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NFT: David Falk talks Knicks on FAN

Pete44 : 2/11/2020 12:50 pm
David Falk predicted in an interview on the FAN today that John Calipari would be the coach of the Knicks next season, no matter what he says.
get Chris Beard  
Ron Johnson : 2/11/2020 1:01 pm : link
from Texas Tech. Great coach.

I like Calipari but he's a recruiter, which doesn't help much in the NBA.
Beard  
Pete44 : 2/11/2020 1:14 pm : link
Chris Beard might be the next John Wooden, but this group is going for a high profile hire, for better or worse.
Bring Back Jeff Van Gundy!!!  
LTIsTheGreatest : 2/11/2020 1:22 pm : link
You want to change the culture of the Knicks and start making it attractive to top Free agents again? Van GUndy is the man!!!
Van Quitter?  
Optimus-NY : 2/11/2020 1:44 pm : link
No.
If history has taught us anything  
ghost718 : 2/11/2020 2:06 pm : link
It's that the Knicks are hosed

Calipari...  
bw in dc : 2/11/2020 2:15 pm : link
has a great gig at Kentucky. He basically has his pick of the litter for each recruiting class, is paid very handsomely, and is a king in Lexington...

Why would you leave that?
Steve Stoute  
TyreeHelmet : 2/11/2020 2:41 pm : link
Anyone see his interview on first take today? This guy is clearly now one of the top people in the Knicks organization. Worrisome to put it kindly.
RE: Steve Stoute  
Enzo : 2/11/2020 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14809012 TyreeHelmet said:
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Anyone see his interview on first take today? This guy is clearly now one of the top people in the Knicks organization. Worrisome to put it kindly.

I'm afraid to ask what he said.

RE: Calipari...  
giants#1 : 2/11/2020 2:52 pm : link
In comment 14808991 bw in dc said:
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has a great gig at Kentucky. He basically has his pick of the litter for each recruiting class, is paid very handsomely, and is a king in Lexington...

Why would you leave that?


Ego. King of NY >>>>>>>>>>>> King of Lexington.
I'll watch the whole interview later  
bceagle05 : 2/11/2020 2:52 pm : link
but I'm sure it was the typical #1 market, mecca of basketball refrain that we always hear while posting 25-30 win seasons. I hope there's some substance behind these hires, and not just style points due to better branding and a coach familiar to the fan base.
RE: Steve Stoute  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2020 2:54 pm : link
In comment 14809012 TyreeHelmet said:
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Anyone see his interview on first take today? This guy is clearly now one of the top people in the Knicks organization. Worrisome to put it kindly.


i posted in the other thread but it seems like him and rose are going to be equal, him on the marketing abd branding and rose on the basketbball side...

he is very good guy to havr in your organization..
Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 2/11/2020 2:54 pm : link
like he came off poorly


Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine
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Lengthy appearance today on
@FirstTake
from the Knicks' new rebranding consultant Steve Stoute. He called himself a "branding guru" and a "marketing guru" and is a well-known entertainment figure in NBA circles ... but the Knicks first and foremost need a TEAM-BUILDING guru
..  
DanMetroMan : 2/11/2020 2:56 pm : link

"Toronto Raptors, they brought in Drake, right? They brought in Drake to bring that thing," Steve Stoute told
@FirstTake
. "The New York Knicks brought in me."
RE: I'll watch the whole interview later  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2020 2:56 pm : link
In comment 14809022 bceagle05 said:
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but I'm sure it was the typical #1 market, mecca of basketball refrain that we always hear while posting 25-30 win seasons. I hope there's some substance behind these hires, and not just style points due to better branding and a coach familiar to the fan base.


He basically said they need to sell the players on winning cukture and new york is a place they can come to and do that..

Hiring the best management and coaches possible..

Named Rj and Mitch as the two young pieces to keep
RE: Calipari...  
Pep22 : 2/11/2020 2:56 pm : link
In comment 14808991 bw in dc said:
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has a great gig at Kentucky. He basically has his pick of the litter for each recruiting class, is paid very handsomely, and is a king in Lexington...

Why would you leave that?


He may view NYC as > KY, the NYK challenge as attractive and they can always pay him more than his current comp (8mm).
Stein's point is a little unfair...  
bceagle05 : 2/11/2020 2:56 pm : link
There's a president of basketball ops yet to be (officially) hired, followed by a general manager and head coach.
RE: Sounds  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2020 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14809027 DanMetroMan said:
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like he came off poorly


Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine
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1h
Lengthy appearance today on
@FirstTake
from the Knicks' new rebranding consultant Steve Stoute. He called himself a "branding guru" and a "marketing guru" and is a well-known entertainment figure in NBA circles ... but the Knicks first and foremost need a TEAM-BUILDING guru


that was maybe a tenth of what hr talked about..

and not for nothing his expertise is marketing...
Made  
DanMetroMan : 2/11/2020 2:58 pm : link
clear there will be a new coach, called Barrett and Robinson "superstars" and seemed to really care about promoting himself and defending himself.
RE: RE: I'll watch the whole interview later  
bceagle05 : 2/11/2020 2:59 pm : link
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Named Rj and Mitch as the two young pieces to keep

That's encouraging. I don't want any delusions about the futures of Frank, Knox, DSJ, Dotson or Trier - they're just warm bodies occupying roster spots right now.
To  
DanMetroMan : 2/11/2020 2:59 pm : link
keep calling YOURSELF a guru, and compare yourself to Drake... to worry about people claiming he fired Mills. Sorry, he came off poorly for a guy who supposedly does this for a living.
who the hell is Steve Stoudt?  
Greg from LI : 2/11/2020 3:00 pm : link
.
RE: To  
bceagle05 : 2/11/2020 3:01 pm : link
In comment 14809038 DanMetroMan said:
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keep calling YOURSELF a guru, and compare yourself to Drake... to worry about people claiming he fired Mills. Sorry, he came off poorly for a guy who supposedly does this for a living.

