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How do you establish your opinions on college players ?

Archer : 1/26/2020 2:40 pm
I am reading that many of us are offering their opinions on players
How do you formulate your opinions?

We have few options with which to evaluate the players

Watching the games live or on videos
Observing televised practices
Formulate an opinion based upon expert analysis
Watching the Combine
Predicting success based upon physical attributes such as size, speed, explosiveness, arm strength etc.

I personally prefer watching games and not relying on others
I enjoy hearing other opinions but I tend to trust what I see

Often what I see is not consistent with other opinions
And many times my perceptions are wrong, but, even the pros and experts are wrong


watch and read what is available  
Torrag : 1/26/2020 2:43 pm : link
Most importantly watch college football games. The good 'football players' stand out just as they do when we watch the Giants games. Try and watch an interview or two as well it can give you a sense of the person and their smarts.
In my case, I formulate my general opinion  
Big Blue '56 : 1/26/2020 2:45 pm : link
on what positions I feel need urgent upgrading. Then after reading reports from people who I trust and respect, I then will opine with, ďif what I have been reading on x player(s) is correct, I would be happy if he were taken.Ē Thatís the best I can do
I don't watch nearly as much college ball as I used to.  
Klaatu : 1/26/2020 3:12 pm : link
So I'm reduced to reading and listening to the opinions of others who do. That's one reason I don't have any strong opinions on whomever the Giants might draft. You do have to filter out a lot of "noise," but there are still plenty of pundits out there now (thanks to the Internet) whom I do respect and whose opinions I value highly.
read what other  
pjcas18 : 1/26/2020 3:13 pm : link
people say and parrot it back as my own commentary like everyone else who is being honest.
I only watch so many games. I'm a Michigan fan  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 1/26/2020 3:26 pm : link
So I watch those games. I watch games against the best opponents to see how certain players step up to the best competition. Someone like Devin Bush...man I wanted him with everything I had with our second pick in round one.
I dont bother anymore  
ron mexico : 1/26/2020 3:34 pm : link
I wait to see them in the pros.
RE: I only watch so many games. I'm a Michigan fan  
barens : 1/26/2020 3:35 pm : link
In comment 14794472 Bold Ruler said:
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So I watch those games. I watch games against the best opponents to see how certain players step up to the best competition. Someone like Devin Bush...man I wanted him with everything I had with our second pick in round one.


I wanted him with the first pick.
What I have learned over the years  
mdthedream : 1/26/2020 3:54 pm : link
not worth putting that much time into the draft. The Giants are going to draft who they want. I still watch the draft and just sit back and relax. I used to buy all the draft books watch videos and all the allstar games only to see us draft a Dline I didn't want or the Giants reach for a player they could have gotten in other rounds. Now I wait for the pick and just read about it online. The last two years have been very interesting seeing where we picked and I for one am glad with both picks.
I watch games, YouTube mockups and the Combine.  
yatqb : 1/26/2020 4:12 pm : link
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Oh, and all star games.  
yatqb : 1/26/2020 4:17 pm : link
Itís valuable to see players against other top players, whether in season or in all star games.
'parrot it back as my own like everyone who is being honest'  
Torrag : 1/26/2020 4:22 pm : link
Your the most condescending poster on BBI.
Me  
Mike in NY : 1/26/2020 4:24 pm : link
I will use sources I like to narrow down a list of players I want to see then catch as much as I can. I will DVR combine so I can watch at my convenience if I remember.
I really just go with the flow - I learned a long time ago that no  
PatersonPlank : 1/26/2020 4:36 pm : link
matter what I do my opinion will pale to that of a professional scout. So I read the scouting reports, watch some games and basically get my opinion on a number of players from that. However in the end I usually just root for the guy the Giants pick. What I do is more root for a position than a player, and by that I mean filling weaknesses in the picks for the first 3 or 4 rounds.
I strictly confine  
crick n NC : 1/26/2020 4:36 pm : link
My analysis to box scores. Can't go wrong 👍
Really enjoy following...  
bw in dc : 1/26/2020 4:46 pm : link
high school recruiting - have a friend in the business - and watching the college game in general. Been a hobby for a while actually.

Do a lot of reading, before and during the season, and watching video. And when I decide to watch a game, I'll make sure I know who the likely NFL prospects are and hone in on them.
Not an expert  
Chocco : 1/26/2020 5:41 pm : link
But I like to keep a mental note of players that show up big in big games (rivalry, conf. champs,bowl games)
I Watch YouTube Highlights Videos...  
Jim in Tampa : 1/26/2020 5:42 pm : link
And tell everyone that I reviewed all the game tapes.

Then I write the names of the players that I like on a piece of paper and refer to it as my draft board.
Sy,  
flycatcher : 1/26/2020 6:36 pm : link
and by watching the combine.
Personally  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 6:40 pm : link
It's from watching games and keying in on specific players. I also pay attention to the Combine.


