NFT: Mets Managerial Search

in the eyes of Steve Cohen. As far as the Wilpons, this is just another shining example of grand ineptitude.

or Peter Alonzo or Jeff McNeil?

or no manager at all??????

Because that is where we are heading!!!

to have Beltran talk apologize, acknowledge it was wrong, he was only there 1 year, won't let it happen again, etc.

I'm of the belief this would have blown over, if not right away, by opening day it would have.

In comment 14788437 Chris684 said:

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to have Beltran talk apologize, acknowledge it was wrong, he was only there 1 year, won't let it happen again, etc. I'm of the belief this would have blown over, if not right away, by opening day it would have.

You're right, but the Wilpons would NEVER open themselves up to the criticism that would come with doing that.

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In comment 14788437 Chris684 said: Quote: to have Beltran talk apologize, acknowledge it was wrong, he was only there 1 year, won't let it happen again, etc. I'm of the belief this would have blown over, if not right away, by opening day it would have. You're right, but the Wilpons would NEVER open themselves up to the criticism that would come with doing that.

I think it was tough to keep him following the scandal. I was kinda meh on the hire anyhow and tho its a pity we'll never know if Beltran would have been a great one or not, moving forward as quickly as possible is paramount. That it appears nothing is happening is really frustrating and a very Fred and Jeff thing.

figure it'll be Rojas or Meulens. Meulens is likely less desperate to take the job without some sort of assurances. He's a hot commodity. Rojas is likely "desperate" and cheap so they have that over him.

should have included DeFrancesco who might be a mid-point between Rojas and Meulens as he has some MLB experience.

there has been no known movement on interviewing for the position. At this point, it would make sense to hire someone with experience- Baker or Showalter- given the limited time the manager would have in preparing for the season. To throw a first-time manager into this situation would probably set back te team that is built to compete. Beltran was three months into his preparation and the next guy will have three weeks.

In comment 14788467 DanMetroMan said:

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figure it'll be Rojas or Meulens. Meulens is likely less desperate to take the job without some sort of assurances. He's a hot commodity. Rojas is likely "desperate" and cheap so they have that over him.

Have you heard anything about why they gutted their analytics team a few weeks ago?

In comment 14788475 johnnyb said:

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there has been no known movement on interviewing for the position. At this point, it would make sense to hire someone with experience- Baker or Showalter- given the limited time the manager would have in preparing for the season. To throw a first-time manager into this situation would probably set back te team that is built to compete. Beltran was three months into his preparation and the next guy will have three weeks.

Beltran was hired 11/1/2019 and he was fired 1/11/2019, so he had closer to 2 months on the job than 3. A new manager would have about a month less time.

In comment 14788479 Metnut said:

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In comment 14788467 DanMetroMan said: Quote: figure it'll be Rojas or Meulens. Meulens is likely less desperate to take the job without some sort of assurances. He's a hot commodity. Rojas is likely "desperate" and cheap so they have that over him. Have you heard anything about why they gutted their analytics team a few weeks ago?

Nada. Just Seidler (and others) ripping them for it. Have to assume budgetary until told otherwise. One thing to dump guys to bring in others. They didn't replace them with full-time hires so...

In comment 14788482 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 14788475 johnnyb said: Quote: there has been no known movement on interviewing for the position. At this point, it would make sense to hire someone with experience- Baker or Showalter- given the limited time the manager would have in preparing for the season. To throw a first-time manager into this situation would probably set back te team that is built to compete. Beltran was three months into his preparation and the next guy will have three weeks. Pitchers and catchers, on the other hand, report February 11, which is three weeks away. The new manager will have A LOT less time. Beltran was hired 11/1/2019 and he was fired 1/11/2019, so he had closer to 2 months on the job than 3. A new manager would have about a month less time.

Thanks Dan. You are correct- more like 2 1/2 months Beltran being on the job. Pitchers and catchers, though

not particularly concerned with a manager coming in late. Just pick the right guy (and don't pick a stop gap like Collins). The players will see through this as will the fans. If it means firing 3 managers in 2 years (Mickey, Beltran, new guy) after the season because there is a new owner, so be it.

In comment 14788495 DanMetroMan said:

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not particularly concerned with a manager coming in late. Just pick the right guy (and don't pick a stop gap like Collins). The players will see through this as will the fans. If it means firing 3 managers in 2 years (Mickey, Beltran, new guy) after the season because there is a new owner, so be it.

Sorry Dan, I completely screwed up my reply to you. yes, you are correct, Beltran was on the job for a little less than 2 1/2 months. But my concern is pitchers and catchers report on February 11, three weeks from now, and it seems we are not close to filling the job. Tough situation for a first time manager to deal with.

assign it to Rojas and lets go.

he's been here a couple months and will be able to step right in and continue the process we're in.

He has more managerial experience than Beltran had. lol

Coached under Bochy and if you thought highly enough to make him right hand man for first time manager he is probably good enough to manage himself

implies that there is something going on like interviews or outreach to potential candidates. Nothing like that appears to be happening right now. There was a tweet about possible interest in Baker but it doesn't sound like he was actually contacted.

