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NFT: Movies with the best realistic shootouts

montanagiant : 2/9/2020 6:53 pm
My favorites:
Taxi Driver
Open Range
The way of the gun
True Romance
John Wick!  
UConn4523 : 2/9/2020 6:59 pm : link
just kidding. I’d have to think more on this but I’m guessing some of the better made war movies like some of the scenes in Saving Private Ryan are fairly realistic.
Got a couple  
UConn4523 : 2/9/2020 7:01 pm : link
the raid in Zero Dark Thirty. Some of the stuff in Sicario (the first one).
.  
Banks : 2/9/2020 7:02 pm : link
Having never been a gunslinger, my opinion is useless. However, I appreciated the toned down, but still badass ending in Unforgiven
Faceoff  
robbieballs2003 : 2/9/2020 7:02 pm : link
Oh, you said realistic. I thought you said stand in front of each other and continually miss.
Heat  
eric2425ny : 2/9/2020 7:03 pm : link
Bank robbery scene. Mic drop
RE: John Wick!  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14807467 UConn4523 said:
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just kidding. I’d have to think more on this but I’m guessing some of the better made war movies like some of the scenes in Saving Private Ryan are fairly realistic.

This came to me because I just watched Taxi Driver...What an amazing shootout scene near end of that movie. Especially when Dinaro gets shot in the neck
RE: Heat  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 7:05 pm : link
In comment 14807476 eric2425ny said:
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Bank robbery scene. Mic drop

Excellent choice
Hostiles  
Motley Two : 2/9/2020 7:08 pm : link
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I thought the shoot out at the end of  
MBavaro : 2/9/2020 7:13 pm : link
El Dorado was pretty realistic. They both fired multiple shots at each other while 20 or so feet away and missed a bunch until Jesse finally connected.

Shooting a hand gun at someone, while being shot at, is ridiculously hard to do accurately
I mean El Camino  
MBavaro : 2/9/2020 7:14 pm : link
JFC.....
RE: I mean El Camino  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 7:16 pm : link
In comment 14807490 MBavaro said:
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JFC.....

LOL
Heat  
ATL_Giants : 2/9/2020 7:17 pm : link
That shoot out scene was used by the military as an example of weapons handling.
RE: Got a couple  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 7:17 pm : link
In comment 14807471 UConn4523 said:
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the raid in Zero Dark Thirty. Some of the stuff in Sicario (the first one).

Yeah Zero Dark Thirty was a good one
JFK  
BlueinRoch : 2/9/2020 7:18 pm : link
What? Too soon?
RE: Heat  
Mark from Jersey : 2/9/2020 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14807476 eric2425ny said:
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Bank robbery scene. Mic drop
I had to scroll down wwwwwwaaaaayyyyyyy too much to see this.

Its Heat Bank Robbery Scene at #1 no close second as far as realism goes...they actually used live rounds in the shoot too (no slugs in the bullets, obviously).
None  
theking : 2/9/2020 7:20 pm : link
I’ve been in one as a cop. Nothing catches the feeling. It’s like slow motion . 12 seconds feels like 10 minutes..
I thought the end of...  
bw in dc : 2/9/2020 7:23 pm : link
"The Town", when they are inside and outside of Fenway, was a good effort...

Speaking of cops  
UConn4523 : 2/9/2020 7:23 pm : link
End of Watch comes to mind. Ayer and the cast did a ton of tactical training to prepare for the movie.
Pale Rider  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/9/2020 7:24 pm : link
Where half the guys shit nthedir pants as soon as the shooting starts

I have a lot of friends who have been ion some hairy situations NOTHING like TV from what ive been told ever
Tombstone  
since1925 : 2/9/2020 7:27 pm : link
The actual gunfight the OK Corral last 30 seconds with 30 shots fired.

The movie Tombstone has a fight sequence that shows about a minute of firing and close to 70 shots. Which if you take out all the nonsense about Ike Clanton (grabbing Earp them going into the building next store etc...) the scene is a pretty good representation of what happened.
gunfight. - ( New Window )
Wild bunch?  
weeg in the bronx : 2/9/2020 7:28 pm : link
Been awhile since I saw it but I recall a violent large scale shoot out where stars die.
Well, taken literally  
Jim in Fairfax : 2/9/2020 7:33 pm : link
The Crow
RE: Well, taken literally  
eric2425ny : 2/9/2020 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14807514 Jim in Fairfax said:
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The Crow


That was actually one of the best shootout scenes I have seen. So sad he died during that.
RE: I thought the end of...  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 7:49 pm : link
In comment 14807505 bw in dc said:
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"The Town", when they are inside and outside of Fenway, was a good effort...

