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Lombardo: Mara not going to be patient with Gettleman

montanagiant : 2/5/2020 5:11 pm
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Really interesting  
Ron Hussler : 2/5/2020 5:12 pm : link
Thanks for the info
RE: Really interesting  
robbieballs2003 : 2/5/2020 5:13 pm : link
In comment 14804264 Ron Hussler said:
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Thanks for the info


Lmao
Don't know why the image is not showing up  
montanagiant : 2/5/2020 5:13 pm : link


When I preview it shows up link is below
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RE: Really interesting  
montanagiant : 2/5/2020 5:14 pm : link
In comment 14804264 Ron Hussler said:
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Thanks for the info

Have patience ronnie boy
Wow,  
Mad Mike : 2/5/2020 5:14 pm : link
quite a curveball.
Here's the source article for the tweet  
FranknWeezer : 2/5/2020 5:15 pm : link
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why keep him around then  
bigblue12 : 2/5/2020 5:15 pm : link
so they fire him and bring in someone who doesn't get to pick his own coach?
Thats actually quite shocking  
Ron Hussler : 2/5/2020 5:15 pm : link
Never saw that coming
Gettleman with a ton of cap money  
Oscar : 2/5/2020 5:16 pm : link
Working to save his job. What could go wrong?
RE: Here's the source article for the tweet  
montanagiant : 2/5/2020 5:16 pm : link
In comment 14804272 FranknWeezer said:
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Thanks Frank
If they fire DG after letting him draft #4 and spending all the cash  
Jim in Forest Hills : 2/5/2020 5:18 pm : link
they truly are idiots.
Seems like Geoff Schwartz is always quick to toss his hat in the ring  
FranknWeezer : 2/5/2020 5:19 pm : link
for a damning quote or two against the Giants. Since, you know, he gave so much to the team and got so little in return...

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“They stuck to their old ways of doing things at a time when football is changing,” former Giants offensive guard Geoff Schwartz said. “It just feels like they don’t have a plan. It’s hard when things are going really well to decide that you need to do something much different.”
Seriously why even bring him back then ?  
Giantfan21 : 2/5/2020 5:19 pm : link
He is going to be making moves with tons of cap space to save his job instead of doing whats best for the long term benefit of the team . He has done a terrible job since coming here .

And the worst part is once he is fired , a new GM is going to have judge forced on him as his coach whether he wants him or not . Mara is so clueless
Gettleman Should Have Been Fired  
Ron Hussler : 2/5/2020 5:20 pm : link
After giving up a 3rd round draft choice for a slightly above average sack of potatos
I'm guessing Gettleman got a job over Lombardo  
bceagle05 : 2/5/2020 5:20 pm : link
at some point in their careers. Gettleman deserves plenty of criticism, but it's bordering on obsession with this clown.
RE: why keep him around then  
bw in dc : 2/5/2020 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14804273 bigblue12 said:
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so they fire him and bring in someone who doesn't get to pick his own coach?


Perfectly said.

Judge is a first time HC at any level. Zero leadership experience at the highest level. And we have a roster full of holes. So expecting very much in 2020 is firmly in the wishful thinking zone...

So thinking we are going to vastly improve with an extra year of Gettleman's wildly inconsistent and unpredictable management is ludicrous...
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BleedBlue : 2/5/2020 5:25 pm : link
we have NO IDEA if this is true or not and probably wont ever sooooo can we stop with the "wow they are idiots for not firing him right away" or "why let him spend all our money in FA this year then"

PLEASE lets just wait and let it play out
RE: Seems like Geoff Schwartz is always quick to toss his hat in the ring  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/5/2020 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14804280 FranknWeezer said:
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for a damning quote or two against the Giants. Since, you know, he gave so much to the team and got so little in return...







He lost his career because of injuries suffered playing for the Giants. He never played another NFL game or made a roster.
This toolbag has been consistently wrong reporting on the Giants  
Torrag : 2/5/2020 5:27 pm : link
He has no credibility.
That article was ridiculous.  
Klaatu : 2/5/2020 5:28 pm : link
Nothing but the author's opinion presented as fact. Slater has absolutely no idea how Mara feels about Gettleman, nor does he have any idea how patient Mara will be with him.
So Mara calls other team executives after they beat our ass  
FranknWeezer : 2/5/2020 5:29 pm : link
and asks them to explain how it happened? And and an in-conference competitor, at that? SMH.