I'd be defending the organization. "This is an unforeseen problem, but not a crisis." (It really isn't.) "It'll get done." (It will.) "It's more important to get it done right than get it done fast." (It is.)

But it is the Wilpons, and that organization is a clown show, except on the field. So IMO they have not only failed to earn the benefit of the doubt, we have every reason they're stuck because of something blindingly stupid Like, Jeff Wilson was on a beach somewhere; or, Fred and Brodie want a splashy name to distract from the quiet off-season so far; or, because the sun came up in the East and they hadn't heard about it in advance so they were caught offguard and unprepared.

The first round this year they interviewed a million guys and had 2nd, 3rd, and 4th interviews. You would think with that much research and time they would have an easy backup in mind.

But noooooooo.

I fucking hate this.

Héctor Gómez
@hgomez27
There is a good chance of a trade between the Pirates and the Mets. The conversations are very advanced. https://twitter.com/PSLToFlushing/status/1219778976455045122 …

In comment 14788887 ZGiants98 said:

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I fucking hate this. Héctor Gómez @hgomez27 There is a good chance of a trade between the Pirates and the Mets. The conversations are very advanced. https://twitter.com/PSLToFlushing/status/1219778976455045122 …

We should be trying to deal from our surplus of OFs to improve the team, not trying to acquire another one. Still hurts that we hired Brodie over Bloom.

In comment 14788902 Metnut said:

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In comment 14788887 ZGiants98 said: Quote: I fucking hate this. Héctor Gómez @hgomez27 There is a good chance of a trade between the Pirates and the Mets. The conversations are very advanced. https://twitter.com/PSLToFlushing/status/1219778976455045122 … We should be trying to deal from our surplus of OFs to improve the team, not trying to acquire another one. Still hurts that we hired Brodie over Bloom.

I never "liked" the Diaz/Cano deal but I could at least understand the rationale considering the financial constraints and our need for a top closer. I said it was fair at the time and although the return looks terrible now, I can probably overlook it if BVW's tenure was solid from then out. I liked the Ramos signing. The JD Davis deal was huge. I like his offseason this year so far and he killed it in the draft IMO.

But I swear I do feel like he cant wait to do something stupid. Even if Marte was free it fucks up our roster in so many ways. A better player will lose playing time. And of course we know its not going to be free... Ugh.

In comment 14788911 ZGiants98 said:

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In comment 14788902 Metnut said: Quote: In comment 14788887 ZGiants98 said: Quote: I fucking hate this. Héctor Gómez @hgomez27 There is a good chance of a trade between the Pirates and the Mets. The conversations are very advanced. https://twitter.com/PSLToFlushing/status/1219778976455045122 … We should be trying to deal from our surplus of OFs to improve the team, not trying to acquire another one. Still hurts that we hired Brodie over Bloom. I never "liked" the Diaz/Cano deal but I could at least understand the rationale considering the financial constraints and our need for a top closer. I said it was fair at the time and although the return looks terrible now, I can probably overlook it if BVW's tenure was solid from then out. I liked the Ramos signing. The JD Davis deal was huge. I like his offseason this year so far and he killed it in the draft IMO. But I swear I do feel like he cant wait to do something stupid. Even if Marte was free it fucks up our roster in so many ways. A better player will lose playing time. And of course we know its not going to be free... Ugh.

Good bet the trade involves some combination of Davis, Smith, Gimenez.

Wonder if they'll also go after Nolan Arenado. If they went after both Marte and Arenado either McNeill or Cano would have to go. Davis wouldn't have a position. Please, don't trade McNeill...

But if this was something like Davis for Marte and then nimmo + smith + giminez for Arenado that would make sense to me. Have McNeil, Marte, conforto and ces as your outfield with McNeil resting cano and arendado 2x a week. Not sure either Colorado, Mets or pirates would do that but it’s certainly only scenario I see this being a positive.

Point72 made a number of personnel moves recently, including their head of communications leaving the firm to start his own shop. This guy helped Cohen with media communications during the time when his insider investigation was ramping up. Going forward he will represent Cohen's media relations and communications in his efforts to buy 80% of the Mets at his new firm.

Good news for those of us who were getting nervous about the lack of news around the sale of the team. All signs are pointing toward Steve Cohen making preparations to buy the team.

In comment 14788902 Metnut said:

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In comment 14788887 ZGiants98 said: Quote: I fucking hate this. Héctor Gómez @hgomez27 There is a good chance of a trade between the Pirates and the Mets. The conversations are very advanced. https://twitter.com/PSLToFlushing/status/1219778976455045122 … We should be trying to deal from our surplus of OFs to improve the team, not trying to acquire another one. Still hurts that we hired Brodie over Bloom.

unless they have a partner for Cespedes, but I'm not a fan of this either.

As a big fan of Nimmo I dont want to see him moved, however I wonder if his health (back) is seen as a future chronic issue...

Either way, they better be getting ready to offer an extension to Conforto. At only 26 yrs old, he's going to be alot more expensive if he hits another 30+ hrs this year.