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| He said the Cowboys have been trying to get a deal done with Prescott since last off season. The two sides came close to deal in September on a contract that would have paid him roughly $33 million annually, sources said, before talks broke down when Prescott upped his asking price. “I don’t want to get into the details, but we have offered him significant money,” Jones said. “The money we have offered Dak no matter how you look at it would put him as a top five quarterback in the NFL. That is the way we feel about him. He is one of the best.” According to sources, Prescott is looking for a deal that would pay him as much or more than Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson, who is the league’s highest-paid player at $35 million annually. The rest of the top five consists of four other quarterbacks — Pittsburgh Steelers’ Ben Roethlisberger at $34 million, Los Angeles Rams’ Jared Goff and Green Bay Packers’ Aaron Rodgers at $33.5 million and Philadelphia Eagles’ Carson Wentz at $32 million. |
Meh, I doubt he throws 30 ints if on Dallas. He wouldn't have to throw as much, most importantly. He is still better than Dak, who is a better than average game manager. It was pretty obvious last year that Dak is not the answer. Is he competent, yes like Kirk Cousins and Alex Smith. I like Dak, but Winston is just better even with his flaws. I hope the Cowboys spend $35 mill plus per year on him and tie up big $$ on a guy that probably doesn't get them to the Super Bowl.
Prescott is more mobile and has double the rushing TD’d than Winston.
I know the Cowboys have a better OL than most teams but I don’t think Cowboys would win a SB with Winston ever. He would certainly turn it over in high pressure situations in playoff games.
Cowboys in tough situation as they have made their bed with Dak.
I think he gets a top 5 QB contract with a huge guarantee.
They have I think a 3 year window to win a SB as that OL is getting older especially Smith.
They don’t want to start over with a new QB now . I think Dak is in the driver’s seat on these negotiations.
Let’s see if Jerry blinks again.
I’m all for not lying Dak if it was my money, but I wouldn’t turn around and give it to Winston. I’d rather go with a rookie/game manager vet combo and mitigate risk while building a foundation. Winston is a team killer.
Also where does anybody think Winston is going to get 1/3 of what Dak gets? The Bucs paid him 21 million this past year. The Bucs don't really have many options at QB so they'll most likely tag him (franchise/transition)
As far as a Dak v winston debate I'll simply point out two key statistical differences. Dak's TD/INT ratio of 30TD/11INT. So there is elite production with over a 3:1 TD/INT ratio v. a 1:1 turnover ratio for jameis. Prescott's Completion percentage of 65.8% vs 61.3 for winston is also a clear advantage in his favor. That's equates to a lot of third down conversions.
If you understand and appreciate the impact turnovers and 3rd down conversions have on the results you should understand why the statement that winston gives you similar performance is a joke. Winston is essentially responsible for two turnovers a game before the opening kickoff. Arians comment on his QB situation... 'if we can win with this guy, we can with with someone else' says it all.
They aren't comparable players.
Great support for your argument. If you would have presented this POV without the insult initially, don’t think they would have come after you.
Tampa has never had the same caliber team or offensive identity that Dallas has had during Dak’s tenure. Why don’t you try thinking a little bit instead of regurgitating stats.
I’m not a Winston fan but we’re talking about making Dak the highest paid QB in the game. That’s a huge mistake.
You want to criticize a team I would be jumping all over the Rams for Goffs ridiculous contract.
Winston is an alternative to Dak if you choose not to sign him. Saying don’t sign Dak doesn’t mean much if there isn’t a backup plan at QB.
I don’t see much of a difference between the two in the same situation. So Winston at a substantially cheaper cost makes more sense.
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Paying Dak top dollar and being a bad mistake has nothing to do with Winston also being a bad QB. Both are true and I really don’t know what your argument (inserting Winston) is about.
Winston is an alternative to Dak if you choose not to sign him. Saying don’t sign Dak doesn’t mean much if there isn’t a backup plan at QB.
I don’t see much of a difference between the two in the same situation. So Winston at a substantially cheaper cost makes more sense.
Winston isn't going to be much cheaper. His salary and cap hit will be somewhere 24.3-26.8 million for 2020.
