01 pm : link
Cleveland Slugs vs Scott and Stevie's Dollar Bin Squad
I think you mean MY Dollar Bin Squad  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 6:12 pm : link
RE: Nets lose again. 18-24 on the year.  
TyreeHelmet : 1/20/2020 6:13 pm : link
In comment 14787397 bceagle05 said:
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Kyrie missed another game, this time due to a hammy. He also compared himself to MLK.


Guy is constantly injured it’s unreal. And he has become a gigantic asshole.
Frank the  
XBRONX : 1/20/2020 6:16 pm : link
stank
Kyrie and MLK are like THIS >  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 6:17 pm : link
NBA Central
@TheNBACentral
“When I was out for those seven weeks and not saying anything and still people are still saying things about me. It’s inevitable. They crucified Martin Luther King for speaking about peace and social integration.“
I'm a person who said something  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 6:19 pm : link
MLK's a person who said something

It's like we're the same person
Don't forget there's that other guy famous for being crucified too  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 6:23 pm : link
...just saying
Morris too much dribbling  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 6:28 pm : link
but why aren't the Gs running to help him, especially when he's being pressured and fumbling around? Just Randle & Gibson are anywhere near him, while Payton & Bullock stand at the corner 3 doing nothing
Wow, reviewed to a flagrant 1 on a Morris 3 make  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 6:31 pm : link
so now he gets 2 to make 1. I assume it's also still NYK ball after that

Not sure why you can't have a 5 pt play as Breen said - esp on a flagrant, why shouldn't you get both FTs. Why should random circumstance - a made 3 - change that? Seems silly but whatever
Knicks on a 15-0 run tho  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 6:32 pm : link
66-54
It's beyond time for coach to take Randle's green light from 3  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 6:36 pm : link
to be turned off. He's bad at even the open one's in the offense. Guy needs to be corralled by becoming more of a conventional / oldschool post up type big, maybe some Amare-esque mid range face ups, and of course fast breaks. But no more ball handling or playing pt, no more starting outside the 3, very little iso if not in the low-mid post

if he's going to play stupid, force it by using him smarter
Back in the day that wasn't, but today that  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 6:41 pm : link
shoulda been a flagrant on Morris
Nice end to the 3rd. Frank w/ a smart foul to give w/ 4.3  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 6:47 pm : link
Then gets an offensive call on Sexton

Then a fantastic play - inbound to Portis w/ Dot streaking to the rim. And with today's classic defensive theme by both teams - let's not guard the rim at all - easy layup & a 15 pt lead
18 pt lead under 5  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 7:06 pm : link
can the Knicks beat another really bad team? Is this really happening!?!?

Fizdale and Miller have both coached 22 games now.  
bceagle05 : 1/20/2020 7:10 pm : link
Fiz: 4-18
Miller: 8-14

Whatever that’s worth...
It means Miller is at least twice as good as Fiz  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 7:17 pm : link
AND he didn't get camp
RE: Don't forget there's that other guy famous for being crucified too  
Darth Paul : 1/20/2020 9:07 pm : link
In comment 14787430 ChaChing said:
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...just saying


There is also proof MLK and Kyrie are real people...just saying
RE: RE: Don't forget there's that other guy famous for being crucified too  
ChaChing : 1/20/2020 9:37 pm : link
In comment 14787595 Darth Paul said:
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In comment 14787430 ChaChing said:
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...just saying


There is also proof MLK and Kyrie are real people...just saying

Not very good w/ sarcasm are we?
What a bizarre thread.  
Mike in NJ : 1/20/2020 11:13 pm : link
20 of the 27 posts were by the same poster basically just having a conversation with himself.

RE: What a bizarre thread.  
ChaChing : 1/21/2020 12:37 am : link
In comment 14787688 Mike in NJ said:
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20 of the 27 posts were by the same poster basically just having a conversation with himself.

