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NFT: Kobe Bryant Dies in Copter Crash

Young Elijah : 1/26/2020 2:30 pm
Just being reported via twitter.
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One of those days you pray and hope TMZ jumped the gun  
TommytheElephant : 1/26/2020 11:16 pm : link
Even when other news outlets reported it he news they were saying “as per tmz” and “reported that”

Pretty futile I was grasping at straws in hope against hope.

Rest In Peace to all those who perished.
RE: Anakim...  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 11:24 pm : link
In comment 14794830 bw in dc said:
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You and I have had good football discussion over the last few years. So I pose this as a friendly poster - Section 125 seems like a pretty good guy. I don't think his intentions were meant to be provocative or incendiary.


Section does seem like a good guy, but initially, that comment rubbed me the wrong way. However, I apologize to him if I misconstrued his post. Some people do express grief and shock in different manners and I should've considered that before jumping down his throat and reacting viscerally and rash. It's been a rough day and the last thing I want to do is be the morality police.

I apologize.
RE: Keaton...  
bLiTz 2k : 1/26/2020 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14794895 KDavies said:
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Yep, I’m an asshole. I don’t think rapists should be worshipped.


people lost their lives. its tragic regardless of what you feel about a celebrity..

and yes you are an asshole.
Anakim...  
bw in dc : 1/26/2020 11:35 pm : link
All good. It's been a very tough day indeed.



Interesting Giants side note  
BigBlue in Keys : 1/27/2020 12:20 am : link
Danny Jones says he picked #8 because of Kobe.

"On Friday, Jones was asked why he chose to wear No. 8 among the many numbers offered to him by the Giants.

“Old Kobe, I guess,” he replied"
Link - ( New Window )
Still cannot believe this  
Route 9 : 1/27/2020 12:57 am : link
Havent been into NBA for years but I loved the late 90s/early 2000s. Kobe. Shaq. Kids. Duncan. Jordan.


Iverson... lol.
Kidd  
Route 9 : 1/27/2020 12:57 am : link
...
I am shocked  
You'reMyBoyBlue!! : 1/27/2020 3:31 am : link
By how affected I was by this. Zero fan connection to Kobe in any way and yet I found myself crying multiple times today.

Life is effing crazy.
What a tragedy my heart is breaking for the  
JCin332 : 1/27/2020 6:20 am : link
grief his family and all the affected families must be going through...

I will keep them all in my thoughts and prayers...
RE: Keaton...  
Diver_Down : 1/27/2020 6:40 am : link
In comment 14794895 KDavies said:
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Yep, I’m an asshole. I don’t think rapists should be worshipped.


Just so that you are consistent, I presume you condemn our very own child rapist, LT.
Forget Basketball  
HMunster : 1/27/2020 6:51 am : link
Or anything else. None of that matters.

9 people were taken from this world way too early and that’s just an absolutely horrible tragedy.

RIP to all of them. Prayers for their families and loved ones.
RE: Forget Basketball  
Optimus-NY : 1/27/2020 7:54 am : link
In comment 14794999 HMunster said:
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Or anything else. None of that matters.

9 people were taken from this world way too early and that’s just an absolutely horrible tragedy.

RIP to all of them. Prayers for their families and loved ones.


Exactly. Amen.
two kids died. 2.... and forget kobe for a second.  
GMAN4LIFE : 1/27/2020 8:10 am : link
two parents, mom and dad died on that plane. The son i believe is a scout for the Sox. He is left with no parents and sister.

let that sink in when you make such shitty comments in a thread where people just are mourning 1 of the 9 people.
Has there been any comments  
Earl the goat : 1/27/2020 8:56 am : link
From Kobe’s parents Joe and Pam
I know they haven’t been on speaking terms
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/27/2020 9:05 am : link
Still unreal. It's going to take some time to accept this. Two 13 years old too...