Good one. One of my favorite movies
RE: Tombstone  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 7:50 pm : link
In comment 14807511 since1925 said:
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The actual gunfight the OK Corral last 30 seconds with 30 shots fired.

The movie Tombstone has a fight sequence that shows about a minute of firing and close to 70 shots. Which if you take out all the nonsense about Ike Clanton (grabbing Earp them going into the building next store etc...) the scene is a pretty good representation of what happened. gunfight. - ( New Window )

Yeah it is amazing how in the heat of things how many bullets miss
True romance  
pjcas18 : 2/9/2020 7:55 pm : link
is realistic? Like in the hotel room?

I do think people overestimate the accuracy the general person would or should have with a hand gun, even at seemingly short distances, but realistic doesn't come to mind with that shootout scene.

I think the most realistic scenes I've seen are movies like American History X or New Jack City where someone comes and puts the gun right to someone else's head.

Road to Perdition  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 7:56 pm : link
Some good ones in an often underlooked movie
RE: RE: Heat  
mfsd : 2/9/2020 8:11 pm : link
In comment 14807502 Mark from Jersey said:
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In comment 14807476 eric2425ny said:


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Bank robbery scene. Mic drop

I had to scroll down wwwwwwaaaaayyyyyyy too much to see this.

Its Heat Bank Robbery Scene at #1 no close second as far as realism goes...they actually used live rounds in the shoot too (no slugs in the bullets, obviously).


Seriously. Nothing I’ve seen compares to Heat.

In some of the behind the scenes interviews out there, the actors talk about going through military training in tactics and use of weapons to prepare for that scene, with live ammo
RE: Road to Perdition  
j_rud : 2/9/2020 8:12 pm : link
In comment 14807536 montanagiant said:
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Some good ones in an often underlooked movie


That was a great movie, really underappreciated IMO. So many excellent scenes. Hanks and Newman at the piano, the introduction of Jude Law's character, Hanks and son at the diner "negotiating" the sons cut. And of course relevant to this thread, the shootout in the rain. "I'm glad its you..." That was a damn good movie.
Always felt the landing on Saving Private Ryan  
George from PA : 2/9/2020 8:12 pm : link
Was realistic
Unforgiven seemed very realistic as well  
George from PA : 2/9/2020 8:14 pm : link
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The Shootist seemed very realistic  
carpoon : 2/9/2020 8:14 pm : link
to me.
RE: Faceoff  
DCGMan : 2/9/2020 8:14 pm : link
In comment 14807474 robbieballs2003 said:
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Oh, you said realistic. I thought you said stand in front of each other and continually miss.


Have to post this O&A classic. Jimmy was dead on.

“Movie stunk. Bunch a doves.”
Jim Norton Changes Patrice’s Mind - ( New Window )
Hollywood shootout scenes  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 2/9/2020 8:26 pm : link
are too choreographed and stylized. Thought Kurosawa depicted fighting more realistically in many of his movies, hectic, chaotic, kind of clumsy.
RE: None  
ktinsc : 2/9/2020 8:31 pm : link
In comment 14807503 theking said:
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I’ve been in one as a cop. Nothing catches the feeling. It’s like slow motion . 12 seconds feels like 10 minutes..


Amazing how many posts just blew this one off. If you could include the auditory and olfactory input you might get close. Cinematic reproduction may be entertaining but it is not ever "realistic."

Thanks King.
RE: RE: Faceoff  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 8:51 pm : link
In comment 14807554 DCGMan said:
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In comment 14807474 robbieballs2003 said:


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Oh, you said realistic. I thought you said stand in front of each other and continually miss.



Have to post this O&A classic. Jimmy was dead on.

“Movie stunk. Bunch a doves.” Jim Norton Changes Patrice’s Mind - ( New Window )

I so miss that Radio
show
RE: RE: Road to Perdition  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14807549 j_rud said:
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In comment 14807536 montanagiant said:


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Some good ones in an often underlooked movie



That was a great movie, really underappreciated IMO. So many excellent scenes. Hanks and Newman at the piano, the introduction of Jude Law's character, Hanks and son at the diner "negotiating" the sons cut. And of course relevant to this thread, the shootout in the rain. "I'm glad its you..." That was a damn good movie.

