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Daniel Jeremiah lists his top 50 for NFL draft

YANKEE28 : 1/22/2020 8:16 pm
He does a great job evaluating talent.
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Thanks,  
Big Blue '56 : 1/22/2020 8:21 pm : link
very informative
Seems like a perfect match for Joe...  
BleedingBlue2 : 1/22/2020 8:32 pm : link
Simmons is an extremely versatile, athletic defensive chess piece. He is a long, rangy athlete who lined up at linebacker, over the slot and in the deep middle for Clemson, thanks to his diverse and unique skill set. Against the pass, he has terrific range and instincts from the deep middle. He has the speed and agility to match up with top-flight tight ends and backs underneath. He is an explosive blitzer off the edge and in through the middle. Simmons overpowers running backs in protection. Against the run, he takes good angles and his speed allows him to make plays from the back side. He will struggle at times if he has to take on blocks on the edge. Overall, Simmons is built for today's NFL and his role could change week to week, depending on the opponent.
Missing a few of my favorites...  
bw in dc : 1/22/2020 8:33 pm : link
but that is a good top 50.
Looking at list....a small trade down would be great.  
George from PA : 1/22/2020 8:40 pm : link
The QB hungry teams will pay to move up....gaining 2 additional picks.....netting 4 draft picks.

Still would love Chase Young, but he will not fall to the Giants.

Drafting a stud OT and center to set the offense seems very doable and stud FS/LB and corner....to set the defense and also doable.

Not sure if that Edge/DE can be found....which becomes a must in FA.

Thanks for posting  
giant power : 1/22/2020 8:40 pm : link
YANKEE28. Everybody has a different opinion on how they judge and view the talent level of players in the draft. With that said, Jeremiah dropped three very highly touted players, Andrew Thomas, Delpit and Espenesa way down his proposed prospect board. Any team that can nab one of those three players that late in the first round will be very fortunate indeed.
Man there’s no consensus on the OTs  
V.I.G. : 1/22/2020 8:48 pm : link
I’m really hoping we can get 5,19 from MIA and get a defensive stuns and one of those LTs
I'm started to buy into  
Dr. D : 1/22/2020 8:50 pm : link
Simmons. I know we have a lot of needs and a lot of people would prefer to trade down. But our D is in dire need of some difference makers.

Simmons seems like the definition of flexible for a team that wants to be flexible.
Thinks Wirfs can be an all pro guard  
The_Boss : 1/22/2020 8:54 pm : link
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Simmons  
Saquads26 : 1/22/2020 8:55 pm : link
And then one of the guys he has 33-35 would be nice if they make it to pick 36 for us.
Senior bowl week  
ghost718 : 1/22/2020 9:01 pm : link
has become Senior smoke a bowl week
Ruiz for our 2nd pick?  
ColHowPepper : 1/22/2020 9:08 pm : link
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I'm surprised not to see  
LS : 1/22/2020 9:10 pm : link
DE Yetur-Gross Matos listed.
RE: Man there’s no consensus on the OTs  
WalterSobchak : 1/22/2020 9:15 pm : link
In comment 14790197 V.I.G. said:
[quote] I’m really hoping we can get 5,19 from MIA and get a defensive stuns and one of those LTs [/quote
Jets gave up 3 second rounders to move from 6 to 3 two years ago. Seems unlikely to think we would get a mid first rd for moving back 1 spot unless MIA was very desparate . Possible yes but I think a 2nd rounder is more likely. I would be thrilled with an extra 2nd and the 5th pick personally.
If we  
MtDizzle : 1/22/2020 9:22 pm : link
stay out and walk out of the first two rounds with Isaiah Simmons and Austin Jackson that’s a grand slam in my book.
Isaiah Simmons  
JohnB : 1/22/2020 9:27 pm : link
sounds like someone the Giants want on their team. He checks all the boxes.
He lists Wirfs as a guard  
Ira : 1/22/2020 9:35 pm : link
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If DG can accomplish a trade down and get an  
Earl the goat : 1/22/2020 9:43 pm : link
Additional first and second

My mock would look like this with Jeremiahs rankings

Becton LT
Jefferson WR
Ruiz C
Murray LB

Quite the haul
Andrew Thomas really seems to be falling  
Breeze_94 : 1/22/2020 9:48 pm : link
none of the draftniks have him going top 5, and some have him falling outside of the top 10.