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And when things are going wrong, Mara likes to consult executives for teams the Giants just played, like Packers president Mark Murphy last season. Mara sometimes appreciates a fresh set of eyes, so he can figure out: Am I missing something?
Mara  
Les in TO : 2/5/2020 5:29 pm : link
Basically said this at the PC firing PS
...  
christian : 2/5/2020 5:31 pm : link
Hmmmm ... where did we hear this shit before?
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Thanks Montana  
5BowlsSoon : 2/5/2020 5:33 pm : link
That is just what I want to hear (or read). This is his 3rd year....make or break time.....
Again, it is immeasurably stupid  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/5/2020 5:41 pm : link
To have a short leash on a GM when you just hired a new coach and spent a month building a staff. The next GM will want his own coach.

This is where the "they dont appear to have a plan" criticism comes from.
And everyone wants to beat on me for being negative on the team...  
Default : 2/5/2020 5:41 pm : link
Another year, another win or else ultimatum.
Wonder if the results will be any different?
I am more concerned about Mara’s inner circle  
Rick in Dallas : 2/5/2020 5:42 pm : link
And their ability to turn this franchise around. Slater from NJ.Com has written that Mara leans on his brother and nephew for advice. Chris Mara and Tim McDonnell. If so, I am really troubled by the front office folks getting this done.
So if we go 5-11 or 6-10, which is a very real possibility  
The_Boss : 2/5/2020 5:43 pm : link
DG is gone and any new GM has to agree with inheriting Judge?

I’m not buying it. That’s very Jet like.

I think DG has 2 years. If this isn’t a winning program by 2021, enough is enough with this cocksucker. It shouldn’t take more than 4 years if you have a fucking plan and a clue.
RE: Gettleman with a ton of cap money  
widmerseyebrow : 2/5/2020 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14804275 Oscar said:
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Working to save his job. What could go wrong?


Worked out for Steve Mills and the Knicks!
Yeah, good idea  
Mr. Bungle : 2/5/2020 5:44 pm : link
to potentially get rid of the GM after a rookie head coach completes his first season, and then look for a GM who's got to agree to retain Judge if he wants the job.

Why is this shit so difficult for Mara?
Yeah you hear that Dave  
ghost718 : 2/5/2020 5:44 pm : link
Steve Stoute is just a phone call away
RE: Seems like Geoff Schwartz is always quick to toss his hat in the ring  
jcn56 : 2/5/2020 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14804280 FranknWeezer said:
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for a damning quote or two against the Giants. Since, you know, he gave so much to the team and got so little in return...



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“They stuck to their old ways of doing things at a time when football is changing,” former Giants offensive guard Geoff Schwartz said. “It just feels like they don’t have a plan. It’s hard when things are going really well to decide that you need to do something much different.”



I've said this before when he was pro-Gettleman, and I'll said it now that he's knocking them - don't listen to Geoff Schwartz. He's just a Twitter troll with an NFL resume (and not an extensive one either).
Jerry Reese became the GM after Ernie Accorsi retired...  
Klaatu : 2/5/2020 5:48 pm : link
And kept Tom Coughlin as Head Coach. If Gettleman "retires" after the 2020 season, odds are that he'll be replaced by Kevin Abrams, who will no doubt keep Joe Judge as Head Coach.
He's back because  
jvm52106 : 2/5/2020 5:52 pm : link
we are well into our 2020 draft prep-even at the end of 2019 and his draft record is pretty good. Plus, I suspect he is planning to retire soon anyway and if he can lay a good foundation then a smooth transition it will be. If not, he is gone.

This draft and FA will be a defining moment for the Giants. Jones and Barkley are on board, Slayton, Lawrence, Baker, Xman, Love all show promise.

