Remember this guy? He was placed on IR I think beginning of 2019. Pre-injury concussion, he sounded promising in the beginning of training camp ( huge grain of salt taken of course ), and I believe he was praised/drafted for working "effectively" everyday against his college teammate Josh Allen, who proved himself his rookie year obliviously.
Contributor this up coming year? I think he would be a good test of the new OL coach, whoever that may be.
Horrific concussion or maybe they knew he wouldn't be much help in year 1 and they were stashing him on IR.
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we have to find out what the heck happened there... he must have had one horrific concussion. And from a camp practice?
Horrific concussion or maybe they knew he wouldn't be much help in year 1 and they were stashing him on IR.
This is most likely. He was going to miss two weeks of camp. A 7th round pick is behind the 8 ball anyway. Stash him. Get him in the weight room. Get him watching film.
Not really sure what they expect from him, but what the heck a swing tackle would be nice...
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we have to find out what the heck happened there... he must have had one horrific concussion. And from a camp practice?
Horrific concussion or maybe they knew he wouldn't be much help in year 1 and they were stashing him on IR.
This is most likely. He was going to miss two weeks of camp. A 7th round pick is behind the 8 ball anyway. Stash him. Get him in the weight room. Get him watching film.
Not really sure what they expect from him, but what the heck a swing tackle would be nice...
This. Basically a redshirt year.
not sure what happened to him but its not huge if he washes out.
Giants definitely should not base this years draft or FA on him being a big But if he is GREAT!
not sure what happened to him but its not huge if he washes out.
Giants definitely should not base this years draft or FA on him being a big But if he is GREAT!
I've seen so many great linemen who were UDFAs that I don't discount a 7th round pick off the cuff.
7th rounders are basically giving a team a clean shot at the UDFAs that they don't have to lure to your team after the dust settles.
I don't know if Big George has what it takes to be a steady RT or swing tackle, but I wouldn't discount him. And as someone pointed out earlier, last year was basically a "red shirt" year for him. Hopefully, he's gotten himself in great shape during the year off and has a better grip on the playbook. Stepping up to the NFL is a big jump and I'm rooting for him.
Could it happen? Sure. But I wouldn't put any money on it.
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we have to find out what the heck happened there... he must have had one horrific concussion. And from a camp practice?
Horrific concussion or maybe they knew he wouldn't be much help in year 1 and they were stashing him on IR.
I'm on board with this idea. Looks a lot like he was stashed on IR here. I think this goes on a lot more than we think or know it does.
Didn’t Nick Gates miss about the same amount of time? I know he was placed on IR before the season and IIRC he missed the entire preseason as well.
Hopefully he can make the team this year
Very possibly, although if it was really that bad I wonder why he didn't get an injury settlement.
Eric, wouldn't be the 1st time a team saw an opportunity to stash a player with potential that they knew would not be ready to play. They may have taken advantage of the IR.
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you guys about stashing him, but he missed almost all of camp and the preseason. They weren't stashing him that early.
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Eric, wouldn't be the 1st time a team saw an opportunity to stash a player with potential that they knew would not be ready to play. They may have taken advantage of the IR.
You're missing the point. He missed almost all of camp and all of the preseason. They weren't stashing him in July and August. That would be stupid.
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you guys about stashing him, but he missed almost all of camp and the preseason. They weren't stashing him that early.
Didn’t Nick Gates miss about the same amount of time? I know he was placed on IR before the season and IIRC he missed the entire preseason as well.
Nick Gates played in three preseason games and didn't miss camp.
I did not know that, thanks Eric! My thought was the Giants may do something for a player that maybe could not play anymore ( Chad Jones comes to mind ). Once again, if his concussion(s) were really that bad.
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If it was really bad (like a torn ACL in other cases), you don't do injury settlements.
I did not know that, thanks Eric! My thought was the Giants may do something for a player that maybe could not play anymore ( Chad Jones comes to mind ). Once again, if his concussion(s) were really that bad.
For example, Mark McLaurin broke his foot in training camp. He wasn't kept around because he was some sort of amazing prospect.
This post from October is really the only thing I saw. I have seen a lot of players deal with post-concussive syndrome. Not necessarily dealing with concussion itself but dealing with resolving the symptoms brought on by the concussion. There could be a lot of contributing factors , but it can make people absolutely miserable. And can be very scary ( especially now a day with CTE concerns). I don't know that this is the case, but it could explain it. There is a really good story of a hockey player in players Tribune a few years ago I will try to find it
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you guys about stashing him, but he missed almost all of camp and the preseason. They weren't stashing him that early.
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Eric, wouldn't be the 1st time a team saw an opportunity to stash a player with potential that they knew would not be ready to play. They may have taken advantage of the IR.
