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George Asafo-Adjei

buddyryansux10 : 1/21/2020 7:56 am
Remember this guy? He was placed on IR I think beginning of 2019. Pre-injury concussion, he sounded promising in the beginning of training camp ( huge grain of salt taken of course ), and I believe he was praised/drafted for working "effectively" everyday against his college teammate Josh Allen, who proved himself his rookie year obliviously.

Contributor this up coming year? I think he would be a good test of the new OL coach, whoever that may be.

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ryanmkeane : 1/21/2020 8:54 am : link
i would just like to know what the injury was and why it was so bad...obviously if it was just a standard protocol concussion he wouldn't have been out the entire season.

Hopefully he can make the team this year
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buddyryansux10 : 1/21/2020 8:59 am : link
In comment 14787756 Eric from BBI said:
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we have to find out what the heck happened there... he must have had one horrific concussion. And from a camp practice?


Very possibly, although if it was really that bad I wonder why he didn't get an injury settlement.
I think Asafo-Adjeiís future is at guard  
Jay on the Island : 1/21/2020 9:00 am : link
Nick Gates provides great value as he can play every position but center. Hopefully Asafo-Adjei will spend time at guard to improve his versatility and chances of making the team.
RE: I hear  
section125 : 1/21/2020 9:00 am : link
In comment 14787810 Eric from BBI said:
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you guys about stashing him, but he missed almost all of camp and the preseason. They weren't stashing him that early.
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Eric, wouldn't be the 1st time a team saw an opportunity to stash a player with potential that they knew would not be ready to play. They may have taken advantage of the IR.
buddyryansux10  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2020 9:01 am : link
If it was really bad (like a torn ACL in other cases), you don't do injury settlements.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2020 9:02 am : link
In comment 14787828 section125 said:
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you guys about stashing him, but he missed almost all of camp and the preseason. They weren't stashing him that early.

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Eric, wouldn't be the 1st time a team saw an opportunity to stash a player with potential that they knew would not be ready to play. They may have taken advantage of the IR.


You're missing the point. He missed almost all of camp and all of the preseason. They weren't stashing him in July and August. That would be stupid.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2020 9:03 am : link
In comment 14787814 Jay on the Island said:
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you guys about stashing him, but he missed almost all of camp and the preseason. They weren't stashing him that early.


Didnít Nick Gates miss about the same amount of time? I know he was placed on IR before the season and IIRC he missed the entire preseason as well.


Nick Gates played in three preseason games and didn't miss camp.
Him losing last year was bad for him and the team  
BillT : 1/21/2020 9:03 am : link
This year becomes just another rookie year for him and we know nothing about whether he is good or not. Thus, he can't be counted on and we have to plan like he's not a contributor. More bad luck for the development of the OL. Par for the course.
re Gates  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2020 9:04 am : link
that is, in his rookie season.
RE: buddyryansux10  
buddyryansux10 : 1/21/2020 9:07 am : link
In comment 14787829 Eric from BBI said:
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If it was really bad (like a torn ACL in other cases), you don't do injury settlements.


I did not know that, thanks Eric! My thought was the Giants may do something for a player that maybe could not play anymore ( Chad Jones comes to mind ). Once again, if his concussion(s) were really that bad.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2020 9:09 am : link
In comment 14787838 buddyryansux10 said:
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If it was really bad (like a torn ACL in other cases), you don't do injury settlements.



I did not know that, thanks Eric! My thought was the Giants may do something for a player that maybe could not play anymore ( Chad Jones comes to mind ). Once again, if his concussion(s) were really that bad.


For example, Mark McLaurin broke his foot in training camp. He wasn't kept around because he was some sort of amazing prospect.
RE: I hear  
Chocco : 1/21/2020 9:16 am : link
In comment 14787810 Eric from BBI said:
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you guys about stashing him, but he missed almost all of camp and the preseason. They weren't stashing him that early.

