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Colombo to interview Wednesday for OL coach

ryanmkeane : 1/20/2020 8:48 pm
Per Jordan. asshat called it!
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What are the odds  
figgy2989 : 1/21/2020 7:37 am : link
That Jordan read BBI before sending out that tweet.
Oh well  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2020 7:45 am : link
Not to be negative here, and just talk8mg our loud, but....

I would have preferred....

Gruden + Callahan

Over

Garrett + DD

It seems clear to me Callahan probably didn’t come here because of Garrett.
RE: Important hire  
Klaatu : 1/21/2020 7:53 am : link
In comment 14787659 MookGiants said:
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but no one that is going to make shit shine. Talent needs a massive upgrade. Zeitler is the most overrated player I've maybe ever seen by this board. Hernandez is the one guy I think will make a big jump with a better o-line coach, the rest of the line I would be looking to upgrade as soon as possible


Bingo. I hope Joe Judge feels the same way.
RE: RE: Important hire  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/21/2020 8:12 am : link
In comment 14787754 Klaatu said:
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but no one that is going to make shit shine. Talent needs a massive upgrade. Zeitler is the most overrated player I've maybe ever seen by this board. Hernandez is the one guy I think will make a big jump with a better o-line coach, the rest of the line I would be looking to upgrade as soon as possible



Bingo. I hope Joe Judge feels the same way.


I think he does. He didn't really go out of his way to compliment any individual player or unit. Yes, he said we have talent in the locker room. But he didn't really go out of his way to compliment anyone, really.
RE: RE: Colombo vs. Jacobs  
djstat : 1/21/2020 8:29 am : link
In comment 14787573 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14787568 Anakim said:


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With cameos by Derek Hagan and Kevin Gilbride



Would be a much more inspiring option than DeGugliemo Link - ( New Window ) AGreed.



I think DeGugliemo is getting a bit of a bad rap around here.
Here is the video  
LS : 1/21/2020 9:00 am : link
that was previously posted
Colombo - ( New Window )
Maybe the Giants OL needs a hard-ass SOB coach  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/21/2020 9:16 am : link
DeGuglielmo’s rep doesn’t necessarily scare me off.
Guge's  
ryanmkeane : 1/21/2020 9:23 am : link
rep kind of reminds me of Gregg Williams. Someone who is a good coach but people not affiliated with the organization don't really care for.
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GiantEgo : 1/21/2020 9:23 am : link
I think it says something that DeGugliemo keeps getting hired he hasn't been on the scrap heap like Hal Hunter.
RE: Here is the video  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2020 9:28 am : link
In comment 14787827 LS said:
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that was previously posted Colombo - ( New Window )


I agree, this approach (His words on this video) should put a big smile on JJs face.
RE: Here is the video  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2020 9:35 am : link
In comment 14787827 LS said:
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that was previously posted Colombo - ( New Window )


I agree, this approach (His words on this video) should put a big smile on JJs face.
RE: Here is the video  
Mike from Ohio : 1/21/2020 9:36 am : link
In comment 14787827 LS said:
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that was previously posted Colombo - ( New Window )


It’s hard to listen to that interview and not hear a guy who sounds a lot like Judge. Seems to be a good fit, at least from an outsider’s perspective.

And a big thank you to Gill! Excellent asshat info last night.
Good video  
bronxct1 : 1/21/2020 10:17 am : link
This definitely seems like someone Judge would love. The O-Line needs more talent for sure, but if they can get a coach to come in and clean up the groups technique and help design blocking schemes that play to the players strengths I think we could see a jump from the group thats still on the roster in 2020.
After reading a bit on both  
Pheonix Orion : 1/21/2020 10:25 am : link
I think both will be a clear upgrade to Hunter. The better of the two? Well DD had 2 top OLs under him in Indy and the Jets arguably with lesser talent than Columbo has had with Boys.
RE: Anikim: I think there are simpler explanations for the reduced sacks.  
Anakim : 1/21/2020 10:28 am : link
In comment 14787744 Big Blue Blogger said:
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But in 2018 the Cowboys were 31st in fewest sacks allowed. Houston was the only team that allowed more. In 2019, they were 2nd in fewest with the Rams only allowing fewer. That's 33 fewer sacks in 2019 than 2018!!

