Matthew Stafford Trade Rumors: Writer Hints at Huge Lions Move
Heavy "The Detroit Lions could have a big decision to make as it relates to what to do with Matthew Stafford, and that decision might not be that cut and dry according to some. As rumors have persisted, could the team move on from Stafford this offseason and look to deal him...."
This could make a big draft difference.
People here aren’t being realistic about Detroit’s approach to the draft. There’s close to 0% chance they’re seriously looking at QBs unless Stafford’s injury is retirement level shit.
Young was averaging close to 2 sacks a game before Michigan--who had one of the best o-lines in the country--decided to double and triple-team him on literally every single play (and then Wisconsin and Clemson copied that exact game plan).
Teams value pass rushers more than anything else besides QBs now and Chase Young is as good as they come, I don't know where this notion that "he's actually not that great" came from. We have long been saying he's in a class of his own in the 2020 draft, head and shoulders above any other prospect, and then all of a sudden he has 3 games without a sack and now it's like people think his stock is plummeting or something?
Think about it: he had 4 sacks and 5 TFL against that same Wisconsin team just a few weeks prior to the conf. championship... what do you think changed in the game he had 0 sacks? The game plan was designed to eliminate him and force the rest of Ohio St. to beat them, just as Michigan did.
I'd be shocked if he doesn't go the Skins at #2, unless they get a gigantic haul of an offer, and I don't see a team making that offer for Herbert nor Tua with his injury question marks. Burrow is one thing, Cinci is going to get some major offers, but I don't see the Skins getting those same types of massive offers (at least not one big enough to pass on Young).
Young was averaging close to 2 sacks a game before Michigan--who had one of the best o-lines in the country--decided to double and triple-team him on literally every single play (and then Wisconsin and Clemson copied that exact game plan).
Teams value pass rushers more than anything else besides QBs now and Chase Young is as good as they come, I don't know where this notion that "he's actually not that great" came from. We have long been saying he's in a class of his own in the 2020 draft, head and shoulders above any other prospect, and then all of a sudden he has 3 games without a sack and now it's like people think his stock is plummeting or something?
Think about it: he had 4 sacks and 5 TFL against that same Wisconsin team just a few weeks prior to the conf. championship... what do you think changed in the game he had 0 sacks? The game plan was designed to eliminate him and force the rest of Ohio St. to beat them, just as Michigan did.
I'd be shocked if he doesn't go the Skins at #2, unless they get a gigantic haul of an offer, and I don't see a team making that offer for Herbert nor Tua with his injury question marks. Burrow is one thing, Cinci is going to get some major offers, but I don't see the Skins getting those same types of massive offers (at least not one big enough to pass on Young).
I wouldnt call it zero but I wouldn't call it more than 20% either. Arguably 6 teams in top 12 want a QB. Do more than Burrow and Tua make the grade? Last year 4 guys were considered the best 2 went top 6 and the 3rd went 15th and the 4th second round. The year before 4 went top 10 but only 1 top 5. Could go either way. Tua has a ton of intangibles which is very important for the QB position but the medical flags. Herbert is too inconsistent for my liking but a ton of tools there and teams may think they can tailor a system to his strengths.
Perhaps the Giant's GM should take notes.
The draft will bring either an OT or a LB that will start day 1. The 2nd round pick could also be used at a position of need.
So do yourself a favor and look at the idea of adding 4 starters regardless of cost between FA and the first 2 round of the draft. Those positions are OLB/DE, LB, OT and C.
We all know those are the positions of need.
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First of all: with Tua's injury and Herbert being what he is as a prospect, I don't see this being a class of QBs that goes 1-2-3. Has that ever happened other than in 1999? I'm seriously asking because it sounds pretty unprecedented to me. I could maybe see them all going top 5, but not 1-2-3, and that's what we would need to get Chase Young.
Young was averaging close to 2 sacks a game before Michigan--who had one of the best o-lines in the country--decided to double and triple-team him on literally every single play (and then Wisconsin and Clemson copied that exact game plan).
Teams value pass rushers more than anything else besides QBs now and Chase Young is as good as they come, I don't know where this notion that "he's actually not that great" came from. We have long been saying he's in a class of his own in the 2020 draft, head and shoulders above any other prospect, and then all of a sudden he has 3 games without a sack and now it's like people think his stock is plummeting or something?
Think about it: he had 4 sacks and 5 TFL against that same Wisconsin team just a few weeks prior to the conf. championship... what do you think changed in the game he had 0 sacks? The game plan was designed to eliminate him and force the rest of Ohio St. to beat them, just as Michigan did.
I'd be shocked if he doesn't go the Skins at #2, unless they get a gigantic haul of an offer, and I don't see a team making that offer for Herbert nor Tua with his injury question marks. Burrow is one thing, Cinci is going to get some major offers, but I don't see the Skins getting those same types of massive offers (at least not one big enough to pass on Young).
I wouldnt call it zero but I wouldn't call it more than 20% either. Arguably 6 teams in top 12 want a QB. Do more than Burrow and Tua make the grade? Last year 4 guys were considered the best 2 went top 6 and the 3rd went 15th and the 4th second round. The year before 4 went top 10 but only 1 top 5. Could go either way. Tua has a ton of intangibles which is very important for the QB position but the medical flags. Herbert is too inconsistent for my liking but a ton of tools there and teams may think they can tailor a system to his strengths.
... But for the Giants to get Young, the QBs will have to get picked 1-2-3 (Burrow-Tua-Herbert) at the top of the draft. You're talking about "2 went top 6" in 2019 and "4 went top 10" in 2018, but these are far cries from a 1-2-3 QB draft. Again I don't know if we've ever seen that aside from 1999 draft (but I could be wrong). You're right I'm exaggerating when I say "zero chance" of course there's SOME chance out there, but between 20% (as you mentioned) and zero, I'd say the chances are closer to zero.
But you're right, technically the chances are non-zero... People have been talking about Tua as #1 overall pick for two years, so even with the injury I think SOME team is going to be convinced he's still "that" guy, and all it takes is one team to target him and trade up to #2. In that sense I think Tua has a better chance than Herbert of spurring a team to trade a haul and enough of one to deter the Skins from taking Young. But the thing is, even if that happens, then the LIONS will have Young fall right in their laps, and then we would ALSO need a team to trade enough of a haul for Herbert to deter the Lions from taking Young as well. So I think it's somewhat possible, but we're going to need a couple teams to fall completely in love with Tua and Herbert respectively to a point that they will EACH offer massive hauls that have to be worth more than Chase Young himself.