You're missing the point. He missed almost all of camp and all of the preseason. They weren't stashing him in July and August. That would be stupid.
^This. His concussion must have been bad, but he might be able to recover so they put him on IR. Nobody knows what he could become. He's a blank slate. With a year in the weight room and watching film, he might surprise. He also played in the SEC, and went up against Josh Allen in practice every week.
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rarely do 7th round picks become fantastic players or even value starters.
not sure what happened to him but its not huge if he washes out.
Giants definitely should not base this years draft or FA on him being a big But if he is GREAT!
I've seen so many great linemen who were UDFAs that I don't discount a 7th round pick off the cuff.
7th rounders are basically giving a team a clean shot at the UDFAs that they don't have to lure to your team after the dust settles.
I don't know if Big George has what it takes to be a steady RT or swing tackle, but I wouldn't discount him. And as someone pointed out earlier, last year was basically a "red shirt" year for him. Hopefully, he's gotten himself in great shape during the year off and has a better grip on the playbook. Stepping up to the NFL is a big jump and I'm rooting for him.
The playbook? Um, it’s changing.
There is a really good story of a hockey player in players Tribune a few years ago I will try to find it Link - ( New Window )
Found it. If anyone is interested
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Could it happen? Sure. But I wouldn't put any money on it.
What was Richie Seubert once upon a time? A UDFA who was a good athlete.
Let's get an OL coach who can develop Big George into an asset. OK it's a shot in the (almost) dark.
If he practiced well vs Josh Allen, he has a shot. Let's hope he's a worker. All too often that's the diff between chick feathers and chicken salad.
not sure what happened to him but its not huge if he washes out.
Giants definitely should not base this years draft or FA on him being a big But if he is GREAT!
I believe OL is the one position where you get the most from late round guys. Many times they develop later.
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you guys about stashing him, but he missed almost all of camp and the preseason. They weren't stashing him that early.
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Eric, wouldn't be the 1st time a team saw an opportunity to stash a player with potential that they knew would not be ready to play. They may have taken advantage of the IR.
You're missing the point. He missed almost all of camp and all of the preseason. They weren't stashing him in July and August. That would be stupid.
I'm not missing any point. Why would it be stupid? I may not be right, but if they saw potential, but clearly needing physical upgrades to his body and knew he would not be ready for this season in any capacity, why not put him on IR. Clear his concussion, let him lift weights, eat correctly and watch film. Keeps him from being cut and pilfered from the practice squad if not initial claimed.
He it is all mindless speculation but if it was a severe concussion (like Shepard's that cost 4 weeks) why chance further damage this year.
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Hoping that a 7th Round pick who sat out his entire first year somehow becomes a serviceable pro.
Could it happen? Sure. But I wouldn't put any money on it.
What was Richie Seubert once upon a time? A UDFA who was a good athlete.
Let's get an OL coach who can develop Big George into an asset. OK it's a shot in the (almost) dark.
If he practiced well vs Josh Allen, he has a shot. Let's hope he's a worker. All too often that's the diff between chick feathers and chicken salad.
Here's an idea: How about we stop taking shots in the dark and make major investments in the most important unit on the offense? How about not waiting until the 7th Round in the draft before we draft an O-Lineman? How about not depending on reclamation projects like Remmers, chronic underachievers like Pulley, and failed experiments like Halapio? Good coaching - even great coaching - will only get you so far if you don't have the talent to go with it.
Finally, how about not making excuses for a front office that's had two years to fix a problem and has failed miserably?
I don’t think it is any
More complicated than that
Could it happen? Sure. But I wouldn't put any money on it.
Hey Klaatu, FYI, I just watched your 1951 movie last night and plan on watching the 2008 movie tonight. I like you better as Michael Rennie than KReeves.
Hey Klaatu, FYI, I just watched your 1951 movie last night and plan on watching the 2008 movie tonight. I like you better as Michael Rennie than KReeves.
The 1951 movie is a classic. One of the best sci-fi movies ever made.
The 2008 movie is a virtue-signalling abomination.
This. The new coaches pretty much have to evaluate him based off of college and he was a 7th round pick. At this point he may not even make it to the 90 man roster. I guess a lot depends on how he shows up to mini camps or how he carried himself while on IR.
If we sign a RT in FA or Draft one high his career as a Giant may be over. I know we are all pulling for the kid to be a player but it is a long road for him right now.
Finally, how about not making excuses for a front office that's had two years to fix a problem and has failed miserably?
Here is also an idea....some of the players we have can play in the NFL. Seriously, do you recognize all of the names on the lines of the final four teams? Aside from the 1st rounders do you have a clue as to where or when most of these guys were drafted.
I watch every week and am amazed at the names I see. Who the heck are most of these guys, yet they play well.
