For a position player to get a 100% vote , I personally feel like at least 1 league MVP should be on your resume. Just my personal opinion. Jeter is obviously a no brainer hof-er though
but Jeter can be the 200th best HOFer of all time and there is still no reason every voter didn't have him on their ballot.
There is some turd who kept him off because as of today he/she is of the opinion that Jeter is not a HOFer. How is that justified? They vote their conscience not as part of some collective (in theory).
Brad Penny got a vote. JJ Putz got a vote. Perhaps all of the above by the same person who really needs to sack-up and come forward with their position.
but Jeter can be the 200th best HOFer of all time and there is still no reason every voter didn't have him on their ballot.
There is some turd who kept him off because as of today he/she is of the opinion that Jeter is not a HOFer. How is that justified? They vote their conscience not as part of some collective (in theory).
Brad Penny got a vote. JJ Putz got a vote. Perhaps all of the above by the same person who really needs to sack-up and come forward with their position.
Babe Ruth was not a unanimous HOFer. Neither was Ty Cobb, Joe DiMaggio, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Hank Aaron, Mike Schmidt, George Brett, Cal Ripken Jr., Ken Griffey Jr., and on and on.
All of them were just as deserving as Jeter, if not more so.
He's still in the HOF now, so WGAF whether it was unanimous. Jeter has gotten plenty of accolades through his career, HOF enshrinement now chief among them. But in no way is it a slight for him to not have been the first unanimous first-ballot HOF position player. Quite frankly, compared to those names above, he doesn't especially deserve to be, either (IMO).
- Someone from Miami because they don't like what's been going on with the Marlins
- Someone from the Houston area press because they are circling the wagons even though they are proven cheaters, but everything around that organization, including media who have covered them are all turning out to be immense dicks. So it was done out of spite.
- A protest vote for the Jeter only ballots
I actually don't think it's one of the Boston writers. The Red Sox group actually has a great deal of respect for Jeter.
In the end though, I"ll bet whoever it is is prepping the hot take article of all time for the reason he didn't vote for Jeter and will publish his article which will get a zillion clicks and he's probably working on setting up the ad revenue/sponsorships right now. So they will "win" by getting a boost in revenue and their name will forever be linked with Jeter.
- Someone from Miami because they don't like what's been going on with the Marlins
- Someone from the Houston area press because they are circling the wagons even though they are proven cheaters, but everything around that organization, including media who have covered them are all turning out to be immense dicks. So it was done out of spite.
- A protest vote for the Jeter only ballots
I actually don't think it's one of the Boston writers. The Red Sox group actually has a great deal of respect for Jeter.
In the end though, I"ll bet whoever it is is prepping the hot take article of all time for the reason he didn't vote for Jeter and will publish his article which will get a zillion clicks and he's probably working on setting up the ad revenue/sponsorships right now. So they will "win" by getting a boost in revenue and their name will forever be linked with Jeter.
In the end though, I"ll bet whoever it is is prepping the hot take article of all time for the reason he didn't vote for Jeter and will publish his article which will get a zillion clicks and he's probably working on setting up the ad revenue/sponsorships right now. So they will "win" by getting a boost in revenue and their name will forever be linked with Jeter.
This is a pretty good take right here and probably ends up being the case.
Jeter is in the HOF with 98% of the vote. It's one of the highest percentages ever. Babe Ruth received 95% of the vote. I am a lifelong Yankees fan and I don't see any problem with the vote. Life goes on. Congratulations to Hall of Famer Derek Jeter!!
There is some turd who kept him off because as of today he/she is of the opinion that Jeter is not a HOFer. How is that justified?
C'mon, I think everyone knows that whoever withheld their vote from Jeter didn't do it because they think he's not a HOF'er. You're free to think leaving him off for the sake of leaving him off is silly, but we all know he or she wasn't voting their opinion of his worthiness for the Hall, anymore than all the other votes withheld from no-doubt HOF'ers.
Is that it's someone who thought Mariano should be the only unanimous HOF inductee. That's the only argument that makes even a little bit of sense (although disagree with it).
I guess being short by one vote is a good sign overall of less voters carrying personal grudges. I mean, for decades, Seaver was highest percentage but not unanimous. Who didn’t vote for Seaver?
