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NFL teams ISO a QB and the #4 pick

Dnew15 : 1/21/2020 9:35 am
With the regular season already ended and the Super Bowl around the corner, the NFL QB landscape is starting to shape up even more. To me, this is a projected list of teams looking for a QB - either definitely or potentially. With the draft coming up and FA about to begin, the Giant's #4 pick could (and in my opinion will) be a hot a commodity.

Team that will seemingly be looking to address the QB position in some capacity:

1.)Miami - tanked for Tua - may have to move up to get him

2.)Cincy - Burrow seems likely to end up here at #1

3.)NE - TB12 is FA and all signs point to him leaving

4.)Pitt - Big Ben says he's coming back, backups didn't look great

5.)Indy - they're stuck with Brissett next year - but after that he's a FA.

6.)Jax - they've got very little invested in Minshew, they might fall in love with someone in the draft this year, they also didn't love him enough to keep him the starter when Foles came back...who, by the way, stunk.

7.)Titans - Tennehill is a FA - he looked great in the regular season, but do they think he's the answer. Do they have the money to sign both he and Henry?

8.)Raiders - whispers of Gruden not loving Carr? His contract is easily voidable at this point

9.)Chargers - Rivers is seemingly all but gone - Does anyone know who else is on the QB depth chart there?

10.)Broncos - Did Lock show enough at the end of the year to convince anyone he's the long term answer? It feels like they are on the hunt for a QB every year.

11.)Bears - 5th year option on his rookie contract for Trubisky is THIS year.

12.)Bucs - Do the Bucs believe in Winston? Rivers moved to FL and now he's being connected to TB.

13.)Saints - Brees, Bridgewater and Hill are all FA. They've got some decisions to make.

14.)Carolina - what do they do with Cam?

15.) Dallas - they've got to pay Dak like a top 5 QB to keep him this off season. Imagine if Jerry decides to make a run at TB12?

That's 15 teams that should be thinking (at least in my mind) about the QB position and what to do. There's an interesting crop of FA QBs this year - Rivers, TB12, Bridgewater, and Winston (potentially) to fill some of those spots.

That's a lot of deck chairs that need re-arranging and some of these teams are going to be looking to the draft for a QB.

Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Hurts, Eason and Fromm make an interesting group of QBs to pick from and, like someone said, you only need on of those teams to fall in love with someone to make a move up.

I know that DG doesn't trade down but since they are unlikely to land Young - this HAS to be the year it happens with so many teams in need of a QB ... right?
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If Detroit does trade down  
5BowlsSoon : 1/21/2020 12:49 pm : link
We have our choice:
1. Okudah
2. Simmons
3. An OL guy
4. Trade down

I like this.
RE: The Problem with all these scernaios  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/21/2020 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14787892 blueblood said:
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is that Detroit and Washington pick ahead of the Giants..

Detroit is the team in the cat bird seat. Not the Giants



lol

Do you guys realize that every year you guys claim that the Giants are one pick behind the ideal spot. The spot ahead of them is always the prime spot.

They have the #4 pick. They absolutely can trade out. Not convinced they will however.
RE: RE: Yes,  
Tony in Tampa : 1/21/2020 1:07 pm : link
In comment 14788065 Giants38 said:
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the Lions are in a better position, but as someone noted, it's not hard to imagine a team moving up for Herbert.

Asking for a #1 for a small trade down is not realistic, even if we know the other team wants a QB. This is why we never trade down. We ask for way too much, and other teams not surprisingly say no. Then DG comes out and says that all he was offered to trade down was a hot dog, a pretzel, and a box of doughnuts. To go down to #9, I'd take a #2 and a #3. This team has a ton of holes. Get more picks, or for the second straight year, we'll watch 65 picks come off the board in rounds two and three. #9 and a #2 and a #3 is greater than #4.



Detroit may be higher, but they are not necessarily in a better position. Teams want to move up to get a guy, and they typically do it by jumping to the team drafting immediately above that one.

