Gastineau: I want my sack record back. Cheapened.

sack back he was cheated out of against Washington. RG3's knee was down before he threw the pass. That seals the deal.

In comment 14808622 LS said:

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sack back he was cheated out of against Washington. RG3's knee was down before he threw the pass. That seals the deal.

Highly doubt Strahan ever played RG3 but carry on...

Subject should be - Gastineau: I want my sack back.

In comment 14808623 90.Cal said:

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In comment 14808622 LS said: Quote: sack back he was cheated out of against Washington. RG3's knee was down before he threw the pass. That seals the deal. Highly doubt Strahan ever played RG3 but carry on...

lol.

I still remember as his playing days were winding down and he was more or less washed up, the Jets had some playoff possibility. He was talking to the press about wanting to try so hard that he expected to blow out his knee, or something to that effect. It just had a weird mentality to it.

Mark, you had the record for a while. Be happy. That's something 99.999999% of us will never achieve. But it's over. Stop it.

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I believe it was Tony Banks...

In comment 14808623 90.Cal said:

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In comment 14808622 LS said: Quote: sack back he was cheated out of against Washington. RG3's knee was down before he threw the pass. That seals the deal. Highly doubt Strahan ever played RG3 but carry on...

Gastineau using the word “cheated” but not referring to himself? Yeah, all that hard work...
Used Steroids Entire Career - ( New Window )

and then he'll say that it is he who deserves to be on Good Morning America, not Strahan

He was always a bit of a whackadoo, but when I was 13 he saw me walking home from Joe Namath Football Camp, carrying my helmet and pads. He pulled over in his Mercedes and gave me a ride, asking me questions about what position I played, etc. He was super nice.

So when his career flamed out and he had rumors of drug problems, drama with Brigitte Nielsen, boxing, etc. I always think about how he was nice to a chubby kid walking down the road who could use a ride.

In comment 14808625 Harvest Blend said:

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In comment 14808623 90.Cal said: Quote: In comment 14808622 LS said: Quote: sack back he was cheated out of against Washington. RG3's knee was down before he threw the pass. That seals the deal. Highly doubt Strahan ever played RG3 but carry on... lol.

It might have been Tony Banks. Point is he wasn't credited with a sack he should have had that year. There is a photo, and an article of the play somewhere.

his daughter is about to "drop" some new promotion and she's got him stirring up shit to get their families name back on people's minds?

Cry me a river.

One of my favorite non-Giants moments was when the Rams played the Jets and that asshole started doing his moronic dance and Jackie Slater went after him.

1/1,000,000th the player Strahan was. Gastineau never even pretended to care about stopping the run. I loved watching him run to the QB, only to watch the RB go right by him with the ball.

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1/1,000,000th the player Strahan was. Gastineau never even pretended to care about stopping the run. I loved watching him run to the QB, only to watch the RB go right by him with the ball.

Exactly. Always the same path, running around the tackle with his head down.

but Strahan Sacked Tony banks in the home game vs. washington earlier that season but it was called an incomplete pass. Only a few diehards know that, but to me the record was legitmately broken before Favre did him a favor.

In comment 14808638 Victor in CT said:

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One of my favorite non-Giants moments was when the Rams played the Jets and that asshole started doing his moronic dance and Jackie Slater went after him.

+1

Screw Gastineau, and screw his claim. Strahan is the single season sack king.

In comment 14808628 LarmerTJR said:
[quote] I believe it was Tony Banks...

I knew there were more than a few fellow Giants fans who realized this as well.

In comment 14808632 Heisenberg said:

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He was always a bit of a whackadoo, but when I was 13 he saw me walking home from Joe Namath Football Camp, carrying my helmet and pads. He pulled over in his Mercedes and gave me a ride, asking me questions about what position I played, etc. He was super nice. So when his career flamed out and he had rumors of drug problems, drama with Brigitte Nielsen, boxing, etc. I always think about how he was nice to a chubby kid walking down the road who could use a ride.

