Sure is. If Toronto drafted Mitchell Robinson he might be an All-Star by now, or at least on the fast track to being one. Has Mitch developed his offensive game at all in two years? A baby hook, a jumper, anything? Seems like the same exact player he was when he got here, like everyone else. Hopefully Dolan allows a proper housecleaning, but I'm not holding my breath.
what's ironic is that the Knicks, despite all of their problems, don't need this guy. Even though they're in the lottery every year and have had all kinds of bad PR, they're still a cash machine.
I don't think he's there for Knicks PR as much as he is for Dolan's.
President: Leon Rose
GM: Malik Rose
Coach: John Calipari
C: Robinson, Tristan Thompson
PF: Randle, Wooten
SF: Bertans, Knox
SG: Barrett, Dotson
PG: Payton, Cole Anthony
That's not the worst thing, though far from the best thing. But as NYK fans its sort of what we all imagine when we close our eyes and imagine the next disappointing season.
nygiants16 I know you're sitting there, hitting f5 every second on this thread. Don't leave. You can't quit us. You know you have that itch, that burning desire to post something positive.
I'll serve up the volleyball to you. "Frank Ntilikina isn't any good because....
RE: The Knicks are like the Giants - they haven't earned Â
the benefit of the doubt. Granted, they've been much worse for far longer, but the symptoms are the same - a fatigued fanbase that looks upon any move skeptically.
We don't know who's running what there, and whether it's good or not. It's too soon. I'll just maintain hope that it's actually Rose in charge, and the reason you're hearing from this guy is because Rose isn't contractually in place yet.
Gee, I must have been away when the Knicks had their 2 parades down Broadway in 2008 and 2012.
the whole NY as Mecca thing is over. The only thing NY is is the Â
Mecca of Taxes and a rapidly deteriorating quality of life. Cable and internet streaming makes it irrelevant. You can play anywhere and be nationally/globally famous and win. And get endorsements.
Mecca of Taxes and a rapidly deteriorating quality of life. Cable and internet streaming makes it irrelevant. You can play anywhere and be nationally/globally famous and win. And get endorsements.
Yeah, that's a great hot take. That must be why so many of the wealthy keep fleeing the city and real estate keeps dropping in price. Maybe you should call the folks at Hudson Yards and give 'em a heads-up.
Notice Durant and Irving signed recently, and the taxes weren't a problem for them. Dolan on the other hand...
RE: the whole NY as Mecca thing is over. The only thing NY is is the Â
Mecca of Taxes and a rapidly deteriorating quality of life. Cable and internet streaming makes it irrelevant. You can play anywhere and be nationally/globally famous and win. And get endorsements.
The best part about this hot take is that literally 95% of NBA stars try and force their way to big markets so clearly they disagree with you.
RE: RE: the whole NY as Mecca thing is over. The only thing NY is is the Â
Mecca of Taxes and a rapidly deteriorating quality of life. Cable and internet streaming makes it irrelevant. You can play anywhere and be nationally/globally famous and win. And get endorsements.
Yeah, that's a great hot take. That must be why so many of the wealthy keep fleeing the city and real estate keeps dropping in price. Maybe you should call the folks at Hudson Yards and give 'em a heads-up.
Notice Durant and Irving signed recently, and the taxes weren't a problem for them. Dolan on the other hand...
I don't know where you live, but perhaps you should be better informed. High end real estate is floundering in NYC. I read it every day in the local trade sites. I don't live in NYC but I work downtown near World Trade. I'm seeing things I haven't seen since the first half of the Dinkins administration. Vagrants, panhandlers, aggressive thugs in the subway. And stuff your "hot take" comment. It's reality. I live it everyday. I left work one night and 3 vagrants were brawling over their "rights" to panhandle in front of the building. People with the means are leaving. Dolan is certainly a boob, but he's not the only problem. Subways are now routinely being delayed by "soiled cars" and "unruly passengers". Public urination is common place. So stuff your "hot take" straight up your ass. You have no clue what the fuck you are talking about.
I live in NYC, I work in Manhattan, and I own real estate here Â
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When management changes happen, everyone assumes the new GM/president is going to hire a new coach. Still, it's unfair to Mike Miller - who has been nothing but professional in tough circumstances - that it was essentially confirmed by NYK on TV today:
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When management changes happen, everyone assumes the new GM/president is going to hire a new coach. Still, it's unfair to Mike Miller - who has been nothing but professional in tough circumstances - that it was essentially confirmed by NYK on TV today:
nah, this is totally normal! Other teams have "branding gurus" appear on national TV and comment on personnel and coaches all the time!