LOL stop it. Marcus Mariota fucking sucks. He's nowhere near Dak. Yeah I think Dak is overrated, but some of you on here are out of your mind with what you think of Dak.
He's got a 40-24 career record. He's completing 65.8% of his passes for 15,778 yards with 97 TDs and 36 INTs. He also has 1221 rushing yards and 21 rushing TDs.
He's definitely not a top 5 QB, but you guys are comparing him to QBs who aren't even in the top 20 in the NFL.
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Paying Dak top dollar and being a bad mistake has nothing to do with Winston also being a bad QB. Both are true and I really don’t know what your argument (inserting Winston) is about.
Winston is an alternative to Dak if you choose not to sign him. Saying don’t sign Dak doesn’t mean much if there isn’t a backup plan at QB.
I don’t see much of a difference between the two in the same situation. So Winston at a substantially cheaper cost makes more sense.
Sure it does. Don’t sign Dak.
And the plan should be also don’t sign Winston, plenty of other options.
1) What are the odds this info from JJ is little more than posturing to put pressure on Dak to sign whatever deal is/was on the table? This is from the Dallas FO side, right? Doesn't sound like it's Dak's people announcing the deal they turned down...
2) Understandably everyone is citing stats to down play alternative QBs like Winston, but the elephant that just left the room, Eli Manning, had pretty bad stats re things like turnovers, completion %, TD/INTS ratio, but just left the game as the highest paid player ever over his career. What people AREN'T ACKNOWLEDGING about Dak is his leadership skills which many compare favorably with Eli.
He's a face of the franchise, first guy in, last guy out type of worker, who's earned tremendous respect from teammates and coaches and media alike. Not exactly parallel with Jameis, eh?
Paying him top 5 money is prolly well deserved, and he has proven traits that aren't easily replaced, and Jerry knows that.
OTOH, he's not gonna get paid more than Russel Wilson, that's just silly. I doubt his people are pushing that.
But I just wouldn’t want to be the team to reward him. Some guys are worth that “next in line as new highest paid at the position” contract but he isn’t one of them,
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Paying Dak top dollar and being a bad mistake has nothing to do with Winston also being a bad QB. Both are true and I really don’t know what your argument (inserting Winston) is about.
Winston is an alternative to Dak if you choose not to sign him. Saying don’t sign Dak doesn’t mean much if there isn’t a backup plan at QB.
I don’t see much of a difference between the two in the same situation. So Winston at a substantially cheaper cost makes more sense.
Sure it does. Don’t sign Dak.
And the plan should be also don’t sign Winston, plenty of other options.
Who are the “plenty of other options?”
It’s Rivers (looking to a Florida team), Bridgewater, Marriotta (sucks), and Winston.
Or it’s go into the draft with nothing and hope Fromm lasts.
So basically it’s sign Dak or hope Bridgewater doesn’t re-sign in NO or Winston.
They can sign a vet and draft a QB to develop with a day 2 pick. They can make a play for Brady on a 1 or 2 year deal. They can put all their eggs in a Bridgewater or Rivers or take a flier on Tannehill, since their offense can be just like Tennessee’s.
There aren’t endless options but there are enough where handing out that contract to Dak should give them great pause (and it clearly is).
They can sign a vet and draft a QB to develop with a day 2 pick. They can make a play for Brady on a 1 or 2 year deal. They can put all their eggs in a Bridgewater or Rivers or take a flier on Tannehill, since their offense can be just like Tennessee’s.
There aren’t endless options but there are enough where handing out that contract to Dak should give them great pause (and it clearly is).
You’re just throwing out shit that isn’t viable. Tenn isn’t letting Tannehill walk. I already covered Rivers. Brady is a 1 year player and pipe dream at best. The other “sign a vet” options are low level backup players.
So again, it really comes down to signing Dak or giving starting QB money to Bridgewater or Winston.
And no that’s not what it comes down to. They may also draft a rookie again. They may franchise Dak (he probably doesn’t sign but that’s another discussion). They may do a combination of two of these options.
All better than paying Winston.