Well it is the internet, so there's always...way more than one

How bizarre a Knick fan posting during a Knick game on a site where there's Knick fans. And oh my, I'm so embarrassed about my posting habits...yet you're counting my every innocuous post in judgement? Ok
Berman says there's some trade interest in Randle.  
bceagle05 : 1/21/2020 1:09 pm : link
Not all that surprising, but if the Knicks are truly serious about keeping Morris beyond this year, it's probably best to move Randle. That forward combo + Mitch at center (or - gasp - Andre Drummond), just isn't gonna work.
unless you plannon playing randle at the 5  
nygiants16 : 1/21/2020 1:16 pm : link
1 of morris or randle have to be moved
I did my first (and probably only) Tankathon sim lottery  
bceagle05 : 1/21/2020 2:05 pm : link
and it had the Knicks falling from four to seven and taking Halliburton. I wouldn't mind that player, but he's definitely more of the "complementary player" variety.
The  
DanMetroMan : 1/21/2020 2:35 pm : link
Pelicans are now only 3 games out of the 8 spot, 11-5 over their last 16 games and Zion back tonight. Just when you thought Redick's insane playoff appearance streak was over... not so fast.

-Miami reportedly very active in trade discussions
This provides hope  
GMEN46 : 1/21/2020 3:24 pm : link
For next years dallas pick hopefully being a lottery pick. Pelicans and warriors could both be in the top 8 next year. OKC will be out, but if Memphis continues to improve maybe dallas falls out of top 8 in west next year. Next year draft is supposed to be really strong in the top 5. Man it sucks to be a knocks fan.
Dallas  
DanMetroMan : 1/21/2020 3:40 pm : link
looks to be closer to a future 1 seed than out of the top 8. Outside of Luka being badly injured the Mavs are here to stay. They are 27-15.
Knicks  
DanMetroMan : 1/21/2020 3:45 pm : link
reportedly have had multiple looks at Minnesota C Daniel Oturu. I haven't seen him play but his numbers are very impressive.
Knicks need a PG...  
Jan in DC : 1/21/2020 3:49 pm : link
I know you can't force anything via the draft, but honestly, this PG drought has gone on for far too long.
RE: Knicks  
nygiants16 : 1/21/2020 3:52 pm : link
In comment 14788463 DanMetroMan said:
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reportedly have had multiple looks at Minnesota C Daniel Oturu. I haven't seen him play but his numbers are very impressive.


maybe in a dennis smith trade?
RE: RE: Knicks  
Strahan91 : 1/21/2020 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14788477 nygiants16 said:
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reportedly have had multiple looks at Minnesota C Daniel Oturu. I haven't seen him play but his numbers are very impressive.



maybe in a dennis smith trade?

Not Wolves, the Gophers
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nygiants16 : 1/21/2020 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14788488 Strahan91 said:
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reportedly have had multiple looks at Minnesota C Daniel Oturu. I haven't seen him play but his numbers are very impressive.



maybe in a dennis smith trade?


Not Wolves, the Gophers


ok nvm then
Oturu  
DanMetroMan : 1/21/2020 4:07 pm : link
is averaging 20.2 11.9 with 2.8 blocks, very solid 33% from 3 considering that's a new part of his game.

-Hearing major buzz regarding Killian Hayes. Another guy I've only seen on youtube.

-Not as high as I expect the Knicks to pick but I'm a big time fan of Isaac Okoro
I really wouldnt be surprised  
nygiants16 : 1/21/2020 4:18 pm : link
if knicks traded mitch for a ppint guard, just gut feeling
The supposedly weak draft class has been a relief for me.  
bceagle05 : 1/21/2020 4:26 pm : link
If we land a top four pick, we can at least dream about the upside of Wiseman/Edwards/Anthony/Ball, otherwise we'll find a solid player who can help us in the 4-10 range. Preferably one that shoots and/or plays defense. I haven't really been obsessing about college bball or the tank race the way I had in recent years.
RE: The supposedly weak draft class has been a relief for me.  
DanMetroMan : 1/21/2020 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14788532 bceagle05 said:
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If we land a top four pick, we can at least dream about the upside of Wiseman/Edwards/Anthony/Ball, otherwise we'll find a solid player who can help us in the 4-10 range. Preferably one that shoots and/or plays defense. I haven't really been obsessing about college bball or the tank race the way I had in recent years.