Just heartbreaking.
RE: two kids died. 2.... and forget kobe for a second.  
Now Mike in MD : 1/27/2020 9:10 am : link
In comment 14795023 GMAN4LIFE said:
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two parents, mom and dad died on that plane. The son i believe is a scout for the Sox. He is left with no parents and sister.

let that sink in when you make such shitty comments in a thread where people just are mourning 1 of the 9 people.


Why? No one who knew these people are going to see anything said here nor will it have any impact on those who lost the loved ones yesterday. This is just an anonymous message board where people express opinions. Let's not give it more importance than reality dictates
RE: RE: two kids died. 2.... and forget kobe for a second.  
GMAN4LIFE : 1/27/2020 9:16 am : link
In comment 14795065 Now Mike in MD said:
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In comment 14795023 GMAN4LIFE said:


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two parents, mom and dad died on that plane. The son i believe is a scout for the Sox. He is left with no parents and sister.

let that sink in when you make such shitty comments in a thread where people just are mourning 1 of the 9 people.



Why? No one who knew these people are going to see anything said here nor will it have any impact on those who lost the loved ones yesterday. This is just an anonymous message board where people express opinions. Let's not give it more importance than reality dictates


wow
RE: ...  
Jints in Carolina : 1/27/2020 9:18 am : link
In comment 14795060 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Still unreal. It's going to take some time to accept this. Two 13 years old too...

Just heartbreaking.


Yeah man...this is really sad. Those poor families and what they are going through right now.
RE: I am shocked  
cjac : 1/27/2020 9:28 am : link
In comment 14794978 You'reMyBoyBlue!! said:
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By how affected I was by this. Zero fan connection to Kobe in any way and yet I found myself crying multiple times today.

Life is effing crazy.


Because of the kids, for me anyway.
RE: Has there been any comments  
bw in dc : 1/27/2020 9:55 am : link
In comment 14795049 Earl the goat said:
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From Kobe’s parents Joe and Pam
I know they haven’t been on speaking terms


I didn’t know that. That would add another layer of sadness to this.

RE: ...  
Kyle in NY : 1/27/2020 9:56 am : link
In comment 14795060 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Still unreal. It's going to take some time to accept this. Two 13 years old too...

Just heartbreaking.


Hands down, yesterday was the saddest, most shocking day in sports I think I've ever experienced.

Kobe was a larger than life figure. He seemed invincible, this almost doesn't seem possible. You figured we'd be hearing his thoughts on the game for 40 more years

I loved watching his career. He was MJ for a younger generation of players and fans. His post-playing career was fascinating and inspiring, the work he was doing coaching youth basketball and teaching his daughter. It's hard to fathom, it's surreal. 9 lives lost, it's incredibly sad. Damnit
Just a bummer of a day!  
Carson53 : 1/27/2020 11:36 am : link
I have to be honest, I wouldn't call myself a fan of his,
but he was such a great competitor, similar to a Jordan
in that respect. As A Celts fan, watched some great battles. I saw how Doc had trouble speaking yesterday,
and I was moved by that too. I feel for Kobe's young family as well, RIP Kobe and his daughter.
Here are the nine people who died:  
Anakim : 1/27/2020 11:43 am : link
Apparently  
Carson53 : 1/27/2020 11:46 am : link
the guy in the left corner of the photo was a baseball coach in Mass. I heard it on the news here locally.
First it was reported, there were five people, then nine.
Just a sad day!
Three children  
Kyle in NY : 1/27/2020 11:55 am : link
on their way to a basketball game. There are no words for that...
Seeing the faces of those people...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/27/2020 12:14 pm : link
Man. Such a tragedy.
Kyle, yesterday was definitely a  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/27/2020 12:17 pm : link
'Where were you when JFK was shot?' sports event.

I never was a huge fan of his, but I respected his abilities, the time he put into his craft, & his competitiveness.

And he admitted at first he sort of tuned out of basketball post retirement, but that his 13 year old helped bring his love back.
RE: Kyle, yesterday was definitely a  
Kyle in NY : 1/27/2020 12:44 pm : link
In comment 14795323 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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'Where were you when JFK was shot?' sports event.

I never was a huge fan of his, but I respected his abilities, the time he put into his craft, & his competitiveness.

