PFF Sam Monson Eli

He has an agenda on Daniel Jones too. Guys like them have a decsion and will spin their tires no matter what facts are presented to them.

...why don't more guys do it in football?

Because it's HARD.

Eli Manning isn't necessarily an "all time great".

What he is, is a franchise quarterback who helped bring two championships to the Giants.

Isn't that basically what he was brought here for?

> stats.

I should clarify: Championships, as in plural w/ Eli.

I can never keep track.

In comment 14790902 Toth029 said:

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He has an agenda on Daniel Jones too. Guys like them have a decsion and will spin their tires no matter what facts are presented to them.

This clown is still trying to argue Jones isn’t good and Mayfield is a top 10 QB. He clearly won’t admit when he’s wrong.

I also find it ironic the “numbers guy” completely dismisses the enormous stats Eli has put up.

Is a clown. I don't know what qualifies him to be a credible Lead NFL Analyst. I highly doubt he's played a down of football in his life and his only experience in the field has come from PFF.

He is also a Giants hater.

argument is insane to me. Wouldn't Talent qualify as genetics and luck by that logic? The guy is a blowhard with an agenda and is best ignored.

and why does anyone care what he writes?

He just tweeted that the only thing separating Eli Manning from Vinny Testaverde is 2 Super Bowl wins.

Clownshow.

are nauseating sometimes. Evan Silva is the worst of them all. Earlier in the year he went on a sarcastic rip fest of Eli, so I tweeted at him "you're the worst". He blocked me for that. Thin skinned loser.

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are nauseating sometimes. Evan Silva is the worst of them all. Earlier in the year he went on a sarcastic rip fest of Eli, so I tweeted at him "you're the worst". He blocked me for that. Thin skinned loser.

I told him to stop spreading misinformation when he said Matt Rhule was only ever considering taking the Panthers job or going back to Baylor.

He blocked me.

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are nauseating sometimes. Evan Silva is the worst of them all. Earlier in the year he went on a sarcastic rip fest of Eli, so I tweeted at him "you're the worst". He blocked me for that. Thin skinned loser.

Silva’s even worse than this clown. Silva wrote in 2013 “ Tony Brady was a complete liability to the Pats offense and they need to move on”

This isn't baseball where an aging vet can hang-on as a bench player or relief pitcher to try to get the XXXth hit or strikeout. An NFL QB has to be good enough and durable enough to be the starter for an extended period of time to rack-up top 10 passing stats.

In comment 14790911 figgy2989 said:

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I can never keep track.

I'll never understand why some people seem to think that BBI is a single entity with a single opinion that changes from day to day, rather than thousands of individuals each with their own opinion.

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In comment 14790911 figgy2989 said: Quote: I can never keep track. I'll never understand why some people seem to think that BBI is a single entity with a single opinion that changes from day to day, rather than thousands of individuals each with their own opinion.

BBI doesn't understand that, either.

"Like if Nick Foles repeated 2017 the next season, then went back to being Nick Foles, is that a HoF career? Cos that's Eli Manning."

He also said this, which is something I've seen a lot of people spout out to justify Eli not being in the HoF and its just completely false.

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But it's also fair to question how many of those data points are QB driven vs the rest of the roster. Eli benefitted from some excellent defenses, which will help any win-related, playoff-appearance related data point.

Eli rarely ever benefited from *excellent* defenses. Outside of 2016, 2008, and most of 2007 - a lot of the defenses he played with were nothing to write home about. Certainly not *excellent.*

You'd expect the *Lead Analyst* of PFF to be better at analyzing.

In comment 14790920 Mike from Ohio said:

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and why does anyone care what he writes?

This.

happened, saying he shouldn't have gone until the 2nd or 3rd round, and now bends over backwards to discredit Jones on everything because he refuses to acknowledge how foolish his original take on the pick, was.

He'd fit right in on BBI.

and clicks, so - he wins?

Why get worked up over nonsense - he's clearly wrong, aside from injuries. Injuries are certainly very much a luck thing. The point you want to make there is Eli played through them when he did get hurt.

They expanded significantly after Collinsworth bought a majority stake and started pumping money into it. And seeing that a guy like McCarthy literally thanked Collinsworth and PFF at his Cowboys introductory press conference suggests it's only going to get larger influence in the years to come.

Is a bit of a joke now. Less and less people take him seriously. He seems to have the same odd agenda against DJ.

Drop the mike

That didn’t have a HOFer on their side of the ball.
Terry B? Please
Joe M? Please
John Elway? Shannon and Terrell
Jim P? Cliff B and Gene and Marcus
Roger S? Please
Bart Starr? Please
Bob G? Please
Troy Aikman? Please
Tom B? Gronk and Moss (didn’t win a SB w Moss)

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That didn’t have a HOFer on their side of the ball.

Bettis is a HoFer but really on his last legs when Ben won with him. Hines Ward has a good shot too.

@platon203

folks, this is exhibit A why when PFF talks about player ratings you should dismiss them.

Lead analyst?? LOL

In comment 14790930 TyreeHelmet said:

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In comment 14790923 aimrocky said: Quote: are nauseating sometimes. Evan Silva is the worst of them all. Earlier in the year he went on a sarcastic rip fest of Eli, so I tweeted at him "you're the worst". He blocked me for that. Thin skinned loser. Silva’s even worse than this clown. Silva wrote in 2013 “ Tony Brady was a complete liability to the Pats offense and they need to move on”

Silva blocked me because I asked him if he ever played a down of football in his life lol. Oh well fuck em.

insufferable.

superficial, ignorant takes.

Lives in Ireland. He should be at a pub analyzing soccer

In comment 14791715 SoZKillA said:

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Lives in Ireland. He should be at a pub analyzing soccer

That's another little thing about PFF that people don't know or overlook.

PFF started in the UK (and I believe is still based there). So for their initial years, the majority of their analysts were in the UK watching film and breaking down snap counts and formations.

When they began doing player ratings a couple years later, UK analysts made up the bulk of the graders. While breaking down snap counts and formations is a task anyone can do, to do grades would logically require knowledge of the game. Some of the analysts didn't follow American football. It is one of the reasons that when their ratings started becoming more prevalent (corresponding to when Collinsworth invested), they tried to add some authenticity by having former coaches and "football guys" act as tiebreakers or approval gates for the reviews.