I follow lots of "draft experts," but I won't base my opinion on their takes.
RE: 'parrot it back as my own like everyone who is being honest'  
pjcas18 : 1/26/2020 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14794566 Torrag said:
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Your the most condescending poster on BBI.


*you're*
I try to do..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/26/2020 6:59 pm : link
it from the rare times I see players live. Unfortunately, my skills in evaluating college players seemingly suck.
RE: RE: 'parrot it back as my own like everyone who is being honest'  
Anakim : 1/26/2020 7:01 pm : link
In comment 14794716 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14794566 Torrag said:


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Your the most condescending poster on BBI.



*you're*



And you're a fan of a French-Canadian team, too!
I usually just key in on the guys that are mocked to us  
Prude : 1/26/2020 7:15 pm : link
Watch some game tape and obviously their conbine. Hated Flowers, fell in full bloom love with Daniel Jones. This year I want Becton by any means necessary.
*you're*  
Torrag : 1/26/2020 7:29 pm : link
Douchebag pride FTW! /kudos
RE: *you're*  
Joey in VA : 1/26/2020 7:58 pm : link
In comment 14794770 Torrag said:
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Douchebag pride FTW! /kudos
He's good at English, you're not, it's not anything to call him names over you big dummy.
RE: *you're*  
Joey in VA : 1/26/2020 8:10 pm : link
In comment 14794770 Torrag said:
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Douchebag pride FTW! /kudos
I'm poking fun at both of you btw, I hope you're not taking this seriously.
I listen to  
Reb8thVA : 1/26/2020 8:16 pm : link
Anak
It's  
Bradshaw's Decal : 1/26/2020 9:13 pm : link
He speaks English goodly, right?
I learned a while ago.  
Giant John : 1/26/2020 9:30 pm : link
You canít study all the players that are good. I already have a full time job.
I flip a coin  
dan518 : 1/26/2020 10:19 pm : link
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I read one or two BBI threads about someone  
mattnyg05 : 1/26/2020 10:45 pm : link
at a position I would like the giants to draft (usually linebacker every year), watch one YouTube video and pretend to be an expert until Sy knocks said player down a notch when his rankings come out.

Iím not a big college football fan but I used to read EVERY single draft magazine before the internet made them moot. Didnít help my case at all though.
I watch college games every now and then,  
BlueLou'sBack : 1/27/2020 12:41 am : link
watched lots a couple of years ago (hence the strong conviction about Barkley). When a particular player catches my interest I look for and watch "whole game tape" of said player.

I don't pretend to know many players, and frankly think most - even the expert pundits or perhaps especially them - lie like hell about the breadth and depth of their knowledge.

So I stick to watching a few guys who catch my interest, and try to follow up on those guys.

Recently I've looked at two guys, the obious one Andrew Thomas and the dark horse WR Quintez Cephous of Wisconsin.

I often like a dark horse type that the league finds undraftable.

We all kid ourselves and the pundits do too re the mental makeup of prospects - which is a huge part of NFL success.

Opinions  
Archer : 1/27/2020 8:49 am : link
In addition to the eye test I do rely a lot on personal reccomendations.

I am fortunate to have long time friends who are somehow related to the draft process.

I have friends who played collegiate football.
They were not good enough to play at the next level, but, they still remained involved in football.

Two are coaches, both in college and the pros, one is a very accomplished agent, another is an orthopedic doctor for for an NFL team, and another is a well known draft analyst.

I do take everything that they say with a grain of salt as they all have some agendas. But they do turn me onto players who I have never heard of.

I watch more college football than NFL on a weekly basis  
JonC : 1/27/2020 9:15 am : link
usually 8+ games on the DVR, which the girlfriend always laughs at. With repetition each year you get a feel for the prospects, and whom NYG might prefer. Having played a lot of football growing up, it's easier to understand what you're seeing, how to compare prospects, and how to project it to the NFL versus players.
I pretty much  
Dnew15 : 1/27/2020 10:59 am : link
think what Sy tells me to think b/c I don't have time to watch college football.

I'm usually sitting at soccer or baseball field watching my kids play sports.
I look back on the Matt in Syracuse days with fondness  
Del Shofner : 1/27/2020 11:04 am : link
and wait for another genius of his caliber to appear on BBI.
RE: I look back on the Matt in Syracuse days with fondness  
Mike in NY : 1/27/2020 11:11 am : link
In comment 14795240 Del Shofner said:
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and wait for another genius of his caliber to appear on BBI.


Shurron Pierson is going to be a stud. Book it!
I read  
Rolyrock : 1/28/2020 7:34 am : link
A lot. Then when you wat h the NFL you see who panned out or not. It adds enjoyment for me.
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