This post from October is really the only thing I saw. I have seen a lot of players deal with post-concussive syndrome. Not necessarily dealing with concussion itself but dealing with resolving the symptoms brought on by the concussion. There could be a lot of contributing factors , but it can make people absolutely miserable. And can be very scary ( especially now a day with CTE concerns). I don't know that this is the case, but it could explain it. There is a really good story of a hockey player in players Tribune a few years ago I will try to find it
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AcidTest : 1/21/2020 9:18 am : link
In comment 14787831 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14787810 Eric from BBI said:


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you guys about stashing him, but he missed almost all of camp and the preseason. They weren't stashing him that early.

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Eric, wouldn't be the 1st time a team saw an opportunity to stash a player with potential that they knew would not be ready to play. They may have taken advantage of the IR.



You're missing the point. He missed almost all of camp and all of the preseason. They weren't stashing him in July and August. That would be stupid.


^This. His concussion must have been bad, but he might be able to recover so they put him on IR. Nobody knows what he could become. He's a blank slate. With a year in the weight room and watching film, he might surprise. He also played in the SEC, and went up against Josh Allen in practice every week.
Re- Mark McLaurin true Eric  
buddyryansux10 : 1/21/2020 9:19 am : link
but at least with a broken foot he theoretically should be able to recover and contribute on some level. With a concussion that keeps someone out an entire season, I would imagine that would be seriously career threatening, especially in this day and age.
RE: RE: Remember that he was a 7th(?) round pick  
k2tampa : 1/21/2020 9:25 am : link
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rarely do 7th round picks become fantastic players or even value starters.

not sure what happened to him but its not huge if he washes out.

Giants definitely should not base this years draft or FA on him being a big But if he is GREAT!



I've seen so many great linemen who were UDFAs that I don't discount a 7th round pick off the cuff.

7th rounders are basically giving a team a clean shot at the UDFAs that they don't have to lure to your team after the dust settles.

I don't know if Big George has what it takes to be a steady RT or swing tackle, but I wouldn't discount him. And as someone pointed out earlier, last year was basically a "red shirt" year for him. Hopefully, he's gotten himself in great shape during the year off and has a better grip on the playbook. Stepping up to the NFL is a big jump and I'm rooting for him.


The playbook? Um, itís changing.
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Chocco : 1/21/2020 9:29 am : link
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There is a really good story of a hockey player in players Tribune a few years ago I will try to find it Link - ( New Window )

Found it. If anyone is interested
The Darkness - ( New Window )
RE: This is what we're reduced to.  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/21/2020 9:32 am : link
In comment 14787805 Klaatu said:
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Hoping that a 7th Round pick who sat out his entire first year somehow becomes a serviceable pro.

Could it happen? Sure. But I wouldn't put any money on it.


What was Richie Seubert once upon a time? A UDFA who was a good athlete.

Let's get an OL coach who can develop Big George into an asset. OK it's a shot in the (almost) dark.

If he practiced well vs Josh Allen, he has a shot. Let's hope he's a worker. All too often that's the diff between chick feathers and chicken salad.
He was voted SEC OL of the week at least once.  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/21/2020 9:34 am : link
So there's that...
RE: Remember that he was a 7th(?) round pick  
bradshaw44 : 1/21/2020 9:35 am : link
In comment 14787802 superspynyg said:
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rarely do 7th round picks become fantastic players or even value starters.

not sure what happened to him but its not huge if he washes out.

Giants definitely should not base this years draft or FA on him being a big But if he is GREAT!


I believe OL is the one position where you get the most from late round guys. Many times they develop later.
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section125 : 1/21/2020 9:37 am : link
In comment 14787831 Eric from BBI said:
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you guys about stashing him, but he missed almost all of camp and the preseason. They weren't stashing him that early.

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Eric, wouldn't be the 1st time a team saw an opportunity to stash a player with potential that they knew would not be ready to play. They may have taken advantage of the IR.



You're missing the point. He missed almost all of camp and all of the preseason. They weren't stashing him in July and August. That would be stupid.


I'm not missing any point. Why would it be stupid? I may not be right, but if they saw potential, but clearly needing physical upgrades to his body and knew he would not be ready for this season in any capacity, why not put him on IR. Clear his concussion, let him lift weights, eat correctly and watch film. Keeps him from being cut and pilfered from the practice squad if not initial claimed.

