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Jaguars to hire Jay Gruden for OC

Mr. Nickels : 1/21/2020 9:28 pm
The Jaguars plan to hire former Redskins coach Jay Gruden as their next offensive coordinator, sources tell me and @TomPelissero.
I wonder if Judge (or the the hierarchy) ever considered  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/21/2020 9:33 pm : link
him?
RE: I wonder if Judge (or the the hierarchy) ever considered  
Ben in Tampa : 1/21/2020 9:39 pm : link
In comment 14788978 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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There is a clear link between Judge and his coaches, he was probably not a top candidate for this staff
RE: I wonder if Judge (or the the hierarchy) ever considered  
section125 : 1/21/2020 9:45 pm : link
In comment 14788978 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Which hierarchy are you talking about...?

And after watching DC for a while with Jay Gruden you would actually think he is better than Garrett?
RE: RE: I wonder if Judge (or the the hierarchy) ever considered  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/21/2020 9:56 pm : link
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Which hierarchy are you talking about...?

And after watching DC for a while with Jay Gruden you would actually think he is better than Garrett?


Yeah, I do. I wouldn't trust Kirk Cousins to screw in a lightbulb, but look at his numbers in 3 seasons under Gruden. 3 of the 5 highest scoring seasons of the Andy Dalton era in CIN occurred while Gruden was the OC. I don't dislike the Garrett hiring (and I certainly think Judge is entitled to pick whomever he wants), but I think Gruden is a better offensive coach.
I would have liked to have heard that Gruden at least interviewed for  
Ivan15 : 1/21/2020 10:40 pm : link
a Giants job.
RE: RE: I wonder if Judge (or the the hierarchy) ever considered  
FStubbs : 1/21/2020 10:56 pm : link
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In comment 14788978 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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Which hierarchy are you talking about...?

And after watching DC for a while with Jay Gruden you would actually think he is better than Garrett?


This. Also it's been rumored that not all the dysfunction in Washington was due to Snyder and Allen.
Jj wanted Garrett, not Gruden,  
Big Blue '56 : 1/22/2020 7:07 am : link
otherwise Gruden would be our OC (unless he didn’t want to come here). Pretty simple, imv
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section125 : 1/22/2020 7:40 am : link
In comment 14789013 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Which hierarchy are you talking about...?

And after watching DC for a while with Jay Gruden you would actually think he is better than Garrett?



Yeah, I do. I wouldn't trust Kirk Cousins to screw in a lightbulb, but look at his numbers in 3 seasons under Gruden. 3 of the 5 highest scoring seasons of the Andy Dalton era in CIN occurred while Gruden was the OC. I don't dislike the Garrett hiring (and I certainly think Judge is entitled to pick whomever he wants), but I think Gruden is a better offensive coach.


Kirk Cousins is a better QB than you want to acknowledge - quite obviously he took the Vikings into the playoffs. He is not a "franchise" QB, but he is second tier. Andy Dalton is a similar QB in that he is good enough to take a team to the playoffs, but not good enough to beat the upper tier QBs.
I am far more comfortable with Garrett as OC than Gruden although I'd bet that Garrett is gone to be a HC elsewhere before Gruden, so the Giants will lose Garrett after two seasons is my guess. I don't see Gruden being a HC anytime soon.
I'm not saying anything against Gruden, I just think Garrett is better.
Gruden dealt with a lot more adversity than Garrett, in the past few  
Ivan15 : 1/22/2020 8:43 am : link
Years. I thought the Washington offense and Dallas offense were similar but Dallas had more talent to work with. I would have been happy with either running the offense that I think the Giants will play.
RE: I wonder if Judge (or the the hierarchy) ever considered  
5BowlsSoon : 1/22/2020 8:45 am : link
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