In any event, as I've said on several occasions, Burrow is going 1 and Young going 2. I do not see Washington bypassing Young. That leaves two spots and two QBs in Tua and Herbert. Gettleman should be able to get a haul for Herbert in that situation. You're talking about a QB that - before the season - was in the discussion for the first pick overall. Both Houston and KC gave up a ton to move up and get Watson and Mahomes in 2017, though they were vaulting from the 20s to 10 and 12.

Teams trading into the top 5 should expect to pay a premium to get their QBs. Even if Gettleman only flip flops with Miami, let's say, history shows that he should be able to pick up two thirds in such a swap, a price Miami should easily pay if they want Herbert (or Tua) badly enough.

+1
All it would take and what we should be hoping for is Herbert to light it up at the combine. The guy has a big arm. Guys like that can impress. Plus throw in a decent 40 and this guy will be the talk of Indy while Tua won't even be there. This could be enough for some QB needy team to fall in love with him and shake loose a 2 and other picks this year. Or if they're picking in the teens a 2 and a 1 next yr to move to 4.
Miami is in a bind  
George : 1/21/2020 1:41 pm : link
If they really want Tua, they'll feel like they have to do a preemptive strike to move up to #2 to prevent someone else from jumping them. Washington can and should demand a King's ransom for that pick: they'll get it.
RE: Detroit could also stand pat and take Brown  
Chocco : 1/21/2020 1:45 pm : link
In comment 14788016 ghost718 said:
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He's worth a top 5 pick,and they might be hesitant to trade down with us having the next selection.




Plus Patricia and Quinn are very much on the hot seat. If there is someone they see as a difference maker for their team at 3, they may be hesitant to move down.
RE: Miami is in a bind  
Jim in Tampa : 1/21/2020 3:55 pm : link
In comment 14788243 George said:
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If they really want Tua, they'll feel like they have to do a preemptive strike to move up to #2 to prevent someone else from jumping them. Washington can and should demand a King's ransom for that pick: they'll get it.

No way the 'Skins trade out of that #2 overall spot and give up taking the #1 rated player in the draft.

I think you can write the first two picks in ink. Burrow and Young will go 1-2.

Miami knows they can get Tua at 3. If Detroit like two players equally (Okudah and Simmons?) then they'd be foolish not to trade with Miami.
Umm, Denver didn't hire Shurmur as OC  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/21/2020 4:08 pm : link
with the intent of replacing Lock.

So that's a non-starter for sure and not the only knuckleball you're pitching.
I would cross off Jacksonville  
cosmicj : 1/21/2020 4:18 pm : link
With Foles and what Fu Minchu did as an unprepared rookie, they be better off using their first on another position.
I think also there's a deluge of former 1st round picks  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/21/2020 4:33 pm : link
who'll be available for relative discounts to their original draft position over the next few months. In no particular order,
Young guys:
Winston
Rosen
Trubisky
Mariotta or Tannehill

Old men
Eli
Rivers
Brady
Big Ben

I doubt that's even a complete list...

if DG sits and does nothing  
mdc1 : 1/21/2020 6:24 pm : link
at our spot he needs to be fired on the spot. We need help everywhere. Anything past round 3 is not that useful for us.

However, he will dust off the Jerry Reese playbook and spend like a drunken sailor to protect his job and get close to 8-8 and talk about "how we were knockin on the doe-ah" "jus not enuff juice in the rostah.."
RE: RE: What do you guys think of Matthew Stafford?  
Diver_Down : 1/21/2020 6:53 pm : link
In comment 14787942 Dnew15 said:
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Would he be someone you would put all your faith in, or, would you take a crack at getting an heir (Tua) in yourself?



His contract is brutal for Detroit.


No it's not. I explained it here
RE: RE: RE: What do you guys think of Matthew Stafford?  
Dnew15 : 1/22/2020 9:07 am : link
In comment 14788739 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 14787938 Bill L said:


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Would he be someone you would put all your faith in, or, would you take a crack at getting an heir (Tua) in yourself?



His contract is brutal for Detroit.



No it's not. I explained it here


I went back and changed on that one - I agree - the Lions can get out of that deal pretty easily next year.

I would add the Lions to the list and looked like this morning that there's a rumor at least that Lions might be in play at #3 for a QB.
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