He it is all mindless speculation but if it was a severe concussion (like Shepard's that cost 4 weeks) why chance further damage this year.
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Klaatu : 1/21/2020 9:46 am : link
In comment 14787868 BlueLou'sBack said:
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Hoping that a 7th Round pick who sat out his entire first year somehow becomes a serviceable pro.

Could it happen? Sure. But I wouldn't put any money on it.



What was Richie Seubert once upon a time? A UDFA who was a good athlete.

Let's get an OL coach who can develop Big George into an asset. OK it's a shot in the (almost) dark.

If he practiced well vs Josh Allen, he has a shot. Let's hope he's a worker. All too often that's the diff between chick feathers and chicken salad.


Here's an idea: How about we stop taking shots in the dark and make major investments in the most important unit on the offense? How about not waiting until the 7th Round in the draft before we draft an O-Lineman? How about not depending on reclamation projects like Remmers, chronic underachievers like Pulley, and failed experiments like Halapio? Good coaching - even great coaching - will only get you so far if you don't have the talent to go with it.

Finally, how about not making excuses for a front office that's had two years to fix a problem and has failed miserably?
I think he had a concussion in camp  
Vanzetti : 1/21/2020 9:47 am : link
And then Giants subsequently used that as an injury excuse to stash him.

I donít think it is any
More complicated than that
RE: This is what we're reduced to.  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2020 9:47 am : link
In comment 14787805 Klaatu said:
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Hoping that a 7th Round pick who sat out his entire first year somehow becomes a serviceable pro.

Could it happen? Sure. But I wouldn't put any money on it.


Hey Klaatu, FYI, I just watched your 1951 movie last night and plan on watching the 2008 movie tonight. I like you better as Michael Rennie than KReeves.
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Klaatu : 1/21/2020 9:56 am : link
In comment 14787888 5BowlsSoon said:
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Hey Klaatu, FYI, I just watched your 1951 movie last night and plan on watching the 2008 movie tonight. I like you better as Michael Rennie than KReeves.


The 1951 movie is a classic. One of the best sci-fi movies ever made.

The 2008 movie is a virtue-signalling abomination.
RE: Him losing last year was bad for him and the team  
Rudy5757 : 1/21/2020 9:57 am : link
In comment 14787835 BillT said:
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This year becomes just another rookie year for him and we know nothing about whether he is good or not. Thus, he can't be counted on and we have to plan like he's not a contributor. More bad luck for the development of the OL. Par for the course.


This. The new coaches pretty much have to evaluate him based off of college and he was a 7th round pick. At this point he may not even make it to the 90 man roster. I guess a lot depends on how he shows up to mini camps or how he carried himself while on IR.

If we sign a RT in FA or Draft one high his career as a Giant may be over. I know we are all pulling for the kid to be a player but it is a long road for him right now.
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section125 : 1/21/2020 10:00 am : link
In comment 14787885 Klaatu said:
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Finally, how about not making excuses for a front office that's had two years to fix a problem and has failed miserably?


Here is also an idea....some of the players we have can play in the NFL. Seriously, do you recognize all of the names on the lines of the final four teams? Aside from the 1st rounders do you have a clue as to where or when most of these guys were drafted.
I watch every week and am amazed at the names I see. Who the heck are most of these guys, yet they play well.

I have felt for years that coaching is more the reason that the line is awful. Yes talent does help. But I'll use Hernandez as an example - why in the heck was this guy struggling this year? Also, why was Zeitler not up to snuff. Yes he had a neck injury early. But for Pete's sake, this guy is a top guard and has been. He comes to the Giants and sucks???
Also, Nate Solder at 31 all of a sudden became one of the worst LTs in football? He was never close to All Pro - but he was league average.

So, it isn't just talent. It is far more.
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AcidTest : 1/21/2020 10:01 am : link
In comment 14787901 Klaatu said:
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Hey Klaatu, FYI, I just watched your 1951 movie last night and plan on watching the 2008 movie tonight. I like you better as Michael Rennie than KReeves.



The 1951 movie is a classic. One of the best sci-fi movies ever made.

The 2008 movie is a virtue-signalling abomination.