And he admitted at first he sort of tuned out of basketball post retirement, but that his 13 year old helped bring his love back.


Yeah I was a huge fan, I'm 28 so he was a big part of my childhood. You never feel quite the same about your favorite athletes as you do when you're a kid growing up. So yesterday was definitely a punch to the gut thinking back on childhood and the fun times had watching Kobe.

But as you said, you didn't need to be a Kobe/Lakers fan to appreciate and respect him as a player. The dedication he put into basketball and all of his ventures in retirement was really great. He was a bit of a throwback athlete in that way, with that competitive spirit, win at all costs.

Definitely a "where were you when" kind of moment. And to think about his daughter being with him, along with seven others that have heartbroken families and friends mourning them today, it's difficult to even fathom. Such a tragedy. Life is short
It's..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/27/2020 1:01 pm : link
pretty damn difficult to replicate the JFK thing. My parents remember it because they were at school and everything stopped and teachers were crying and a nation mourned.

I think it also depends on how you heard the news. I just got back from the grocery store and my wife told me what the news said. I probably won't remember that 5 years from now. I only remember a few notable deaths anyway, either because of the age i was or the location. For Thurman Munson, WPIX broke in with a special report. I was on the floor in the living room. For the Challenger, I was in a classroom watching live when it happened. When Michael Jackson died, my wife and I were in Munich and it came on the German news. When Whitney Houston died, I was in Hong Kong and an Irish Pub had it on the TV. When Robin Williams died, I was in Fargo, ND at a restaurant where the place gasped when it was announced.

Being at home and not hearing the news first hand, this will likely fade from memory.
Yeah by no means  
Kyle in NY : 1/27/2020 1:09 pm : link
am I comparing it to a President being assassinated. But I think you'd be hard pressed to find a more shocking sports related moment than this one. Before my time, but I imagine this is on a level similar to Thurman Munson. My dad still references that shock level.
And I digress..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/27/2020 1:14 pm : link
but I vividly remember the Challenger explosion and when it happened, some people thought it was a planned thing, like losing a booster engine, but I looked at my teacher, and she knew what had happened and started to panic on how to react. Whether she should shut off the TV or let it play out.

When she turned to the assistant and started whispering, I knew what had happened.
My wife and I were dating when Princess Diana died  
jcn56 : 1/27/2020 1:20 pm : link
she lived in Brooklyn and I was in Queens, she was heading home from our date that night and I was walking back from the grocery store when a neighbor grabbed me, sobbing, and told me that Diana had died.

I don't think she was impressed with my reaction either. Not that I didn't feel bad for her or had anything against her, but I had zero connection. Mildly surprised was about where I'd put my grief level.
RE: Yeah by no means  
Carson53 : 1/27/2020 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14795384 Kyle in NY said:
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am I comparing it to a President being assassinated. But I think you'd be hard pressed to find a more shocking sports related moment than this one. Before my time, but I imagine this is on a level similar to Thurman Munson. My dad still references that shock level.
.

For me personally, Thurman is the worst as it relates to
a sports related death. I have cried a few times over the
years, especially the ten year anniversary of his death.
As I have said before, my favorite Yankee player of all time, that will never change!
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/27/2020 1:28 pm : link
Definitely didn't mean to compare it to JFK obviously, but I will remember where I was when I heard yesterday. Just a 'WTF? Really? No, that's gotta be wrong' moment for me as a sports fan.
So tragic  
crackerjack465 : 1/27/2020 1:30 pm : link
Especially with three children involved. Those poor families. I can't imagine what Vanessa Bryant and the families of the other victims have gone through.

I read through a lot of this thread and it's surprising the varying opinions on this.

Kobe wasn't a perfect person, nobody is. But, he still did a lot of good in this world and inspired a lot of people, whether he inspired you or not. If we decided not to mourn people with imperfections or who have made poor choices in their life, I don't think we would have anyone left to mourn.
RE: ...  
mfsd : 1/27/2020 2:01 pm : link
In comment 14795431 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Definitely didn't mean to compare it to JFK obviously, but I will remember where I was when I heard yesterday. Just a 'WTF? Really? No, that's gotta be wrong' moment for me as a sports fan.