Worse for mantle and DiMaggio - shocking that people left them out but they were in the 80s percentage wise I believe.
Willie freaking Mays got 94 percent and Ted Williams 93. Who didn’t votes for them?
Even a few years back, Griffey was a few votes shy of unanimous - and I don’t see how Jr was left off any ballots.
Only upside is that Mo stands alone, and for my money, he’s the best athlete at his job, that I’ve ever seen in any sport. Period.
But the sooner people get over themselves with “protest votes” or “hot take” votes or “he didn’t answer my questions” votes, the better.
It's beyond silly the writers have created a fake utility in their vote to create different classes in the hall.
Based on the criteria and the best information at the time a guy either is or isn't.
Time and context moves guys up and down, and it's perfectly reasonable to change your mind. Mussina is a good example. With a little breathing room it's clear the guy was a fabulous pitcher in a tough era.
But who the eff looks at Griffey, Jeter, Pedro, and needs more context to know he's a HOFer?
The same haters vote on, it is a vote, Judge had a better year then Altuve, he lost because of the hatred people have for the Yanks. Ichiro wins rookie of the year in 2001, in 2003 when Matsui is going to win it they say, he really isn't a rookie, lets give it to Angel Berroa, he hit .287, 17 homers, 73 rbi's, .789 ops, 101 ops+ /Matsui hit .287, 16 hr's, 106 rbi's, 788ops, 109 ops+. Munson is not in the hall of shame because he was killed and was a Yankee. Does anyone know Munson threw out of higher percentage of base stealers then Bench. Yet Bench was one so great at it, nobody looks at that, but they tell us Jeter was not good defensively because they love that little knock.
The rings, without cheating, and fuck them all. We won 4 out of 5 without an mvp, or cy young winner, even with Mo. The penalty this commishioner levied is criminal, this scumbag don't put Rose in the hall now and we have a crooked game, they must throwthe cheaters out of baseball, the precident was set and if he don't, why is Pete out, we allow cheaters in our game.
He probably sent a post boink gift basket to one of their daughters Â
those beardy fuckers would be parading him around town at this point in celebration, I doubt they'd choose to remain anonymous and not take credit for the hit.
I doubt it's a Mets or Red Sox writer. I hated that Torre era team but always respected Jeter's game. There's a difference between hating the Yankees and being blind. I don't like Jeter but he's a hall of famer no question about it. Same thing with Rivera last year.
Maybe it's a Marlins writer or someone connected to one of the hall of famers he fired down there. I think that's more likely.
Is that it's someone who thought Mariano should be the only unanimous HOF inductee. That's the only argument that makes even a little bit of sense (although disagree with it).
That's my thinking as well.
Mo was the best closer ever and it's not even close so if anyone deserves to be unanimous, it's the guy who is the all time best at his position.
I've been a lifelong Yankee fan going back to the Jake Gibbs/Horace Clarke days. While I love Jeter, the fact is he wasn't the greatest SS ever so I don't have a problem with him not being unanimous.
The bar used to be getting in on the first ballot, and hell, Joe D didn't get in until his fourth try. Jeter getting in with almost 98% of the vote his first time around is a pretty damn great accomplishment and I'm just glad he was first ballot.
I hope no one names him or gives him the attention he wants.
Whoever it was did it anonymously, which is a little hard to reconcile with wanting publicity.
There is some turd who kept him off because as of today he/she is of the opinion that Jeter is not a HOFer. How is that justified? They vote their conscience not as part of some collective (in theory).
Brad Penny got a vote. JJ Putz got a vote. Perhaps all of the above by the same person who really needs to sack-up and come forward with their position.
There is some turd who kept him off because as of today he/she is of the opinion that Jeter is not a HOFer. How is that justified? They vote their conscience not as part of some collective (in theory).
Brad Penny got a vote. JJ Putz got a vote. Perhaps all of the above by the same person who really needs to sack-up and come forward with their position.
Babe Ruth was not a unanimous HOFer. Neither was Ty Cobb, Joe DiMaggio, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Hank Aaron, Mike Schmidt, George Brett, Cal Ripken Jr., Ken Griffey Jr., and on and on.
All of them were just as deserving as Jeter, if not more so.