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When management changes happen, everyone assumes the new GM/president is going to hire a new coach. Still, it's unfair to Mike Miller - who has been nothing but professional in tough circumstances - that it was essentially confirmed by NYK on TV today:
nah, this is totally normal! Other teams have "branding gurus" appear on national TV and comment on personnel and coaches all the time!
That’s what really kills me. Knicks hit rock bottom and finally fire Steve Mills. Normal owner and team would re-evaluate everything and clean house while searching for the most qualified and best GM possible. The Knicks hire a player agent and marketing guru to revamp things and now preach about getting big time free agents.
Same old shit.
And the Knicks are still then most valuable team I the NBA Â
Have to give Dolan credit for one thing, he keeps spending even though the value of the team keeps growing despite horrible basketball. Link - ( New Window )
so, basically, this Steve Stoudt character is going to be... Â
just sent out a statement saying he doesn't speak on behalf of personnel decisions. Am I dreaming or is this all really happening? It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic that the guy they hired to improve their perception just got them a whole bunch of negative publicity today.
just sent out a statement saying he doesn't speak on behalf of personnel decisions. Am I dreaming or is this all really happening? It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic that the guy they hired to improve their perception just got them a whole bunch of negative publicity today.
just sent out a statement saying he doesn't speak on behalf of personnel decisions. Am I dreaming or is this all really happening? It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic that the guy they hired to improve their perception just got them a whole bunch of negative publicity today.
Good grief. What’s this guy going to deliver for the Knicks? The one thing they still don’t have a problem with is filling the Garden and getting celebrities to come to games.
Winning basketball games, however, proves elusive
I don't understand how Calipari would improve the Knicks. Â
He's a flashy name, but Knicks fans aren't going to be impressed by that. He has a poor record as an NBA coach. I guess he preaches defense, which is good, but he's not actually a, you know, good NBA coach. Or does that not matter because somebody thinks college hoops fans will flock to MSG to see a Calipari coached team... win 35 games?
RE: I don't understand how Calipari would improve the Knicks. Â
He's a flashy name, but Knicks fans aren't going to be impressed by that. He has a poor record as an NBA coach. I guess he preaches defense, which is good, but he's not actually a, you know, good NBA coach. Or does that not matter because somebody thinks college hoops fans will flock to MSG to see a Calipari coached team... win 35 games?
He would likely end up on the long list of high profile big name coaches that have failed as a Knick coach.
Other than it's not flashy, for the life of me I don't know why they wouldn't give Miller at least one full season while they continue to improve the roster. Then by the time they actually get a more complete roster with a legitimate chance at competing at a higher level they will also have had time to properly assess what they have in Miller. He has done a better job with less than most of the "names" they brought in, in the past.
He has earned the chance of at least having the benefit of a training camp and preseason to install his own system and see what happens. They aren't going to be a championship team next season anyway and if it becomes apparent Miller isn't a long term answer ten you can bring another coach and they also had another year to upgrade the roster in the meanwhile. But if by chance Miller can take the team to the next level why not find out?
to give Mike Miller a two-year deal and evaluate things year by year. He’s done a solid job, the team will lose 50 games next year regardless of coach, and he’s a cheap alternative to the big name guys (and they’re still paying Fiz NOT to coach). Plus, JVG, Mark Jackson and Thibs will all be available a year or two from now because only Frank Isola thinks they’re no-brainer candidates.
He has earned the chance of at least having the benefit of a training camp and preseason to install his own system and see what happens. They aren't going to be a championship team next season anyway and if it becomes apparent Miller isn't a long term answer ten you can bring another coach and they also had another year to upgrade the roster in the meanwhile. But if by chance Miller can take the team to the next level why not find out?
Because that’s the prudent, sound and smart basketball decision. And the Knicks unfortunately don’t care about that. Hopefully Rose proves us wrong.
Truly. Nothing grows here. Ever. Show promise as a rookie? He will regress in year 2, guaranteed. The only minor exception might be Mitch Robinson who hasn’t completely fallen apart, yet.
The Knicks are weird. They make the jets look... ehh the jets are weird too.