I have felt for years that coaching is more the reason that the line is awful. Yes talent does help. But I'll use Hernandez as an example - why in the heck was this guy struggling this year? Also, why was Zeitler not up to snuff. Yes he had a neck injury early. But for Pete's sake, this guy is a top guard and has been. He comes to the Giants and sucks???
Also, Nate Solder at 31 all of a sudden became one of the worst LTs in football? He was never close to All Pro - but he was league average.
So, it isn't just talent. It is far more.
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Hey Klaatu, FYI, I just watched your 1951 movie last night and plan on watching the 2008 movie tonight. I like you better as Michael Rennie than KReeves.
The 1951 movie is a classic. One of the best sci-fi movies ever made.
The 2008 movie is a virtue-signalling abomination.
I liked the remake. It was really good.
Solder..Hernandez...Gates....Zeitler...Big George
I would think that his concussion is potentially career-threatening.
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Hey Klaatu, FYI, I just watched your 1951 movie last night and plan on watching the 2008 movie tonight. I like you better as Michael Rennie than KReeves.
The 1951 movie is a classic. One of the best sci-fi movies ever made.
The 2008 movie is a virtue-signalling abomination.
I agree...first time I saw the remake, I turned it off half way through. I’ve decided to watch it in its entirety this time. And yes, the 51 movie is the best.
Why would the regress? Yes they are not getting physical practice(moot point since there will be a new Offense next season). Will he be football rusty? Of course, look at Sam Beal.
But he gets to see the mental part of the game, gets to reshape his body, learn how to train, build physical strength.
I'm spit balling here. But if he isn't a drain on the teams resources, he's like a FA this year.
Maybe JJ and JG cut him. IDK.
I liked the remake. It was really good.
You're dead to me. Zap him, Gort!
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but at least with a broken foot he theoretically should be able to recover and contribute on some level. With a concussion that keeps someone out an entire season, I would imagine that would be seriously career threatening, especially in this day and age.
I would think that his concussion is potentially career-threatening.
Agreed. But if career threatening why keep him around on IR if he may never contribute?
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Finally, how about not making excuses for a front office that's had two years to fix a problem and has failed miserably?
Here is also an idea....some of the players we have can play in the NFL. Seriously, do you recognize all of the names on the lines of the final four teams? Aside from the 1st rounders do you have a clue as to where or when most of these guys were drafted.
I watch every week and am amazed at the names I see. Who the heck are most of these guys, yet they play well.
I have felt for years that coaching is more the reason that the line is awful. Yes talent does help. But I'll use Hernandez as an example - why in the heck was this guy struggling this year? Also, why was Zeitler not up to snuff. Yes he had a neck injury early. But for Pete's sake, this guy is a top guard and has been. He comes to the Giants and sucks???
Also, Nate Solder at 31 all of a sudden became one of the worst LTs in football? He was never close to All Pro - but he was league average.
So, it isn't just talent. It is far more.
So, not only has the FO failed to acquire premium talent, but it's also failed to get decent coaching for the talent it has acquired.
As James T. Kirk once said, "That's...just...lovely."
I guarantee you the Giants didn't saying in early August, let's redshirt George. They would have wanted him to practice during the summer.
Concussions takes its 'victim' accordingly. A head trauma that might barely register as skull jarring/rock and roll injury to person A might be life altering for person B. Teammate of my daughter (who has suffered from head trauma) landed flat on her back, head hitting the wood basketball floor surface. Seven years later she still suffers from headaches and finds it challenging to read for long periods, though she has managed to complete college.
If George continued/continues to suffer symptoms, his docs may advise that he risks lifelong deficits. Giants may be hoping for the best, planning for the worst.
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I liked the remake. It was really good.
You're dead to me. Zap him, Gort!
Does anyone (besides Klaatu) know the 3 alien words Patricia Neal had to say to Gort in order to keep him focused and not go off on a killing spree? No fair googling either. Hey Klaatu, give people a chance to answer before you do. I know you know.....you told Neal what to say. Lol
Does anyone (besides Klaatu) know the 3 alien words Patricia Neal had to say to Gort in order to keep him focused and not go off on a killing spree? No fair googling either. Hey Klaatu, give people a chance to answer before you do. I know you know.....you told Neal what to say. Lol
You're kidding, right? I've lost count of how many times posters here have said them to me.
2. In the final scene, after Klaatu gives his warning speech to the assembled dignitaries, he turns to Gort and says one word. Then he enters his spaceship followed by Gort. What was that word?
1. Deklato prosko
I will wait a bit more to give others a chance on 2. That is easier.
Ha! I love Triumph. I posted a video of him at a Star Wars premier not too long ago. I think it was for one of the prequels. Anyway...
Gort, Diklepto Brosko!
I changed my IMDB rating from 6 to 9.