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Inside Joe Judge’s intricate plan to build Giants staff

Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/23/2020 8:46 am
NYP article by Paul Schwartz....


Inside Joe Judge’s intricate plan to build Giants staff in his image - ( New Window )
I like the vetting process  
SGMen : 1/23/2020 8:50 am : link
For coaches and everything else (LOL).
I love this.......  
George from PA : 1/23/2020 9:04 am : link
“I want to talk to players they’ve coached, I want to talk with coaches they’ve worked with, I want to talk to coaches they’ve gone against, I want to know what kind of multiples and problems they present for opponents,” Judge said.
I am 100% for all of this  
jvm52106 : 1/23/2020 9:05 am : link
and feel great about all of this BUT, ultimately this has to show on the field next season.
RE: I am 100% for all of this  
section125 : 1/23/2020 9:12 am : link
In comment 14790554 jvm52106 said:
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and feel great about all of this BUT, ultimately this has to show on the field next season.


Thanks Captain Obvious....
RE: RE: I am 100% for all of this  
Reale01 : 1/23/2020 9:19 am : link
In comment 14790559 section125 said:
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In comment 14790554 jvm52106 said:


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and feel great about all of this BUT, ultimately this has to show on the field next season.



Thanks Captain Obvious....


Winning is not as important as an interesting and optimistic offseason. The season is only 17 weeks. In the Giants case 6 weeks. The games are overrated.
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Bill2 : 1/23/2020 9:37 am : link
Impressive
I certainly like it - but isn't it funny that the vetting process  
jcn56 : 1/23/2020 9:42 am : link
that Judge is describing here is much lighter than what we heard the head coaching interview process was like?

Now that could well be because most of the vetting is done well in advance and for all candidates rather than just the new hire, but it's weird to hear the guy who was hired in a manner of hours is now conducting interviews both vertically and horizontally. Not a complaint mind you, I'm a fan of what he's doing.
The other side of this is getting players who will learn from good  
Ira : 1/23/2020 9:43 am : link
coaches and raise their games.
Color me impressed  
Mike in Prescott : 1/23/2020 9:58 am : link
Before he brings someone in for an interview, Judge said, “I’ve made at least 50 phone calls on the guy, even if it’s someone I know directly and had a working relationship with.”

This seems a Little Bill level of attention to detail. I just feel completely differently about this hire than any time I can remember.
The assistant coaches will be of far superior quality  
ij_reilly : 1/23/2020 10:13 am : link
than we have seen recently.

I'm sure there will be some "misses", but overall, the Giants coaching will be far superior to what we saw under McAdoo and Shurmur.

Judge will have his "rookie" mistakes and learning to do. It ain't going to be smooth sailing!

But finally I have some hope.

There's a chance, that maybe, just maybe, this HC hiring decision will prove to be the best decision the Giants have made in many years.

Coming into the 2019 season, I thought that with top notch coaching, the team could possibly go 8-8. The coaching sucked and the result was disastrous. The second factor was the OL, which was lousy. I thought the OL would be better than it proved to be.

The coaching has been addressed.

Now, go fix the fucking OL, finally.
Here is an interesting Draft note:  
YANKEE28 : 1/23/2020 10:21 am : link
note regarding the Draft:

Ian Rapoport Retweeted
Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero
One reason interviewing draft prospects at the
@SeniorBowl
is important this year: NFL teams were informed recently they’ll have 45 18-minute formal interviews at the combine, rather than 60 15-minute interviews. It’s related to schedule changes that move drills to primetime.

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I am Ninja : 1/23/2020 10:22 am : link
We wanted a leader, we got a leader.
RE: The other side of this is getting players who will learn from good  
MotownGIANTS : 1/23/2020 10:41 am : link
In comment 14790609 Ira said:
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coaches and raise their games.



I wonder will Baker be able be good at stuff other than Man to Man .... zone assignments
big question on the intricate plan?  
mdc1 : 1/23/2020 1:13 pm : link
what is different about what Joe Judge has done versus what has been done before? What is the overriding decision factor, metric, or data point used to build the staff and what level of increase will we see in production of football output from the team? Namely winning.

Listen I understand the commercials and the marketing, but what will be the result?
so what is the plan?  
mdc1 : 1/23/2020 1:23 pm : link
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'versus what has been done before?'  
Torrag : 1/23/2020 1:25 pm : link
The two big changes are the criteria and the timeline.

First the emphasis on teachers not presenters. That's an important distinction and critical for such a young team.

The other is taking his time. The last two hiring processes felt rushed by fear of losing 'their guy'. Well how do you know they're really your guy if you don't do a thorough vetting and interview process? It never made any sense to me and the crap staffs assembled my McAdoo and Murmur reflected it. It's a meme oft repeated by BBI open mouth breather contingent. You should never go into an interview with pre conceived notions of who should or will get any job.
Wow Judge is thorough  
cosmicj : 1/23/2020 5:58 pm : link
Very impressive.
But can you make a great peanut butter and jelly sandwich - the best  
Ira : 1/23/2020 6:16 pm : link
ever?
I’m impressed too, but...  
5BowlsSoon : 1/24/2020 9:13 am : link
You still need the results.

For example, Graham and Henderson I don’t believe have the results on their resume. Assuming they are good teachers, then why don’t they have good results? I guess the best answer to that question is, they just don’t have good enough players. So, it still all comes back to the quality of the players. I mean, you could teach up some guys who still just won’t be able to implement your teaching, right?

So, hypothetically, what do you do if your secondary is still not getting it and breaking down on their assignments like we had all of last year? Hire new coaches or find better players are usually the two choices.
as I pointed out constantly during Shumur's tenure  
JonC : 1/24/2020 9:27 am : link
it was painfully obvious the teaching was really poor, as well as the gameday management and adjustments. It reflects on the their depth of knowledge as well as poor teaching. This is why they were gone after two seasons, it was plain as day. Young players need to be taught how to become NFL professionals, how to prepare, how to be multiple on the field, etc.
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