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Will the super bowl be broadcast in 4k?

NJBlueTuna : 1/21/2020 4:03 pm
Still waiting for 4k to be more prevalent for sports broadcasting Re MLB and NFL. Frustrated.
Yes, Google search it  
aimrocky : 1/21/2020 4:05 pm : link
Fox will broadcast on their app.
I believe MLB has streamed a few games in 4k  
bigblue5611_2 : 1/21/2020 4:10 pm : link
through apps like ESPN and FOX, no?
This is a serious question...  
rebel yell : 1/21/2020 4:31 pm : link
I'm not being an instigator. Is the video quality really that noticeable? I have a 65inch LG UHD 4K, but I don't think I've ever watched a 4K broadcast.
RE: This is a serious question...  
jcn56 : 1/21/2020 4:32 pm : link
In comment 14788543 rebel yell said:
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I'm not being an instigator. Is the video quality really that noticeable? I have a 65inch LG UHD 4K, but I don't think I've ever watched a 4K broadcast.


Absolutely. In the rebroadcast of the Andy Reid's last Super Bowl appearance you can actually tell what McNabb had for lunch.
rebel  
bigblue5611_2 : 1/21/2020 4:40 pm : link
I would have to say yes to that. The newer TV's, especially the mid to higher tier ones, will upscale content to as close to 4k as possible, but the native 4k is still much better.
An app???  
NJBlueTuna : 1/21/2020 5:01 pm : link
So if I have a 4k tv I cannot see the super bowl in 4k through my cable provider, Verizon Fios? I have to use an app???
RE: This is a serious question...  
81_Great_Dane : 1/21/2020 6:09 pm : link
In comment 14788543 rebel yell said:
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I'm not being an instigator. Is the video quality really that noticeable? I have a 65inch LG UHD 4K, but I don't think I've ever watched a 4K broadcast.
Honestly, it depends on how big your TV is and how close you sit. At a normal American* viewing distance, around 9', you should be able to see a difference on a 65-inch TV. The bigger the TV and the closer you sit, the bigger the difference. There are tables somewhere on the Internet to work out this sort of thing.

First time I saw a 4K TV in Best Buy, they had it mounted on the end of a shelf unit, if you can picture that. The next shelf unit was about 7" away. You literally couldn't stand any farther from the TV than 6-7". Which was a nifty trick; that distance really showed off UHD. But if you sit farther back the difference becomes less noticeable.

*Japanese domiciles are smaller, people tend to sit closer to the TV, and a lot of the manufacturers are Japanese. They are thinking about different norms.
sorry, 7' away, 7 feet.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/21/2020 6:18 pm : link
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Toyko  
XBRONX : 1/21/2020 6:35 pm : link
Olympics in 8K
RE: An app???  
aimrocky : 1/21/2020 6:47 pm : link
In comment 14788582 NJBlueTuna said:
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So if I have a 4k tv I cannot see the super bowl in 4k through my cable provider, Verizon Fios? I have to use an app???


Yes. Download the app and login with your cable service. It’s pretty simple.
RE: sorry, 7' away, 7 feet.  
Larry from WV : 1/21/2020 7:34 pm : link
In comment 14788699 81_Great_Dane said:
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Exactly. 4k is equivalent to the emperor's clothes. You can tell if you are within 8 feet but most don't sit that close. 10 bit color is a much bigger deal but everyone is focused on resolution.

I have 20 years experience as an AV design engineer and hold my CTS-D.
RE: RE: sorry, 7' away, 7 feet.  
darren in pdx : 1/21/2020 7:57 pm : link
In comment 14788859 Larry from WV said:
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Exactly. 4k is equivalent to the emperor's clothes. You can tell if you are within 8 feet but most don't sit that close. 10 bit color is a much bigger deal but everyone is focused on resolution.

I have 20 years experience as an AV design engineer and hold my CTS-D.


Bit-depth and proper presentation of HDR color spaces make the difference, you are right.
Fox "4k" games are actually 1080  
bLiTz 2k : 1/21/2020 8:00 pm : link
Upscaled.

NFL still has a long way to go.
RE: RE: sorry, 7' away, 7 feet.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/22/2020 1:21 am : link
In comment 14788859 Larry from WV said:
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In comment 14788699 81_Great_Dane said:


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Exactly. 4k is equivalent to the emperor's clothes. You can tell if you are within 8 feet but most don't sit that close. 10 bit color is a much bigger deal but everyone is focused on resolution.

I have 20 years experience as an AV design engineer and hold my CTS-D.
Agree! HDR and expanded color gamut is much more impactful. I love HDR -- but not on my own TV. I have an "entry-level" LG 4K TV. It handles HDR by basically by turning the backlight up to 100 for highlights and speculars, then darkening the midtones and shadows two stops. So the highlights and speculars look great, but the overall frame is dark. It's kind of maddening.
RE: Toyko  
81_Great_Dane : 1/22/2020 1:24 am : link
In comment 14788717 XBRONX said:
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Olympics in 8K
I saw a presentation a few years back by NHK. They said then that they were planning to demonstrate holographic TV at the 2020 Olympics. That might even actually happen.

Sounds cool but I don't think anything's imminent in terms of consumer products. NHK first demonstrated HDTV at the 1964 Tokyo Olympics. And that took, what, about 40 years to become a mainstream consumer product?
RE: Fox  
penkap75 : 1/22/2020 9:05 am : link
In comment 14788896 bLiTz 2k said:
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Upscaled.

NFL still has a long way to go.


Even upscaled 4k on my 4k TV using Roku Fox Sports app looks astronomically better then the shitty 720p Fox cable broadcast (FIOS). The HDR mode on my TV is active, but I really don't notice the HDR effect compared to other HDR content, but the upscaled 4k is nice.
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