So overlooked with a bunch of great actors ad a really interesting story
SAS commando Andy McNab was the weapons advisor on Heat  
Greg from LI : 2/9/2020 9:23 pm : link
And he trained them very well. DeNiro and Kilmer executed some flawless reloads under fire
RE: Got a couple  
Eric on Li : 2/9/2020 9:36 pm : link
In comment 14807471 UConn4523 said:
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the raid in Zero Dark Thirty. Some of the stuff in Sicario (the first one).


2 good calls. First Sicario border crossing scene is a great under the radar choice. The first 2 acts of that movie were great.

Zero Dark Thirty was also a great all around movie and very well done.

Heat has been mentioned and that's a classic but I wouldn't consider it realistic.

No country for old men had some real good ones.

Killer - 2009  
Daniel in Kentucky : 2/9/2020 9:37 pm : link
Or a crime films by John Woo
Link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: Faceoff  
DCGMan : 2/9/2020 9:54 pm : link
In comment 14807598 montanagiant said:
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In comment 14807554 DCGMan said:


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In comment 14807474 robbieballs2003 said:
Same but I miss Patrice even more.

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Oh, you said realistic. I thought you said stand in front of each other and continually miss.



Have to post this O&A classic. Jimmy was dead on.

“Movie stunk. Bunch a doves.” Jim Norton Changes Patrice’s Mind - ( New Window )


I so miss that Radio
show
RE: SAS commando Andy McNab was the weapons advisor on Heat  
RobCarpenter : 2/9/2020 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14807637 Greg from LI said:
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And he trained them very well. DeNiro and Kilmer executed some flawless reloads under fire


In the DVD documentary Val Kilmer talked about how the military will show that scene to train the military.

From the link:

Legend has it that Val Kilmer took to the training so well that the shot of him laying down fire in multiple directions and reloading his weapon (without the scene cutting) has been shown at Fort Bragg as a part of training for American Green Berets. Marines training at MCRD San Diego have also been shown this firefight from "Heat" as a depiction of how to effectively retreat under fire.
Link - ( New Window )
The thing with John Wick that I do like is  
NY-Fan : 2/9/2020 10:17 pm : link
They reload all the time & grab other guns. Can’t stand when shootouts never run out of bullets.
RE: The thing with John Wick that I do like is  
j_rud : 2/9/2020 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14807675 NY-Fan said:
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They reload all the time & grab other guns. Can’t stand when shootouts never run out of bullets.


Cant remember where i came across it but awhile back i saw a 15-20 minute "making of" feature on tactical aspects of John Wick. They use a technique (system? Not sure what you would call it tbh) called center axis relock thats apparently popular with law enforcement.
RE: True romance  
santacruzom : 2/9/2020 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14807533 pjcas18 said:
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I do think people overestimate the accuracy the general person would or should have with a hand gun,


Sure but on the other hand, I once did paint ball with a bunch of colleagues when I worked at a non profit for a fairly liberal cause. You could safely assume than only 1 or 2 of the 30 of us had ever fired or touched a real gun (I was one of them). And yet, I quickly learned that hiding behind a tree or darting from one to the next didn't nearly the amount of cover or safety as the movies made it seem. Amateur hippie women in their 50's were repeatedly pelting me with Martin Riggs-like efficiency.
Easy  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/9/2020 10:26 pm : link
Police Squad...


Now obviously  
santacruzom : 2/9/2020 10:28 pm : link
Paintball guns don't recoil and you're not intoxicated by adrenaline when you're shooting them. And you can easily adjust your shots, since you can see your rounds fly through the air. But I still came away impressed by how a seemingly average person can lead their target.
second choice  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/9/2020 10:29 pm : link
RE: Easy  
mfsd : 2/9/2020 10:30 pm : link
In comment 14807680 Eric from BBI said:
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Police Squad...




Hahaha winner
Here you go...  
Milton : 2/9/2020 10:30 pm : link
It's realistic because he runs out of bullets and has to switch guns.
The Smell of Fear - ( New Window )
RE: RE: True romance  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 11:01 pm : link
In comment 14807679 santacruzom said:
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I do think people overestimate the accuracy the general person would or should have with a hand gun,




Sure but on the other hand, I once did paint ball with a bunch of colleagues when I worked at a non profit for a fairly liberal cause. You could safely assume than only 1 or 2 of the 30 of us had ever fired or touched a real gun (I was one of them). And yet, I quickly learned that hiding behind a tree or darting from one to the next didn't nearly the amount of cover or safety as the movies made it seem. Amateur hippie women in their 50's were repeatedly pelting me with Martin Riggs-like efficiency.