I personally think he looked great vs LSU.

That said, I actually watched some of Jedrick Wills and he was impressive. Moves very effortlessly and always seems to keep himself between the qb/ball carrier and the defender. Whether he's in pass-pro or creating a running lane.

Becton is also a monster, haven't watched him as much but you can see he has the tools to be the best OT in the class. 6'7, 360lb with good feet. And he's only 20 years old!
If Judge is that serious  
illmatic : 1/22/2020 9:49 pm : link
about versatility then I’m thinking Simmons will be the pick unless he disappoints for some reason in workouts. Ruiz in the second would be nice too. They have to do something at center. Imagine drafting Ruiz and signing Conklin. They would have something brewing with that OL.
I just want to start the season  
CT Charlie : 1/22/2020 10:04 pm : link
with a good player at center. Anchor the line, make the calls, drive forward or hold the pocket. Don't care if he's 22 or 32 -- I just want somebody directly in front of DJ who Does His Job.
RE: I just want to start the season  
M.S. : 1/22/2020 10:12 pm : link
In comment 14790260 CT Charlie said:
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with a good player at center. Anchor the line, make the calls, drive forward or hold the pocket. Don't care if he's 22 or 32 -- I just want somebody directly in front of DJ who Does His Job.

I’m with you!!!
1, 2  
lugnut : 1/22/2020 10:19 pm : link
Based on Jeremiah's rankings, I. Simmons then C. Ruiz would be right there for us. I'd take it in a heartbeat.
I didn't add them up  
Marty866b : 1/22/2020 10:56 pm : link
But it appeared that 3/4 of the players listed came from the SEC and predominately just Alabama, LSU, and Georgia.
Why does he called Becton  
Mr. Bungle : 1/22/2020 11:03 pm : link
a "dominating run defender"?

Odd.
I don’t think versatile means jack of all trades. Pats don’t play that  
Ivan15 : 1/22/2020 11:07 pm : link
way. Having a safety who can play deep or in the box is versatile. Having an edge rusher who can rush or drop back in pass coverage is versatile. Having a LB whose position varies by his coach’s indecision, who may play better in the traditional role is not versatile.
Man I wish Gettlemen drafted Jawaan Taylor, Cody Ford, Greg Little...  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/22/2020 11:46 pm : link
...Elgton Jenkins or Erik McCoy instead of Baker. Then we'd have a solid OL entering his second year and a real bluechip CB prospect in Okudah.
RE: I'm surprised not to see  
bw in dc : 1/22/2020 11:47 pm : link
In comment 14790215 LS said:
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DE Yetur-Gross Matos listed.


Jesus, good catch there. That is a miss by Jeremiah.

And the LT for LSU, Saaddiq Charles, is very underrated. He's better than Austin Jackson.

And Jordan Love ahead of Herbert? I loved Love - pun intended - coming into '19 but he has a HORRIBLE season. Herbert, on the other hand, bounced back from a horrible 2018. I just can't justify that one either...
no LT's in FA  
lcrim : 1/23/2020 12:06 am : link
Need to get a LT in draft. A LB that can keep the center of the field clean would build on our D line strength.
There is a C in FA but Conklin at RT is a waste of money.
Hell of lot of WR in this Jeremiah ranking so if Gettleman can be convinced to trade down to get three top picks in the top 50, get a true #1 receiver. The order will depend on how things break.

