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NFT: Kobe Bryant Dies in Copter Crash

Young Elijah : 1/26/2020 2:30 pm
Just being reported via twitter.
Now that would  
section125 : 1/26/2020 2:31 pm : link
absolutely suck...
Shit  
Young Elijah : 1/26/2020 2:32 pm : link
.
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TMZ is reporting it  
Danny Kanell : 1/26/2020 2:33 pm : link
Holy shit
My dear Lord  
joeinpa : 1/26/2020 2:33 pm : link
I hope that s not true
This is horrible  
Ron from Ninerland : 1/26/2020 2:34 pm : link
but I've found a link that verifies it
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That's shitty  
Joey in VA : 1/26/2020 2:34 pm : link
He was still inspiring athletes and mentoring young ones on how to handle fame, how to work, be a pro, etc. His post NBA work was I admired the most, he seemed to genuinely care about young athletes and helping them along
RE: TMZ is reporting it  
Jim in Tampa : 1/26/2020 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14794338 Danny Kanell said:
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Holy shit

Here's the TMZ link.

TMZ - ( New Window )
Absolutely  
AcidTest : 1/26/2020 2:37 pm : link
awful. Wow. RIP to one of the greatest players in the game. Prayers to his family and friends.
Awful  
MookGiants : 1/26/2020 2:37 pm : link
absolutely awful.

RIP
TMZ  
djstat : 1/26/2020 2:38 pm : link
Website has now crashed. Bad choice of words
Nothing on ESPN  
Belowtheshadows : 1/26/2020 2:39 pm : link
I'm not believing it until ESPN reports it.
Really hope that’s not true  
illmatic : 1/26/2020 2:39 pm : link
Way too young and he has a lot he can still give to younger people.
Bullshit  
steviej : 1/26/2020 2:40 pm : link
Nobody reporting it
We will know for sure soon  
Sammo85 : 1/26/2020 2:41 pm : link
But weird how’s there’s not much about it on the LA scanners.

I’d wait for more authoritative sources. TMZ has jumped a bit on false deaths in the past.
here's a link  
slackerracker : 1/26/2020 2:43 pm : link
to la county sheriffs making a note of a helicopter crash in that area, not saying anything else besides 5 dead no survivor.
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NBC reports a helicopter  
johnnyb : 1/26/2020 2:43 pm : link
crash but not reporting Kobe as a passenger
Glazer  
ryanmkeane : 1/26/2020 2:46 pm : link
reporting it is true
RE: Nothing on ESPN  
ZogZerg : 1/26/2020 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14794347 Belowtheshadows said:
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I'm not believing it until ESPN reports it.


TMZ is much more reliable then ESPN.
If TMZ reports it, it's true.
TMZ is not down  
montanagiant : 1/26/2020 2:47 pm : link
They just updated the info about the crash to include the info that all 5 onboard died.

The link below takes you to their homepage which is featuring this as its top story
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nothing reported on major news sights  
gtt350 : 1/26/2020 2:48 pm : link
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RE: We will know for sure soon  
RobCarpenter : 1/26/2020 2:48 pm : link
In comment 14794351 Sammo85 said:
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But weird how’s there’s not much about it on the LA scanners.

I’d wait for more authoritative sources. TMZ has jumped a bit on false deaths in the past.


I can’t remember TMZ being wrong about celebrity deaths before.

RIP
This is crazy  
illmatic : 1/26/2020 2:48 pm : link
Have we ever seen someone who was one of the best players ever in their sport and super popular die in a tragic accident at such a young age? I’m trying to think of something similar but I just can’t.
shocking  
Danny L : 1/26/2020 2:48 pm : link
im stunned
Absolutely horrible  
dune69 : 1/26/2020 2:48 pm : link
RIP Kobe
.  
OBJRoyal : 1/26/2020 2:48 pm : link
All over twitter with other athletes posting RIPs
RE: This is crazy  
gtt350 : 1/26/2020 2:49 pm : link
In comment 14794367 illmatic said:
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Have we ever seen someone who was one of the best players ever in their sport and super popular die in a tragic accident at such a young age? I’m trying to think of something similar but I just can’t.


um Len Bias
I wish  
steviej : 1/26/2020 2:49 pm : link
It was bullshit
NBA tweeted  
johnnyb : 1/26/2020 2:49 pm : link
the rumors are true.

Kobe Bryant was indeed a passenger and he perished in the crash.
Confirmed by officials to multiple media outlets in L.A.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/26/2020 2:49 pm : link
It's true.
Let’s skip to 2021  
bubba0825 : 1/26/2020 2:50 pm : link
2020 has been a shit year so far
No conformation from any other news service  
Ron from Ninerland : 1/26/2020 2:50 pm : link
NBC is reporting a helicopter crashed in Calabasas and they are still putting out the fire. They are not reporting who's on board. Meanwhile TMZ.com has crashed ( no pun intended )
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bubba0825 : 1/26/2020 2:51 pm : link
In comment 14794372 gtt350 said:
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Have we ever seen someone who was one of the best players ever in their sport and super popular die in a tragic accident at such a young age? I’m trying to think of something similar but I just can’t.



um Len Bias


Roberto Clemente
Sounds like it was his Helicopter  
ZogZerg : 1/26/2020 2:51 pm : link
and he traveled all the time via helicopter.
RE: NBA tweeted  
halfback20 : 1/26/2020 2:52 pm : link
In comment 14794374 johnnyb said:
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the rumors are true.

Kobe Bryant was indeed a passenger and he perished in the crash.


I dont see any tweets from the NBA account about it

And TMZs site is working for me.
Absolutely  
Mr. Bungle : 1/26/2020 2:52 pm : link
awful.
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illmatic : 1/26/2020 2:52 pm : link
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Have we ever seen someone who was one of the best players ever in their sport and super popular die in a tragic accident at such a young age? I’m trying to think of something similar but I just can’t.



um Len Bias



Roberto Clemente


Clemente might be the closest thing to it. Bias I’d disagree with since his NBA career hadn’t even really started.
Twitter is on fire about it  
WideRight : 1/26/2020 2:53 pm : link

No one there is asking for confirmation....
RE: This is crazy  
micky : 1/26/2020 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14794367 illmatic said:
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Have we ever seen someone who was one of the best players ever in their sport and super popular die in a tragic accident at such a young age? I’m trying to think of something similar but I just can’t.


Thurman munson
variety confirms  
giantfan2000 : 1/26/2020 2:53 pm : link
Kobe Bryant, the Los Angeles Lakers superstar and future NBA Hall of Famer, died on Sunday in a helicopter crash. He was 41.
Officials confirm to Variety that Bryant was a passenger on board a helicopter that crashed in the Los Angeles County suburb of Calabasas.
TMZ first reported the news.
A five-time NBA champion with the Lakers, Bryant was considered one of the greatest basketball players of all-time.
He is survived by his wife, Vanessa, and four daughters – Gianna, Natalia and Bianca and Capri.
Story developing…
Kobe Bryant Dies in Helicopter Crash - ( New Window )
Woj  
ryanmkeane : 1/26/2020 2:53 pm : link
just confirmed it. Ugh. He's gone
Yup.  
guitarguybs12 : 1/26/2020 2:53 pm : link
Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
Kobe Bryant is among those dead in a helicopter crash outside Los Angeles, a source confirms to ESPN.
Still nothing...  
bw in dc : 1/26/2020 2:54 pm : link
from ESPN or NBATV.
Payne Stewart  
WideRight : 1/26/2020 2:54 pm : link

.
Jesus that's sad.  
Motley Two : 1/26/2020 2:55 pm : link
Way too young.
ESPN...  
bw in dc : 1/26/2020 2:56 pm : link
and it's obsession with the Pro Bowl continues...
RE: No conformation from any other news service  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 1/26/2020 2:56 pm : link
In comment 14794378 Ron from Ninerland said:
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NBC is reporting a helicopter crashed in Calabasas and they are still putting out the fire. They are not reporting who's on board. Meanwhile TMZ.com has crashed ( no pun intended )

TMZ seems to be getting hammered, but did eventually see the article.
Yahoo sports has confirmed  
ZogZerg : 1/26/2020 2:57 pm : link
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Absolutely sickening.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 2:57 pm : link
One of my favorite athletes ever.

And NBA TV is showing games from last night with nothing even on the bottom of the screen. Disgraceful.
RE: This is crazy  
81_Great_Dane : 1/26/2020 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14794367 illmatic said:
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Have we ever seen someone who was one of the best players ever in their sport and super popular die in a tragic accident at such a young age? I’m trying to think of something similar but I just can’t.

Ed Delahanty's death in 1903 is the closest thing I can think of. Very popular ballplayer, HOFer. 35 when he died. Details on his Wikipedia page.

Lyman Bostock looked like he was on the way to a HOF career when he was shot. Not a greatest-ever, not an accident. Troy Archer and others have died in accidents but not players or ex-players at Kobe's level

Great players have died of natural causes, like Lou Gehrig, etc. Not accidents.

I think this is unique. Anyone?

RE: ESPN...  
OBJRoyal : 1/26/2020 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14794396 bw in dc said:
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and it's obsession with the Pro Bowl continues...


People still watch ESPN??
His death is on Wikipedia already  
Vanzetti : 1/26/2020 2:58 pm : link
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RE: RE: This is crazy  
Jints in Carolina : 1/26/2020 2:58 pm : link
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Have we ever seen someone who was one of the best players ever in their sport and super popular die in a tragic accident at such a young age? I’m trying to think of something similar but I just can’t.



Thurman munson


roberto clemente
Wow. Shocked.  
Route 9 : 1/26/2020 2:59 pm : link
....
Terrible news  
Steve in ATL : 1/26/2020 3:01 pm : link
The timing is so strange with this happening after Lebron passed him in all time scoring last night.
RE: Absolutely sickening.  
JB_in_DC : 1/26/2020 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14794401 Dave in Hoboken said:
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One of my favorite athletes ever.

And NBA TV is showing games from last night with nothing even on the bottom of the screen. Disgraceful.


Probably just waiting for confirmation - can't screw this up.
RE: RE: Absolutely sickening.  
section125 : 1/26/2020 3:03 pm : link
In comment 14794410 JB_in_DC said:
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One of my favorite athletes ever.

And NBA TV is showing games from last night with nothing even on the bottom of the screen. Disgraceful.



Probably just waiting for confirmation - can't screw this up.


Yeah they cannot report until confirmed, cannot CNN it.
Reputable news sources will wait....  
MOOPS : 1/26/2020 3:03 pm : link
until next of kin are notified.
ESPN has now called it...  
bw in dc : 1/26/2020 3:03 pm : link
...
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greek13 : 1/26/2020 3:06 pm : link
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Have we ever seen someone who was one of the best players ever in their sport and super popular die in a tragic accident at such a young age? I’m trying to think of something similar but I just can’t.



um Len Bias



Roberto Clemente


Rocky Marciano
ESPN  
bubba0825 : 1/26/2020 3:08 pm : link
Cut from the pro bowl.
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Mike in NY : 1/26/2020 3:08 pm : link
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Have we ever seen someone who was one of the best players ever in their sport and super popular die in a tragic accident at such a young age? I’m trying to think of something similar but I just can’t.



um Len Bias



Roberto Clemente



Rocky Marciano


Cory Lidle
ABC News just said the other 4 people on board  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 3:08 pm : link
were his daughters.