I liked the remake. It was really good.
OL evaluation  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2020 10:01 am : link
I do,expect to see Big George possibly starting at RT. 6í5Ē. 320 ibs....oh yeah!

Solder..Hernandez...Gates....Zeitler...Big George
section125  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2020 10:03 am : link
When you "redshirt" someone, you at least want to be able to coach them up for a couple of months before you IR them. If not, you have actually caused them to regress.
RE: Re- Mark McLaurin true Eric  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2020 10:05 am : link
In comment 14787853 buddyryansux10 said:
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but at least with a broken foot he theoretically should be able to recover and contribute on some level. With a concussion that keeps someone out an entire season, I would imagine that would be seriously career threatening, especially in this day and age.


I would think that his concussion is potentially career-threatening.
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5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2020 10:09 am : link
In comment 14787901 Klaatu said:
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Hey Klaatu, FYI, I just watched your 1951 movie last night and plan on watching the 2008 movie tonight. I like you better as Michael Rennie than KReeves.



The 1951 movie is a classic. One of the best sci-fi movies ever made.

The 2008 movie is a virtue-signalling abomination.


I agree...first time I saw the remake, I turned it off half way through. Iíve decided to watch it in its entirety this time. And yes, the 51 movie is the best.
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section125 : 1/21/2020 10:12 am : link
In comment 14787920 Eric from BBI said:
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When you "redshirt" someone, you at least want to be able to coach them up for a couple of months before you IR them. If not, you have actually caused them to regress.


Why would the regress? Yes they are not getting physical practice(moot point since there will be a new Offense next season). Will he be football rusty? Of course, look at Sam Beal.
But he gets to see the mental part of the game, gets to reshape his body, learn how to train, build physical strength.
I'm spit balling here. But if he isn't a drain on the teams resources, he's like a FA this year.

Maybe JJ and JG cut him. IDK.
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Klaatu : 1/21/2020 10:13 am : link
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I liked the remake. It was really good.


You're dead to me. Zap him, Gort!

RE: RE: Re- Mark McLaurin true Eric  
buddyryansux10 : 1/21/2020 10:13 am : link
In comment 14787924 Eric from BBI said:
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but at least with a broken foot he theoretically should be able to recover and contribute on some level. With a concussion that keeps someone out an entire season, I would imagine that would be seriously career threatening, especially in this day and age.



I would think that his concussion is potentially career-threatening.


Agreed. But if career threatening why keep him around on IR if he may never contribute?
buddyryansux10  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2020 10:17 am : link
I would guess because they don't know yet.
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Klaatu : 1/21/2020 10:18 am : link
In comment 14787911 section125 said:
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Finally, how about not making excuses for a front office that's had two years to fix a problem and has failed miserably?



Here is also an idea....some of the players we have can play in the NFL. Seriously, do you recognize all of the names on the lines of the final four teams? Aside from the 1st rounders do you have a clue as to where or when most of these guys were drafted.
I watch every week and am amazed at the names I see. Who the heck are most of these guys, yet they play well.

I have felt for years that coaching is more the reason that the line is awful. Yes talent does help. But I'll use Hernandez as an example - why in the heck was this guy struggling this year? Also, why was Zeitler not up to snuff. Yes he had a neck injury early. But for Pete's sake, this guy is a top guard and has been. He comes to the Giants and sucks???
Also, Nate Solder at 31 all of a sudden became one of the worst LTs in football? He was never close to All Pro - but he was league average.

So, it isn't just talent. It is far more.


So, not only has the FO failed to acquire premium talent, but it's also failed to get decent coaching for the talent it has acquired.

As James T. Kirk once said, "That's...just...lovely."
section125  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/21/2020 10:19 am : link
Because when you sit out a year of football without practice, it's not going to make you better. You are either getting better or worse.

I guarantee you the Giants didn't saying in early August, let's redshirt George. They would have wanted him to practice during the summer.
the eggshell skull factor  
ColHowPepper : 1/21/2020 10:29 am : link
There is a saying in tort law that the tortfeasor (civil case that might be common battery in a crim case) takes his victim as he finds him. That's another way of saying if a culpable actor hits his victim over the head (as end objective or in connection with conversion (larceny/theft), and victim has an 'eggshell skull', tortfeasor cannot use that 1 in 50,000 chance to exculpate himself.