Travis Frederick missed the entire 2018 season. Connor Williams was a rookie; he was so bad he got benched halfway through the season. They had to use him later when Zack Martin got hurt. Martin has missed just two games in his career - both in 2018.

Tyron Smith was also banged up that year; but at this point that doesn't really distinguish 2018 from most other seasons.


Colombo took over after 7 games in 2018. He inherited Frederick missing the season and Williams' rookie growing pains. More notably, he had to work around Smith and Martin getting banged up in the second of that season.
thank god  
gtt350 : 1/21/2020 10:30 am : link
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RE: After reading a bit on both  
Fast Eddie : 1/21/2020 10:38 am : link
In comment 14787964 Pheonix Orion said:
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I think both will be a clear upgrade to Hunter. The better of the two? Well DD had 2 top OLs under him in Indy and the Jets arguably with lesser talent than Columbo has had with Boys.


This ^
Anikim: That's exactly my point.  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/21/2020 10:49 am : link
2018 was an aberration for the Dallas line and would have been a mess (at least in terms of pass-blocking) no matter who was coaching them. They reverted to their norm in 2019, and may even have improved a bit on their 2015-2017 level. I can see giving Colombo some credit for that, but the comparison between 2018 and any other year is somewhat apples-and-oranges because of Frederick's total absence and some other anomalies. It seems logical that pass protection was the place where they would miss their All-Pro center the most.
RE: RE: It's true Colombo had better talent  
giants#1 : 1/21/2020 10:53 am : link
In comment 14787657 Anakim said:
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it's also true that he helped the FO pick that talent



Wait, where do you get this from?


Colombo joined the Dallas staff as assistant OL coach in 2016. How did he help acquire Smith (2011), Frederick (2013) and Martin (2014)? Even La'el Collins preceded him.
RE: RE: RE: Colombo vs. Jacobs  
Victor in CT : 1/21/2020 11:45 am : link
In comment 14787594 Anakim said:
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In comment 14787568 Anakim said:


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With cameos by Derek Hagan and Kevin Gilbride



Would be a much more inspiring option than DeGugliemo Link - ( New Window )



I think DeGugliemo is getting a bit of a bad rap around here.



That may be, but he comes with plenty of red flags, most notably his inability to stay in one place for long.


Jets for one year
New England for two years
San Diego for one year
Miami for one year
Indianapolis for one year
Back to Miami for one year


Ever read Bill Parcells' resume'?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Colombo vs. Jacobs  
Big Blue '56 : 1/21/2020 12:26 pm : link
In comment 14788045 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 14787594 Anakim said:


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In comment 14787573 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 14787568 Anakim said:


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With cameos by Derek Hagan and Kevin Gilbride



Would be a much more inspiring option than DeGugliemo Link - ( New Window )



I think DeGugliemo is getting a bit of a bad rap around here.



That may be, but he comes with plenty of red flags, most notably his inability to stay in one place for long.


Jets for one year
New England for two years
San Diego for one year
Miami for one year
Indianapolis for one year
Back to Miami for one year



Ever read Bill Parcells' resume'?


😂
My die hard Cowboy fan friend just text me this about COLUMBO  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2020 3:18 pm : link
The only reason we we're as good as we were in 2018 is because halfway through the season our old offensive line coach was canned and Colombo took over. We were immediately better once he took over. He is good, I wish we had not lost him.

So, Columbo took over half way through....so their bad stats was not on him.

