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Britt in VA : 1/21/2020 9:06 am
-Baylor is the 7th #1 team in the AP Poll, and the rankings seem to shift majorly every week.

-Dayton has a legitimate shot to climb into the Top 5 if they keep winning.

-The A10 is a LOT better than I anticipated and my VCU Rams better get their shit together.

-Shaka Smart officially on the hot seat in Texas after last night's blowout.

-I can't believe how many number ones have lost to unranked teams this year. The whole thing seems to be in upheaval.

-Rutgers is in the Top 25 for the first time in nearly 50 years.

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I am assuming Baylor won last night?  
Jints in Carolina : 1/21/2020 9:12 am : link
And also nice win for my NC State Wolfpack over UVA. I know it isn't the same UVA team as last year but I'll take it.
No excuses necessary for NC State, it's a good win on the road.  
Britt in VA : 1/21/2020 9:19 am : link
UVA is having a rough season, though. 4 losses out of the last 5. That's what happens when you lose three guys to the NBA. Tony will have to get used to that and revamp accordingly.
Rutgers  
GF1080 : 1/21/2020 9:45 am : link
Continuing to clean up at home and doing well overall with the big win on the resume beating Seton Hall. Great road match-up against #19 Iowa tomorrow night.
Did you ever think these...  
bw in dc : 1/21/2020 9:53 am : link
teams would be in the top ten at the same time?

Zaga, Baylor, FSU, San Diego St, Dayton, and Seton Hall...
RE: Did you ever think these...  
Britt in VA : 1/21/2020 9:56 am : link
In comment 14787897 bw in dc said:
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teams would be in the top ten at the same time?

Zaga, Baylor, FSU, San Diego St, Dayton, and Seton Hall...


This just might be the year a mid-major finally wins the whole thing.
UNC  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/21/2020 10:18 am : link
blows...:-(
Would have loved to see where Rutgers would have been ranked  
Sonic Youth : 1/21/2020 10:30 am : link
if they could have closed out on the road against Illinois which was down to the last bucket
Fire Mark Turgeon  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/21/2020 11:11 am : link
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Crazy Crazy year  
Stu11 : 1/21/2020 11:13 am : link
a road win is like spotting big foot this season. Rutgers is a great story, they are going to be a tough out. Seton Hall is really tough too. My Terps in some respects have been disappointing, but in other respects not because Turgeon is still the coach. Why have the same coach for 10 years and expect a different result? Soft as marshmallow on the road and an offense that gets worse and worse as the season goes on...
RE: UNC  
haper : 1/21/2020 11:27 am : link
In comment 14787947 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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blows...:-(
And Roy Williams shows his true colors with the qoute 'least gifted team I've ever coached'. What kind of ego this guy must have to throw a bunch of teenagers under the bus like that.
RE: Fire Mark Turgeon  
Stu11 : 1/21/2020 11:30 am : link
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This +1000
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bw in dc : 1/21/2020 11:43 am : link
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teams would be in the top ten at the same time?

Zaga, Baylor, FSU, San Diego St, Dayton, and Seton Hall...



This just might be the year a mid-major finally wins the whole thing.


This year seems like the perfect storm for that to happen.

Now watch the blue bloods dominate the F4 - Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, Louisville... ;)
RE: RE: Fire Mark Turgeon  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/21/2020 11:50 am : link
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This +1000


There will never be a better time to get rid of him. Perfect storm of declining recruiting, attendance and general fan interest. Willard will be available and should be the top target, but hell call Pitino and bring him back from Greece.
Roy  
Csonka : 1/21/2020 12:24 pm : link
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In comment 14787947 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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blows...:-(
And Roy Williams shows his true colors with the qoute 'least gifted team I've ever coached'. What kind of ego this guy must have to throw a bunch of teenagers under the bus like that.

He should blame the guy that recruited, developed and coached them.
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Stu11 : 1/21/2020 1:05 pm : link
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There will never be a better time to get rid of him. Perfect storm of declining recruiting, attendance and general fan interest. Willard will be available and should be the top target, but hell call Pitino and bring him back from Greece.

Yep I think his Dec/January slump is really ratcheting up the heat. Though I still think it will take a 1st rd. exit to really get Admin to consider pulling the plug. On a happier note Hump my 15 yo daughter did a ton of baby sitting and surprised me with tickets for this past weekend so the whole family spent the weekend down in CP. we loved it, had a blast! haven't spent a weekend down there in over 25 years damn the place has changed. Its like a little city there now.
The hallmark of Willard coaches teams has been...  
Crispino : 1/21/2020 2:06 pm : link
underachievement due to lack of discipline. Heís got a shot to do well in a down year because has one of the top players in the country in Myles Powell. But big time programs should be careful what they wish for before bringing him in.
you dont fire mark turgeon  
jintz4life : 1/21/2020 2:13 pm : link
to hire his clone in kevin willard
RE: you dont fire mark turgeon  
Stu11 : 1/21/2020 2:41 pm : link
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to hire his clone in kevin willard

Agreed Willard is no big upgrade over Turg. Scott Drew is an interesting thought from Baylor. He's had a lot more NCAA tourney success than Turg with a lot less to work with in terms of university support and recruiting...
RE: you dont fire mark turgeon  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/21/2020 2:42 pm : link
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to hire his clone in kevin willard


All comments noted. Willard has outcoached Turgeon in both games the last two years and his teams are noticeably tougher than the Terps. I would say Turgeon still does less with more.