He is human ... we come /w positives and negatives ... a lot of times people don't see celebrities as humans ... it is odd

how many sacks might others have had as well? You don’t know if some of the close ones over the years also had sacks that weren’t counted etc

In comment 14808632 Heisenberg said:

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He was always a bit of a whackadoo, but when I was 13 he saw me walking home from Joe Namath Football Camp, carrying my helmet and pads. He pulled over in his Mercedes and gave me a ride, asking me questions about what position I played, etc. He was super nice. So when his career flamed out and he had rumors of drug problems, drama with Brigitte Nielsen, boxing, etc. I always think about how he was nice to a chubby kid walking down the road who could use a ride.

Another knock against Gastineau, discouraging obese children from getting the exercise they so sorely require.

outraged now because...?

and it was Gastineau who took the sack record from Strahan (or LT) when a QB decided to gift him a sack... I wonder if the comments on this thread would be a bit different?

In comment 14808656 Jim in Tampa said:

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and it was Gastineau who took the sack record from Strahan (or LT) when a QB decided to gift him a sack... I wonder if the comments on this thread would be a bit different?

You wonder? 😂😂

Wait a minute...never mind.

but wasn't Gastineau very gracious when it happened?

Records are made to be beat blah blah blah

whats his issue? is it because he sees Strahan on TV every 2 seconds now and its a constant reminder?

In comment 14808653 jcn56 said:

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In comment 14808632 Heisenberg said: Quote: He was always a bit of a whackadoo, but when I was 13 he saw me walking home from Joe Namath Football Camp, carrying my helmet and pads. He pulled over in his Mercedes and gave me a ride, asking me questions about what position I played, etc. He was super nice. So when his career flamed out and he had rumors of drug problems, drama with Brigitte Nielsen, boxing, etc. I always think about how he was nice to a chubby kid walking down the road who could use a ride. Another knock against Gastineau, discouraging obese children from getting the exercise they so sorely require.

LOL!

to talk to Deacon Jones and Coy Bacon, who would have been the undisputed kings of sacks had they kept records. Jones had 22 sacks in 14 games(!) in 1964, per wikipedia.

When Lebron passed him in all time scoring to congratulate him and thank him for moving the game forward. Quite the contrast.

In comment 14808653 jcn56 said:

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In comment 14808632 Heisenberg said: Quote: He was always a bit of a whackadoo, but when I was 13 he saw me walking home from Joe Namath Football Camp, carrying my helmet and pads. He pulled over in his Mercedes and gave me a ride, asking me questions about what position I played, etc. He was super nice. So when his career flamed out and he had rumors of drug problems, drama with Brigitte Nielsen, boxing, etc. I always think about how he was nice to a chubby kid walking down the road who could use a ride. Another knock against Gastineau, discouraging obese children from getting the exercise they so sorely require.

hahahaha! Ouch.

....that happened in *checks calendar* 2001.

Oh, right....

how he was in London on vacation and ran into another American somewhere and struck up a conversation, and this other American had been a former NCAA athlete who once held the world-record (?) or NCAA record for some track/field event... maybe long jump, or high jump... it doesn't matter.
Anyway, he mentioned that the record stood for a number of years before some new kid came along and broke it, and here we are. My dad had the presence of mind to ask him how he felt about the record being broken, about some younger kid accomplishing an even bigger feat.
I think my dad expected the guy to talk about how he had mixed feelings maybe... Maybe he was proud of the kid, or proud of his own record looking back... if it felt like a torch passing. Instead the guy mentioned that it actually felt awful. He was mad for a long time about it, and it was a very difficult topic for him to think and talk about, and he felt angry at the new record holder.

I think that this is just the way it is with these high-level competitors, especially athletes who drain their bodies and spirits to leave it all on the field in the pursuit of bigger feats. They have nothing left to give when it is all over.

Gastineau held a great record for a long time, and he probably had to cross hell to get there. The spirit that made him the first to reach that new record is the same thing that now precludes him for feeling all fuzzy for the new generation. The bitterness and denial is a by-product of the competitor.

when Strahan broke the record. I remember someone managed to get some screen time with him, only to get a Jesus-y 'how can I be disappointed with Strahan breaking the record when God sacrificed his only son for me' type of interview.

So maybe he's just reached the point where that pent up disappointment is coming out. Or maybe he just needs some attention. The one undeniable fact is, record or no record, Strahan was a much better player than Gastineau was, and not a flaming loon on or off the field.

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sack back he was cheated out of against Washington. RG3's knee was down before he threw the pass. That seals the deal.

