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Bret Bielema coaching position per Art Stapleton

Aaron Thomas : 1/24/2020 8:08 pm



Art Stapleton


Didn't see this earlier, but here is the title for Bielema.
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New #Giants asst coach Bret Bielema's title is OLB coach/senior assistant
So he's a senior assistant to the DC  
SGMen : 1/24/2020 8:12 pm : link
I hope he gets Carter, Ximines going as an OLB coach.
Specialization seems to be the order of the day for Joe Judge.  
Klaatu : 1/24/2020 8:38 pm : link
I wonder who he'll tap for ILB coach?
Well it  
YANKEE28 : 1/24/2020 8:49 pm : link
won't be George Edwards. He signed with the Cowboys earlier today.
RE: Specialization seems to be the order of the day for Joe Judge.  
Optimus-NY : 1/24/2020 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14793111 Klaatu said:
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I wonder who he'll tap for ILB coach?


Antonio Pierce would be nice.
Herm Edwards  
YANKEE28 : 1/24/2020 8:55 pm : link
recently promoted Pierce to Asst Head Coach, so very doubtful he is going anywhere.
Is him screwing around with Wiscy students true  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/24/2020 8:58 pm : link
Or BBI speak?
Bummer.  
Anakim : 1/24/2020 9:03 pm : link
I was hoping for Joey Porter. How cool would that be!?
RE: Herm Edwards  
Klaatu : 1/24/2020 9:04 pm : link
In comment 14793137 YANKEE28 said:
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recently promoted Pierce to Asst Head Coach, so very doubtful he is going anywhere.


It would be just like "Worm" Edwards to do that just to screw us.
RE: Specialization seems to be the order of the day for Joe Judge.  
Anakim : 1/24/2020 9:05 pm : link
In comment 14793111 Klaatu said:
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I wonder who he'll tap for ILB coach?


Rob Ryan. DUH!


Actually, he was the ILB coach for Washington.
Greg Manusky has experience coaching LBs...  
Anakim : 1/24/2020 9:12 pm : link
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RE: Greg Manusky has experience coaching LBs...  
Anakim : 1/24/2020 9:22 pm : link
In comment 14793160 Anakim said:
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"A self-described teacher more than coach, Manusky also believes in stripping instructions down to the fundamentals and asking his players, whether rookie Jonathan Allen or 11-year veteran Will Blackmon, to forget whatever schemes or verbiage they’ve mastered and start anew."
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Coached JJ Watt, Russell Wilson and Travis Frederick  
Vanzetti : 1/24/2020 10:13 pm : link
At Wisconsin
Have we signed a long snapper coach  
CT Charlie : 1/24/2020 11:53 pm : link
yet?
RE: Is him screwing around with Wiscy students true  
NYDCBlue : 1/25/2020 2:44 am : link
In comment 14793142 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Or BBI speak?


I know someone is going to come back with an angry retort about power dynamics and such, but personally.... I don't care. If we are talking college students, then they are above the age of consent, so it isn't illegal. Coaches can't coach from jail.... Beyond that, I don't care.
RE: Coached JJ Watt, Russell Wilson and Travis Frederick  
Jay in Toronto : 1/25/2020 5:47 am : link
In comment 14793215 Vanzetti said:
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At Wisconsin


Was DC under Alvarez then promoted. But the D (especially LBs) was more consistently elite when switched to a 3-4 under Aranda and continued under Wilcox and Leonhard (who would have been a great DC for Judge).
Probably wait until after signing day to announce  
Rflairr : 1/25/2020 6:33 am : link
Pierce :)
Have we signed  
XBRONX : 1/25/2020 7:21 am : link
a coach for the holder?
Great hire.  
Canton : 1/25/2020 7:23 am : link
Another stolen from the Patriots coaching tree.

Is there going to  
XBRONX : 1/25/2020 7:37 am : link
be a CB and Safety coach under Henderson?
RE: Is him screwing around with Wiscy students true  
Jon in NYC : 1/25/2020 7:48 am : link
In comment 14793142 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Or BBI speak?


It’s true.
Dont think  
XBRONX : 1/25/2020 8:29 am : link
the Giants OLB's are old enough to have teenage daugthers.
....  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/25/2020 8:31 am : link
I think this information is a great clue to the orientation of the defense.

