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February 9, 2020 New York Giants Salary Cap Snapshot

Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/9/2020 12:26 pm
FYI...


February 9, 2020 New York Giants Salary Cap Snapshot - ( New Window )
Thanks.  
AcidTest : 2/9/2020 12:49 pm : link
You say "2017 Rollover Cap." I assume that should be 2019.
No June 1st cap cut designations this year  
Des51 : 2/9/2020 12:50 pm : link
Barring a new collective bargaining agreement in place, there will be no June 1st cap designation for this season.
Christ, those top 15 salaries  
j_rud : 2/9/2020 1:10 pm : link
I dont hate Gettleman. But I also dont know how you look at him, the recent FA track record, and 60 million in cap space (likely more after the coming weeks) and not get a little worried.
RE: Christ, those top 15 salaries  
Klaatu : 2/9/2020 1:52 pm : link
In comment 14807276 j_rud said:
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I dont hate Gettleman. But I also dont know how you look at him, the recent FA track record, and 60 million in cap space (likely more after the coming weeks) and not get a little worried.


I'm not a little worried. I'm a lot worried.
So if Iím reading it right  
90.Cal : 2/9/2020 1:57 pm : link
We have 61 million and we can expect to make another 25 million in cap space once they cut Ogletree, Martin, Ellison, Bethea, Tanney etc but that is probably going to be reserved for the draft .... so we will still have AT LEAST $60 MILLION to sign, re-sign and possibly extend guys this offseason.
$31 million  
XBRONX : 2/9/2020 1:57 pm : link
between Solder and Zeitler. Think about their quality of play last year or lack there of.
RE: $31 million  
section125 : 2/9/2020 2:54 pm : link
In comment 14807292 XBRONX said:
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between Solder and Zeitler. Think about their quality of play last year or lack there of.


Zeitler was the 6th raked guard by PFF(FWIW) and the best FA signing as in another thread.

Solder is another story, but until they get his replacement he has to stay.
RE: Thanks.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/9/2020 2:56 pm : link
In comment 14807260 AcidTest said:
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You say "2017 Rollover Cap." I assume that should be 2019.


Thanks for catching that!
RE: So if Iím reading it right  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/9/2020 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14807291 90.Cal said:
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We have 61 million and we can expect to make another 25 million in cap space once they cut Ogletree, Martin, Ellison, Bethea, Tanney etc but that is probably going to be reserved for the draft .... so we will still have AT LEAST $60 MILLION to sign, re-sign and possibly extend guys this offseason.


We will have a ton of cap space, but we still need to flesh out the 90-man roster too. This obviously doesn't include any of our unsigned free agents we still want to re-sign.
Iíd definitely clear out  
twostepgiants : 2/9/2020 3:01 pm : link
Ogletree, Martin, Tanney & Bethea and create another 12-13 mil in space
our  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/9/2020 3:01 pm : link
dead cap space situation would have been fantastic had it not been for the crap with Jenkins.
Good  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/9/2020 3:09 pm : link
news too is that other than Leonard Williams and Markus Golden, we don't have any potential expensive guys who we would want to re-sign.
Tis the season to be thrifty  
section125 : 2/9/2020 3:46 pm : link
and wait for good deals while building in the draft.
I think the Giants need to add FS, Oline  
Simms11 : 2/9/2020 4:42 pm : link
CB and LBer in Free Agency. Thatís going to use up available cap pretty quickly, let alone resigning Williams and possibly Golden.
Some of our highest cap numbers  
Mike from SI : 2/9/2020 4:56 pm : link
are just god-awful players. (Or, mediocre at best, to be more fair.) That's a big reason this team is atrocious.
Well, we will likely overpay L. Williams since we easily have the $$$  
SGMen : 2/9/2020 7:02 pm : link
I say he settles for $14 million a year.
LT N. Solder may take a pay cut to stay but we can't cut him and really "save" enough to warrant his replacement.
LB Ogletree, LB Martin, FS Bethea and TE Ellison are "locks" to be cut at those salaries.

I think backups like OC Pulley remain on the roster but only because again cutting them doesn't guarantee a better backup is available.

Overall, we are in good shape.
As much as Gettleman worries me now  
Joey in VA : 2/9/2020 7:06 pm : link
This still isn't his fault totally. This team should consist of drafted players who are led by those in the league 5-7 years, established and effective pro players. So we have 2020 coming up which means you should have guys from 2013 on as the core of your team and your high picks should be the stars and dependable veteran players. Let's examine those years...

2013-
Justin Pugh - Medicore, oft injured, whiny player, not re-signed and he's in AZ remaining mediocre. He should be a core of our OL.

Jon Hankins and DaMontre Moore were our 2 and 3, they should be core DT and DE contributors and they are elsewhere doing very little well.

2014-
Odell Beckham...we know the story. He should be our #1 WR and a game changer but his injuries have piled up and he's still a child and he's in Cleveland. Do we have anything to show for him? Yes, Jabrill Peppers, Dexter Lawrence and Oshane Ximines. So we got two young defenders who start and one w/ some potential.