This. Plus I don't think Strahan was taking steroid during his playing days so there that.

total asshole without any intelligence, class or sportsmanship is not only tolerated but encouraged. See the victory pose by the Niners Defense after the interception in the SB as an example. So in a way, Gastineau was ahead of his time.

But isn’t the operating theory that LT had record in a year before they started recording it as an official stat? Also was 84 a 14 or 16 game schedule?

I've seen sources (and I don't know how reliable they are) calculate his sacks over a season and put it into the mid-20's.

With two fewer games, at a time in league history where there were far fewer passing downs.

LT was up there too, especially when you consider he usually had half the opposing team trying to stop him from sacking the QB.

In comment 14808696 bhill410 said:

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But isn’t the operating theory that LT had record in a year before they started recording it as an official stat? Also was 84 a 14 or 16 game schedule?

Sacks became and official stat in 1982. LT had I think 10 in 1981 that didn't go towards his career record officially.

Saeson went to 16 games in 1978.

But he also was allowed to use the head slap. It was his primary move.

But it's a tarnished record. He's right. Packers up by 2 scores with 2 minutes to go. No reason to pass it at all, let alone roll out to find an unblocked Strahan. It's horseshit. Clearly planned.

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But it's a tarnished record. He's right. Packers up by 2 scores with 2 minutes to go. No reason to pass it at all, let alone roll out to find an unblocked Strahan. It's horseshit. Clearly planned.

Again, he was robbed of a legit sack earlier in the season against the Redskins, so it was cosmic justice.

In comment 14808713 Mike in Long Beach said:

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But it's a tarnished record. He's right. Packers up by 2 scores with 2 minutes to go. No reason to pass it at all, let alone roll out to find an unblocked Strahan. It's horseshit. Clearly planned.

I was at that game when it happened. And let's all remember the context here. The Giants went from a Super Bowl participant to getting knocked out the week before on the near score on the Lambuth Special. This was the rescheduled game due to 9/11. At this time, NYC was still struggling to live in a new normal. The only thing that mattered in that game was if Strahan would get the sack record. And yes, Favre decided to go rogue on his own and roll into Strahan once the game was well decided. It was a nod to Strahan and the Giants fans to give them something to cheer about in a lost season and at a horrible time for NYC. At the end of the game, Fassel understood it and at a point where he used to call time outs to save time, he let the clock run out and had time outs in his pocket. At least, that was my take. Yes, it was a given to him, but there was more to it.

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I've seen sources (and I don't know how reliable they are) calculate his sacks over a season and put it into the mid-20's. With two fewer games, at a time in league history where there were far fewer passing downs. LT was up there too, especially when you consider he usually had half the opposing team trying to stop him from sacking the QB.

And he effectively coined the phrase, ‘Sack.’

In comment 14808686 Rjanyg said:

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In comment 14808622 LS said: Quote: sack back he was cheated out of against Washington. RG3's knee was down before he threw the pass. That seals the deal. This. Plus I don't think Strahan was taking steroid during his playing days so there that.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Not the horse tranquilizer Gastineu was using, but PED's - certainly

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In comment 14808729 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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I wouldn't be so sure of that. Not the horse tranquilizer Gastineu was using, but PED's - certainly

In comment 14808664 cjac said:

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but wasn't Gastineau very gracious when it happened? Records are made to be beat blah blah blah whats his issue? is it because he sees Strahan on TV every 2 seconds now and its a constant reminder?

As mentioned earlier, there is an angle here. He's got a book coming or his daughter has something upcoming... there is always an angle.

There is an interview and pic where he was very gracious after the sack record was broken, and he hugged Strahan etc...

This is for publicity, clearly. Nothing sells like fake outrage.

In comment 14808776 GiantsRage2007 said:

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In comment 14808664 cjac said: Quote: but wasn't Gastineau very gracious when it happened? Records are made to be beat blah blah blah whats his issue? is it because he sees Strahan on TV every 2 seconds now and its a constant reminder? As mentioned earlier, there is an angle here. He's got a book coming or his daughter has something upcoming... there is always an angle. There is an interview and pic where he was very gracious after the sack record was broken, and he hugged Strahan etc... This is for publicity, clearly. Nothing sells like fake outrage.

Or, he was faking graciousness publicly at the time?