OMG.
CNN just confirmed  
D-Rod : 1/26/2020 3:09 pm : link
Sad
Just passed this info  
section125 : 1/26/2020 3:09 pm : link
on CBS Farmers Open PGA - Jim Nantz and Nick Faldo...
Tomorrow  
Rolyrock : 1/26/2020 3:09 pm : link
Ain't guaranteed. No matter who you are.
Remember when Daniel Jones said why he picked #8?  
Blue21 : 1/26/2020 3:09 pm : link
"Young Kolbe" he said.
RE: ABC News just said the other 4 people on board  
section125 : 1/26/2020 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14794422 Dave in Hoboken said:
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were his daughters.

OMG.


Nooo..now that is brutal.
Closest player I ever saw...  
bw in dc : 1/26/2020 3:11 pm : link
to Michael Jordan.

Horrific tragedy.
RE: ABC News just said the other 4 people on board  
markky : 1/26/2020 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14794422 Dave in Hoboken said:
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were his daughters.

OMG.


Oh no. That’s so sad.
RE: ABC News just said the other 4 people on board  
JB_in_DC : 1/26/2020 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14794422 Dave in Hoboken said:
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were his daughters.

OMG.


Yeah I thought I might've misheard that. Can't find corroboration. horrific if true
RE: RE: ABC News just said the other 4 people on board  
bw in dc : 1/26/2020 3:13 pm : link
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were his daughters.

OMG.



Oh no. That’s so sad.


I hope that's not true...JHC.
Sounded like that's what the guy on ESPN said  
Motley Two : 1/26/2020 3:13 pm : link
But then they went back to the pro bowl and the guy mentioned prayers for his wife and daughters?
Terrible news...just terrible.  
Klaatu : 1/26/2020 3:14 pm : link
.....
I'm sick..  
bLiTz 2k : 1/26/2020 3:14 pm : link
this is absolutely awful
WTF?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/26/2020 3:14 pm : link
Holy Shit. I am stunned.
RE: RE: This is crazy  
Matt M. : 1/26/2020 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14794372 gtt350 said:
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Have we ever seen someone who was one of the best players ever in their sport and super popular die in a tragic accident at such a young age? I’m trying to think of something similar but I just can’t.



um Len Bias
Clemente. Munson.
CBS News said his daughters were on board, too.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 3:15 pm : link
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Was Kobe the pilot of copter?  
Rick in Dallas : 1/26/2020 3:16 pm : link
So sad if the other 4 people are his daughters. What a tragedy
Holy shit  
Mark from Jersey : 1/26/2020 3:16 pm : link
totally in shock
RE: Was Kobe the pilot of copter?  
nygiants16 : 1/26/2020 3:17 pm : link
In comment 14794445 Rick in Dallas said:
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So sad if the other 4 people are his daughters. What a tragedy


If it was his private helicopter he was more than likely the pilot
God help his wife if true  
Sammo85 : 1/26/2020 3:18 pm : link
I really hope his daughters weren’t on board.

Shocking and sad and reminder of fragility of life one hour to the next and days on and on.
Wow, very sad.  
Pete in MD : 1/26/2020 3:18 pm : link
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RE: Was Kobe the pilot of copter?  
robbieballs2003 : 1/26/2020 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14794445 Rick in Dallas said:
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So sad if the other 4 people are his daughters. What a tragedy


I have heard 5 people dead. Kobe was traveling with 3 others. That does make sense that it could be his daughters as he just had a baby girl in 2019 so that 4th girl probably was with her mother. Unreal.
Please tell me he wasn’t with  
cjac : 1/26/2020 3:20 pm : link
His kids
Reportsontwitter  
KDubbs : 1/26/2020 3:20 pm : link
Rick fox also on board. Take with a grain of salt
RE: Please tell me he wasn’t with  
Giantophile : 1/26/2020 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14794452 cjac said:
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His kids


So sad. News report I read said his wife and kids were NOT on board.
This is unreal  
Rflairr : 1/26/2020 3:21 pm : link
.
,  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 3:22 pm : link
BREAKING: Kobe Bryant's four daughters were reportedly among those killed in the helicopter crash.(Source: ABC News)
Heartbreaking  
charlito : 1/26/2020 3:22 pm : link
My favorite players gone at 41 😞. We are all just visiting.
it was  
BleedBlue : 1/26/2020 3:23 pm : link
his daughters...

his wife must be sick
It's confirmed and awful:  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 3:23 pm : link
WPLG Local 10 News
@WPLGLocal10
#UPDATE Kobe Bryant's 4 daughters reportedly among those killed in helicopter crash http://bit.ly/38FTtlJ?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=snd&utm_content=wplg10
Not....  
OBJRoyal : 1/26/2020 3:24 pm : link
The kids.....😥
Kids reportedly not on board  
JB_in_DC : 1/26/2020 3:25 pm : link
Saw something that Rick Fox was
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The_Boss : 1/26/2020 3:25 pm : link
In comment 14794458 Dave in Hoboken said:
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BREAKING: Kobe Bryant's four daughters were reportedly among those killed in the helicopter crash.(Source: ABC News)


I really hope this is just more fake news from ABC....would make a sad day even worse if true
Nothing on TV says anything about his kids  
Route 9 : 1/26/2020 3:26 pm : link
What channel do you see this news on?
RE: It's confirmed and awful:  
Mike in NY : 1/26/2020 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14794462 Dave in Hoboken said:
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WPLG Local 10 News
@WPLGLocal10
#UPDATE Kobe Bryant's 4 daughters reportedly among those killed in helicopter crash http://bit.ly/38FTtlJ?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=snd&utm_content=wplg10


They were just repeating ABC
If 5 people died,  
Mr. Bungle : 1/26/2020 3:27 pm : link
how would Kobe + pilot + 4 daughters make sense?
CBS News reported it too, but maybe they're wrong.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 3:27 pm : link
I don't know.
Conflicting reports  
Saquads26 : 1/26/2020 3:27 pm : link
“ Sources have confirmed that neither #Bryant’s wife or children were on board of the helicopter that crashed.”
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RE: If 5 people died,  
robbieballs2003 : 1/26/2020 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14794474 Mr. Bungle said:
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how would Kobe + pilot + 4 daughters make sense?


Unless he was the pilot.
RE: If 5 people died,  
BleedBlue : 1/26/2020 3:28 pm : link
In comment 14794474 Mr. Bungle said:
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how would Kobe + pilot + 4 daughters make sense?


kobe=pilot
RE: If 5 people died,  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 3:28 pm : link
In comment 14794474 Mr. Bungle said:
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how would Kobe + pilot + 4 daughters make sense?


If Kobe is the pilot of his helicopter, it makes sense. Or it could just be 2 or 3 of his daughters were on board. Who knows.
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bw in dc : 1/26/2020 3:29 pm : link
In comment 14794477 robbieballs2003 said:
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how would Kobe + pilot + 4 daughters make sense?



Unless he was the pilot.


Then we'd be in JFK Jr territory...
This really gutted me.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/26/2020 3:29 pm : link
I am beyond sick over this.
RE: Nothing on TV says anything about his kids  
JB_in_DC : 1/26/2020 3:29 pm : link
In comment 14794471 Route 9 said:
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What channel do you see this news on?


They said it on an ABC special report around 3:05 during the pro bowl.
ABC either misspoke or just got it wrong  
jlukes : 1/26/2020 3:30 pm : link
Either way, they look like idiots
.  
pjcas18 : 1/26/2020 3:30 pm : link
Alexis Wainwright
@AWainwrightTV
· 14m
Sources have confirmed that neither #Bryant’s wife or children were on board of the helicopter that crashed.
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Bill in Del : 1/26/2020 3:31 pm : link
In comment 14794480 Dave in Hoboken said:
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how would Kobe + pilot + 4 daughters make sense?



If Kobe is the pilot of his helicopter, it makes sense. Or it could just be 2 or 3 of his daughters were on board. Who knows.


S-76 is complex helicopter, I would think there were 2 pilots. But there can be just one.
Roy Halladay  
DC Gmen Fan : 1/26/2020 3:31 pm : link
Thurmon Munson
NY Post says  
NoPeanutz : 1/26/2020 3:32 pm : link
"wife was not on board" and then "he is survived by his 4 daughters."
FWIW
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Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 3:33 pm : link
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how would Kobe + pilot + 4 daughters make sense?



If Kobe is the pilot of his helicopter, it makes sense. Or it could just be 2 or 3 of his daughters were on board. Who knows.



S-76 is complex helicopter, I would think there were 2 pilots. But there can be just one.


Yessir. Either way, I wouldn't get inside one of those things. Even before today, no thanks.
Bryant owned the 'copter.........  
BillKo : 1/26/2020 3:35 pm : link
...but did not pilot it. Had a personal pilot, per CNN.
Oh God. I’m sick.  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 3:35 pm : link
Utterly awful. A true icon
Saying Rick Fox  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/26/2020 3:36 pm : link
Was on the helicopter, but nothing is confirmed.
RE: Bryant owned the 'copter.........  
BleedBlue : 1/26/2020 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14794497 BillKo said:
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...but did not pilot it. Had a personal pilot, per CNN.


okay, so thats great news. means his daughters probably werent on board
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cjac : 1/26/2020 3:36 pm : link
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how would Kobe + pilot + 4 daughters make sense?



If Kobe is the pilot of his helicopter, it makes sense. Or it could just be 2 or 3 of his daughters were on board. Who knows.



S-76 is complex helicopter, I would think there were 2 pilots. But there can be just one.



Yessir. Either way, I wouldn't get inside one of those things. Even before today, no thanks.


When those tourists drowned in the east river a couple of years ago I told my wife it would have to be an extreme circumstance to get me into a helicopter
CBSN LA not confirming...  
Ryan : 1/26/2020 3:36 pm : link
...anything about who else was on board. Sports director has known him forever and said a helicopter was his standard form of transport from Newport Beach into LA so not a leisure thing.
RE: CBSN LA not confirming...  
BillKo : 1/26/2020 3:38 pm : link
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...anything about who else was on board. Sports director has known him forever and said a helicopter was his standard form of transport from Newport Beach into LA so not a leisure thing.


Right, they said traveling via plane was just hard on his body.....so the hellicopter was a quick way to get around.
From TMZ  
cjac : 1/26/2020 3:40 pm : link
12:35 PM PT -- Kobe's daughter Gianna Maria -- aka GiGi -- was also on board the helicopter and died in the crash ... reps for Kobe tell TMZ Sports. She was 13.
We're told they were on their way to the Mamba Academy for a basketball practice when the crash occurred. The Academy is in nearby Thousand Oaks
I'm just posting whatever I see  
Route 9 : 1/26/2020 3:40 pm : link
on stupid Facebook. Anyone hear about .... Rick Fox being on the helicopter?!
..  
BeckShepEli : 1/26/2020 3:41 pm : link
Rick Fox was not on board. Daughter confirmed he was not on board and alive and well
RE: Saying Rick Fox  
Route 9 : 1/26/2020 3:41 pm : link
In comment 14794499 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Was on the helicopter, but nothing is confirmed.


Yes. I read this as well.
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section125 : 1/26/2020 3:41 pm : link
In comment 14794501 cjac said:
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Yessir. Either way, I wouldn't get inside one of those things. Even before today, no thanks.



When those tourists drowned in the east river a couple of years ago I told my wife it would have to be an extreme circumstance to get me into a helicopter


Only did once..was at an Air Show and they had $75 rides in a Huey flown by Nam Vets..about 15 minute ride. Gave us a couple of hard turns and a drop...had the doors open and my daughter and I had the seats right next to the door...interesting feeling.
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Bill in Del : 1/26/2020 3:41 pm : link
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how would Kobe + pilot + 4 daughters make sense?