Yup you’re spot on. I was never a huge Kobe fan - didnt dislike him, just didn’t root for him. But I think “larger than life” is an apt description.

I lived in SoCal from 2000-2005, during a big part of the Kobe/Shaq/Jax Lakers era, and the obsession with the Lakers in LA was a whole another level. Laker games, referred to as the “Lake Show” (pretty silly IMO), were an event. Most people I knew out there planned their weeks around watching Laker games during basketball season.

Admittedly, made me hate the Lakers, same way people grew to hate the Yankees, or the Pats of the last 20 years. But also makes me understand the emotions and magnitude of yesterday’s tragedy, and what Kobe meant to so many people. He was a real life superhero to many people.

It would be the equivalent of this happening to Jeter, or Eli, for me as a Yankees/Giants fan. And you’re 100% right, it will always be one of those things where you remember where/how you heard the news.

I also think it’s fair, when contemplating the sum total of his life, to at least reference the Colorado accusation and it’s aftermath. But not on this thread and not yet, IMHO

9 people died tragically, including some kids, that’s the story for now, and it’s an awful one.
Side thing about the JFK assassination ...  
Beezer : 1/27/2020 2:06 pm : link
I wasn't born yet, but my Dad ha started his TV engineering career. I remember his take on that day: "It was great television."

Surreal stuff, this loss.  
Beezer : 1/27/2020 2:10 pm : link
I place it alongside Munson's death. I wasn't a Yankees fan but a close friend was (and since I was a huge baseball fan, I knew what a huge deal this was) - his parents planned their evenings around WPIX telecasts. They were all in. I remember walking into their living room and seeing them staring at the TV.
While tragic and sad for me it is far from highest level of impact  
steve in ky : 1/27/2020 2:21 pm : link
9/11 is head and shoulders above anything else, nothing even remotely close to it. That really shook me.

Challenger still stands out in my mind vividly. I can replay it all in my mind.

And while I was probably too young to feel real grief over, the Robert Kennedy and MLK assassinations were events I knew were enormous and historical that would impact the country.

And while I was even younger the JFK assassination still stand out in my mind to this day, probably even more than with Robert Kennedy and MLK. I can remember watching the funeral procession and events for what felt like days. Of course there wasn't cable and there weren't too many channels and they all seemed to be covering it. But it was just different than anything else and even though I was young it was our president and I could tell everyone was mourning.

For myself, I would put Kobe dying unexpectedly on par with the same level of shock of JFK JR's plane going down.
....  
Route 9 : 1/27/2020 4:58 pm : link
This is big. I'll remember where I was when I heard about Kobe Bryant and his daughter's death until the day I die. I remember where I was for Cory Lidle, as well.

I remember Heath Ledger, Michael Jackson, 9/11, Chris Benoit's interesting story and the day Harambe was killed.
RE: RE: ...  
Route 9 : 1/27/2020 5:00 pm : link
mfsd said:
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In comment 14795431 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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I lived in SoCal from 2000-2005, during a big part of the Kobe/Shaq/Jax Lakers era, and the obsession with the Lakers in LA was a whole another level. Laker games, referred to as the “Lake Show” (pretty silly IMO), were an event. Most people I knew out there planned their weeks around watching Laker games during basketball season.



2000-2005 were my salad years, loved them. This is when there was a point to watching the NBA.
This is incredibly tragic.  
Del Shofner : 1/27/2020 5:06 pm : link
Families and friendships shattered.

Reading various news accounts now that more details are coming out - it's very unfortunate that whoever was making the decision chose to proceed with the flight. It was so foggy that the LAPD actually grounded their entire helicopter fleet, and the Kobe copter had to fly under special protocols with the assistance of ground control. Maybe when they took off, they didn't know what they were going to fly into - I'm sure that will come out from the NTSB.

