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Simms and Eli

Essex : 1/24/2020 1:52 pm
I just love the fact that both of these franchise qbs, which let's be honest is the face of the franchise, would rather retire than play somewhere else. Now, I don't begrudge other teams guys for doing it (such as Montana), but it feels much more than a piece of laundry when a player refuses to wear another shirt. And over the last 50 years the three biggest Giants were probably LT, Eli, Phil, Strahan, and Carson and none of those guys took a snap in a uniform other than the Giants. I think it is something special.
The Three Biggest Giants...  
Jim in Tampa : 1/24/2020 1:55 pm : link
Are 5 guys?

(You list LT, Eli, Phil, Strahan, and Carson.)
Those 5  
VanillaVick : 1/24/2020 1:56 pm : link
Are my three favorites
Common core  
VanillaVick : 1/24/2020 1:56 pm : link
For the win!
I was really happy  
joeinpa : 1/24/2020 1:57 pm : link
Phil never played for another team. Totally understand why guys feel that way about Eli.

Simms was my Eli
Oops I meant five  
Essex : 1/24/2020 1:58 pm : link
Was going to say 3 (LT, Phil, and Eli) but then thought Strahan and Carson deserved to be in that group. Oh well
I remembered feeling distressed considering the fact Simms may go to  
GiantBlue : 1/24/2020 2:32 pm : link
Arizona or some other team that was courting him....but so happy he retired a Giant.

He has done everything to be objective about the Giants early in his broadcasting career, but now seems comfortable with his Giants legacy and acknowledging the memories.

There might have been some bitterness when he retired, but he (and Eli) are my two favorite QB's!

I was there when they retired his number and LT went down the field to catch one of his passes during the ceremony.

I thought I wouldn't get another favorite Giants QB in my lifetime.

Eli proved me wrong.

Let's hope DJ makes it a trifecta!
was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?  
Victor in CT : 1/24/2020 2:34 pm : link
..........
We had to wait 7 years between Simms and Collins...  
x meadowlander : 1/24/2020 2:37 pm : link
...Giant fans have had 20 years of solid QB play. Fingers crossed Jones is the real deal (I believe he is).

You look at what the Browns, Redskins, Jets and others have gone through - Giant fans are very fortunate to at least have that stability.
You say that  
NINEster : 1/24/2020 2:43 pm : link
it's cool that Eli/Simms didn't wear other jerseys, but in fairness to the others who were/are the face of their franchises (Montana, Peyton, Favre), those other guys had HoF caliber replacements at the ready.
RE: You say that  
x meadowlander : 1/24/2020 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14792607 NINEster said:
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it's cool that Eli/Simms didn't wear other jerseys, but in fairness to the others who were/are the face of their franchises (Montana, Peyton, Favre), those other guys had HoF caliber replacements at the ready.
The Giants believed they had that with Hostetler, and then with... Dave Brown. :(

They burned a first rounder with Brown. To this day, I have no idea how anyone thought he was NFL-caliber. Nightmares of him under pressure just unloading balls straight up that were easily picked.

As bad as 95, 96 were, definitely worse now.

Hopefully, all this works. I'm tired of Thanksgivings coming without a horse in the race.
I remember those days when I thought Danny Kanell was going to be  
GiantBlue : 1/24/2020 3:06 pm : link
the savior from Dave Brown/Kent Graham!

Alas...it wasn't until Kerry Collins that we had an NFL QB again!
RE: RE: You say that  
jnoble : 1/24/2020 3:35 pm : link
In comment 14792641 x meadowlander said:
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In comment 14792607 NINEster said:


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it's cool that Eli/Simms didn't wear other jerseys, but in fairness to the others who were/are the face of their franchises (Montana, Peyton, Favre), those other guys had HoF caliber replacements at the ready.

The Giants believed they had that with Hostetler, and then with... Dave Brown. :(

They burned a first rounder with Brown. To this day, I have no idea how anyone thought he was NFL-caliber. Nightmares of him under pressure just unloading balls straight up that were easily picked.

As bad as 95, 96 were, definitely worse now.

Hopefully, all this works. I'm tired of Thanksgivings coming without a horse in the race.


Bill B had an eye on Brown too and wanted to draft him if the Giants didn't when he was HC at Cleveland for whats its worth
RE: I remember those days when I thought Danny Kanell was going to be  
jnoble : 1/24/2020 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14792655 GiantBlue said:
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the savior from Dave Brown/Kent Graham!

Alas...it wasn't until Kerry Collins that we had an NFL QB again!


Kerry didn't have Eli's brain and better decision making but he had a much bigger arm and stronger delivery. Collins would flick his wrist and toss a frozen rope missile downfield like it was nothing
I grew up  
Crazed Dogs : 1/24/2020 5:34 pm : link
a Simms guy... after being critical of the pick. Burt, LT Carson and Banks became my fav players.

Denver Superbowl was awesome....hated Hostetler starting the Bills game but OJ carried the day.

I began watching the Giants when Tarkenton as the QB.

Low point was probably the fumble...

Parcells and beating SF in SF with Burt smacking Montana is one of my fav moments as a fan. As is Reasons and the 4th down hit against the Broncos and the fake punt run...

Eli in my mind though is the Giants all time best QB in my mind....solid and under rated. He beat the pat's twice as a big underdog. The win in the cold in GB always sticks out as does the day he took all the hits from the 49ers. A team player who led by example and a QB who would have had much better stats if it was not for the failure of the front office to field a competitive team. The Earnhardt offense fit him.. strong run with play action pass.

I never saw Tittle play... Simms is right there but Eli is the guy...we are lucky to have had them both..once a Giant always a Giant
RE: I grew up  
GeneInCal : 1/24/2020 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14792875 Crazed Dogs said:
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a Simms guy... after being critical of the pick. Burt, LT Carson and Banks became my fav players.

Denver Superbowl was awesome....hated Hostetler starting the Bills game but OJ carried the day.

I began watching the Giants when Tarkenton as the QB.

Low point was probably the fumble...

Parcells and beating SF in SF with Burt smacking Montana is one of my fav moments as a fan. As is Reasons and the 4th down hit against the Broncos and the fake punt run...

Eli in my mind though is the Giants all time best QB in my mind....solid and under rated. He beat the pat's twice as a big underdog. The win in the cold in GB always sticks out as does the day he took all the hits from the 49ers. A team player who led by example and a QB who would have had much better stats if it was not for the failure of the front office to field a competitive team. The Earnhardt offense fit him.. strong run with play action pass.

I never saw Tittle play... Simms is right there but Eli is the guy...we are lucky to have had them both..once a Giant always a Giant


Wrong SF game. It was Marshall that smoked Montana at SF. Burt smoked him in NY in 86. Burt almost put Hostettler out of the game with a cheap hit in the 91 SF NFC Championship game. He was on the Niners then
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