Like Greg mentioned what’s so fascinating is with tight assed tight lipped Dolan how the hell did this clown manage to get his voice out there so early and often here?? I can’t even imagine what the fallout confrontation went down or is going down as we speak.
stuff is an abject disaster, but I'm not worried about WWW. His only added value is that he is great at tampering but he can't do that if he's an official employee of the Knicks.
Not the Knicks fault, but man oh man does Zion and Ja look like great players. Will be MVP candidates in the league. Painful to miss out on those 2 one pick away.
Hopefully things finally break the right way this draft and the Knicks get a true difference maker.
Not the Knicks fault, but man oh man does Zion and Ja look like great players. Will be MVP candidates in the league. Painful to miss out on those 2 one pick away.
Hopefully things finally break the right way this draft and the Knicks get a true difference maker.
Mills probably would have still taken RJ if we had the #2 pick....lol.
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i am bowing out, i am not posting in these threads anymore, i come off as a rabid homer, good luck guys hopefully one day the knicks are good again..
Enzo go fuck yourself
Over/Under on the return is set at Thursday, 3PM
Off by a day and 23 hours!!
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i am bowing out, i am not posting in these threads anymore, i come off as a rabid homer, good luck guys hopefully one day the knicks are good again..
Enzo go fuck yourself
Over/Under on the return is set at Thursday, 3PM
Off by a day and 23 hours!!
The under was likely but not even making it a full hour is a new record!
Sure is. If Toronto drafted Mitchell Robinson he might be an All-Star by now, or at least on the fast track to being one. Has Mitch developed his offensive game at all in two years? A baby hook, a jumper, anything? Seems like the same exact player he was when he got here, like everyone else. Hopefully Dolan allows a proper housecleaning, but I'm not holding my breath.
what's ironic is that the Knicks, despite all of their problems, don't need this guy. Even though they're in the lottery every year and have had all kinds of bad PR, they're still a cash machine.
I don't think he's there for Knicks PR as much as he is for Dolan's.
GM: Malik Rose
Coach: John Calipari
C: Robinson, Tristan Thompson
PF: Randle, Wooten
SF: Bertans, Knox
SG: Barrett, Dotson
PG: Payton, Cole Anthony
That's not the worst thing, though far from the best thing. But as NYK fans its sort of what we all imagine when we close our eyes and imagine the next disappointing season.
I'll serve up the volleyball to you. "Frank Ntilikina isn't any good because....
We don't know who's running what there, and whether it's good or not. It's too soon. I'll just maintain hope that it's actually Rose in charge, and the reason you're hearing from this guy is because Rose isn't contractually in place yet.
Gee, I must have been away when the Knicks had their 2 parades down Broadway in 2008 and 2012.
Our hero!
Yeah, that's a great hot take. That must be why so many of the wealthy keep fleeing the city and real estate keeps dropping in price. Maybe you should call the folks at Hudson Yards and give 'em a heads-up.
Notice Durant and Irving signed recently, and the taxes weren't a problem for them. Dolan on the other hand...
The best part about this hot take is that literally 95% of NBA stars try and force their way to big markets so clearly they disagree with you.
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Mecca of Taxes and a rapidly deteriorating quality of life. Cable and internet streaming makes it irrelevant. You can play anywhere and be nationally/globally famous and win. And get endorsements.
Yeah, that's a great hot take. That must be why so many of the wealthy keep fleeing the city and real estate keeps dropping in price. Maybe you should call the folks at Hudson Yards and give 'em a heads-up.
Notice Durant and Irving signed recently, and the taxes weren't a problem for them. Dolan on the other hand...
I don't know where you live, but perhaps you should be better informed. High end real estate is floundering in NYC. I read it every day in the local trade sites. I don't live in NYC but I work downtown near World Trade. I'm seeing things I haven't seen since the first half of the Dinkins administration. Vagrants, panhandlers, aggressive thugs in the subway. And stuff your "hot take" comment. It's reality. I live it everyday. I left work one night and 3 vagrants were brawling over their "rights" to panhandle in front of the building. People with the means are leaving. Dolan is certainly a boob, but he's not the only problem. Subways are now routinely being delayed by "soiled cars" and "unruly passengers". Public urination is common place. So stuff your "hot take" straight up your ass. You have no clue what the fuck you are talking about.
As for petty crimes and homelessness - maybe up a tick from historic lows a few years ago, but still at all-time lows compared to 10-20 years ago.
So yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about - good luck digging in though!
As for petty crimes and homelessness - maybe up a tick from historic lows a few years ago, but still at all-time lows compared to 10-20 years ago.
So yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about - good luck digging in though!
But he saw vagrants fighting on the street one night so you must be wrong!
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When management changes happen, everyone assumes the new GM/president is going to hire a new coach. Still, it's unfair to Mike Miller - who has been nothing but professional in tough circumstances - that it was essentially confirmed by NYK on TV today:
Ian Begley
@IanBegley
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2m
When management changes happen, everyone assumes the new GM/president is going to hire a new coach. Still, it's unfair to Mike Miller - who has been nothing but professional in tough circumstances - that it was essentially confirmed by NYK on TV today:
nah, this is totally normal! Other teams have "branding gurus" appear on national TV and comment on personnel and coaches all the time!
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Ian Begley
@IanBegley
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When management changes happen, everyone assumes the new GM/president is going to hire a new coach. Still, it's unfair to Mike Miller - who has been nothing but professional in tough circumstances - that it was essentially confirmed by NYK on TV today:
nah, this is totally normal! Other teams have "branding gurus" appear on national TV and comment on personnel and coaches all the time!
That’s what really kills me. Knicks hit rock bottom and finally fire Steve Mills. Normal owner and team would re-evaluate everything and clean house while searching for the most qualified and best GM possible. The Knicks hire a player agent and marketing guru to revamp things and now preach about getting big time free agents.
Same old shit.
Link - ( New Window )
Link - ( New Window )
It'd be nice if the Knicks went one week without being a complete embarrassment
It took place during band practice.
He's not very good at his job is he?
You can’t make it up. Only the Knicks...
Good grief. What’s this guy going to deliver for the Knicks? The one thing they still don’t have a problem with is filling the Garden and getting celebrities to come to games.
Winning basketball games, however, proves elusive
He would likely end up on the long list of high profile big name coaches that have failed as a Knick coach.
Other than it's not flashy, for the life of me I don't know why they wouldn't give Miller at least one full season while they continue to improve the roster. Then by the time they actually get a more complete roster with a legitimate chance at competing at a higher level they will also have had time to properly assess what they have in Miller. He has done a better job with less than most of the "names" they brought in, in the past.
He has earned the chance of at least having the benefit of a training camp and preseason to install his own system and see what happens. They aren't going to be a championship team next season anyway and if it becomes apparent Miller isn't a long term answer ten you can bring another coach and they also had another year to upgrade the roster in the meanwhile. But if by chance Miller can take the team to the next level why not find out?
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With this sad-sack roster, that's rather good.
He has earned the chance of at least having the benefit of a training camp and preseason to install his own system and see what happens. They aren't going to be a championship team next season anyway and if it becomes apparent Miller isn't a long term answer ten you can bring another coach and they also had another year to upgrade the roster in the meanwhile. But if by chance Miller can take the team to the next level why not find out?
Because that’s the prudent, sound and smart basketball decision. And the Knicks unfortunately don’t care about that. Hopefully Rose proves us wrong.
So even if he’s the best option and you knew he’d resurrect this franchise, still no? Because he stepped down?
Not me. I want the best HC for the knicks I don’t give a fuck what he did 17 years ago.
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So even if he’s the best option and you knew he’d resurrect this franchise, still no? Because he stepped down?
Not me. I want the best HC for the knicks I don’t give a fuck what he did 17 years ago.
One of his closest friends had just died in the 9-11 attacks and he felt the need to take a step back in his life. I'll give him a pass.
Truly. Nothing grows here. Ever. Show promise as a rookie? He will regress in year 2, guaranteed. The only minor exception might be Mitch Robinson who hasn’t completely fallen apart, yet.
Like Greg mentioned what’s so fascinating is with tight assed tight lipped Dolan how the hell did this clown manage to get his voice out there so early and often here?? I can’t even imagine what the fallout confrontation went down or is going down as we speak.
Sources: William ‘Worldwide Wes’ Wesley no longer expected to join New York Knicks front office - ( New Window )
I still can’t get over the Knicks letting their newly hired “brand and marketing guru” do that abomination of an interview on live tv.
Hopefully things finally break the right way this draft and the Knicks get a true difference maker.
Hopefully things finally break the right way this draft and the Knicks get a true difference maker.
Mills probably would have still taken RJ if we had the #2 pick....lol.