LMAO...I have to admit I experience the same thing. People who couldn't shoot to save their lives were nailing me from 100' out
RE: second choice  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 11:02 pm : link
In comment 14807682 Eric from BBI said:
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I would have been in traction carrying that 600 lb log
montanagiant  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/9/2020 11:03 pm : link
the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!
RE: montanagiant  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 11:09 pm : link
In comment 14807698 Eric from BBI said:
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the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!

I remember it, just absurd.
RE: Here you go...  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 11:11 pm : link
In comment 14807684 Milton said:
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It's realistic because he runs out of bullets and has to switch guns. The Smell of Fear - ( New Window )

LOL...OJ putting together the semi-tank is hilarious
RE: Killer - 2009  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 11:13 pm : link
In comment 14807648 Daniel in Kentucky said:
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Or a crime films by John Woo Link - ( New Window )

I don't know, you have over 10 dudes with machineguns vs 2 guys with a pistol
As mentioned before, Heat  
RomanWH : 2/9/2020 11:36 pm : link
One that hasn't been mentioned before... The Kingdom with Jamie Foxx, Jennifer Garner, Jason Bateman. The last 30 minutes or so... crazy good shootout.
RE: RE: montanagiant  
santacruzom : 2/9/2020 11:40 pm : link
In comment 14807701 montanagiant said:
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In comment 14807698 Eric from BBI said:


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the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!


I remember it, just absurd.


Yes, but I will always maintain that beginning to end, Commando is one of the most entertaining movies of my life. If it's on, I switch to it and never have any regrets.
RE: montanagiant  
Motley Two : 2/9/2020 11:45 pm : link
In comment 14807698 Eric from BBI said:
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the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!


I like to think they were hitting him, they just couldn't penetrate him.
One of the worst was the Rundown  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 11:48 pm : link
Outside of the final scene the movie was funny and was entertaining. Then you have the Rock fighting off an army without a weapon for half of it
RE: RE: montanagiant  
montanagiant : 2/9/2020 11:52 pm : link
In comment 14807733 Motley Two said:
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In comment 14807698 Eric from BBI said:


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the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!



I like to think they were hitting him, they just couldn't penetrate him.

The best was when he aimed at the guy in the tower and his gun was pointed towards the door but the dude 3 stories up somehow got killed. Also what kind of Camo was that he had on...LOL. It was like a couple of strips here and there
I'm not sure about how realistic it is...  
Milton : 2/10/2020 12:10 am : link
But my favorite shootout of all time is from a TV show, not the movies. Spoiler alert if you haven't gotten past season three of Breaking Bad.
Hank (unarmed) vs two men in bullet proof vests - ( New Window )
The Killers (1946)  
Klaatu : 2/10/2020 5:51 am : link
Hitmen William Conrad and Charles McGraw enter a restaurant intent on murdering Edmond O'Brien, who's eating dinner there. But O'Brien and Sam Levene are ready for them.

Short but sweet.
As far as short films go...  
Milton : 2/10/2020 6:03 am : link
I nominate this "awesome ballet of death"...
The Gunfighter - ( New Window )
Act of Valor -  
section125 : 2/10/2020 6:38 am : link
they actually used live rounds...

Heat - great choice

Fully agree  
Bill2 : 2/10/2020 6:50 am : link
On Heat.

I'm guessing the front end of Saving Private Ryan
RE: Fully agree  
section125 : 2/10/2020 7:10 am : link
In comment 14807763 Bill2 said:
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On Heat.

I'm guessing the front end of Saving Private Ryan


Normandy Beach assault in Saving Private Ryan - my old man WW2 and some Nam Vets I know said this was so real they had flash backs..
RE: montanagiant  
mfsd : 2/10/2020 7:12 am : link
In comment 14807698 Eric from BBI said:
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the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!


I’d have to say, the final shootout in Cobra was on par with Commando. Stallone takes out an army of about 200 psychos with one machine gun.
Unforgiven  
Bill2 : 2/10/2020 7:13 am : link
I read some of the background thinking behind the film.