Larry
I think that Isaiah Wilson, the RT from Georgia, is a 2nd rounder  
yatqb : 1/23/2020 3:10 am : link
who might actually rise. Another huge guy, dominant in the running game, and has good feet. Still inexperienced as a RSSoph but I think he’s going to be very good in a year.
Gentleman's dream draft....  
GMen72 : 1/23/2020 4:33 am : link
1st - DT Brown (AUB)
2nd - DT Gallimore (OU)

The fact some of you think DG is capable of crushing this draft is laughable.
RE: Gentleman's dream draft....  
SGMen : 1/23/2020 4:37 am : link
In comment 14790353 GMen72 said:
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1st - DT Brown (AUB)
2nd - DT Gallimore (OU)

The fact some of you think DG is capable of crushing this draft is laughable.
We don't need Brown if we sign L. Williams but if we drafted him at #1 I for one would not be disappointed. This guy is going to be a probowl player, for sure, and an excellent addition to the defense. My only issue is he purely a 4-3 DT or can he play in the 3-4. I guess it depends how he is used in a 3-4 DL?
This is against the very core of my football sense of being...  
M.S. : 1/23/2020 6:31 am : link

...and against everything I believe the Giants must do in this Draft to pull themselves out of their own shit hole, but I am getting more and more tempted to draft wide receiver CeeDee Lamb out of Oklahoma at #4.
Why is everyone ignoring Derrick Brown?  
armstead98 : 1/23/2020 7:56 am : link
He's the best defender in the draft and a true dominant one. He would be our best defensive player since the Superbowl days.

We shouldn't delude ourselves, this is a rebuild so just because we have a few decent players like Hill, Tomlinson and Williams doesn't mean we should ignore the best player available.

Pair him with Lawrence and the Giants will have the best interior defensive line in the league.
Ruiz above Biadasz?  
RobCarpenter : 1/23/2020 8:07 am : link
That seems a bit odd to me.
Andrew Thomas at 25  
ATL_Giants : 1/23/2020 8:54 am : link
ouch
overall - this does not look like a great year to be relying on  
gidiefor : Mod : 1/23/2020 10:13 am : link
the draft -- makes signing Williams even more important imo
RE: overall - this does not look like a great year to be relying on  
SGMen : 1/23/2020 10:41 am : link
In comment 14790659 gidiefor said:
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the draft -- makes signing Williams even more important imo
Interesting take, though I believe we will pursue Williams with vigor. We have cap space.
RE: If DG can accomplish a trade down and get an  
HMunster : 1/23/2020 10:44 am : link
In comment 14790234 Earl the goat said:
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Additional first and second

My mock would look like this with Jeremiahs rankings

Becton LT
Jefferson WR
Ruiz C
Murray LB

Quite the haul


I like your thought process, but I thought there were only 2 teams that had extra 1st round picks plus a 2nd round pick to possibly trade - Miami and Jacksonville.

I don't know that Miami would give a 1st and a 2nd to move up one spot. So basically it's Jacksonville. More likely though is the Raiders giving up a 1st and a 3rd (they don't have a 2nd). Either way, trade down makes a ton of sense in this draft.
Someone will fall in love with Tua  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 1/23/2020 12:35 pm : link
can only be good for the Giants.
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Torrag : 1/24/2020 8:18 pm : link
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RE: If DG can accomplish a trade down and get an  
Pheonix Orion : 1/25/2020 7:54 am : link
In comment 14790234 Earl the goat said:
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Additional first and second

My mock would look like this with Jeremiahs rankings

Becton LT
Jefferson WR
Ruiz C
Murray LB

Quite the haul


That would be pretty sweet.
RE: Isaiah Simmons  
5BowlsSoon : 1/25/2020 6:32 pm : link
In comment 14790227 JohnB said:
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sounds like someone the Giants want on their team. He checks all the boxes.


Sy has concerns....thinks he might be a tweener....
RE: RE: If DG can accomplish a trade down and get an  
5BowlsSoon : 1/25/2020 6:34 pm : link
In comment 14793325 Pheonix Orion said:
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In comment 14790234 Earl the goat said:


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Additional first and second

My mock would look like this with Jeremiahs rankings

Becton LT
Jefferson WR
Ruiz C
Murray LB

Quite the haul



That would be pretty sweet.


I would love two firsts and two seconds, but is that a real possibility?
'would love two firsts and two seconds, is that a real possibility?'  
Torrag : 1/26/2020 4:55 pm : link
Probably not if we're staying in the Top 10 which is where I'd personally like to stick.
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