If Kobe is the pilot of his helicopter, it makes sense. Or it could just be 2 or 3 of his daughters were on board. Who knows.



S-76 is complex helicopter, I would think there were 2 pilots. But there can be just one.



Yessir. Either way, I wouldn't get inside one of those things. Even before today, no thanks.



When those tourists drowned in the east river a couple of years ago I told my wife it would have to be an extreme circumstance to get me into a helicopter


Actually in the event of complete engine failure your chances surviving in a helicopter are better than an airplane. That rotor blade will still spins and provides some lift.
RE: Tomorrow  
micky : 1/26/2020 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14794426 Rolyrock said:
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Ain't guaranteed. No matter who you are.


Point made through entire thread..that no one takes heed. Just shows mindset of this world
Per TMZ:  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 3:44 pm : link

TMZ
@TMZ
· 1m
#BREAKING: Kobe's daughter Gianna Maria was also on board the helicopter and died in the crash http://tmz.me/ngAw1tO
RE: From TMZ  
Danny Kanell : 1/26/2020 3:44 pm : link
In comment 14794507 cjac said:
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12:35 PM PT -- Kobe's daughter Gianna Maria -- aka GiGi -- was also on board the helicopter and died in the crash ... reps for Kobe tell TMZ Sports. She was 13.
We're told they were on their way to the Mamba Academy for a basketball practice when the crash occurred. The Academy is in nearby Thousand Oaks


Unbelievable
...  
BleedBlue : 1/26/2020 3:44 pm : link
Kobes 13 year old was on board...

tmz reports
RE: Per TMZ:  
ZogZerg : 1/26/2020 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14794517 Dave in Hoboken said:
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TMZ
@TMZ
· 1m
#BREAKING: Kobe's daughter Gianna Maria was also on board the helicopter and died in the crash http://tmz.me/ngAw1tO


TMZ is most reliable news source there is. I believe this over the ABC 4 daughter report.

Just Awful.
RE: Per TMZ:  
The_Boss : 1/26/2020 3:46 pm : link
In comment 14794517 Dave in Hoboken said:
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TMZ
@TMZ
· 1m
#BREAKING: Kobe's daughter Gianna Maria was also on board the helicopter and died in the crash http://tmz.me/ngAw1tO


Horrible news.
....  
Route 9 : 1/26/2020 3:47 pm : link

Sanaz Tahernia
@SanazTKRON4
BREAKING: His daughter is confirmed dead too. KobeBryant Dead, Dies http://tmz.com/2020/01/26/kob
What an absolutely terrible day.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 3:47 pm : link
2020 is off to an AWFUL start.
ABC is garbage  
Route 9 : 1/26/2020 3:47 pm : link
...
His daughter too?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/26/2020 3:48 pm : link
OMFG.

Hold your love ones tight tonight.

This really is surreal. I don't know what to even say. I was thinking of him yesterday when LBJ passed him for 3rd overall in scoring.
Damn man , just woke up from a nap to hear this awful news.  
WalterSobchak : 1/26/2020 3:49 pm : link
Helicopters are sketchy to me . Seems like I am always hearing of choppers crashing. Rip Kobe , sad to see him go so young
This is  
Eli owns all : 1/26/2020 3:50 pm : link
Just awful. Even after Lebron passed him on scoring list the other day. Kobe is the second greatest basketball player I’ve ever seen play. Prayers to his wife and if any of the kids survived.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: This is crazy  
eclipz928 : 1/26/2020 3:56 pm : link
In comment 14794421 Mike in NY said:
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Have we ever seen someone who was one of the best players ever in their sport and super popular die in a tragic accident at such a young age? I’m trying to think of something similar but I just can’t.



um Len Bias



Roberto Clemente



Rocky Marciano



Cory Lidle

Junior Seau. Maybe some WWF wrestlers. I don't think there's a real equivalent to this though.
...  
christian : 1/26/2020 4:00 pm : link
This is the equivalent of Clemente. A super star on and off the field.

A very sad day for all of sports, and just an awful tragedy and horrible for his family.
RE: ...  
Mad Mike : 1/26/2020 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14794536 christian said:
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This is the equivalent of Clemente. A super star on and off the field.

Yeah, that's a no.
These shitty comedians  
UConn4523 : 1/26/2020 4:01 pm : link
with their twitter accounts need to be taken out back...

Not a Kobe fan but Jesus Christ there are some miserable people out there already trying to make a buck off his death. And now adding his daughter on top of it?

Awful.
So it was his 14 year old daughter  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/26/2020 4:02 pm : link
And they were headed to a Basketball game for her travel basketball team. In the plane was another parent and another player on the team.
RE: RE: RE: RE: This is crazy  
81_Great_Dane : 1/26/2020 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14794419 greek13 said:
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Roberto Clemente



Rocky Marciano
Yes, similar. Especially Marciano.
Surreal  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/26/2020 4:02 pm : link
I’m speechless. Just an all time legend whose popularity really transcended the game. Hopefully his daughter wasn’t on the plane.

RIP
As a father  
cjac : 1/26/2020 4:06 pm : link
Of a daughter who is an athlete, and traveled with her all over, this is hitting me pretty hard.
Hate to see something like this  
Torrag : 1/26/2020 4:10 pm : link
5 people dead including a child.
Just terrible!  
Simms11 : 1/26/2020 4:13 pm : link
RIP one of the greatest NBA players of all time and the other 4 on board.
Woj...  
Saquads26 : 1/26/2020 4:13 pm : link
“ Sources: Kobe Bryant was on his way to a travel basketball game with his daughter Gianna when the helicopter crashed. Those aboard the helicopter also included another player and parent.”
Awful  
Les in TO : 1/26/2020 4:14 pm : link
Very sad.
This one hits me hard  
Sean : 1/26/2020 4:17 pm : link
Devastating. Prayers to the Bryant family.
My manager  
Les in TO : 1/26/2020 4:23 pm : link
Met him and his older daughter last year at his daughter’s volleyball tournament in Vegas. He said he was very down to earth signed lots of autographs.
NBA tribute  
KDubbs : 1/26/2020 4:23 pm : link
At Raptors-Spurs
Link - ( New Window )
Flashes of the horrible...  
bw in dc : 1/26/2020 4:38 pm : link
tragedy of Drazen Patrovic, one of the greatest shooters I have ever seen, hitting me right now...
Shaq tweets  
Saquads26 : 1/26/2020 4:49 pm : link
There’s no words to express the pain Im going through with this tragedy of loosing my neice Gigi & my brother @kobebryant I love u and u will be missed. My condolences goes out to the Bryant family and the families of the other passengers on board. IM SICK RIGHT NOW
https://twitter.com/shaq/status/1221549914766954496?s=21 - ( New Window )
My wife's brother played against  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/26/2020 4:51 pm : link
in high school. Split the series their entire time playing against each other.

People here in Philly love him.

What a tragic day.
Sad story  
bc4life : 1/26/2020 4:55 pm : link
Saddest part is the kids dying.

But, unfortunately no one is getting out of here alive. I always look at how people react, and in my humble opinion, overreact to the death of a celebrity. I wonder if you asked Kobe - "hey you can have the life you lived and check out at 41 or live a longer, but live a more traditional life?" - which one he would choose?

R.I.P. One of the greatest basketball players ever, did a lot of great things off the court during and after he hung up his sneaks.
Via twitter of Craig Melvin/NBC  
ChathamMark : 1/26/2020 4:55 pm : link
NBC news can confirm Kobe’s 13-year-old daughter Gianna was on board along with a teammate of hers and that teammate’s parent. Pilot also dead. Five total. Five lives cut far too short.
Stunned  
giantsfan227B : 1/26/2020 4:55 pm : link
I'm not a huge NBA fan and when I root for a team it is the Celtics but Kobe was one of the fiercest athletes I have ever seen but the thing that impressed me about him was how intelligent the guy was. He left high school and dominated the league but was years beyond his age. Spoke multiple languages. Handled the pressure. Could speak on a number of topics. Basketball was just a bridge to get him to bigger and better things. Very sad especially knowing his daughter was on the helicopter. RIP.
I never watched Kobe play  
Bill in Del : 1/26/2020 5:00 pm : link
I'm not really a basketball fan. But from what I have read about him for what he has done for the game and more importantly his generosity towards his commutiy and his high school, the world is definitely a lesser place without him.

RIP and may God keep his family strong.
RE: Hate to see something like this  
RobCarpenter : 1/26/2020 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14794553 Torrag said:
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5 people dead including a child.


Two children.
Does anyone know  
Darth Paul : 1/26/2020 5:28 pm : link
the name of the other family or pilot? I would like to add them to my prayer list tonight.
Does anyone know  
Darth Paul : 1/26/2020 5:29 pm : link
the name of the other family or pilot? I would like to add them to my prayer list tonight.
RE: Does anyone know  
DCGMan : 1/26/2020 5:34 pm : link
In comment 14794627 Darth Paul said:
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the name of the other family or pilot? I would like to add them to my prayer list tonight.


One person is John Altobelli, Orange Coast College baseball coach.
RE: RE: Does anyone know  
Darth Paul : 1/26/2020 5:38 pm : link
In comment 14794629 DCGMan said:
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In comment 14794627 Darth Paul said:


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the name of the other family or pilot? I would like to add them to my prayer list tonight.



One person is John Altobelli, Orange Coast College baseball coach.


Is that the pilot or Parent of the other player? The team was probably in the middle or winter workouts too.

So many affected.
The Sherriff  
SimpleMan : 1/26/2020 5:39 pm : link
just said there were 9 people on board.
An icon?  
KDavies : 1/26/2020 5:42 pm : link
Comparing him to Clemente? Are we talking about the same person?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kobe-bryants-disturbing-rape-case-the-dna-evidence-the-accusers-story-and-the-half-confession
RE: RE: RE: Does anyone know  
DCGMan : 1/26/2020 5:45 pm : link
In comment 14794630 Darth Paul said:
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the name of the other family or pilot? I would like to add them to my prayer list tonight.



One person is John Altobelli, Orange Coast College baseball coach.



Is that the pilot or Parent of the other player? The team was probably in the middle or winter workouts too.

So many affected.


There is speculation out there about him being a parent. I can’t confirm. There have been social media posts of the OCC baseball team mourning his loss. Police just mentioned nine people were on board.
RE: The Sherriff  
Bill in Del : 1/26/2020 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14794631 SimpleMan said:
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just said there were 9 people on board.



ABC news also stating 9 people on board
RE: An icon?  
Darth Paul : 1/26/2020 5:50 pm : link
In comment 14794634 KDavies said:
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Comparing him to Clemente? Are we talking about the same person?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kobe-bryants-disturbing-rape-case-the-dna-evidence-the-accusers-story-and-the-half-confession


While you are correct, if feels weird to bash right now. Think of the family's.
Bash?  
KDavies : 1/26/2020 5:53 pm : link
How is it bashing if I don’t find a rapist to be an icon or a hero simply because he can play basketball well?
Um, I'm not even an NBA fan,  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 5:54 pm : link
but Kobe is a bigger name than Clemente.
In times like these  
Mike from SI : 1/26/2020 5:54 pm : link
my preference is to give everyone a day or two to grieve before you bring up the negative parts of a person's life (unless it's like Hitler or Osama or someone like that).
RE: RE: RE: This is crazy  
Milton : 1/26/2020 5:55 pm : link
In comment 14794443 Matt M. said:
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In comment 14794367 illmatic said:


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Have we ever seen someone who was one of the best players ever in their sport and super popular die in a tragic accident at such a young age? I’m trying to think of something similar but I just can’t.



um Len Bias

Clemente. Munson.
Jerome Brown
Just recently...  
KDavies : 1/26/2020 5:57 pm : link
Jose Fernandez
RE: In times like these  
mfsd : 1/26/2020 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14794653 Mike from SI said:
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my preference is to give everyone a day or two to grieve before you bring up the negative parts of a person's life (unless it's like Hitler or Osama or someone like that).