Concussions takes its 'victim' accordingly. A head trauma that might barely register as skull jarring/rock and roll injury to person A might be life altering for person B. Teammate of my daughter (who has suffered from head trauma) landed flat on her back, head hitting the wood basketball floor surface. Seven years later she still suffers from headaches and finds it challenging to read for long periods, though she has managed to complete college.

If George continued/continues to suffer symptoms, his docs may advise that he risks lifelong deficits. Giants may be hoping for the best, planning for the worst.
RE: Day the Earth Stood still trivia Q  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2020 12:12 pm : link
In comment 14787936 Klaatu said:
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I liked the remake. It was really good.



You're dead to me. Zap him, Gort!



Does anyone (besides Klaatu) know the 3 alien words Patricia Neal had to say to Gort in order to keep him focused and not go off on a killing spree? No fair googling either. Hey Klaatu, give people a chance to answer before you do. I know you know.....you told Neal what to say. Lol
RE: RE: Day the Earth Stood still trivia Q  
Klaatu : 1/21/2020 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14788079 5BowlsSoon said:
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Does anyone (besides Klaatu) know the 3 alien words Patricia Neal had to say to Gort in order to keep him focused and not go off on a killing spree? No fair googling either. Hey Klaatu, give people a chance to answer before you do. I know you know.....you told Neal what to say. Lol


You're kidding, right? I've lost count of how many times posters here have said them to me.
3 words  
giant power : 1/21/2020 1:17 pm : link
Klaatu Barada Nikto. That has come up for me in so many trivia games over the years. Yes, the original is one of the best Sci-fi ever made, lost count how many times I have seen it over the years. The remake is a disaster.
Also  
giant power : 1/21/2020 1:27 pm : link
a funny parody of those three words in the film "Army of Darkness" which I suppose many have seen.
Bonus Questions:  
Klaatu : 1/21/2020 1:44 pm : link
1. After Klaatu gets shot, Gort appears and begins zapping the military hardware surrounding them. What does Klaatu say to get him to back off?

2. In the final scene, after Klaatu gives his warning speech to the assembled dignitaries, he turns to Gort and says one word. Then he enters his spaceship followed by Gort. What was that word?
Klaatu  
giant power : 1/21/2020 3:21 pm : link
As Triumph the insult dog would always say: "Now you are asking to be pooped on". I actually do Know the final instruction which is Baringa. The other one I have no idea and I am not searching the internet to find out. Maybe another film buff in here will know it.
Klaatu  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2020 3:33 pm : link
No one knows? Well, itís been almost two hours....

1. Deklato prosko

I will wait a bit more to give others a chance on 2. That is easier.
I see giant power answered it  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2020 3:36 pm : link
Berenga
RE: Klaatu  
Klaatu : 1/21/2020 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14788424 giant power said:
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As Triumph the insult dog would always say: "Now you are asking to be pooped on". I actually do Know the final instruction which is Baringa. The other one I have no idea and I am not searching the internet to find out. Maybe another film buff in here will know it.


Ha! I love Triumph. I posted a video of him at a Star Wars premier not too long ago. I think it was for one of the prequels. Anyway...



Gort, Diklepto Brosko!
Big ups to both of you.  
Klaatu : 1/21/2020 3:45 pm : link
Yes  
giant power : 1/21/2020 3:59 pm : link
That Star Wars preview is absolutely hysterical. It was for the premier of "Attack of the Clones" or as Triumph would say: "Return of the Dorks".
Hey klaatu  
5BowlsSoon : 1/22/2020 9:00 am : link
I decided to watch the remake last night and surprisingly I liked it much Much more than when I watched it back in 2008. I even remember how upset I was watching Gort become all those flying bugs, but last night, I appreciated the idea much more and saw the wisdom in doing that. I guess I wanted more of Gort to flex his muscles back in 2008 and was disappointed in the bugs. And of course, Jennifer Connelly is very easy to look at. Even Will Smithís son, was superb.

I changed my IMDB rating from 6 to 9.
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