Paintball guns don't recoil and you're not intoxicated by adrenaline when you're shooting them. And you can easily adjust your shots, since you can see your rounds fly through the air. But I still came away impressed by how a seemingly average person can lead their target.
I do think people overestimate the accuracy the general person would or should have with a hand gun,
Sure but on the other hand, I once did paint ball with a bunch of colleagues when I worked at a non profit for a fairly liberal cause. You could safely assume than only 1 or 2 of the 30 of us had ever fired or touched a real gun (I was one of them). And yet, I quickly learned that hiding behind a tree or darting from one to the next didn't nearly the amount of cover or safety as the movies made it seem. Amateur hippie women in their 50's were repeatedly pelting me with Martin Riggs-like efficiency.
LMAO...I have to admit I experience the same thing. People who couldn't shoot to save their lives were nailing me from 100' out
the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!
the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!
One that hasn't been mentioned before... The Kingdom with Jamie Foxx, Jennifer Garner, Jason Bateman. The last 30 minutes or so... crazy good shootout.
the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!
I remember it, just absurd.
Yes, but I will always maintain that beginning to end, Commando is one of the most entertaining movies of my life. If it's on, I switch to it and never have any regrets.
the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!
I like to think they were hitting him, they just couldn't penetrate him.
the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!
I like to think they were hitting him, they just couldn't penetrate him.
The best was when he aimed at the guy in the tower and his gun was pointed towards the door but the dude 3 stories up somehow got killed. Also what kind of Camo was that he had on...LOL. It was like a couple of strips here and there
Hitmen William Conrad and Charles McGraw enter a restaurant intent on murdering Edmond O'Brien, who's eating dinner there. But O'Brien and Sam Levene are ready for them.
the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!
I’d have to say, the final shootout in Cobra was on par with Commando. Stallone takes out an army of about 200 psychos with one machine gun.
I read some of the background thinking behind the film.
The vast vast majority of gunfights were drunken endless wild shots in dark places. Often the guys that "won" simply had more guns or bullets and shot last.
Quick draw based duels were only a small percentage compared to the alcohol blinded brawls
Commando and Cobra are two films that do not hold up - Commando b/c of its laughable special effects, and Cobra b/c it was hastily edited into a mess of a film.
Commando and Cobra are two films that do not hold up - Commando b/c of its laughable special effects, and Cobra b/c it was hastily edited into a mess of a film.
but at least from my experience, I would go with the confusing pandemonium during the final raid in Zero Dark Thirty as the most realistic, especially when all of the SEALs end up in that one room waiting to go up the stairs to get UBL.
And while not realistic at all (and a crummy movie to boot), I would also put the chaotic nature of the scene from Battle: Los Angeles when the squad of Marines get ambushed as they start walking down the street as the most realistic reaction scene. How they have no clue where the shots are coming from and everyone is just yelling is pretty realistic in terms of the utter chaos of first contact with an enemy (just ignore the fact that these are aliens...replace them with humans) First contact - ( New Window )
RE: I would go with Heat based on just the sheer awesoness of it... Â
but at least from my experience, I would go with the confusing pandemonium during the final raid in Zero Dark Thirty as the most realistic, especially when all of the SEALs end up in that one room waiting to go up the stairs to get UBL.
And while not realistic at all (and a crummy movie to boot), I would also put the chaotic nature of the scene from Battle: Los Angeles when the squad of Marines get ambushed as they start walking down the street as the most realistic reaction scene. How they have no clue where the shots are coming from and everyone is just yelling is pretty realistic in terms of the utter chaos of first contact with an enemy (just ignore the fact that these are aliens...replace them with humans) First contact - ( New Window )
By the way...I saw the North Hollywood shootout back in 1997 live on TV, and the sheer devastation that two people could cause against dozens of police officers is reminiscent of the shootout in Heat. So I wouldn't say that the shootout in Heat is totally unrealistic, especially when one side has automatic weapons while the other side does not. North Hollywood Shootout - ( New Window )
Commando and Cobra are two films that do not hold up - Commando b/c of its laughable special effects, and Cobra b/c it was hastily edited into a mess of a film.