I WANT THIS GUY BADLY NOW.....PLEASE JJ FORGET YOUR FRIEND DD and pick the best one.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Colombo vs. Jacobs  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/21/2020 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14788045 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 14787594 Anakim said:


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In comment 14787573 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 14787568 Anakim said:


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With cameos by Derek Hagan and Kevin Gilbride



Would be a much more inspiring option than DeGugliemo Link - ( New Window )



I think DeGugliemo is getting a bit of a bad rap around here.



That may be, but he comes with plenty of red flags, most notably his inability to stay in one place for long.


Jets for one year
New England for two years
San Diego for one year
Miami for one year
Indianapolis for one year
Back to Miami for one year



Ever read Bill Parcells' resume'?


That's Bill Parcells, though. Not some random OL coach.
More love for COLUMBO  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2020 3:22 pm : link
I watched both his interview and DD’s interview on YouTube and Columbo came across much smarter and better focused on what needs to be done. Plus, he commands respect when you look at him...very sharp, well spoken young man, about 40 years old.

PLEASE PLEASE PICK HIM, PLEASE
RE: My die hard Cowboy fan friend just text me this about COLUMBO  
Anakim : 1/21/2020 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14788418 5BowlsSoon said:
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The only reason we we're as good as we were in 2018 is because halfway through the season our old offensive line coach was canned and Colombo took over. We were immediately better once he took over. He is good, I wish we had not lost him.

So, Columbo took over half way through....so their bad stats was not on him.

I WANT THIS GUY BADLY NOW.....PLEASE JJ FORGET YOUR FRIEND DD and pick the best one.


Partially right. Alexander coached 6 games in 2018 and the Cowboys game up with 23 sacks during that time (which is all they gave up in 2019, mind you). Colombo coached the remaining 10 games and the Cowboys gave up 33 sacks during that time.
RE: RE: My die hard Cowboy fan friend just text me this about COLUMBO  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2020 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14788443 Anakim said:
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In comment 14788418 5BowlsSoon said:


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The only reason we we're as good as we were in 2018 is because halfway through the season our old offensive line coach was canned and Colombo took over. We were immediately better once he took over. He is good, I wish we had not lost him.

So, Columbo took over half way through....so their bad stats was not on him.

I WANT THIS GUY BADLY NOW.....PLEASE JJ FORGET YOUR FRIEND DD and pick the best one.



Partially right. Alexander coached 6 games in 2018 and the Cowboys game up with 23 sacks during that time (which is all they gave up in 2019, mind you). Colombo coached the remaining 10 games and the Cowboys gave up 33 sacks during that time.


Well, coming in during the season doesn’t mean they immediately start to implement his plan and ideas from the get go. I’m sure it takes a while before you make that complete transition in the way you are doing things. He obviously didn’t have a preseason to work on this and instill it to his players, so it was a live on the job transition that had to be done.

I think you would agree that this transition would take up to 4 weeks to move out the old and bring in the new. It isn’t something done overnight. So weeks 7-10 were weeks the players were both getting, implementing, and feeling better about the new ways from the new sheriff in town. I’m just guessing these weeks, but I bet weeks 12-16 were much better than weeks 7-11.
I think we’re seeking meaning in a tiny sample.  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/21/2020 4:18 pm : link
Dallas reduced their sacks per game from 3.86 to 3.33 when Colombo took over in 2018? Maybe he had an impact, or maybe Looney just got settled in a bit and the line calls improved. Maybe they just faced the fact, after nine more sacks in losses to Washington and Tennessee, that Connor Williams needed some time on the bench.
RE: on the flip side  
Spider56 : 1/21/2020 5:02 pm : link
In comment 14787605 Eric from BBI said:
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the "red flag" with Colombo is his "limited" experience as a coach plus the Cowboys willing to part ways with him.


I have no idea who is better. I wanted Callahan but that was mainly based on name recognition and his resume.


If nothing else, coming from Dallas and their all pro OL, Colombo will be able to give an objective assessment of how good (or bad) our current personnel are, and what needs to be done to be dominant.
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