The vast vast majority of gunfights were drunken endless wild shots in dark places. Often the guys that "won" simply had more guns or bullets and shot last.

Quick draw based duels were only a small percentage compared to the alcohol blinded brawls
Definitely Heat  
Giants Fan in Steelers Land : 2/10/2020 7:32 am : link
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Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid...  
KingBlue : 2/10/2020 7:45 am : link
The Final Scene...
This thread took a weird turn  
RobCarpenter : 2/10/2020 8:17 am : link
Commando and Cobra are two films that do not hold up - Commando b/c of its laughable special effects, and Cobra b/c it was hastily edited into a mess of a film.
RE: This thread took a weird turn  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/10/2020 8:20 am : link
In comment 14807804 RobCarpenter said:
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Commando and Cobra are two films that do not hold up - Commando b/c of its laughable special effects, and Cobra b/c it was hastily edited into a mess of a film.


We were joking about those films.
Some of the scenes in Lone Survivor....  
bw in dc : 2/10/2020 8:23 am : link
were pretty damn good, especially the fighting on the mountain (not the village raid at the end)....
I would go with Heat based on just the sheer awesoness of it...  
RC in MD : 2/10/2020 8:33 am : link
but at least from my experience, I would go with the confusing pandemonium during the final raid in Zero Dark Thirty as the most realistic, especially when all of the SEALs end up in that one room waiting to go up the stairs to get UBL.

And while not realistic at all (and a crummy movie to boot), I would also put the chaotic nature of the scene from Battle: Los Angeles when the squad of Marines get ambushed as they start walking down the street as the most realistic reaction scene. How they have no clue where the shots are coming from and everyone is just yelling is pretty realistic in terms of the utter chaos of first contact with an enemy (just ignore the fact that these are aliens...replace them with humans)
First contact - ( New Window )
RE: I would go with Heat based on just the sheer awesoness of it...  
RC in MD : 2/10/2020 8:38 am : link
In comment 14807824 RC in MD said:
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but at least from my experience, I would go with the confusing pandemonium during the final raid in Zero Dark Thirty as the most realistic, especially when all of the SEALs end up in that one room waiting to go up the stairs to get UBL.

And while not realistic at all (and a crummy movie to boot), I would also put the chaotic nature of the scene from Battle: Los Angeles when the squad of Marines get ambushed as they start walking down the street as the most realistic reaction scene. How they have no clue where the shots are coming from and everyone is just yelling is pretty realistic in terms of the utter chaos of first contact with an enemy (just ignore the fact that these are aliens...replace them with humans) First contact - ( New Window )


By the way...I saw the North Hollywood shootout back in 1997 live on TV, and the sheer devastation that two people could cause against dozens of police officers is reminiscent of the shootout in Heat. So I wouldn't say that the shootout in Heat is totally unrealistic, especially when one side has automatic weapons while the other side does not.
North Hollywood Shootout - ( New Window )
You want realism?  
Milton : 2/10/2020 8:42 am : link
Omar vs Brother Mouzone
IIRC, people blamed Heat for the North Hollywood shootout  
Greg from LI : 2/10/2020 9:14 am : link
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HEAT was awesome!  
GMAN4LIFE : 2/10/2020 9:32 am : link
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RE: IIRC, people blamed Heat for the North Hollywood shootout  
RC in MD : 2/10/2020 9:49 am : link
In comment 14807862 Greg from LI said:
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Well...then it proves that Heat scene is realistic in a weird way.
RE: This thread took a weird turn  
mfsd : 2/10/2020 9:58 am : link
In comment 14807804 RobCarpenter said:
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Commando and Cobra are two films that do not hold up - Commando b/c of its laughable special effects, and Cobra b/c it was hastily edited into a mess of a film.


Strangely, Cobra stands out to me bc the bad guy was genuinely scary...at least, when I first saw it at about 13 or 14.

Commando was simply the most absurd of all the Arnold vehicles of the era...which in a way is why a lot of us still think of it fondly.

And yes, we were joking about them as realistic in any way

Two from Clint Eastwood...  
Milton : 2/10/2020 9:59 am : link
I can't decide which is more realistic and which is more racist...
Sudden Impact
Dirty Harry
hah...well, I will of course defer to your expertise in these matters  
Greg from LI : 2/10/2020 10:01 am : link
I will continue to say, though, that the weapons handling in Heat was very good, regardless of how realistic (or not) the shootout itself was.