Strangely, Cobra stands out to me bc the bad guy was genuinely scary...at least, when I first saw it at about 13 or 14.
Commando was simply the most absurd of all the Arnold vehicles of the era...which in a way is why a lot of us still think of it fondly.
And yes, we were joking about them as realistic in any way
I can't decide which is more realistic and which is more racist...
Sudden Impact
Dirty Harry
I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but I met Albert Popwell, the actor playing the bank robber who Clint asks if he feels lucky, several times when I was a kid. He used to live in the apartment across the hall from my aunt in NYC. He had small parts in most of the Dirty Harry movies (and a few other Eastwood movies like Coogan's Bluff). Real nice guy.
He was in all the Dirty Harry movies except the Dead Pool Â
He was one of the bank robbers in Dirty Harry, the pimp in Magnum Force, the black radical leader in The Enforcer, and Harry's detective buddy in Sudden Impact.
RE: hah...well, I will of course defer to your expertise in these matters Â
I will continue to say, though, that the weapons handling in Heat was very good, regardless of how realistic (or not) the shootout itself was.
I love that movie so damned much.
The thing that people never truly appreciate when watching any kind of a movie with shootouts/firefights is just how chaotic and confusing the entire thing is. Even the most well trained special operations teams get into firefights that devolve into a lot of rounds being put down range with most becoming suppressive fire more than anything. We've gotten so enamored with the myth of our special operators being these efficient killers, but they're just as prone to confusion and chaos (just in a more violent and controlled manner than your regular infantry).
That's why the Zero Dark Thirty scene at the end and the Battle: Los Angeles scene in the beginning are pretty realistic on how confusing everything gets.
RE: He was in all the Dirty Harry movies except the Dead Pool Â
He was one of the bank robbers in Dirty Harry, the pimp in Magnum Force, the black radical leader in The Enforcer, and Harry's detective buddy in Sudden Impact.
Yup, that was "Popi," as we called him back then. He was filming a movie in Australia when The Dead Pool began production. I always get a kick out of seeing him play a bad guy, thug, whatever on the big screen, because that was so unlike him in real life.
the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!
I nominate this "awesome ballet of death"... The Gunfighter - ( New Window )
hat was really well done and funny.
Cool story about Nick Offerman. My daughter and two other kids were in charge of setting up bringing in comedians, bands, lecturer's performers..etc.. For Kansas State University.
She and I are huge Parks & Rec fans and I love Offerman character. She contacts his people and he comes down there for a show. He was such a nice guy he hung out with the 3 of them for about 90 mins prior to his show singing and telling stories. The best part? For Christmas that year I got a framed Playbill of his show signed by him saying "Eat Meat".
or just really cool shootouts at this point? Seems like most people remember the really cool ones more so than the realistic ones although what is really considered realistic other than most shots never hitting their targets?
Hahaha winner
The Smell of Fear - ( New Window )
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I do think people overestimate the accuracy the general person would or should have with a hand gun,
Sure but on the other hand, I once did paint ball with a bunch of colleagues when I worked at a non profit for a fairly liberal cause. You could safely assume than only 1 or 2 of the 30 of us had ever fired or touched a real gun (I was one of them). And yet, I quickly learned that hiding behind a tree or darting from one to the next didn't nearly the amount of cover or safety as the movies made it seem. Amateur hippie women in their 50's were repeatedly pelting me with Martin Riggs-like efficiency.
LMAO...I have to admit I experience the same thing. People who couldn't shoot to save their lives were nailing me from 100' out
I would have been in traction carrying that 600 lb log
I remember it, just absurd.
LOL...OJ putting together the semi-tank is hilarious
I don't know, you have over 10 dudes with machineguns vs 2 guys with a pistol
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the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!
I remember it, just absurd.
Yes, but I will always maintain that beginning to end, Commando is one of the most entertaining movies of my life. If it's on, I switch to it and never have any regrets.
I like to think they were hitting him, they just couldn't penetrate him.
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the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!
I like to think they were hitting him, they just couldn't penetrate him.
The best was when he aimed at the guy in the tower and his gun was pointed towards the door but the dude 3 stories up somehow got killed. Also what kind of Camo was that he had on...LOL. It was like a couple of strips here and there
Hank (unarmed) vs two men in bullet proof vests - ( New Window )
Short but sweet.
