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“It’s a good record and it took me a long time to get that,” Gastineau said. “It took a lot of work, a lot of work to get that record. So many years I worked my butt off to get it, and I finally got it, and it shouldn’t have been cheapened like it was. It’s like a tarnished record.” |
Anyway, he mentioned that the record stood for a number of years before some new kid came along and broke it, and here we are. My dad had the presence of mind to ask him how he felt about the record being broken, about some younger kid accomplishing an even bigger feat.
I think my dad expected the guy to talk about how he had mixed feelings maybe... Maybe he was proud of the kid, or proud of his own record looking back... if it felt like a torch passing. Instead the guy mentioned that it actually felt awful. He was mad for a long time about it, and it was a very difficult topic for him to think and talk about, and he felt angry at the new record holder.
I think that this is just the way it is with these high-level competitors, especially athletes who drain their bodies and spirits to leave it all on the field in the pursuit of bigger feats. They have nothing left to give when it is all over.
Gastineau held a great record for a long time, and he probably had to cross hell to get there. The spirit that made him the first to reach that new record is the same thing that now precludes him for feeling all fuzzy for the new generation. The bitterness and denial is a by-product of the competitor.
So maybe he's just reached the point where that pent up disappointment is coming out. Or maybe he just needs some attention. The one undeniable fact is, record or no record, Strahan was a much better player than Gastineau was, and not a flaming loon on or off the field.
This. Plus I don't think Strahan was taking steroid during his playing days so there that.
With two fewer games, at a time in league history where there were far fewer passing downs.
LT was up there too, especially when you consider he usually had half the opposing team trying to stop him from sacking the QB.
Sacks became and official stat in 1982. LT had I think 10 in 1981 that didn't go towards his career record officially.
Saeson went to 16 games in 1978.
Again, he was robbed of a legit sack earlier in the season against the Redskins, so it was cosmic justice.
I was at that game when it happened. And let's all remember the context here. The Giants went from a Super Bowl participant to getting knocked out the week before on the near score on the Lambuth Special. This was the rescheduled game due to 9/11. At this time, NYC was still struggling to live in a new normal. The only thing that mattered in that game was if Strahan would get the sack record. And yes, Favre decided to go rogue on his own and roll into Strahan once the game was well decided. It was a nod to Strahan and the Giants fans to give them something to cheer about in a lost season and at a horrible time for NYC. At the end of the game, Fassel understood it and at a point where he used to call time outs to save time, he let the clock run out and had time outs in his pocket. At least, that was my take. Yes, it was a given to him, but there was more to it.
With two fewer games, at a time in league history where there were far fewer passing downs.
LT was up there too, especially when you consider he usually had half the opposing team trying to stop him from sacking the QB.
And he effectively coined the phrase, ‘Sack.’
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sack back he was cheated out of against Washington. RG3's knee was down before he threw the pass. That seals the deal.
This. Plus I don't think Strahan was taking steroid during his playing days so there that.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Not the horse tranquilizer Gastineu was using, but PED's - certainly
Records are made to be beat blah blah blah
whats his issue? is it because he sees Strahan on TV every 2 seconds now and its a constant reminder?
As mentioned earlier, there is an angle here. He's got a book coming or his daughter has something upcoming... there is always an angle.
There is an interview and pic where he was very gracious after the sack record was broken, and he hugged Strahan etc...
This is for publicity, clearly. Nothing sells like fake outrage.
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but wasn't Gastineau very gracious when it happened?
Records are made to be beat blah blah blah
whats his issue? is it because he sees Strahan on TV every 2 seconds now and its a constant reminder?
As mentioned earlier, there is an angle here. He's got a book coming or his daughter has something upcoming... there is always an angle.
There is an interview and pic where he was very gracious after the sack record was broken, and he hugged Strahan etc...
This is for publicity, clearly. Nothing sells like fake outrage.
Or, he was faking graciousness publicly at the time?
If I were Gastineau, I'd take the gas pipe!
He was always a bit of a whackadoo, but when I was 13 he saw me walking home from Joe Namath Football Camp, carrying my helmet and pads. He pulled over in his Mercedes and gave me a ride, asking me questions about what position I played, etc. He was super nice.
So when his career flamed out and he had rumors of drug problems, drama with Brigitte Nielsen, boxing, etc. I always think about how he was nice to a chubby kid walking down the road who could use a ride.
Did he ask you if you liked pro wrestling?
Best line of this thread, and there are a few including Gastineau keeping Fat kids from losing weight.....
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He was always a bit of a whackadoo, but when I was 13 he saw me walking home from Joe Namath Football Camp, carrying my helmet and pads. He pulled over in his Mercedes and gave me a ride, asking me questions about what position I played, etc. He was super nice.