Just unimaginably terrible in any event.
RE: ....  
Diver_Down : 1/27/2020 5:12 pm : link
In comment 14795767 Route 9 said:
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This is big. I'll remember where I was when I heard about Kobe Bryant and his daughter's death until the day I die. I remember where I was for Cory Lidle, as well.

I remember Heath Ledger, Michael Jackson, 9/11, Chris Benoit's interesting story and the day Harambe was killed.


What was the weather like when Harambe was killed?
RE: This is incredibly tragic.  
PhiPsi125 : 1/27/2020 5:37 pm : link
In comment 14795772 Del Shofner said:
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Families and friendships shattered.

Reading various news accounts now that more details are coming out - it's very unfortunate that whoever was making the decision chose to proceed with the flight. It was so foggy that the LAPD actually grounded their entire helicopter fleet, and the Kobe copter had to fly under special protocols with the assistance of ground control. Maybe when they took off, they didn't know what they were going to fly into - I'm sure that will come out from the NTSB.

Just unimaginably terrible in any event.


Unfortunate that these deaths probably resulted from poor decision making. They had no business flying that day. Just unnecessary.
a perspective of what Kobe means to ROW  
ColHowPepper : 1/27/2020 5:58 pm : link
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1221829317946236930
RE: a perspective of what Kobe means to ROW  
Del Shofner : 1/27/2020 8:11 pm : link
In comment 14795817 ColHowPepper said:
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https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1221829317946236930


That is something.
Still doesn’t feel real  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/27/2020 8:29 pm : link
As someone who was never a huge Kobe fan, this still hurts so much.

In terms of global popularity he is Top 3 all time and probably 2nd. His impact in the Asian market is just ridiculous. There’s an argument to be made he’s more popular than Jordan in Asia. And Kobe’s European background and ability to speak multiple languages always made him a popular player among Europeans. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Kobe had more jerseys in South America than any other NBA player.

He was clearly an iconic athlete. But it was hard to understand how vast his imprint went until this tragedy. I learned of this news from my sister who isn’t a sports fan. She texted me “Did you hear about Kobe” around 3pm yesterday. Anytime you read/hear a question like that, you think the worst. My mother was talking to me about it. As I walked out of Penn Station this morning, I watched dozens of people of all types take pictures of Kobe’s memorial ad in front of the station in NYC aka the other side of the country from where Kobe made his name. And at work, people who I know don’t give a shit about sports were talking to me about this.

There was a tribute to him by the players and fans at the Pro Bowl. There was Tiger Woods in golf talking about Kobe. There was Kyrgios in tennis paying tribute to Kobe by wearing his #8 jersey before his AO match last night with Nadal. There was Neymar in soccer throwing up the 2-4 after he scored a goal. There was every NBA team taking an initial 24 sec violation in honor of him. There was fucking Obama and Trump commenting and paying respect on Twitter.

The word transcendent gets thrown around a lot. But as sad as it fucking is, we found out how transcendent this man was. Despite all his faults, his imprint will be lasting and never forgotten. Legend.
RE: This is incredibly tragic.  
nygiants16 : 1/27/2020 8:36 pm : link
In comment 14795772 Del Shofner said:
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Families and friendships shattered.

Reading various news accounts now that more details are coming out - it's very unfortunate that whoever was making the decision chose to proceed with the flight. It was so foggy that the LAPD actually grounded their entire helicopter fleet, and the Kobe copter had to fly under special protocols with the assistance of ground control. Maybe when they took off, they didn't know what they were going to fly into - I'm sure that will come out from the NTSB.

Just unimaginably terrible in any event.


My guess is the pilot thight they could fly low until they got to the hills and thought the fog would of lifted by the time they got there..

When they got there he tried to go up but lost track or where he was and by the time he decided to try and turn back they were surrounded by hills and he got confused on which way was up and which way was down...
Lakers doing anything?  
Route 9 : 1/28/2020 10:17 pm : link
...
Route9  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/28/2020 11:11 pm : link
Lakers play next vs. Blazers @ home on Friday.

I'm sure they'll do something.
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