The Gunfighter - ( New Window )
Heat - great choice
I'm guessing the front end of Saving Private Ryan
I'm guessing the front end of Saving Private Ryan
Normandy Beach assault in Saving Private Ryan - my old man WW2 and some Nam Vets I know said this was so real they had flash backs..
I’d have to say, the final shootout in Cobra was on par with Commando. Stallone takes out an army of about 200 psychos with one machine gun.
The vast vast majority of gunfights were drunken endless wild shots in dark places. Often the guys that "won" simply had more guns or bullets and shot last.
Quick draw based duels were only a small percentage compared to the alcohol blinded brawls
We were joking about those films.
And while not realistic at all (and a crummy movie to boot), I would also put the chaotic nature of the scene from Battle: Los Angeles when the squad of Marines get ambushed as they start walking down the street as the most realistic reaction scene. How they have no clue where the shots are coming from and everyone is just yelling is pretty realistic in terms of the utter chaos of first contact with an enemy (just ignore the fact that these are aliens...replace them with humans)
First contact - ( New Window )
And while not realistic at all (and a crummy movie to boot), I would also put the chaotic nature of the scene from Battle: Los Angeles when the squad of Marines get ambushed as they start walking down the street as the most realistic reaction scene. How they have no clue where the shots are coming from and everyone is just yelling is pretty realistic in terms of the utter chaos of first contact with an enemy (just ignore the fact that these are aliens...replace them with humans) First contact - ( New Window )
By the way...I saw the North Hollywood shootout back in 1997 live on TV, and the sheer devastation that two people could cause against dozens of police officers is reminiscent of the shootout in Heat. So I wouldn't say that the shootout in Heat is totally unrealistic, especially when one side has automatic weapons while the other side does not.
North Hollywood Shootout - ( New Window )
Well...then it proves that Heat scene is realistic in a weird way.
Strangely, Cobra stands out to me bc the bad guy was genuinely scary...at least, when I first saw it at about 13 or 14.
Commando was simply the most absurd of all the Arnold vehicles of the era...which in a way is why a lot of us still think of it fondly.
And yes, we were joking about them as realistic in any way
Sudden Impact
Dirty Harry
I love that movie so damned much.
Sudden Impact
Dirty Harry
Can't comment on the realism of Dirty Harry without props to Dirty Larry...
"Do 50 bullets in your ass make your day?" - ( New Window )
Sudden Impact
Dirty Harry
I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but I met Albert Popwell, the actor playing the bank robber who Clint asks if he feels lucky, several times when I was a kid. He used to live in the apartment across the hall from my aunt in NYC. He had small parts in most of the Dirty Harry movies (and a few other Eastwood movies like Coogan's Bluff). Real nice guy.
I love that movie so damned much.
The thing that people never truly appreciate when watching any kind of a movie with shootouts/firefights is just how chaotic and confusing the entire thing is. Even the most well trained special operations teams get into firefights that devolve into a lot of rounds being put down range with most becoming suppressive fire more than anything. We've gotten so enamored with the myth of our special operators being these efficient killers, but they're just as prone to confusion and chaos (just in a more violent and controlled manner than your regular infantry).
That's why the Zero Dark Thirty scene at the end and the Battle: Los Angeles scene in the beginning are pretty realistic on how confusing everything gets.
Yup, that was "Popi," as we called him back then. He was filming a movie in Australia when The Dead Pool began production. I always get a kick out of seeing him play a bad guy, thug, whatever on the big screen, because that was so unlike him in real life.
You've just described 95% of the movie Desperado.
Link - ( New Window )
hat was really well done and funny.
Cool story about Nick Offerman. My daughter and two other kids were in charge of setting up bringing in comedians, bands, lecturer's performers..etc.. For Kansas State University.
She and I are huge Parks & Rec fans and I love Offerman character. She contacts his people and he comes down there for a show. He was such a nice guy he hung out with the 3 of them for about 90 mins prior to his show singing and telling stories. The best part? For Christmas that year I got a framed Playbill of his show signed by him saying "Eat Meat".