Yesterday’s Super Bowl convinced me that if we have a chance to draft Jeff Okudah, do it.....even if it means Chase Young is available.
A great OT will take out Young in a big game, and chances are, a team you play in the SB Will have great tackles. Just like last night, you hardly even heard Bosa’s name being called. He had little effect on the outcome of the game.
However, a great shutdown CB who can take out the opposing best WR is clearly much more invaluable. If SF had a guy like Okudah to cover THill, do you think Hill would have been all by himself 50 yards down the field like he was last night on that huge 3rd and 15 play? I don’t think so.
Bottom line: the Great CB is important and has an impact on every passing Down. The EDGE rusher may have an impact on 1-2 plays (sacks) although if you count hurries, depending on how close he was to sacking the qb, that number may increase a bit. Even still, I’d much rather have a guy who gives me a chance to marginalize the opponents best passing weapon on every passing play. His name is JEFF OKUDAH. I’m hoping Detroit gets stupid and trades out to some team who wants a qb.
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Hey bw......does this make you feel better that the Giants were not interested in SELAH? I know several guys here were promoting his name. I couldn’t understand why...his resume didn’t just stand out to me. How about you?
I'm good with Judge over Salah - for sure.
The more I reflect on the coaching process, I hope we didn't miss out on Bieniemy. I watched a few interviews with him the last few weeks - stuff he did for the Super Bowl run up - and I was very impressed.
Plus, and this really stands out to me, is the Andy Reid coaching tree. It's very impressive with SB winners in John Harbaugh and Doug Pederson. Sean McDermott is doing very good work in Buffalo. Nagy is doing pretty well in Chicago. And Rivera was under Reid for a while...
Of course, Shurmur is also part of the Reid Tree. But I consider him an outlier... ;)
It makes me wonder, actually, if Jints Central may have held the Shurmur experience against Bienemy to a degree. Sort of the "been there, done that" reaction...
I too liked what I read of Bieniemy but I don’t understand how he said he would bring along Brady to be his OC. That seemed odd. The rap on Bieniemy as you probably know is that Reid still calls the plays.
As much as I liked B.....I LOVE JUDGE and I will take Garrett as my OC and be happy.
I doubt any of those guys will come out and identify themselves after that Miami meltdown.
But how about Okudah v Simmons or a Tackle. This scenario could easily take place, especially if either Lions take a qb or the Lions trade out to a team who wants a qb.
Does a great LB (although some feel he is a tweener) Trump a great CB?
Does a great tackle Trump a great CB?
Thoughts?
But how about Okudah v Simmons or a Tackle. This scenario could easily take place, especially if either Lions take a qb or the Lions trade out to a team who wants a qb.
Does a great LB (although some feel he is a tweener) Trump a great CB?
Does a great tackle Trump a great CB?
Thoughts?
My main thought at this point is that you are immature and a very poor listener, or you would have abandoned this thread if not outright deleted it.
I will not enable your post any further. /out
Spags didn't work out - true.
Bowles was with the Jets. Do we have to elaborate beyond that?
Frazier didn't work out either - true.
But you are not going to have a 100% hit/success rate...
With Shurmur, there was a case to be made that his prior HC experience was in Cleveland, where coaches go to die. So I could see the Giants thinking a second bite of the apple might work, especially after he did such a good job as an OC.
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Leaving Young out....I know everyone prefers Young over anyone and believes the great EDGE rusher trumps a great CB.
But how about Okudah v Simmons or a Tackle. This scenario could easily take place, especially if either Lions take a qb or the Lions trade out to a team who wants a qb.
Does a great LB (although some feel he is a tweener) Trump a great CB?
Does a great tackle Trump a great CB?
Thoughts?
My main thought at this point is that you are immature and a very poor listener, or you would have abandoned this thread if not outright deleted it.
I will not enable your post any further. /out
Thank you for the contributions you added to this thread. I’m sorry to see you go. Maybe you will like my next thread...or maybe not.
"They didn't mention Bosa much on the telecast I was watching, so he didn't have an impact on the game, and SF lost, so clearly he was terrible"
But this is even richer:
If you don't know shit about watching a game and don't know shit about prospects, what the fuck is there to discuss? Like I said above - bailing on this thread was the best course and you've quadrupled down on the idiocy.
A few teams from the pass had that. Think the Eagles years ago.
A few teams from the pass had that. Think the Eagles years ago.
I can’t argue with that.
We did have Golden, who I believe had 10 sacks this year, which is one more than Nick Bosa had if you want a comparison. Hopefully we resign Golden as well as pick up another EDGE RUSHER to compliment him. I think we may have a better chance picking a quality edge up in Free agency than we do the draft if we go LB, tackle one two.
Of course, if Detroit doesn’t take Okudah for whatever reason at 3, we will have a choice to take Okudah or anyone else. This will show us how the Giants feel about having a shutdown corner vs anyone else. Remember, we were told BAKER was a shutdown corner too...that no one scored a TD against him in 2-3 years or something like that. I’m not sure what great CBs will be available during FA, not having looked at that list yet.