He's still in the HOF now, so WGAF whether it was unanimous. Jeter has gotten plenty of accolades through his career, HOF enshrinement now chief among them. But in no way is it a slight for him to not have been the first unanimous first-ballot HOF position player. Quite frankly, compared to those names above, he doesn't especially deserve to be, either (IMO).
- Someone from the Houston area press because they are circling the wagons even though they are proven cheaters, but everything around that organization, including media who have covered them are all turning out to be immense dicks. So it was done out of spite.
- A protest vote for the Jeter only ballots
I actually don't think it's one of the Boston writers. The Red Sox group actually has a great deal of respect for Jeter.
In the end though, I"ll bet whoever it is is prepping the hot take article of all time for the reason he didn't vote for Jeter and will publish his article which will get a zillion clicks and he's probably working on setting up the ad revenue/sponsorships right now. So they will "win" by getting a boost in revenue and their name will forever be linked with Jeter.
- Someone from the Houston area press because they are circling the wagons even though they are proven cheaters, but everything around that organization, including media who have covered them are all turning out to be immense dicks. So it was done out of spite.
- A protest vote for the Jeter only ballots
I actually don't think it's one of the Boston writers. The Red Sox group actually has a great deal of respect for Jeter.
In the end though, I"ll bet whoever it is is prepping the hot take article of all time for the reason he didn't vote for Jeter and will publish his article which will get a zillion clicks and he's probably working on setting up the ad revenue/sponsorships right now. So they will "win" by getting a boost in revenue and their name will forever be linked with Jeter.
fully agree with this, 99.7, pretty good.
Only the Sandman has every done it.
Only the Sandman has every done it.
"ever done it."
In the end though, I"ll bet whoever it is is prepping the hot take article of all time for the reason he didn't vote for Jeter and will publish his article which will get a zillion clicks and he's probably working on setting up the ad revenue/sponsorships right now. So they will "win" by getting a boost in revenue and their name will forever be linked with Jeter.
This is a pretty good take right here and probably ends up being the case.
C'mon, I think everyone knows that whoever withheld their vote from Jeter didn't do it because they think he's not a HOF'er. You're free to think leaving him off for the sake of leaving him off is silly, but we all know he or she wasn't voting their opinion of his worthiness for the Hall, anymore than all the other votes withheld from no-doubt HOF'ers.
I guess being short by one vote is a good sign overall of less voters carrying personal grudges. I mean, for decades, Seaver was highest percentage but not unanimous. Who didn’t vote for Seaver?
Worse for mantle and DiMaggio - shocking that people left them out but they were in the 80s percentage wise I believe.
Willie freaking Mays got 94 percent and Ted Williams 93. Who didn’t votes for them?
Even a few years back, Griffey was a few votes shy of unanimous - and I don’t see how Jr was left off any ballots.
Only upside is that Mo stands alone, and for my money, he’s the best athlete at his job, that I’ve ever seen in any sport. Period.
But the sooner people get over themselves with “protest votes” or “hot take” votes or “he didn’t answer my questions” votes, the better.
Anyway, congrats to Jeter. Obviously deserving.
Based on the criteria and the best information at the time a guy either is or isn't.
Time and context moves guys up and down, and it's perfectly reasonable to change your mind. Mussina is a good example. With a little breathing room it's clear the guy was a fabulous pitcher in a tough era.
But who the eff looks at Griffey, Jeter, Pedro, and needs more context to know he's a HOFer?
Are there Marlins writers?
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looking to boost his failing career through notoriety from this absurd vote.
Whoever it was did it anonymously, which is a little hard to reconcile with wanting publicity.
shows what I know
I didn't know the votes were anonymous
still bullshit though
Maybe it's a Marlins writer or someone connected to one of the hall of famers he fired down there. I think that's more likely.
That's my thinking as well.
Mo was the best closer ever and it's not even close so if anyone deserves to be unanimous, it's the guy who is the all time best at his position.
I've been a lifelong Yankee fan going back to the Jake Gibbs/Horace Clarke days. While I love Jeter, the fact is he wasn't the greatest SS ever so I don't have a problem with him not being unanimous.
The bar used to be getting in on the first ballot, and hell, Joe D didn't get in until his fourth try. Jeter getting in with almost 98% of the vote his first time around is a pretty damn great accomplishment and I'm just glad he was first ballot.