This draft could be our 1989 draft (assuming a trade down or mix in FA into that mix) and fill a lot of holes quickly.
RE: Again, it is immeasurably stupid  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 2/5/2020 5:55 pm : link
In comment 14804306 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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To have a short leash on a GM when you just hired a new coach and spent a month building a staff. The next GM will want his own coach.

This is where the "they dont appear to have a plan" criticism comes from.


Not if the head coach picks the next GM.
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christian : 2/5/2020 5:56 pm : link
Gettleman isn't going anywhere. Mara defended him up and down and clear as day endorsed him.

Mara thinks Gettleman is doing well and thinks he has a solid plan.
I Dont believe anything  
Manning10 : 2/5/2020 5:56 pm : link
Lombardo says! He and Leonard are the two biggest trolls
Of Gettleman in the media.
They most likely post on BBI anonymously.
If Any Piece  
lax counsel : 2/5/2020 5:58 pm : link
Of this is true, than what you have is a coach who will likely be forced on a new GM. That is dysfunctional. I am not as concerned about DG as much as I am about the people running this franchise.
Feels like Bullshit  
David B. : 2/5/2020 6:02 pm : link
To me
twins separated at birth  
Ron from Ninerland : 2/5/2020 6:04 pm : link

I would  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/5/2020 6:04 pm : link
take this with a grain of salt. NJ.com has really gone down hill in recent years.
This seems more like speculation that anything  
steve in ky : 2/5/2020 6:26 pm : link
I read the article and didn’t see any quotes from JM saying this
How can anyone deny this from the article?  
bw in dc : 2/5/2020 6:31 pm : link
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He trusts advisers he has known for years, too — like his brother, Chris, the Giants’ senior vice president of player personnel; and his nephew, Tim McDonnell, the team’s assistant director of player personnel. Mara highly respects McDonnell’s talent evaluating skills.

Mara still bounces ideas off Accorsi and former NFL GM Bill Polian: What do you see? What do you think we’re doing wrong?


Mara is a loyalist through and through; and he's still too naive to realize that the last two SBs were more good fortunate than those teams being on the cusp on long term success...
on = of  
bw in dc : 2/5/2020 6:31 pm : link
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What a sorry state our beat writers have become.  
3putt : 2/5/2020 6:34 pm : link
BTW, if this is true and DG is fired after a bad year, what happened to all those posters who thought we should let the coach approve the GM. Matt Rhule could do that but not JJ.
RE: ...  
Les in TO : 2/5/2020 6:39 pm : link
In comment 14804328 christian said:
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Gettleman isn't going anywhere. Mara defended him up and down and clear as day endorsed him.

Mara thinks Gettleman is doing well and thinks he has a solid plan.
Mara gave him a qualified endorsement- he mentioned misses on personnel and that Dave knows that we need to start winning. So, not so sure he survives another 4-5 win season. 7 wins and up he probably buys another year.
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christian : 2/5/2020 6:43 pm : link
In comment 14804366 Les in TO said:
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In comment 14804328 christian said:


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Gettleman isn't going anywhere. Mara defended him up and down and clear as day endorsed him.

Mara thinks Gettleman is doing well and thinks he has a solid plan.

Mara gave him a qualified endorsement- he mentioned misses on personnel and that Dave knows that we need to start winning. So, not so sure he survives another 4-5 win season. 7 wins and up he probably buys another year.


The Giants have brand new head coach, new defensive system, new offensive system, potentially 3 new starters on the o-line, a 2nd year QB, presumably several new defensive starters, a secondary with a number of 2nd year players -- 7 wins (+3 from this year) will be a huge success.
I'm waiting for Gettlemen to really screw up this offseason  
micky : 2/5/2020 6:48 pm : link
Then, back to square one again. Should've rid him along with Shurmur. Merry-go-round will continue
Regardless of whether DG should or should not be GM  
mfsd : 2/5/2020 6:56 pm : link
this smells of typical offseason clickbait. How the fuck would these guys know what Mara is thinking?
Anything's possible, but ask yourself what Lombardo's track record is  
Ira : 2/5/2020 6:56 pm : link
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