Richburg - See Justin Pugh, he should be our starting center and an anchor of the OL but he was also not retained and he's so so in San Fran. So replaceable that his loss didn't cost the 49ers one bit of success.

Jay Bromley - Ugh, should be a core interior defender drafted that high, he's in the XFL.

2015
FLowers, Collins and Owa. Should be, a franchise LT, a core SS and DE. All let go or not re-signed.

2016
Eli Apple - A weird apple, not a bad one but not a very good player and drafted 10th overall he SHOULD be a very good starting veteran CB for us and he's a mediocre one in New Orleans.

Sterling Shepard - OMG he's still here!

Darian Thompson - Drafted in the 3rd he SHOULD be a starting vet FS for us, but he's pretty middling it in Dallas.

2017
Engram, Tomlinson both starters, good ones and a wasted 3rd round pick on Davis Webb.

2018
Barkley - Debated hotly and will be but he's a great starting RB and a keeper

Will Hernandez - Shaky second season, has talent, has drive, hopefully plays better with better coaching and more experience

Lo Carter - See Hernandez, he's still a pup and hopefully the 3rd year he sees the light but so far just a so so OLB.

2019
Daniel Jones - Thank the GOds I was wrong, we have a potential franchise QB

Dexter Lawrence - Slowed down as the year progressed, but a cement block VS the run and a core DL defender.

DeAndre Baker - Starting CB on a horrid defense, showed improvement and I'm actually confident he'll be ok

Oshane Ximines - We'll see, ,he's young, gifted pass rusher, horrible vs the run but should be a contributor on 3rd downs.

So we SHOULD have the following, and I realize not every pick pans out but best case this is the team we SHOULD have had had we scouted, drafted and developed well.

LT Ereck Flowers
OC Weston Richburg
RT Justin Pugh
WR Odell Beckham jr

DE Owa Odigiwhatever
DE DaMontre Moore
SS Landon Collins
FS Darian Thompson
DT Jay Bromley
DT Jon Hankins
CB Eli Apple

That is 11 core starters that should be the backbone of this team right now. Add in Jones, Barkley, Lawrence, Baker, Will Hernandez, Lorenzo Carter to that veteran group and we're competitive. Add in Gettleman acquired players in Jabrill Peppers, Kevin Zeitler and we have a pretty good OL, a young dynamic QB/RB combo with Darius Slayton added in. That's a good solid core of players but we've literally jettisoned all of those guys. The cupboard is pretty bare.
RE: Good  
Ben in Tampa : 2/9/2020 7:41 pm : link
In comment 14807326 Eric from BBI said:
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news too is that other than Leonard Williams and Markus Golden, we don't have any potential expensive guys who we would want to re-sign.


But we should extend Tomlinson this off season instead of waiting to do it next year
Plain and simple  
djm : 2/9/2020 8:30 pm : link
Weíre in good shape IF the last two-thee draft classes are the goods and we have good off-seasons going forward. Weíve seen plenty of flashes from these classes but not enough yet. Thereís no question the financial flexibility is there but that only takes you so far. Gotta with these players. Gotta hit with judge. I just pray the great first impression from judge isnít a mirage or fake story. Every time we get our hopes up the giants inevitably shit the bed.
RE: RE: Good  
Klaatu : 2/9/2020 10:32 pm : link
In comment 14807518 Ben in Tampa said:
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In comment 14807326 Eric from BBI said:


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news too is that other than Leonard Williams and Markus Golden, we don't have any potential expensive guys who we would want to re-sign.



But we should extend Tomlinson this off season instead of waiting to do it next year


Do you also want to sign Leonard Williams? Because if you do, you're also going to have to give Tomlinson comparable money. You're going to tie up a big part of your cap on two DT's who offer very little as pass-rushers.
2015 draft was the real disaster. For the other years, things just  
Ivan15 : 2/10/2020 12:19 am : link
didnít work out due to attitude, injuries and some bad luck.
RE: Good  
M.S. : 2/10/2020 6:17 am : link
In comment 14807326 Eric from BBI said:
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news too is that other than Leonard Williams and Markus Golden, we don't have any potential expensive guys who we would want to re-sign.

Always a sign of a strong team!

(:-(
RE: So if Iím reading it right  
Bruner4329 : 2/10/2020 10:51 am : link
In comment 14807291 90.Cal said:
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We have 61 million and we can expect to make another 25 million in cap space once they cut Ogletree, Martin, Ellison, Bethea, Tanney etc but that is probably going to be reserved for the draft .... so we will still have AT LEAST $60 MILLION to sign, re-sign and possibly extend guys this offseason.


$25 million reserved for the draft? Most teams need between $6 to $8 million to sign their picks. Where are you getting this from?
Cap for Draft  
ZogZerg : 2/10/2020 11:55 am : link
I thought I read that the Giants need around 14 million based on draft picks.

Also, DG indicated that he wanted to have a decent reserve to handle in season moves. 25 million sounds about right for those things. Maybe a little more.
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