+1
I have never heard that before  
KDavies : 1/26/2020 5:59 pm : link
Being a rapist is “ a negative part of one’s life.” Interesting
RE: Bash?  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 1/26/2020 6:01 pm : link
In comment 14794649 KDavies said:
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How is it bashing if I don’t find a rapist to be an icon or a hero simply because he can play basketball well?


He was still a human being.

He also clearly tried to do some positive things in his life.
RE: I have never heard that before  
Darth Paul : 1/26/2020 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14794661 KDavies said:
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Being a rapist is “ a negative part of one’s life.” Interesting


Anywhere from 4-8 other people died, not just the person committed/accused of rape.
I probably disliked Kobe more than anyone on this site.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/26/2020 6:04 pm : link
But Good God, his wife is now a widow/lost a daughter, his other children are now fatherless, & the rest of his family just lost a son, a brother, a cousin, etc.

Please just keep your negative Kobe takes to yourself.

I'm going to hold my family tighter tonight.

No day is promised.
I realize that.  
KDavies : 1/26/2020 6:05 pm : link
I was responding to people hero-worshipping Kobe. Sorry, as a father of three daughters, he is no hero
Uh oh.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 6:06 pm : link
Ramona Shelburne
@ramonashelburne
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Sheriff here says the manifest of helicopter crash that killed Kobe Bryant indicates 9 people were aboard.
RE: RE: In times like these  
Milton : 1/26/2020 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14794658 mfsd said:
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my preference is to give everyone a day or two to grieve before you bring up the negative parts of a person's life (unless it's like Hitler or Osama or someone like that).
Or Jerry Falwell
Hitchens on Jerry Falwell's death - ( New Window )
RE: I realize that.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14794666 KDavies said:
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I was responding to people hero-worshipping Kobe. Sorry, as a father of three daughters, he is no hero


Actually, to alot of people he IS a hero. So, you are factually incorrect.
Well it is factually correct he was a rapist  
KDavies : 1/26/2020 6:09 pm : link
So there’s that
RE: I have never heard that before  
Moondawg : 1/26/2020 6:14 pm : link
In comment 14794661 KDavies said:
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Being a rapist is “ a negative part of one’s life.” Interesting


January 2020.
RE: Well it is factually correct he was a rapist  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 6:15 pm : link
In comment 14794672 KDavies said:
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So there’s that


Wrong again. Case was dropped.
John Altobelli his wife and daughter all died  
capone : 1/26/2020 6:17 pm : link
He was a great baseball man literally never heard a bad word about ihim from anyone...

That means there’s three other passengers that have not been identified
Civil case settled out of court  
KDavies : 1/26/2020 6:17 pm : link
But I’m sure he paid up because he was innocent
You finally got one right.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/26/2020 6:22 pm : link
.
I am NOT a Kobe fan at all...  
EricJ : 1/26/2020 6:23 pm : link
and I actually thought he was a piece of crap too but not surprised there are a few assholes here using this opportunity to call him a rapist, etc.

Bunch of miserable fucks.. he is dead. It's over and there are three other kids who lost their father and a sister.
RE: Civil case settled out of court  
montanagiant : 1/26/2020 6:29 pm : link
In comment 14794684 KDavies said:
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But I’m sure he paid up because he was innocent

Give it a rest would you?
RE: John Altobelli his wife and daughter all died  
Darth Paul : 1/26/2020 6:31 pm : link
In comment 14794683 capone said:
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He was a great baseball man literally never heard a bad word about ihim from anyone...

That means there’s three other passengers that have not been identified


Sad
This thread is absolutely disgraceful  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 6:33 pm : link
Some of these posts are truly disgusting
RE: This thread is absolutely disgraceful  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/26/2020 6:36 pm : link
In comment 14794707 Anakim said:
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Some of these posts are truly disgusting


You surprised? 2020 trolls.
RE: RE: This thread is absolutely disgraceful  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 6:42 pm : link
In comment 14794709 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Some of these posts are truly disgusting



You surprised? 2020 trolls.



Even the first post on this thread.

"Now that would
section125 : 2:31 pm : link : reply
absolutely suck..."

So callous and distasteful.
I’m sure it’s some of the same clowns  
capone : 1/26/2020 6:47 pm : link
They couldn’t wait to make jokes about our player who was shot in the butt, His best friend died in that incident didn’t seem to matter you see the best and worst of humanity when things like this happen
Are you..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/26/2020 6:48 pm : link
being facetious?? It does suck that Kobe died.

There are a lot of shitty posts here. That one by section 125 isn't an example of that.
Right...  
Britt in VA : 1/26/2020 6:49 pm : link
it was unverified at the time.
Honestly, the internet has become an absolute cesspool.  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 6:51 pm : link
From the "fake news" of idiots trying to be the first one to report on something to these trolls who have no regard for human life. I just looked at Kobe's last tweet (it was to LeBron) and there are a bunch of fucking trolls celebrating his death and posting some random spam shit just to get attention. It's disgusting. Hell, you can hardly go on You Tube anymore without seeing a bunch of racist, Anti-Semitic, misogynistic comments.


But I digress. Point is, a fucking legendary athlete, his young daughter and several others were killed in a sudden and horrific way and we have truly wastes of life using this tragedy to get attention. Disgraceful. Truly disgraceful.

You know, I remember when 9/11 happened, it brought all of us Americans together. It really unified us. Not to compare this tragedy with 9/11, but I wonder if 9/11 happened in this day and age if we would band together. There's so much vitriol and downright stupidity in the world.
RE: Are you..  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 6:53 pm : link
In comment 14794721 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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being facetious?? It does suck that Kobe died.

There are a lot of shitty posts here. That one by section 125 isn't an example of that.


You think it's appropriate that one's first reaction to a death of an iconic figure is "boy, that would suck"?

Let's get real here.
I think this is a real  
capone : 1/26/2020 6:53 pm : link
Video of the crash… Very disturbing be warned
Link - ( New Window )
So many shit posters  
JoeyBigBlue : 1/26/2020 6:54 pm : link
On BBI lately. This thread is proof of that.
RE: I think this is a real  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 6:54 pm : link
In comment 14794725 capone said:
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Video of the crash… Very disturbing be warned Link - ( New Window )


It's not. Proven to be of a different crash.
RE: I think this is a real  
Producer : 1/26/2020 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14794725 capone said:
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Video of the crash… Very disturbing be warned Link - ( New Window )


in the comments they say it is video of a crash from a year ago in the UAE.
RE: Right...  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14794722 Britt in VA said:
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it was unverified at the time.


Britt, look at the posts following what he said. Shock, grief, even denial. "That would suck" isn't exactly a knee-jerk reaction.
It’s probably not real I’m very sorry please don’t look at it  
capone : 1/26/2020 6:55 pm : link
Sorry
RE: RE: Are you..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/26/2020 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14794724 Anakim said:
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being facetious?? It does suck that Kobe died.

There are a lot of shitty posts here. That one by section 125 isn't an example of that.



You think it's appropriate that one's first reaction to a death of an iconic figure is "boy, that would suck"?

Let's get real here.


C'mon man. Of course it would suck. And it does suck. What is inappropriate about it?
RE: I think this is a real  
capone : 1/26/2020 6:56 pm : link
In comment 14794725 capone said:
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Video of the crash… Very disturbing be warned Link - ( New Window )


Fake video sorry
RE: RE: Are you..  
Mr. Bungle : 1/26/2020 6:56 pm : link
In comment 14794724 Anakim said:
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being facetious?? It does suck that Kobe died.

There are a lot of shitty posts here. That one by section 125 isn't an example of that.



You think it's appropriate that one's first reaction to a death of an iconic figure is "boy, that would suck"?

Let's get real here.

Some people do use the expression "that sucks" to express profound disappointment.

I don't see the problem with that post.
RE: RE: RE: Are you..  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 6:58 pm : link
In comment 14794734 Mr. Bungle said:
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being facetious?? It does suck that Kobe died.

There are a lot of shitty posts here. That one by section 125 isn't an example of that.



You think it's appropriate that one's first reaction to a death of an iconic figure is "boy, that would suck"?

Let's get real here.


Some people do use the expression "that sucks" to express profound disappointment.

I don't see the problem with that post.


Seems at best, apathetic and at worse, callous to me.
i'm still in shock  
RasputinPrime : 1/26/2020 7:08 pm : link
it's such a loss.

Altobellli, wife and child included.
MLB players mourn - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: RE: Are you..  
Chris in Philly : 1/26/2020 7:17 pm : link
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being facetious?? It does suck that Kobe died.

There are a lot of shitty posts here. That one by section 125 isn't an example of that.



You think it's appropriate that one's first reaction to a death of an iconic figure is "boy, that would suck"?

Let's get real here.


Some people do use the expression "that sucks" to express profound disappointment.

I don't see the problem with that post.



Seems at best, apathetic and at worse, callous to me.


This is a very, very strange take...
Trolls and “look at me” posts  
Mike from Ohio : 1/26/2020 7:18 pm : link
It’s really disappointing that we have devolved so far that people can’t just express condolences when a tragedy occurs, or just shut their mouths for 24 hours if they feel like saying something callous.

RIP to everyone who died in that horrible accident.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Are you..  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 7:19 pm : link
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being facetious?? It does suck that Kobe died.

There are a lot of shitty posts here. That one by section 125 isn't an example of that.



You think it's appropriate that one's first reaction to a death of an iconic figure is "boy, that would suck"?

Let's get real here.


Some people do use the expression "that sucks" to express profound disappointment.

I don't see the problem with that post.



Seems at best, apathetic and at worse, callous to me.



This is a very, very strange take...


Why? Because other people had more sincere, visceral reactions and one person didn't?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Are you..  
Chris in Philly : 1/26/2020 7:22 pm : link
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being facetious?? It does suck that Kobe died.

There are a lot of shitty posts here. That one by section 125 isn't an example of that.



You think it's appropriate that one's first reaction to a death of an iconic figure is "boy, that would suck"?

Let's get real here.


Some people do use the expression "that sucks" to express profound disappointment.

I don't see the problem with that post.



Seems at best, apathetic and at worse, callous to me.



This is a very, very strange take...



Why? Because other people had more sincere, visceral reactions and one person didn't?


Because (a) there is absolutely nothing wrong with what he said and (b) what the fuck do you care what other people’s reactions are? And who are you to judge whether they are sincere enough? You’re being a weirdo.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Are you..  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 7:25 pm : link
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being facetious?? It does suck that Kobe died.

There are a lot of shitty posts here. That one by section 125 isn't an example of that.



You think it's appropriate that one's first reaction to a death of an iconic figure is "boy, that would suck"?

Let's get real here.


Some people do use the expression "that sucks" to express profound disappointment.

I don't see the problem with that post.



Seems at best, apathetic and at worse, callous to me.



This is a very, very strange take...



Why? Because other people had more sincere, visceral reactions and one person didn't?