Patrick Graham seems to hate the question, "Are you a 3-4 or 4-3 coach?" He responds, "Yes."

However, given Bret Bielema's coaching background and given that we are going to have a coach who exclusively handles outside linebackers, it strongly suggests to me we are still going to be mainly a 3-4 team. Why is this important? It means to be that Lorenzo Carter, Oshane Ximines, and potentially even Markus Golden still have a home here.
RE: Dont think  
Jay in Toronto : 1/25/2020 8:32 am : link
In comment 14793332 XBRONX said:
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the Giants OLB's are old enough to have teenage daugthers.


They may have young wives
Jay  
XBRONX : 1/25/2020 8:43 am : link
LMAO
RE: ....  
Jon in NYC : 1/25/2020 8:53 am : link
In comment 14793333 Eric from BBI said:
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I think this information is a great clue to the orientation of the defense.

Patrick Graham seems to hate the question, "Are you a 3-4 or 4-3 coach?" He responds, "Yes."

However, given Bret Bielema's coaching background and given that we are going to have a coach who exclusively handles outside linebackers, it strongly suggests to me we are still going to be mainly a 3-4 team. Why is this important? It means to be that Lorenzo Carter, Oshane Ximines, and potentially even Markus Golden still have a home here.


Maybe, but as a college coach and DC his teams only ever ran a 4-3.
RE: RE: ....  
Klaatu : 1/25/2020 8:56 am : link
In comment 14793346 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 14793333 Eric from BBI said:


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I think this information is a great clue to the orientation of the defense.

Patrick Graham seems to hate the question, "Are you a 3-4 or 4-3 coach?" He responds, "Yes."

However, given Bret Bielema's coaching background and given that we are going to have a coach who exclusively handles outside linebackers, it strongly suggests to me we are still going to be mainly a 3-4 team. Why is this important? It means to be that Lorenzo Carter, Oshane Ximines, and potentially even Markus Golden still have a home here.



Maybe, but as a college coach and DC his teams only ever ran a 4-3.


Plus, how often will we be is sub-packages, 4-2-5, and so forth?
Jon in NYC  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/25/2020 9:01 am : link
In a 3-4, your pass rushers are the outside linebackers. The "edge" rushers as they are called today.

If you are going to mainly run a 4-3, I don't see the need for separate outside and inside linebacker coaches. And Bilema's background includes defensive line.
Of course  
Joey in VA : 1/25/2020 9:49 am : link
It's 3-4 base, Graham is being purposely obtuse. Judge grew up under Saban, a 3-4 guys and Belichick, a 3-4 guy since he started coaching defense and we hire a 3-4 coach to coach OLBs. It's a 3-4 base, it always will be, don't let this blah blah blah fool you. There is a distinction in personnel, absolutely positively different roles for DE in a 3-4 than a 4-3 and you NEED a NT in a 3-4 and we have three guys who can do it. It's going to be a cover 2 shell basically, a bend but but don't break umbrella style that Belichick has used since the dawn of time.
Plus,  
fkap : 1/25/2020 10:10 am : link
DG and Mara hired a 3-4 philosophy 2 years ago, and have been accumulating players toward that end. They're likely to still believe in that philosophy rather than reversing course and starting all over again.
It is also easier to be a base 3-4 and switch to a 4-3 when needed  
robbieballs2003 : 1/25/2020 11:31 am : link
as opposed to a base 4-3 and switching to a 3-4 when needed.
RE: It is also easier to be a base 3-4 and switch to a 4-3 when needed  
Jay on the Island : 1/25/2020 4:06 pm : link
In comment 14793485 robbieballs2003 said:
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as opposed to a base 4-3 and switching to a 3-4 when needed.

Agreed, it is also easier to find 3-4 OLB’s than 4-3 DE’s. If the giants switched back to a 4-3 scheme Lorenzo Carter and Oshane Ximines would be poor fits. Also they would have a major logjam at DT and would force them to let Leonard Williams walk since they already have Lawrence, Tomlinson, Hill, and McIntosh battling for 2 spots.
New #Giants asst coach Bret Bielema's title is OLB coach/senior assist  
PatersonPlank : 1/25/2020 8:11 pm : link
and team party coordinator
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