So when his career flamed out and he had rumors of drug problems, drama with Brigitte Nielsen, boxing, etc. I always think about how he was nice to a chubby kid walking down the road who could use a ride.
Did he ask you if you liked pro wrestling?
or if he ever saw a grown man naked? or been to a turkish prison? :-)
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He was always a bit of a whackadoo, but when I was 13 he saw me walking home from Joe Namath Football Camp, carrying my helmet and pads. He pulled over in his Mercedes and gave me a ride, asking me questions about what position I played, etc. He was super nice.
So when his career flamed out and he had rumors of drug problems, drama with Brigitte Nielsen, boxing, etc. I always think about how he was nice to a chubby kid walking down the road who could use a ride.
Did he ask you if you liked pro wrestling?
or if he ever saw a grown man naked? or been to a turkish prison? :-)
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But isn’t the operating theory that LT had record in a year before they started recording it as an official stat? Also was 84 a 14 or 16 game schedule?
Sacks became and official stat in 1982. LT had I think 10 in 1981 that didn't go towards his career record officially.
Saeson went to 16 games in 1978.
LT had 9.5 sacks his rookie year.
Strahan was great enough. HOF. Didn't need that record and Gastineau is right, it's cheapened.
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but wasn't Gastineau very gracious when it happened?
Records are made to be beat blah blah blah
whats his issue? is it because he sees Strahan on TV every 2 seconds now and its a constant reminder?
As mentioned earlier, there is an angle here. He's got a book coming or his daughter has something upcoming... there is always an angle.
There is an interview and pic where he was very gracious after the sack record was broken, and he hugged Strahan etc...
This is for publicity, clearly. Nothing sells like fake outrage.
Or, he was faking graciousness publicly at the time?
Could be. Hell of a 19 year delay in speaking up by him.
I’m sure I’m not the only one who got a few of my early boners thinking about her in Red Sonya
Strahan was great enough. HOF. Didn't need that record and Gastineau is right, it's cheapened.
I love Strahan, but that was pretty blatant and embarrassing to watch. I know there were a couple times that year they took away sacks from Strahan. Some were bs reversals, but those don't offset Favre's gift. Gastineau may be a clown and he likely has some ulterior motive, but he isn't wrong.
Luckily, Marty Lyons (and his wife) intervened. Another Jet did, too (I think it was Lam Jones).
Luckily, Marty Lyons (and his wife) intervened. Another Jet did, too (I think it was Lam Jones).
Love it!
As a former bouncer I love stories like this. Nothing worse than the "do you know who I am" athlete.
Minny, I’m blanking on that..
Gastineau has been married three times. His first wife, Lisa Gastineau and their daughter Brittny Gastineau starred in the E! reality television show, The Gastineau Girls. Gastineau has a son with actress Brigitte Nielsen, Killian Marcus. He was estranged from both children in 2010.
Shortly after his release from prison in 2001, Gastineau claims he has put his turbulent past behind him after he had a religious conversion to faith in Jesus Christ. Gastineau has appeared on programs such as The 700 Club to speak of his experience. Gastineau is a member of the choir at Times Square Church, where he married third wife JoAnn in 2007.
Legal issues
In 1984, Gastineau was found guilty of assaulting a patron at Studio 54. He was sentenced to 90 hours of community service, teaching football to inmates at Rikers Island.
In 1991, Gastineau was arrested for picking up a package of amphetamine pills at Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport. He was sentenced to three years probation in 1993.
In September, 2000, Gastineau was sentenced to 18 months in jail after failing to complete an anger management course after hitting his second wife, Patricia.
And the weakest argument of all if Strahan lost a sack because of holding.
And the weakest argument of all if Strahan lost a sack because of holding.
I have the ticket stub from that game, but I never felt good about it. To this day, I think of Favre when that record is cited. He lost a sack? Ok, that’s fair. But do we know how many (if any) Gastineau lost that year?
I’m called a homer, but in this case, I never bought into it. That said, over 20 sacks is one helluva year.
Gastneau took the high road at first, but age and woes do find a way to chip away at us.
Farve's dive was really bad. Its one of the reasons MS wanted someone else to break the record as posted by others.
Shame MS could not have earned it legit prior to the Brett Flop. Waving the missed sacks prior flag does not eradicate what the majority of football knows.
The record is not going to be changed. Gastineau was given another moment in the sun with his howls.
Ultimate team game and this guy is still crying about a horse shit individual record. Notice he isn’t crying about the brutal personal foul late hit he committed in the 1986 playoff loss at Cleveland. If Mark G doesn’t commit that foul the jets win.
But who’s counting....
Luckily, Marty Lyons (and his wife) intervened. Another Jet did, too (I think it was Lam Jones).
Awesome story. Thanks for sharing!