Because (a) there is absolutely nothing wrong with what he said and (b) what the fuck do you care what other people’s reactions are? And who are you to judge whether they are sincere enough? You’re being a weirdo.


Fuck you, Chris. Seriously, fuck you. Someone posts a thread on a tragedy and the first reaction is it would suck? Like it's a fucking trade or a shitty signing?

This conversation is over. It's disrespectful to the memory of Kobe Bryant, his daughter, and the other people who perished.
I saw this thread get posted and responded to as it was actually  
Britt in VA : 1/26/2020 7:26 pm : link
happening in real time, and when I saw the thread title and opened it and saw the first response I thought, "yeah, that would suck, is this for real?"

Nothing wrong with what he said.
There was nothing wrong with Section’s  
Mike from Ohio : 1/26/2020 7:30 pm : link
post on this thread. Everyone with the exception of one poster agrees with that. There is no need to defend it.
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BubbaMojo : 1/26/2020 7:31 pm : link
Absolutely nothing wrong with post by section. What a weird (stupid) take by Anakim.
RE: I saw this thread get posted and responded to as it was actually  
EricJ : 1/26/2020 7:31 pm : link
In comment 14794768 Britt in VA said:
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happening in real time, and when I saw the thread title and opened it and saw the first response I thought, "yeah, that would suck, is this for real?"

Nothing wrong with what he said.


yeah... I had no issue with that because he had good intent. It was some of the other posts afterwards that...well... I am not surprised.
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steve in ky : 1/26/2020 7:32 pm : link
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being facetious?? It does suck that Kobe died.

There are a lot of shitty posts here. That one by section 125 isn't an example of that.



You think it's appropriate that one's first reaction to a death of an iconic figure is "boy, that would suck"?

Let's get real here.


Some people do use the expression "that sucks" to express profound disappointment.

I don't see the problem with that post.



Seems at best, apathetic and at worse, callous to me.



This is a very, very strange take...



Why? Because other people had more sincere, visceral reactions and one person didn't?



Because (a) there is absolutely nothing wrong with what he said and (b) what the fuck do you care what other people’s reactions are? And who are you to judge whether they are sincere enough? You’re being a weirdo.



Fuck you, Chris. Seriously, fuck you. Someone posts a thread on a tragedy and the first reaction is it would suck? Like it's a fucking trade or a shitty signing?

This conversation is over. It's disrespectful to the memory of Kobe Bryant, his daughter, and the other people who perished.


Man I assume you do contract law and not trial because sometimes you are truly tone deaf with people.

Maybe you wouldn't have used that phrasing, I probably wouldn't have either, but there is absolutely no way from what he posted that you can determine that he didn't mean that sincerely, and for you to call him out for it and make that assumption is a crappy thing to do.
Very sad day in the world of sports.  
Beezer : 1/26/2020 7:33 pm : link
Like him or not, this guy was one of the all-time greats, liked with his young child and others. A true tragedy.

RIP to all who perished in this accident. Terrible.
*died with  
Beezer : 1/26/2020 7:35 pm : link
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RE: It’s probably not real I’m very sorry please don’t look at it  
montanagiant : 1/26/2020 7:36 pm : link
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Sorry

You didn't know, don't worry about it Capone
I grew up a Lakers fan  
RasputinPrime : 1/26/2020 7:43 pm : link
and for many years, I didn't like Kobe. I swallowed the public scorn whole.

When i got a little older I looked deeper into the Laker legend and found inspiration in the application of the mamba-mentality. After he retired I found it a struggle to watch the Lakers - still do.

To all the loved ones who lost someone in the crash today, my heart weeps for your loss.
We’re allowed to mourn  
ajr2456 : 1/26/2020 7:47 pm : link
Imperfect people. If we weren’t a lot of people wouldn’t be mourned.

Not sure what one gains from shitting on Kobe about an allegation that occurred 15 years ago. Even he did do it, it’s been very evident in his behavior and how he dealt with the WNBA and women’s college basketball that it was more an isolated incident.

There is a such thing as rehabilitation and second chances.
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christian : 1/26/2020 7:52 pm : link
These threads always get weird for some reason.

A person none of us presumably know died. It kicks in our own sense of mortality, our memories and fears of grief and loss.

For some us it's particularly sad if we cheered for, enjoyed, or admired this someone we didn't know.

These discussions don't need to devolve into value propositions of grading how one must react.
In my 26 yrs here  
Dave on the UWS : 1/26/2020 8:05 pm : link
this is without question THE most disgraceful thread I’ve ever seen. When a tragedy happens, it doesn’t matter if you’re a fan or not, if you had a positive or negative opinion of the guy. Nine people lost their lives. You say a prayer, wish the family well, and remind yourself to cherish each day., because tomorrow may never come. Anything else? Keep to yourself, it’s not appropriate today on this thread.
RE: I saw this thread get posted and responded to as it was actually  
johnnyb : 1/26/2020 8:15 pm : link
In comment 14794768 Britt in VA said:
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happening in real time, and when I saw the thread title and opened it and saw the first response I thought, "yeah, that would suck, is this for real?"

Nothing wrong with what he said.


+1. I think there is a bit of an overreaction to the comment.

Yes, it does suck. Some people express themselves differently than others.
RE: RE: I saw this thread get posted and responded to as it was actually  
eric2425ny : 1/26/2020 8:21 pm : link
In comment 14794805 johnnyb said:
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happening in real time, and when I saw the thread title and opened it and saw the first response I thought, "yeah, that would suck, is this for real?"

Nothing wrong with what he said.



+1. I think there is a bit of an overreaction to the comment.

Yes, it does suck. Some people express themselves differently than others.


I think this post was taken out of context. This was posted when there was speculation that he was in a crash, no one knew anything yet. I think the intent of the post was hoping it wasn’t a legit story.
RE: RE: Are you..  
santacruzom : 1/26/2020 8:23 pm : link
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being facetious?? It does suck that Kobe died.

There are a lot of shitty posts here. That one by section 125 isn't an example of that.



You think it's appropriate that one's first reaction to a death of an iconic figure is "boy, that would suck"?

Let's get real here.


When the report is still unverified at the time? Absolutely.
All I have to say is as a sports fan  
Chris684 : 1/26/2020 8:27 pm : link
today is totally surreal.

I’m going to be 36 and for the majority of my lifetime Kobe Bryant has been a household name, a superstar and pop culture icon.

I remember watching his first matchup against Jordan. The time he scored 61 at the Garden. His finals matchups with the Celtics.

I’m sad for him, his family, his poor wife who has now lost a husband and a child with 3 more children to care for, 2 of them practically babies. I’m sad for Shaq and Jordan and LeBron and all the rest of the NBA fraternity who must feel like they lost a brother.

This just feels like we’re in the twilight zone. Talking about Kobe in the past tense. Unbelievable.
RE: In my 26 yrs here  
capone : 1/26/2020 8:38 pm : link
In comment 14794797 Dave on the UWS said:
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this is without question THE most disgraceful thread I’ve ever seen. When a tragedy happens, it doesn’t matter if you’re a fan or not, if you had a positive or negative opinion of the guy. Nine people lost their lives. You say a prayer, wish the family well, and remind yourself to cherish each day., because tomorrow may never come. Anything else? Keep to yourself, it’s not appropriate today on this thread.


X100 ..... delete this thread please
The fact that people feel so incredibly strongly either way is why  
JesseS : 1/26/2020 8:40 pm : link
I have a thriving private practice!

Who gives a shit if someone does care or doesn’t care? Are people that sensitive to what others think? Why does it matter if someone on a message board focuses more on his legal struggles than him being a sports hero. “How dare, you, he was flawed but had a family”! “ How dare you, he was most likely a rapist as well!” “How dare you, the charge was dropped”! He’s a basketball player who no one ever met.

And the fact that he has family or a kid died? Shit, I could roll off literally hundreds of stories from being a psychotherapist JUST at the school I work at and private practice, of heartbreaking stuff and people usually don’t stop to notice. Good for you folks that live in a world where this makes you cherish your family more - man, I could really blow your minds on what happens behind the scenes in “everytown, USA”. It’s no different than someone dying in a car accident with their kid. It’s super shitty, of course - but if he weren’t a great basketball player, would everyone be having such a reaction? People connect people to experiences they had - not even memories, since we don’t hold information that we’ll - and then it comes flying out when shit like this happens. It’s like someone hits a play button on our crappy, lo fi, tape recorders.

Everyone is very morally conscientious. Bravo! Outrage culture keeps my job outlook alive and well!

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Chris in Philly : 1/26/2020 8:41 pm : link
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being facetious?? It does suck that Kobe died.

There are a lot of shitty posts here. That one by section 125 isn't an example of that.



You think it's appropriate that one's first reaction to a death of an iconic figure is "boy, that would suck"?

Let's get real here.


Some people do use the expression "that sucks" to express profound disappointment.

I don't see the problem with that post.



Seems at best, apathetic and at worse, callous to me.



This is a very, very strange take...



Why? Because other people had more sincere, visceral reactions and one person didn't?



Because (a) there is absolutely nothing wrong with what he said and (b) what the fuck do you care what other people’s reactions are? And who are you to judge whether they are sincere enough? You’re being a weirdo.



Fuck you, Chris. Seriously, fuck you. Someone posts a thread on a tragedy and the first reaction is it would suck? Like it's a fucking trade or a shitty signing?

This conversation is over. It's disrespectful to the memory of Kobe Bryant, his daughter, and the other people who perished.


Um, okay. This is totally normal. Have a good night, freak.
people  
Producer : 1/26/2020 8:43 pm : link
seem to be losing their minds over this..
Anakim...  
bw in dc : 1/26/2020 8:46 pm : link
You and I have had good football discussion over the last few years. So I pose this as a friendly poster - Section 125 seems like a pretty good guy. I don't think his intentions were meant to be provocative or incendiary.
The culture over the last 5 or so years  
Mike from SI : 1/26/2020 8:54 pm : link
has really made some people lose their minds. I hope this is just a blip and people go back to being normal at some point.
Horrible news  
dpinzow : 1/26/2020 9:03 pm : link
RIP Kobe, Gianna and everyone else on that helicopter. Tomorrow is never guaranteed for anyone. Hug your loved ones or give them a ring if they’re a long distance away
RE: The fact that people feel so incredibly strongly either way is why  
Mr. Bungle : 1/26/2020 9:04 pm : link
In comment 14794822 JesseS said:
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I have a thriving private practice!

Who gives a shit if someone does care or doesn’t care? Are people that sensitive to what others think? Why does it matter if someone on a message board focuses more on his legal struggles than him being a sports hero. “How dare, you, he was flawed but had a family”! “ How dare you, he was most likely a rapist as well!” “How dare you, the charge was dropped”! He’s a basketball player who no one ever met.

And the fact that he has family or a kid died? Shit, I could roll off literally hundreds of stories from being a psychotherapist JUST at the school I work at and private practice, of heartbreaking stuff and people usually don’t stop to notice. Good for you folks that live in a world where this makes you cherish your family more - man, I could really blow your minds on what happens behind the scenes in “everytown, USA”. It’s no different than someone dying in a car accident with their kid. It’s super shitty, of course - but if he weren’t a great basketball player, would everyone be having such a reaction? People connect people to experiences they had - not even memories, since we don’t hold information that we’ll - and then it comes flying out when shit like this happens. It’s like someone hits a play button on our crappy, lo fi, tape recorders.

Everyone is very morally conscientious. Bravo! Outrage culture keeps my job outlook alive and well!