Bruce Pearl is an upgrade but they will have to pay a ton. Don't think this administration would ever sign off on him or Pitino.
RE: RE: you dont fire mark turgeon  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/21/2020 2:43 pm : link
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to hire his clone in kevin willard


Agreed Willard is no big upgrade over Turg. Scott Drew is an interesting thought from Baylor. He's had a lot more NCAA tourney success than Turg with a lot less to work with in terms of university support and recruiting...



If you go down the path of Drew, you are asking for NCAA sanctions.
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Stu11 : 1/21/2020 2:49 pm : link
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to hire his clone in kevin willard


Agreed Willard is no big upgrade over Turg. Scott Drew is an interesting thought from Baylor. He's had a lot more NCAA tourney success than Turg with a lot less to work with in terms of university support and recruiting...




If you go down the path of Drew, you are asking for NCAA sanctions.

Huh? He inherited a mess, but what has he done?
Kevin Willard  
Giants in 07 : 1/21/2020 2:55 pm : link
Former Iona Gaels coach!
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tony stg : 1/21/2020 5:56 pm : link
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to hire his clone in kevin willard


Agreed Willard is no big upgrade over Turg. Scott Drew is an interesting thought from Baylor. He's had a lot more NCAA tourney success than Turg with a lot less to work with in terms of university support and recruiting...




If you go down the path of Drew, you are asking for NCAA sanctions.


Huh? He inherited a mess, but what has he done?

Bobby / Stu - Iíd see if Billy Donovan is tired of the NBA and wants to come back to college.
Comments on Willard  
Rick in Dallas : 1/21/2020 7:23 pm : link
First let me state I am a 1971 grad of Seton Hall. Willard is a very good coach who has done more with average talent than the majority of college BB coaches, How many McDonald All Americans does the Hall get in recruiting. Not many at all. Not many teams wanted Powell because he was out of shape as a HS player.
There are times in the past when they have turned the ball over too much. But compared to other teams with a hell of a lot more talent: Willard has done a great coaching job.
He is doings terrific job coaching the team this year. For me I am happy he is at the Hall. Enough said.
Ugly brawl at the end of Kansas-K.St. game.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/21/2020 9:36 pm : link
It was players vs. players, but it spilled into the stands. There will have to be LENGTHY suspensions for this one.
RE: Ugly brawl at the end of Kansas-K.St. game.  
Stu11 : 1/21/2020 10:07 pm : link
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It was players vs. players, but it spilled into the stands. There will have to be LENGTHY suspensions for this one.

Wow that rivaled Pistons-Pacers. That was really ugly. The flagrant 2 that started it was really bad too. he tomahawks him and then stands over him taunting.
RE: Roy  
MetsAreBack : 1/21/2020 10:13 pm : link
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RE: UNC
haper : 11:27 am : link : reply
In comment 14787947 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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blows...:-(
And Roy Williams shows his true colors with the qoute 'least gifted team I've ever coached'. What kind of ego this guy must have to throw a bunch of teenagers under the bus like that.


He should blame the guy that recruited, developed and coached them.


They have a great recruiting class coming in Itís the worst team - by far - of his career both UNC and Kansas. I thought they sucked even with Anthonyís heroics early on. The guy has won 3 national titles here .... yeah Iím gonna give him a pass

/common sense
RE: RE: RE: RE: you dont fire mark turgeon  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/22/2020 8:06 am : link
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to hire his clone in kevin willard


Agreed Willard is no big upgrade over Turg. Scott Drew is an interesting thought from Baylor. He's had a lot more NCAA tourney success than Turg with a lot less to work with in terms of university support and recruiting...




If you go down the path of Drew, you are asking for NCAA sanctions.


Huh? He inherited a mess, but what has he done?


Sorry, didn't get time to respond - there has been a stigma with Drew going back to 2012 when he got popped for failing to monitor his assistants and paying people associated with recruiting services to cover his camp. The murmurs of paying kids has always been out there with him but that's a Baylor thing in general.

Big win by Turgeon coming back against a 6-win team on the road.
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Pete in MD : 1/22/2020 10:22 am : link
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to hire his clone in kevin willard


Agreed Willard is no big upgrade over Turg. Scott Drew is an interesting thought from Baylor. He's had a lot more NCAA tourney success than Turg with a lot less to work with in terms of university support and recruiting...




If you go down the path of Drew, you are asking for NCAA sanctions.


Huh? He inherited a mess, but what has he done?



Sorry, didn't get time to respond - there has been a stigma with Drew going back to 2012 when he got popped for failing to monitor his assistants and paying people associated with recruiting services to cover his camp. The murmurs of paying kids has always been out there with him but that's a Baylor thing in general.

Big win by Turgeon coming back against a 6-win team on the road.

That was vintage Maryland/Turg basketball. I turned it off, knowing they would probably make a comeback but was already too annoyed by the first half of the game.

On a lighter note, how about former Loyola lacrosse star Pat Spencer playing really well for Northwestern's basketball team? He doesn't quite stand-out on the court the way he dominated the lax field but still nice to see him contributing.
yep Spencer was a beast last night  
Stu11 : 1/22/2020 11:06 am : link
winning the 2nd half by 25 was encouraging, but of course it was Northwestern so nothing to get excited about. Stix really is turning it on. He was pretty much the sole reason they didn't blow the Purdue game Saturday.
That was an ugly, ugly scene  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/22/2020 12:51 pm : link
last night between KU & Kansas State.
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