Much better deal for the Sox this time ugh
“ Deals coming together. #Dodgers in agreement with #MNTwins, pending medical review - Maeda and cash would go to MIN for Graterol and another prospect. Other elements perhaps. Meanwhile, per @JeffPassan, LAD and #RedSox in agreement on Betts and Price for Verdugo-Jeter Downs-plus.
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I don’t know how good Downs is, but it seems to me he could be expendable seeing the Dodgers have Seager and Lux who can play SS.
I don’t know how good Downs is, but it seems to me he could be expendable seeing the Dodgers have Seager and Lux who can play SS.
I suspect he will soon be our starting second baseman
2 teamer. Dodgers trading Maeda still to Twins for Graterol and the 67th pick in the draft. Graterol staying with Dodgers.
The Dodgers will send Maeda and cash to Twinkies for that
minor league pitcher with the supposed medical issues.
In the short term, what if Betts leaves as a free agent,
and they don't win the WS? Did they clean up then?
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for the Red Sox if Graterol really is injured, but if he's not holy shit the Dodgers cleaned up even with adding Downs and Wong.
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In the short term, what if Betts leaves as a free agent,
and they don't win the WS? Did they clean up then?
Of course if Betts leaves after one year it's worse for them.
As it stands now, they grt a full year of one of the best players in baseball, a 50% salary for 3 years of at worst a solid starting pitcher, a comp pick and the Twins #3 prospect
for:
their #4 prospect (Downs), a prospect credibly accused in a sexual assault scandal (Verdugo), their #28 prospect (Wong) and Maeda.
Even if Betts leaves, it makes them NL favorites for 2020 and doesn't empty the cupboard of prospects. Plus they have a captive audience to extend Betts.
No matter how you look at this its a great trade for the Dodgers. Yes, it was probably better a couple days ago, but if Graterol pans out, it's a wash probably.
Mookie Betts is top 5 best player in baseball.
Half of Price's salary is paid by the Red Sox. So the Dodgers pay $16M per year the next three years for Price which isn't terrible for a 3.62 FIP pitcher.
then the Dodgers get back Graterol who is roughly similar in prospect status to Downs plus Wong.
It basically cost the Dodgers Verdugo for Betts and Price (at half Price's salary).
Mookie Betts is top 5 best player in baseball.
Half of Price's salary is paid by the Red Sox. So the Dodgers pay $16M per year the next three years for Price which isn't terrible for a 3.62 FIP pitcher.
then the Dodgers get back Graterol who is roughly similar in prospect status to Downs plus Wong.
It basically cost the Dodgers Verdugo for Betts and Price (at half Price's salary).
You forgot Adrian Gonzalez, basically the Sox got rid of two 100 mill. contracts at the time.
Of course, the Dodgers just had a new ownership group take over, and were trying to make a splash...
They threw the Sox a life boat preserver back then, I was pissed as a Yanks fan.
After reading up on Gaterol, I agree with you pj, Dodgers seem to have a better deal because, health permitting, Gaterol looks to at least be a solid bullpen guy, so that seems to me to add another possible very good player.
I hear the Dodgers subsequently withdrew from the Angels trade since the Red Sox trade was not as originally intended. So Joc Pederson and Stripling are still Dodgers for now. They don’t need Stripling but Joc can still hit. The guy they were getting from angels was a nobody.
Connor Wong is an unusual kind of utility player because he can catch well enough to do it on more than an emergency basis, but he can move to other positions, including second or third base, both of which he’s played a little bit so far in the minors. He’s power over hit right now, with swing-and-miss a real problem for him going back to his time at the University of Houston, but as the 26th man on a major-league roster, he could be quite valuable for his ability to back up at least three positions — and there’s no reason he couldn’t play the corner outfield spots — or even to serve as a regular catcher on a bad team.
So now Boston ends up with its new No. 1 prospect in Downs, a useful utility prospect in Wong and a solid everyday right fielder in Alex Verdugo. Verdugo, as I wrote the other day, is probably an average regular in right field now, with his ability to hit for average, plus defense in left (and the arm for right) and eventually enough power for 60-plus extra-base hits, although I think he’s more of a doubles power guy than a home-run power guy even at his peak. That might get him to about 4 WAR, which isn’t Mookie territory, but Boston has him for five more years plus the other two players. Given my skepticism about Graterol’s ability to start, given his delivery and time missed with a shoulder issue in 2019, this feels like a much better outcome for the Sox, even if losing Mookie Betts was enough to ruin their summah.”
Nothing they got can sniff what Betts gave them and every Sox fan should demand a refund on any 2020 tickets.