You may have a "thriving private practice" (although I doubt it), but you don't have much skill in expressing a cogent, insightful perspective in writing.
JesseS  
Bradshaw's Decal : 1/26/2020 9:06 pm : link
You really should think of another line of work... It's effecting you... and not in a positive way.
RE: The fact that people feel so incredibly strongly either way is why  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/26/2020 9:08 pm : link
In comment 14794822 JesseS said:
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I have a thriving private practice!

Who gives a shit if someone does care or doesn’t care? Are people that sensitive to what others think? Why does it matter if someone on a message board focuses more on his legal struggles than him being a sports hero. “How dare, you, he was flawed but had a family”! “ How dare you, he was most likely a rapist as well!” “How dare you, the charge was dropped”! He’s a basketball player who no one ever met.

And the fact that he has family or a kid died? Shit, I could roll off literally hundreds of stories from being a psychotherapist JUST at the school I work at and private practice, of heartbreaking stuff and people usually don’t stop to notice. Good for you folks that live in a world where this makes you cherish your family more - man, I could really blow your minds on what happens behind the scenes in “everytown, USA”. It’s no different than someone dying in a car accident with their kid. It’s super shitty, of course - but if he weren’t a great basketball player, would everyone be having such a reaction? People connect people to experiences they had - not even memories, since we don’t hold information that we’ll - and then it comes flying out when shit like this happens. It’s like someone hits a play button on our crappy, lo fi, tape recorders.

Everyone is very morally conscientious. Bravo! Outrage culture keeps my job outlook alive and well!


I have very similar feelings.
RE: The fact that people feel so incredibly strongly either way is why  
Eli owns all : 1/26/2020 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14794822 JesseS said:
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I have a thriving private practice!

Who gives a shit if someone does care or doesn’t care? Are people that sensitive to what others think? Why does it matter if someone on a message board focuses more on his legal struggles than him being a sports hero. “How dare, you, he was flawed but had a family”! “ How dare you, he was most likely a rapist as well!” “How dare you, the charge was dropped”! He’s a basketball player who no one ever met.


Okay boomer

And the fact that he has family or a kid died? Shit, I could roll off literally hundreds of stories from being a psychotherapist JUST at the school I work at and private practice, of heartbreaking stuff and people usually don’t stop to notice. Good for you folks that live in a world where this makes you cherish your family more - man, I could really blow your minds on what happens behind the scenes in “everytown, USA”. It’s no different than someone dying in a car accident with their kid. It’s super shitty, of course - but if he weren’t a great basketball player, would everyone be having such a reaction? People connect people to experiences they had - not even memories, since we don’t hold information that we’ll - and then it comes flying out when shit like this happens. It’s like someone hits a play button on our crappy, lo fi, tape recorders.

Everyone is very morally conscientious. Bravo! Outrage culture keeps my job outlook alive and well!
RIP to Kobe, his daughter, and all the others who lost their lives.  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/26/2020 9:12 pm : link
Too young, much too young.
RE: The fact that people feel so incredibly strongly either way is why  
Darth Paul : 1/26/2020 9:26 pm : link
In comment 14794822 JesseS said:
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I have a thriving private practice!

Who gives a shit if someone does care or doesn’t care? Are people that sensitive to what others think? Why does it matter if someone on a message board focuses more on his legal struggles than him being a sports hero. “How dare, you, he was flawed but had a family”! “ How dare you, he was most likely a rapist as well!” “How dare you, the charge was dropped”! He’s a basketball player who no one ever met.

And the fact that he has family or a kid died? Shit, I could roll off literally hundreds of stories from being a psychotherapist JUST at the school I work at and private practice, of heartbreaking stuff and people usually don’t stop to notice. Good for you folks that live in a world where this makes you cherish your family more - man, I could really blow your minds on what happens behind the scenes in “everytown, USA”. It’s no different than someone dying in a car accident with their kid. It’s super shitty, of course - but if he weren’t a great basketball player, would everyone be having such a reaction? People connect people to experiences they had - not even memories, since we don’t hold information that we’ll - and then it comes flying out when shit like this happens. It’s like someone hits a play button on our crappy, lo fi, tape recorders.

Everyone is very morally conscientious. Bravo! Outrage culture keeps my job outlook alive and well!


I love BBI.
RE: RE: The fact that people feel so incredibly strongly either way is why  
Producer : 1/26/2020 9:31 pm : link
In comment 14794845 Zeke's Alibi said:
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I have a thriving private practice!

Who gives a shit if someone does care or doesn’t care? Are people that sensitive to what others think? Why does it matter if someone on a message board focuses more on his legal struggles than him being a sports hero. “How dare, you, he was flawed but had a family”! “ How dare you, he was most likely a rapist as well!” “How dare you, the charge was dropped”! He’s a basketball player who no one ever met.

And the fact that he has family or a kid died? Shit, I could roll off literally hundreds of stories from being a psychotherapist JUST at the school I work at and private practice, of heartbreaking stuff and people usually don’t stop to notice. Good for you folks that live in a world where this makes you cherish your family more - man, I could really blow your minds on what happens behind the scenes in “everytown, USA”. It’s no different than someone dying in a car accident with their kid. It’s super shitty, of course - but if he weren’t a great basketball player, would everyone be having such a reaction? People connect people to experiences they had - not even memories, since we don’t hold information that we’ll - and then it comes flying out when shit like this happens. It’s like someone hits a play button on our crappy, lo fi, tape recorders.

Everyone is very morally conscientious. Bravo! Outrage culture keeps my job outlook alive and well!




I have very similar feelings.


it is human nature to identify with famous people and their trials and tragedies. Some call it the celebrity culture. It just is who we are. Of course it isn't perfectly logical. We don't know these people. But we experience life to an extent through there lives, for better or worse. And in the case of Kobe, well he is just bigger than most, at least in the sporting world.

Basketball produces the most iconic athletes, at least in the US. Why? Well one, because it is a 5 on 5 game, and one superstar affects the game more than a superstar can in football (22 x 22) or baseball (9 x 9). The individual superstars in basketball always win the championships, the other games are more team achievements. Two, the athletes are unencumbered by a lot of gear and so we see their faces in close up all the time. Three, basketball has become linked to youth culture in a way other sports aren't. So Kobe, as one of basketball's greatest and most visible 5 players in the last 30 years is iconic. It is like James Dean dying. So people have out-sized feelings about it. They felt they knew him, he occupied a chunk of their lives (time and mental/emotional space). It is no surprise they mourn like they lost a family member or a friend.

I'm not much of a basketball fan and while I think kobe was a phenomenal player I am older and never identified as much with him as many younger fans did. But when Thurman died when I was 14, that really shook me. I was young and it was one of my first encounters with death.

I guess I am saying yes, on some level it doesn't make sense to care so much about someone you don't know but on the other hand, emotions are emotions, and this is how we are wired.
Be cool Anakim  
Optimus-NY : 1/26/2020 9:37 pm : link
Come on dude.

Condolences to the Bryant family. I just woke up to learn about this overseas. Crazy ish man. I'm still learning about it. Some of you folks on this thread need to chill out. Tomorrow is not guaranteed to any of us.
RE: Bash?  
shocktheworld : 1/26/2020 9:40 pm : link
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How is it bashing if I don’t find a rapist to be an icon or a hero simply because he can play basketball well?


You are a fucking asshole, you piece of shit muthafucker! I wish I could be in front of you and beat the shit out of you.... What a fuck stick
Shocktgeworld...  
KDavies : 1/26/2020 9:43 pm : link
You are threatening me? Internet tough guy right there. Sorry you don’t agree with me on a subject, cupcake
RE: Honestly, the internet has become an absolute cesspool.  
short lease : 1/26/2020 9:50 pm : link
In comment 14794723 Anakim said:
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From the "fake news" of idiots trying to be the first one to report on something to these trolls who have no regard for human life. I just looked at Kobe's last tweet (it was to LeBron) and there are a bunch of fucking trolls celebrating his death and posting some random spam shit just to get attention. It's disgusting. Hell, you can hardly go on You Tube anymore without seeing a bunch of racist, Anti-Semitic, misogynistic comments.


But I digress. Point is, a fucking legendary athlete, his young daughter and several others were killed in a sudden and horrific way and we have truly wastes of life using this tragedy to get attention. Disgraceful. Truly disgraceful.

You know, I remember when 9/11 happened, it brought all of us Americans together. It really unified us. Not to compare this tragedy with 9/11, but I wonder if 9/11 happened in this day and age if we would band together. There's so much vitriol and downright stupidity in the world.



Cesspool - A LONG time ago. Sad.
There was nothing whatsoever wrong with what section125 said  
Greg from LI : 1/26/2020 9:50 pm : link
If you think it's something to get outraged about, Anak, I don't know what to say to you. I'm with Cippy on this one.
RE: Shocktgeworld...  
mattnyg05 : 1/26/2020 9:52 pm : link
In comment 14794875 KDavies said:
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You are threatening me? Internet tough guy right there. Sorry you don’t agree with me on a subject, cupcake


There’s just no point in having this opinion at this time, unless you made up a new handle to do so and just enjoy the attention of being contrarian.

I don’t necessarily disagree with you all that much, but you had to know that posting this at this time would get you what you’re getting in response (and what you deserve to be honest). Enjoy it because it’s clearly what you’re after.
KDavies  
Keaton028 : 1/26/2020 9:52 pm : link
you are absolutely being an asshole. I'll never understand how some people enjoy get their kicks in by being trolls. Blows my mind.
Matty  
KDavies : 1/26/2020 9:58 pm : link
Not after anything. No I don’t expect to be threatened by unhinged lunatics simply because of a different opinion. I have a wife and three daughters. I have dealt with this shit with people close to me. Sorry, I don’t get the hero worship of him. It’s sad what happened to his daughter and everyone on the plane, but again I don’t get the hero worship.

Sad  
TommyWiseau : 1/26/2020 10:01 pm : link
for all involved and their families. It is an awful thing no matter who it was
Keaton...  
KDavies : 1/26/2020 10:02 pm : link
Yep, I’m an asshole. I don’t think rapists should be worshipped.
I would just consider “not getting it”  
mattnyg05 : 1/26/2020 10:02 pm : link
to yourself at this point. It’s not worth expressing at this moment. Maybe later on? Whether it deserves to be brought up later is a valid question but it’s kind of silly to expect people to be ok with what you’re saying right now.

I suppose that’s happened a few times considering you just joined for this glorious moment.
It isn't about whether you  
Keaton028 : 1/26/2020 10:02 pm : link
"get the hero worship". It's more about sniping at people who are dealing with something traumatic and fresh. You are choosing this day to badger people who were fans of an iconic athlete. Awful.
This getting compared to the death of Princess Diana  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/26/2020 10:03 pm : link
Because it is transcending sports itself and I can not deny that at all.

People who don’t even know much about basketball are feeling this. Truely sad.
RE: Matty  
Producer : 1/26/2020 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14794892 KDavies said:
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Not after anything. No I don’t expect to be threatened by unhinged lunatics simply because of a different opinion. I have a wife and three daughters. I have dealt with this shit with people close to me. Sorry, I don’t get the hero worship of him. It’s sad what happened to his daughter and everyone on the plane, but again I don’t get the hero worship.


so what? other do view him as a hero. it is polite and decent to let them grieve without your vitriol.
Wow someone above clearly ran out of their medication  
Saquads26 : 1/26/2020 10:04 pm : link
Talk about mentally unstable...
This is so fucking sad  
Paulie Walnuts : 1/26/2020 10:15 pm : link
Horrible
From what Section said  
Jalapeno : 1/26/2020 10:19 pm : link
and until further on, this thread developed into a heartbreaking tragedy with an outpouring of emotional tributes and memories and love.

