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I Love Clams Casino : 2/10/2020 8:51 am
was at the game yesterday and dare I say, it's a good product.

Hardly any flags...the kickoffs problem has been solved. Comeback time is awesome and makes perfect sense. Everything just made sense....I like it

Opinions & thoughts BBI?

I was at the game....no seats were sold in the upper levels. The crowd in one of the end zones was extremely rowdy. I walked over just for the experience and saw guys literally so drunk they were falling over. I saw one guy drool on another guys back...I know how that sounds, but not like that....just so freaking drunk he couldn't get his mouth to control his spit....wasn't pretty, but nobody was hurt, no fights, just very drunk and rowdy....
What is  
Jolly Blue Giant : 2/10/2020 8:52 am : link
Comeback time?
I would  
dank41 : 2/10/2020 8:53 am : link
like to see the kickoff rules adopted in the NFL. I think that could get pretty interesting with practice.
Ok got it....  
Jolly Blue Giant : 2/10/2020 8:56 am : link
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A "comeback period": Often NFL or college teams with the lead at the end of the game will run the ball to run out the clock. In the XFL, the clock will mostly stop after every play within the last two minutes of each half to give trailing teams a chance to catch up and win.
Watched Saturday's game the Guardians on Sunday..  
nzyme : 2/10/2020 8:57 am : link
The level of football that the league is putting on is MUCH better than the first iteration. I enjoyed and will keep watching the Guardian games. Happy for Gilbride.
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Steve in ATL : 2/10/2020 9:03 am : link
In comment 14807847 Jolly Blue Giant said:
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A "comeback period": Often NFL or college teams with the lead at the end of the game will run the ball to run out the clock. In the XFL, the clock will mostly stop after every play within the last two minutes of each half to give trailing teams a chance to catch up and win.



Sounds like an opportunity for lots of extra commercials.
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Harvest Blend : 2/10/2020 9:15 am : link
In comment 14807847 Jolly Blue Giant said:
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A "comeback period": Often NFL or college teams with the lead at the end of the game will run the ball to run out the clock. In the XFL, the clock will mostly stop after every play within the last two minutes of each half to give trailing teams a chance to catch up and win.



Brutal.
They just stop the game clock...  
LS : 2/10/2020 9:18 am : link
they don't go to a timeout.
I didn't get to watch much  
UConn4523 : 2/10/2020 9:22 am : link
but what I did watch was good. I stated in another thread that some friends went to the Guardians game yesterday and liked it a lot more than watching NFL live and overall just had more fun.

And I think that's what people lose sight of, sports should be fun, not serious (atleast IMO). The NFL is so corporate and so serious that its easy to lose interest over a long season.

I hope the XFL has a great first season.
XFL's twitter is hilarious too  
Justlurking : 2/10/2020 9:42 am : link
trolling Browns fans, not taking itself too seriously.

NFL will be using that kickoff within 2 seasons. Only issue is onside kicks.
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Zeke's Alibi : 2/10/2020 9:42 am : link
In comment 14807863 Harvest Blend said:
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A "comeback period": Often NFL or college teams with the lead at the end of the game will run the ball to run out the clock. In the XFL, the clock will mostly stop after every play within the last two minutes of each half to give trailing teams a chance to catch up and win.





Brutal.


Did you watch it? Because honestly it made the product much better. The last half quarter in football now is a about killing the clock as opposed to beating the other team with xs and os. The NFL should really take some notes because it seems like every rule change plus the full transparency were direct shots at what the NFL is struggling with.

Also the quality of play is much higher week 1 than the NFL week 1, mostly because these guys have been playing football. The NFL really needs to take a look at what it can do in July and August to remedy their slow starts.
Here's  
Giantophile : 2/10/2020 9:47 am : link
a decent explanation. I like it:

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Timing rules: In an attempt to keep game times under three hours, the clock will run continuously until the final two minutes of each half. During the so-called “comeback period,” the game clock will be stopped until the ball is spotted and five seconds have run off the play clock. The clock is stopped on incompletions and plays out of bounds. Teams get two timeouts per half. The play clock will be 25 seconds (the NFL’s is 40 seconds), and an eighth official will be in charge of spotting the ball to speed up play. Halftime will be 10 minutes.
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GiantEgo : 2/10/2020 9:49 am : link
The fact that this "league" is run by America's foremost purveyor of staged-predetermined sporting events doesn't bother anyone? Granted it does dovetail well with what the culture has become.
I watched the game btwn Seattle & WAshington  
KeoweeFan : 2/10/2020 9:53 am : link
I liked the rule changes.
Hearing some of the calls to the QB and WRs by the OC/DC was interesting but might get tiring after a while. They might consider selectively using that featrure AFTER an interesting play.

Personally, I am not a fan of the immediate on the field interviews of breathless players, especially after negative plays "How do you feel after missing the game tying FG?" Ol' timers will remember the parodies of Howard Cosell interviewing boxers immediately after they lost a fight. ;)
I didn't watch a lot  
GiantsLaw : 2/10/2020 9:54 am : link
but caught some. As some have said, the quality of play was beeter than I expected.
I was impressed  
HoustonGiant : 2/10/2020 9:54 am : link
the level and effort was great. Very entertaining.

I loved the kickoff, I think the NFL needs to adopt it.
Thought it was pretty good  
Lines of Scrimmage : 2/10/2020 10:05 am : link
Need something till March Madness so a nice fill in. I am not tied to a team so that is different.

For a first week the play was pretty good imo. They probably don't have some of the practice restraints the NFL has. No preseason so hopefully the play continues to get better.