I love that movie so damned much.
RE: Two from Clint Eastwood...  
Milton : 2/10/2020 10:13 am : link
In comment 14807914 Milton said:
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I can't decide which is more realistic and which is more racist...
Sudden Impact
Dirty Harry

Can't comment on the realism of Dirty Harry without props to Dirty Larry...
"Do 50 bullets in your ass make your day?" - ( New Window )
RE: Two from Clint Eastwood...  
Klaatu : 2/10/2020 10:14 am : link
In comment 14807914 Milton said:
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I can't decide which is more realistic and which is more racist...
Sudden Impact
Dirty Harry


I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but I met Albert Popwell, the actor playing the bank robber who Clint asks if he feels lucky, several times when I was a kid. He used to live in the apartment across the hall from my aunt in NYC. He had small parts in most of the Dirty Harry movies (and a few other Eastwood movies like Coogan's Bluff). Real nice guy.
He was in all the Dirty Harry movies except the Dead Pool  
Greg from LI : 2/10/2020 10:19 am : link
He was one of the bank robbers in Dirty Harry, the pimp in Magnum Force, the black radical leader in The Enforcer, and Harry's detective buddy in Sudden Impact.
RE: hah...well, I will of course defer to your expertise in these matters  
RC in MD : 2/10/2020 10:35 am : link
In comment 14807917 Greg from LI said:
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I will continue to say, though, that the weapons handling in Heat was very good, regardless of how realistic (or not) the shootout itself was.

I love that movie so damned much.


The thing that people never truly appreciate when watching any kind of a movie with shootouts/firefights is just how chaotic and confusing the entire thing is. Even the most well trained special operations teams get into firefights that devolve into a lot of rounds being put down range with most becoming suppressive fire more than anything. We've gotten so enamored with the myth of our special operators being these efficient killers, but they're just as prone to confusion and chaos (just in a more violent and controlled manner than your regular infantry).

That's why the Zero Dark Thirty scene at the end and the Battle: Los Angeles scene in the beginning are pretty realistic on how confusing everything gets.
RE: He was in all the Dirty Harry movies except the Dead Pool  
Klaatu : 2/10/2020 10:42 am : link
In comment 14807933 Greg from LI said:
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He was one of the bank robbers in Dirty Harry, the pimp in Magnum Force, the black radical leader in The Enforcer, and Harry's detective buddy in Sudden Impact.


Yup, that was "Popi," as we called him back then. He was filming a movie in Australia when The Dead Pool began production. I always get a kick out of seeing him play a bad guy, thug, whatever on the big screen, because that was so unlike him in real life.
not a movie  
dlauster : 2/10/2020 12:59 pm : link
but the shooting scenes in Giri/Haji on Netflix seem incredibly real.
RE: montanagiant  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/10/2020 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14807698 Eric from BBI said:
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the big shootout at the end of Commando is easily one of the most unrealistic shootout scenes in movie history. He had army of people shooting at him with automatic weapons and no one could hit the guy!


You've just described 95% of the movie Desperado.
Mars Attacks  
Chris684 : 2/10/2020 4:09 pm : link
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Link - ( New Window )
Any John Woo movie...  
trueblueinpw : 2/10/2020 5:22 pm : link
When I’m in a gun fight I always like to have both my 9s held sideways as I’m jumping through a flock of white doves and emptying my 300 round clips.
RE: As far as short films go...  
montanagiant : 2/10/2020 5:42 pm : link
In comment 14807759 Milton said:
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I nominate this "awesome ballet of death"... The Gunfighter - ( New Window )

hat was really well done and funny.

Cool story about Nick Offerman. My daughter and two other kids were in charge of setting up bringing in comedians, bands, lecturer's performers..etc.. For Kansas State University.

She and I are huge Parks & Rec fans and I love Offerman character. She contacts his people and he comes down there for a show. He was such a nice guy he hung out with the 3 of them for about 90 mins prior to his show singing and telling stories. The best part? For Christmas that year I got a framed Playbill of his show signed by him saying "Eat Meat".
The ending of 'The Town'.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/11/2020 7:48 am : link
'If we get jammed up, we're holding court on the street.'
So are we still talking about the most realistic  
RC in MD : 2/11/2020 11:07 am : link
or just really cool shootouts at this point? Seems like most people remember the really cool ones more so than the realistic ones although what is really considered realistic other than most shots never hitting their targets?
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