Then it kind of spiraled.

Hopefully we can get back on track and realize that the sports world lost a great.

And that multiple families lost husbands fathers sons wives mothers daughters etc.

This is about them.

Not us and our "hot takes".

section is a great poster  
adamg : 1/26/2020 10:22 pm : link
Nothing wrong with what he said.
RE: section is a great poster  
Jalapeno : 1/26/2020 10:26 pm : link
Absolutely.

Was the exact reaction I had as the story was being reported and pieced together.
RE: Keaton...  
JayBinQueens : 1/26/2020 10:35 pm : link
In comment 14794895 KDavies said:
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Yep, I’m an asshole. I don’t think rapists should be worshipped.

You're an asshole because you want to make/are making an incident that many people are mourning about yourself.
RE: RE: This is crazy  
Mr. Bungle : 1/26/2020 10:40 pm : link
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Have we ever seen someone who was one of the best players ever in their sport and super popular die in a tragic accident at such a young age? I’m trying to think of something similar but I just can’t.



um Len Bias

This is a spectacularly crappy comparison.
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Leg of Theismann : 1/26/2020 11:03 pm : link
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being facetious?? It does suck that Kobe died.

There are a lot of shitty posts here. That one by section 125 isn't an example of that.



You think it's appropriate that one's first reaction to a death of an iconic figure is "boy, that would suck"?

Let's get real here.


Some people do use the expression "that sucks" to express profound disappointment.

I don't see the problem with that post.



Seems at best, apathetic and at worse, callous to me.



This is a very, very strange take...



Why? Because other people had more sincere, visceral reactions and one person didn't?



Because (a) there is absolutely nothing wrong with what he said and (b) what the fuck do you care what other people’s reactions are? And who are you to judge whether they are sincere enough? You’re being a weirdo.



Fuck you, Chris. Seriously, fuck you. Someone posts a thread on a tragedy and the first reaction is it would suck? Like it's a fucking trade or a shitty signing?

This conversation is over. It's disrespectful to the memory of Kobe Bryant, his daughter, and the other people who perished.


Get off your high horse. You're the one assuming he meant it in the same way as "a trade or shitty signing." No one else took it that way.

Everyone expresses and deals with grief differently. Sure, some people say things like "I express my sincere and deepest condolences," and that's fine. But for some that can feel too formal and cliche for something that really just strikes them on a deep visceral level, and maybe instead they feel they can't truly encapsulate how awful something feels other than to simply say "this fucking sucks."

This is the worst I've felt upon hearing the news of anyone famous passing away in my entire lifetime, and I'm especially heart-broken that his daughter was with him and perished as well. When I texted my friend about it I at one point said something like "it's all so fucking shitty," which is similar to saying it "sucks." Today does suck, a lot.
Can we all please move on? This thread has lost its meaning.  
PhiPsi125 : 1/26/2020 11:11 pm : link
It’s always sad when we lose people, but watching how many people this has affected is heartbreaking. Kobe touched a lot of lives. Was an inspiration to nearly the entire league of basketball players...past and present.

Didn’t realize that games that were being played today started off with both teams taking a delay of game penalty - 24 seconds. Nice tribute. Had to be incredibly emotional for many to be able to play today. So sad for everyone on that helicopter.
One of those days you pray and hope TMZ jumped the gun  
TommytheElephant : 1/26/2020 11:16 pm : link
Even when other news outlets reported it he news they were saying “as per tmz” and “reported that”

Pretty futile I was grasping at straws in hope against hope.

Rest In Peace to all those who perished.
RE: Anakim...  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 11:24 pm : link
In comment 14794830 bw in dc said:
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You and I have had good football discussion over the last few years. So I pose this as a friendly poster - Section 125 seems like a pretty good guy. I don't think his intentions were meant to be provocative or incendiary.


Section does seem like a good guy, but initially, that comment rubbed me the wrong way. However, I apologize to him if I misconstrued his post. Some people do express grief and shock in different manners and I should've considered that before jumping down his throat and reacting viscerally and rash. It's been a rough day and the last thing I want to do is be the morality police.

I apologize.
RE: Keaton...  
bLiTz 2k : 1/26/2020 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14794895 KDavies said:
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Yep, I’m an asshole. I don’t think rapists should be worshipped.


people lost their lives. its tragic regardless of what you feel about a celebrity..

and yes you are an asshole.
Anakim...  
bw in dc : 1/26/2020 11:35 pm : link
All good. It's been a very tough day indeed.



Interesting Giants side note  
BigBlue in Keys : 1/27/2020 12:20 am : link
Danny Jones says he picked #8 because of Kobe.

"On Friday, Jones was asked why he chose to wear No. 8 among the many numbers offered to him by the Giants.

“Old Kobe, I guess,” he replied"
Link - ( New Window )
Still cannot believe this  
Route 9 : 1/27/2020 12:57 am : link
Havent been into NBA for years but I loved the late 90s/early 2000s. Kobe. Shaq. Kids. Duncan. Jordan.


Iverson... lol.
Kidd  
Route 9 : 1/27/2020 12:57 am : link
...
I am shocked  
You'reMyBoyBlue!! : 1/27/2020 3:31 am : link
By how affected I was by this. Zero fan connection to Kobe in any way and yet I found myself crying multiple times today.

Life is effing crazy.
What a tragedy my heart is breaking for the  
JCin332 : 1/27/2020 6:20 am : link
grief his family and all the affected families must be going through...

I will keep them all in my thoughts and prayers...
RE: Keaton...  
Diver_Down : 1/27/2020 6:40 am : link
In comment 14794895 KDavies said:
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Yep, I’m an asshole. I don’t think rapists should be worshipped.


Just so that you are consistent, I presume you condemn our very own child rapist, LT.
Forget Basketball  
HMunster : 1/27/2020 6:51 am : link
Or anything else. None of that matters.

9 people were taken from this world way too early and that’s just an absolutely horrible tragedy.

RIP to all of them. Prayers for their families and loved ones.
RE: Forget Basketball  
Optimus-NY : 1/27/2020 7:54 am : link
In comment 14794999 HMunster said:
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Or anything else. None of that matters.

9 people were taken from this world way too early and that’s just an absolutely horrible tragedy.

RIP to all of them. Prayers for their families and loved ones.


Exactly. Amen.
two kids died. 2.... and forget kobe for a second.  
GMAN4LIFE : 1/27/2020 8:10 am : link
two parents, mom and dad died on that plane. The son i believe is a scout for the Sox. He is left with no parents and sister.

let that sink in when you make such shitty comments in a thread where people just are mourning 1 of the 9 people.
Has there been any comments  
Earl the goat : 1/27/2020 8:56 am : link
From Kobe’s parents Joe and Pam
I know they haven’t been on speaking terms
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/27/2020 9:05 am : link
Still unreal. It's going to take some time to accept this. Two 13 years old too...

Just heartbreaking.
RE: two kids died. 2.... and forget kobe for a second.  
Now Mike in MD : 1/27/2020 9:10 am : link
In comment 14795023 GMAN4LIFE said:
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two parents, mom and dad died on that plane. The son i believe is a scout for the Sox. He is left with no parents and sister.

let that sink in when you make such shitty comments in a thread where people just are mourning 1 of the 9 people.


Why? No one who knew these people are going to see anything said here nor will it have any impact on those who lost the loved ones yesterday. This is just an anonymous message board where people express opinions. Let's not give it more importance than reality dictates
RE: RE: two kids died. 2.... and forget kobe for a second.  
GMAN4LIFE : 1/27/2020 9:16 am : link
In comment 14795065 Now Mike in MD said:
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In comment 14795023 GMAN4LIFE said:


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two parents, mom and dad died on that plane. The son i believe is a scout for the Sox. He is left with no parents and sister.

let that sink in when you make such shitty comments in a thread where people just are mourning 1 of the 9 people.



Why? No one who knew these people are going to see anything said here nor will it have any impact on those who lost the loved ones yesterday. This is just an anonymous message board where people express opinions. Let's not give it more importance than reality dictates


wow
RE: ...  
Jints in Carolina : 1/27/2020 9:18 am : link
In comment 14795060 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Still unreal. It's going to take some time to accept this. Two 13 years old too...

Just heartbreaking.


Yeah man...this is really sad. Those poor families and what they are going through right now.
RE: I am shocked  
cjac : 1/27/2020 9:28 am : link
In comment 14794978 You'reMyBoyBlue!! said:
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By how affected I was by this. Zero fan connection to Kobe in any way and yet I found myself crying multiple times today.

Life is effing crazy.


Because of the kids, for me anyway.
RE: Has there been any comments  
bw in dc : 1/27/2020 9:55 am : link
In comment 14795049 Earl the goat said:
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From Kobe’s parents Joe and Pam
I know they haven’t been on speaking terms


I didn’t know that. That would add another layer of sadness to this.

RE: ...  
Kyle in NY : 1/27/2020 9:56 am : link
In comment 14795060 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Still unreal. It's going to take some time to accept this. Two 13 years old too...

Just heartbreaking.


Hands down, yesterday was the saddest, most shocking day in sports I think I've ever experienced.

Kobe was a larger than life figure. He seemed invincible, this almost doesn't seem possible. You figured we'd be hearing his thoughts on the game for 40 more years

I loved watching his career. He was MJ for a younger generation of players and fans. His post-playing career was fascinating and inspiring, the work he was doing coaching youth basketball and teaching his daughter. It's hard to fathom, it's surreal. 9 lives lost, it's incredibly sad. Damnit
Just a bummer of a day!  
Carson53 : 1/27/2020 11:36 am : link
I have to be honest, I wouldn't call myself a fan of his,
but he was such a great competitor, similar to a Jordan
in that respect. As A Celts fan, watched some great battles. I saw how Doc had trouble speaking yesterday,
and I was moved by that too. I feel for Kobe's young family as well, RIP Kobe and his daughter.
Here are the nine people who died:  
Anakim : 1/27/2020 11:43 am : link
Apparently  
Carson53 : 1/27/2020 11:46 am : link
the guy in the left corner of the photo was a baseball coach in Mass. I heard it on the news here locally.
First it was reported, there were five people, then nine.
Just a sad day!
Three children  
Kyle in NY : 1/27/2020 11:55 am : link
on their way to a basketball game. There are no words for that...
Seeing the faces of those people...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/27/2020 12:14 pm : link
Man. Such a tragedy.
Kyle, yesterday was definitely a  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/27/2020 12:17 pm : link
'Where were you when JFK was shot?' sports event.

I never was a huge fan of his, but I respected his abilities, the time he put into his craft, & his competitiveness.

And he admitted at first he sort of tuned out of basketball post retirement, but that his 13 year old helped bring his love back.
RE: Kyle, yesterday was definitely a  
Kyle in NY : 1/27/2020 12:44 pm : link
In comment 14795323 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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'Where were you when JFK was shot?' sports event.

I never was a huge fan of his, but I respected his abilities, the time he put into his craft, & his competitiveness.

And he admitted at first he sort of tuned out of basketball post retirement, but that his 13 year old helped bring his love back.


Yeah I was a huge fan, I'm 28 so he was a big part of my childhood. You never feel quite the same about your favorite athletes as you do when you're a kid growing up. So yesterday was definitely a punch to the gut thinking back on childhood and the fun times had watching Kobe.