Okoro really intrigues me as a defensive beast who also has offensive game. I still think Wiseman has the most upside and thus he's still my 1-1 but I really think given our needs and his upside that Hayes should be on our radar.

""He's a unique player," one scout said. "You like that he comes from a basketball family and that he will bring that professional experience from Europe. Playing professionally makes you tough, and you can see that in the way that he plays. I'd bet on him making a big impact right away in the NBA."


-"Hayes is assuredly a good NBA prospect. Outside of his backstory, his tape and statistical profile reveal promising factors for his NBA future. Beyond his size, he also has strong passing vision, able to see the angles necessary to get shooters and bigs open in a modern NBA offense.



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RE: I really wouldnt be surprised  
bceagle05 : 1/21/2020 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14788523 nygiants16 said:
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if knicks traded mitch for a ppint guard, just gut feeling

It does feel like they've soured on him a bit. I get that he's frustrating, but if the Knicks truly believe what they say about player development, he's a good test case. He has the tools to be an All-Star player, or at least an All-Defense type of guy who can be a legit starter. I'd prefer to keep challenging him to improve, and only trade him if Wiseman falls in their laps and they feel they have no choice.
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nygiants16 : 1/21/2020 5:35 pm : link
In comment 14788596 bceagle05 said:
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if knicks traded mitch for a ppint guard, just gut feeling


It does feel like they've soured on him a bit. I get that he's frustrating, but if the Knicks truly believe what they say about player development, he's a good test case. He has the tools to be an All-Star player, or at least an All-Defense type of guy who can be a legit starter. I'd prefer to keep challenging him to improve, and only trade him if Wiseman falls in their laps and they feel they have no choice.


My gut tells me the Drummond stuff was real and Knicks think they can trade mitch either for a star player or starting claiber point..

RE: Killian Hayes  
shyster : 1/21/2020 5:50 pm : link
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-"Hayes is assuredly a good NBA prospect. Outside of his backstory, his tape and statistical profile reveal promising factors for his NBA future. Beyond his size, he also has strong passing vision, able to see the angles necessary to get shooters and bigs open in a modern NBA offense.

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Hayes is very interesting. His shooting is much better so far this season than last, and I take it that is the factor scouts were waiting on.

With Edwards/Anthony/Ball all not really impressing this year, it's nice to have the possibility of another playmaker option.



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TyreeHelmet : 1/21/2020 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14788596 bceagle05 said:
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if knicks traded mitch for a ppint guard, just gut feeling


It does feel like they've soured on him a bit. I get that he's frustrating, but if the Knicks truly believe what they say about player development, he's a good test case. He has the tools to be an All-Star player, or at least an All-Defense type of guy who can be a legit starter. I'd prefer to keep challenging him to improve, and only trade him if Wiseman falls in their laps and they feel they have no choice.


Part of player development is letting the player play through the “downs” of a season and take their lumps. But the Knicks are all talk with player development. They are a bottom 5 team with a starting lineup of guys that have zero future with the team. Worst possible situation to be in the nba.
The league is about stars  
nygiants16 : 1/21/2020 7:03 pm : link
doesnt matter how you get them, trade, free sgents or draft, you just have to get them and put yourself in a position to get them....

Nothing is a guarantee..
Stars rarely have to be "developed"  
nygiants16 : 1/21/2020 7:10 pm : link
are there late bloomers absolutely but 9 times out of 10 you know by year 2 if a player has what it takes to be a star player..

And a lot of times it is on the player and if he has the work ethic to become that player..
RE: Stars rarely have to be  
TyreeHelmet : 1/22/2020 8:39 am : link
In comment 14788801 nygiants16 said:
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are there late bloomers absolutely but 9 times out of 10 you know by year 2 if a player has what it takes to be a star player..

And a lot of times it is on the player and if he has the work ethic to become that player..


This is very true and doesn’t get discussed enough.
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