Maybe the league can provide some OL to the NFL as that would seem the most realistic position it can benefit.

If it does survive I am very curious how this may impact college football. Maybe elite high school kids go to this league to get paid or it forces the NCAA to start paying college kids.
I watched the whole Guardians game yesterday  
ShockNRoll : 2/10/2020 10:23 am : link
and I was very happy with the product. I love the transparency of the officiating, the "eyes in the sky" buzzing in for reviews, reviews not taking 5 minutes, and most importantly, coaches not being responsible to catch officiating mistakes. It's a work in progress, as the replay official on one play seemed to forget that in the XFL you only need 1 foot down, and I think as good as the kickoffs are, there should be some tweaks to it (I think coverage teams need to have the opportunity to line up X number of players 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage so they can more adequately cover the kick), but overall, I will be watching whenever I can.

Vince wouldn't have tried this again if he didn't think there was a good chance it would succeed. I think they're definitely onto something, and as long as it is financially feasible (not losing millions of dollars), I think this league has a good chance to survive this time around.
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John In CO : 2/10/2020 10:27 am : link
In comment 14807898 GiantEgo said:
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The fact that this "league" is run by America's foremost purveyor of staged-predetermined sporting events doesn't bother anyone? Granted it does dovetail well with what the culture has become.


I am not a fan of Pro Wrestling in any fashion....well, at least not since I was in High School in the 70's. But one thing that I will say about McMahon is that I dont believe he is a stupid man. He already took a shot at this XFL thing once 20 years ago, and it was pretty much a disaster. My guess is that, him not being a stupid man, he probably learned a few lessons from that venture and wont make the same mistake twice. And with that, I think that if he applies those lessons, and at first glance it appears that he has, this league will have a shot at making it.
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Ben in Tampa : 2/10/2020 10:46 am : link
In comment 14807898 GiantEgo said:
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The fact that this "league" is run by America's foremost purveyor of staged-predetermined sporting events doesn't bother anyone? Granted it does dovetail well with what the culture has become.


To be fair, Vince McMahon is the owner but Oliver Luck runs the league as the CEO/Commissioner.
I watched some of the Guardians game - not bad.  
Del Shofner : 2/10/2020 10:50 am : link
So ... how do they do an onside kick in this league?
RE: I watched some of the Guardians game - not bad.  
Zeke's Alibi : 2/10/2020 11:09 am : link
In comment 14807968 Del Shofner said:
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So ... how do they do an onside kick in this league?


4th and 15.
RE: I watched some of the Guardians game - not bad.  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 2/10/2020 11:10 am : link
In comment 14807968 Del Shofner said:
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So ... how do they do an onside kick in this league?


I was wondering the same thing. I thought we might find out if the team playing the Guardians had scored the last time they had the ball in the red zone near the end of the game, but the Guardians held and took over on downs.

I really think the announcers should have given a heads up as to what an onsides kick would look like under the XFL rules.
just checked the XFL rules - it's the same as the NFL but  
Del Shofner : 2/10/2020 11:13 am : link
no surprises, you have to declare it.

"If a team wishes to run an onside kick, it must indicate this to the official before the play and the two teams will be permitted to line up using traditional NFL rules (i.e. 10 yards apart from the kicking team). There will be no surprise onside kicks."
RE: What is  
giantsfan227B : 2/10/2020 11:22 am : link
In comment 14807840 Jolly Blue Giant said:
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Comeback time?


Giants fans aren't used to it. It is when your team trails and rallies in the 4th qtr. We are very knowledgeable about fall-behind time.
RE: What is  
Geomon : 2/10/2020 12:34 pm : link
In comment 14807840 Jolly Blue Giant said:
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Comeback time?

During the final 2 minutes of each half the clock will automatically stops after every play to give the losing team a better chance to score before the end of the half/game.
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smshmth8690 : 2/10/2020 12:51 pm : link
In comment 14807898 GiantEgo said:
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The fact that this "league" is run by America's foremost purveyor of staged-predetermined sporting events doesn't bother anyone? Granted it does dovetail well with what the culture has become.


It doesn't bother me as much as the NFL legally positioning themselves as Sports Entertainment, along with Professional Wrestling, and Roller Derby.
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moespree : 2/10/2020 1:15 pm : link
In comment 14807898 GiantEgo said:
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The fact that this "league" is run by America's foremost purveyor of staged-predetermined sporting events doesn't bother anyone? Granted it does dovetail well with what the culture has become.


McMahon has utilized a smarter strategy than his previous attempt. He hired 3 former NFL people, 2 NBA people and college football people to run the league. These people made some of these rule experiments. He set up an office board utilizing the methods the NFL and NBA Commish office operates in. He did not do this his first attempt and I have read no other attempted sport in America has done this, only the big 4.

I think his ultimate goal is affiliation with the NFL and to become an almost minor league system of sorts.
Looked like they weren't calling  
Simms11 : 2/10/2020 1:15 pm : link
any holding penalties on the Olines. Lots of mugging going on without calls.
RE: just checked the XFL rules - it's the same as the NFL but  
Ivan15 : 2/10/2020 8:17 pm : link
In comment 14808022 Del Shofner said:
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no surprises, you have to declare it.

"If a team wishes to run an onside kick, it must indicate this to the official before the play and the two teams will be permitted to line up using traditional NFL rules (i.e. 10 yards apart from the kicking team). There will be no surprise onside kicks."


I think a surprise onside kick could be a lot of fun. Kick the ball about 20 yards over the head of the lined-up players then watch everyone scramble for it. Kind of like a rugby scrum.
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