But as you said, you didn't need to be a Kobe/Lakers fan to appreciate and respect him as a player. The dedication he put into basketball and all of his ventures in retirement was really great. He was a bit of a throwback athlete in that way, with that competitive spirit, win at all costs.

Definitely a "where were you when" kind of moment. And to think about his daughter being with him, along with seven others that have heartbroken families and friends mourning them today, it's difficult to even fathom. Such a tragedy. Life is short
It's..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/27/2020 1:01 pm : link
pretty damn difficult to replicate the JFK thing. My parents remember it because they were at school and everything stopped and teachers were crying and a nation mourned.

I think it also depends on how you heard the news. I just got back from the grocery store and my wife told me what the news said. I probably won't remember that 5 years from now. I only remember a few notable deaths anyway, either because of the age i was or the location. For Thurman Munson, WPIX broke in with a special report. I was on the floor in the living room. For the Challenger, I was in a classroom watching live when it happened. When Michael Jackson died, my wife and I were in Munich and it came on the German news. When Whitney Houston died, I was in Hong Kong and an Irish Pub had it on the TV. When Robin Williams died, I was in Fargo, ND at a restaurant where the place gasped when it was announced.

Being at home and not hearing the news first hand, this will likely fade from memory.
Yeah by no means  
Kyle in NY : 1/27/2020 1:09 pm : link
am I comparing it to a President being assassinated. But I think you'd be hard pressed to find a more shocking sports related moment than this one. Before my time, but I imagine this is on a level similar to Thurman Munson. My dad still references that shock level.
And I digress..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/27/2020 1:14 pm : link
but I vividly remember the Challenger explosion and when it happened, some people thought it was a planned thing, like losing a booster engine, but I looked at my teacher, and she knew what had happened and started to panic on how to react. Whether she should shut off the TV or let it play out.

When she turned to the assistant and started whispering, I knew what had happened.
My wife and I were dating when Princess Diana died  
jcn56 : 1/27/2020 1:20 pm : link
she lived in Brooklyn and I was in Queens, she was heading home from our date that night and I was walking back from the grocery store when a neighbor grabbed me, sobbing, and told me that Diana had died.

I don't think she was impressed with my reaction either. Not that I didn't feel bad for her or had anything against her, but I had zero connection. Mildly surprised was about where I'd put my grief level.
RE: Yeah by no means  
Carson53 : 1/27/2020 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14795384 Kyle in NY said:
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am I comparing it to a President being assassinated. But I think you'd be hard pressed to find a more shocking sports related moment than this one. Before my time, but I imagine this is on a level similar to Thurman Munson. My dad still references that shock level.
.

For me personally, Thurman is the worst as it relates to
a sports related death. I have cried a few times over the
years, especially the ten year anniversary of his death.
As I have said before, my favorite Yankee player of all time, that will never change!
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/27/2020 1:28 pm : link
Definitely didn't mean to compare it to JFK obviously, but I will remember where I was when I heard yesterday. Just a 'WTF? Really? No, that's gotta be wrong' moment for me as a sports fan.
So tragic  
crackerjack465 : 1/27/2020 1:30 pm : link
Especially with three children involved. Those poor families. I can't imagine what Vanessa Bryant and the families of the other victims have gone through.

I read through a lot of this thread and it's surprising the varying opinions on this.

Kobe wasn't a perfect person, nobody is. But, he still did a lot of good in this world and inspired a lot of people, whether he inspired you or not. If we decided not to mourn people with imperfections or who have made poor choices in their life, I don't think we would have anyone left to mourn.
RE: ...  
mfsd : 1/27/2020 2:01 pm : link
In comment 14795431 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Definitely didn't mean to compare it to JFK obviously, but I will remember where I was when I heard yesterday. Just a 'WTF? Really? No, that's gotta be wrong' moment for me as a sports fan.


Yup you’re spot on. I was never a huge Kobe fan - didnt dislike him, just didn’t root for him. But I think “larger than life” is an apt description.

I lived in SoCal from 2000-2005, during a big part of the Kobe/Shaq/Jax Lakers era, and the obsession with the Lakers in LA was a whole another level. Laker games, referred to as the “Lake Show” (pretty silly IMO), were an event. Most people I knew out there planned their weeks around watching Laker games during basketball season.

Admittedly, made me hate the Lakers, same way people grew to hate the Yankees, or the Pats of the last 20 years. But also makes me understand the emotions and magnitude of yesterday’s tragedy, and what Kobe meant to so many people. He was a real life superhero to many people.

It would be the equivalent of this happening to Jeter, or Eli, for me as a Yankees/Giants fan. And you’re 100% right, it will always be one of those things where you remember where/how you heard the news.

I also think it’s fair, when contemplating the sum total of his life, to at least reference the Colorado accusation and it’s aftermath. But not on this thread and not yet, IMHO

9 people died tragically, including some kids, that’s the story for now, and it’s an awful one.
Side thing about the JFK assassination ...  
Beezer : 1/27/2020 2:06 pm : link
I wasn't born yet, but my Dad ha started his TV engineering career. I remember his take on that day: "It was great television."

Surreal stuff, this loss.  
Beezer : 1/27/2020 2:10 pm : link
I place it alongside Munson's death. I wasn't a Yankees fan but a close friend was (and since I was a huge baseball fan, I knew what a huge deal this was) - his parents planned their evenings around WPIX telecasts. They were all in. I remember walking into their living room and seeing them staring at the TV.
While tragic and sad for me it is far from highest level of impact  
steve in ky : 1/27/2020 2:21 pm : link
9/11 is head and shoulders above anything else, nothing even remotely close to it. That really shook me.

Challenger still stands out in my mind vividly. I can replay it all in my mind.

And while I was probably too young to feel real grief over, the Robert Kennedy and MLK assassinations were events I knew were enormous and historical that would impact the country.

And while I was even younger the JFK assassination still stand out in my mind to this day, probably even more than with Robert Kennedy and MLK. I can remember watching the funeral procession and events for what felt like days. Of course there wasn't cable and there weren't too many channels and they all seemed to be covering it. But it was just different than anything else and even though I was young it was our president and I could tell everyone was mourning.

For myself, I would put Kobe dying unexpectedly on par with the same level of shock of JFK JR's plane going down.
....  
Route 9 : 1/27/2020 4:58 pm : link
This is big. I'll remember where I was when I heard about Kobe Bryant and his daughter's death until the day I die. I remember where I was for Cory Lidle, as well.

I remember Heath Ledger, Michael Jackson, 9/11, Chris Benoit's interesting story and the day Harambe was killed.
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Route 9 : 1/27/2020 5:00 pm : link
mfsd said:
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In comment 14795431 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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I lived in SoCal from 2000-2005, during a big part of the Kobe/Shaq/Jax Lakers era, and the obsession with the Lakers in LA was a whole another level. Laker games, referred to as the “Lake Show” (pretty silly IMO), were an event. Most people I knew out there planned their weeks around watching Laker games during basketball season.



2000-2005 were my salad years, loved them. This is when there was a point to watching the NBA.
This is incredibly tragic.  
Del Shofner : 1/27/2020 5:06 pm : link
Families and friendships shattered.

Reading various news accounts now that more details are coming out - it's very unfortunate that whoever was making the decision chose to proceed with the flight. It was so foggy that the LAPD actually grounded their entire helicopter fleet, and the Kobe copter had to fly under special protocols with the assistance of ground control. Maybe when they took off, they didn't know what they were going to fly into - I'm sure that will come out from the NTSB.

Just unimaginably terrible in any event.
RE: ....  
Diver_Down : 1/27/2020 5:12 pm : link
In comment 14795767 Route 9 said:
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This is big. I'll remember where I was when I heard about Kobe Bryant and his daughter's death until the day I die. I remember where I was for Cory Lidle, as well.

I remember Heath Ledger, Michael Jackson, 9/11, Chris Benoit's interesting story and the day Harambe was killed.


What was the weather like when Harambe was killed?
RE: This is incredibly tragic.  
PhiPsi125 : 1/27/2020 5:37 pm : link
In comment 14795772 Del Shofner said:
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Families and friendships shattered.

Reading various news accounts now that more details are coming out - it's very unfortunate that whoever was making the decision chose to proceed with the flight. It was so foggy that the LAPD actually grounded their entire helicopter fleet, and the Kobe copter had to fly under special protocols with the assistance of ground control. Maybe when they took off, they didn't know what they were going to fly into - I'm sure that will come out from the NTSB.

Just unimaginably terrible in any event.


Unfortunate that these deaths probably resulted from poor decision making. They had no business flying that day. Just unnecessary.
a perspective of what Kobe means to ROW  
ColHowPepper : 1/27/2020 5:58 pm : link
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1221829317946236930
RE: a perspective of what Kobe means to ROW  
Del Shofner : 1/27/2020 8:11 pm : link
In comment 14795817 ColHowPepper said:
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https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1221829317946236930


That is something.
Still doesn’t feel real  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/27/2020 8:29 pm : link
As someone who was never a huge Kobe fan, this still hurts so much.

In terms of global popularity he is Top 3 all time and probably 2nd. His impact in the Asian market is just ridiculous. There’s an argument to be made he’s more popular than Jordan in Asia. And Kobe’s European background and ability to speak multiple languages always made him a popular player among Europeans. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Kobe had more jerseys in South America than any other NBA player.

He was clearly an iconic athlete. But it was hard to understand how vast his imprint went until this tragedy. I learned of this news from my sister who isn’t a sports fan. She texted me “Did you hear about Kobe” around 3pm yesterday. Anytime you read/hear a question like that, you think the worst. My mother was talking to me about it. As I walked out of Penn Station this morning, I watched dozens of people of all types take pictures of Kobe’s memorial ad in front of the station in NYC aka the other side of the country from where Kobe made his name. And at work, people who I know don’t give a shit about sports were talking to me about this.

There was a tribute to him by the players and fans at the Pro Bowl. There was Tiger Woods in golf talking about Kobe. There was Kyrgios in tennis paying tribute to Kobe by wearing his #8 jersey before his AO match last night with Nadal. There was Neymar in soccer throwing up the 2-4 after he scored a goal. There was every NBA team taking an initial 24 sec violation in honor of him. There was fucking Obama and Trump commenting and paying respect on Twitter.

The word transcendent gets thrown around a lot. But as sad as it fucking is, we found out how transcendent this man was. Despite all his faults, his imprint will be lasting and never forgotten. Legend.
RE: This is incredibly tragic.  
nygiants16 : 1/27/2020 8:36 pm : link
In comment 14795772 Del Shofner said:
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Families and friendships shattered.

Reading various news accounts now that more details are coming out - it's very unfortunate that whoever was making the decision chose to proceed with the flight. It was so foggy that the LAPD actually grounded their entire helicopter fleet, and the Kobe copter had to fly under special protocols with the assistance of ground control. Maybe when they took off, they didn't know what they were going to fly into - I'm sure that will come out from the NTSB.

Just unimaginably terrible in any event.


My guess is the pilot thight they could fly low until they got to the hills and thought the fog would of lifted by the time they got there..

When they got there he tried to go up but lost track or where he was and by the time he decided to try and turn back they were surrounded by hills and he got confused on which way was up and which way was down...
Lakers doing anything?  
Route 9 : 1/28/2020 10:17 pm : link
...
Route9  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/28/2020 11:11 pm : link
Lakers play next vs. Blazers @ home on Friday.

I'm sure they'll do something.
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