That's fair - marketing guys shouldn't be doing First Take anyway, but the Knicks drive that show once football season ends.
RE: To  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2020 3:02 pm : link
In comment 14809038 DanMetroMan said:
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keep calling YOURSELF a guru, and compare yourself to Drake... to worry about people claiming he fired Mills. Sorry, he came off poorly for a guy who supposedly does this for a living.


Actually stephen a called him a guru and he said he wasnt a guru
Low  
DanMetroMan : 2/11/2020 3:03 pm : link
class essentially firing Miller in an interview. Usually you don't do that to an interim coach. Go check twitter, Knicks fans across the board are saying he came off very poorly and I agree.
RE: Low  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2020 3:05 pm : link
In comment 14809043 DanMetroMan said:
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class essentially firing Miller in an interview. Usually you don't do that to an interim coach. Go check twitter, Knicks fans across the board are saying he came off very poorly and I agree.


Because people are viewing him like he is the personnel guy..

He is their for branding and marketing, so of course that is what hr is going to talk about
RE: RE: Steve Stoute  
Enzo : 2/11/2020 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14809026 nygiants16 said:
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Anyone see his interview on first take today? This guy is clearly now one of the top people in the Knicks organization. Worrisome to put it kindly.



i posted in the other thread but it seems like him and rose are going to be equal, him on the marketing abd branding and rose on the basketbball side...

he is very good guy to havr in your organization..

oh is he? You're basing this on what?
RE: RE: Low  
DanMetroMan : 2/11/2020 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14809045 nygiants16 said:
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class essentially firing Miller in an interview. Usually you don't do that to an interim coach. Go check twitter, Knicks fans across the board are saying he came off very poorly and I agree.



Because people are viewing him like he is the personnel guy..

He is their for branding and marketing, so of course that is what hr is going to talk about


Because he portrayed himself as such. He said he'd have a loud voice in the room.

"“And they got some young players — you see RJ Barrett, Mitch Robinson. They got something to work with. And getting a coach in there and ultimately getting a coach and a coaching staff that’s going to help develop a team. That’s what I expect to happen so that we can actually get to what you expect from a New York team.”

Dolan is the gift that never stops giving  
arniefez : 2/11/2020 3:12 pm : link
it's like the Onion owns the Knicks.
RE: RE: RE: Steve Stoute  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2020 3:13 pm : link
In comment 14809047 Enzo said:
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Anyone see his interview on first take today? This guy is clearly now one of the top people in the Knicks organization. Worrisome to put it kindly.



i posted in the other thread but it seems like him and rose are going to be equal, him on the marketing abd branding and rose on the basketbball side...

he is very good guy to havr in your organization..


oh is he? You're basing this on what?


because he is very good at whag he does and that is branding and marketing..

he worked with the nets with their branding...

very big in the music business and has a lot of connections..
RE: RE: RE: Low  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2020 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14809048 DanMetroMan said:
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class essentially firing Miller in an interview. Usually you don't do that to an interim coach. Go check twitter, Knicks fans across the board are saying he came off very poorly and I agree.



Because people are viewing him like he is the personnel guy..

He is their for branding and marketing, so of course that is what hr is going to talk about



Because he portrayed himself as such. He said he'd have a loud voice in the room.

"“And they got some young players — you see RJ Barrett, Mitch Robinson. They got something to work with. And getting a coach in there and ultimately getting a coach and a coaching staff that’s going to help develop a team. That’s what I expect to happen so that we can actually get to what you expect from a New York team.”


no he didnt, he even said that they are going to have a president to run the team and make those decisions...
Stoute  
TyreeHelmet : 2/11/2020 3:17 pm : link
People can downplay it all they want but reports and Stoute himself said he is heavily involved in advising Dolan. Does any other NBA team operate like this? For for a “marketing guru” he sure came across poorly in this interview.

It’s clear they are going for big free agents or bust. Which is pretty unbelievable given what happened over the summer. But my guess would be we are in for another cycle of hyping up the class of 2021 to “save the Knicks” and “ come to the Mecca”.

He also pretty much fired Mike Miller on Tv too. Bush league move for a guy who’s done a solid job.
Stoute shot down the idea he fired Mills.  
bceagle05 : 2/11/2020 3:18 pm : link
Said he wants to be known for getting people jobs, specifically “African-Americans and women.” Might be tipping his hand about Becky Hammon, too. That’s a slam dunk from a branding standpoint - in addition to her impressive resume.
Nets  
DanMetroMan : 2/11/2020 3:19 pm : link
deemed him too expensive and he his "marketing" had nothing to do with the Nets turnaround (he was with the Nets briefly twice when they moved to BK, well before the Durant stuff).
RE: RE: RE: RE: Steve Stoute  
Enzo : 2/11/2020 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14809056 nygiants16 said:
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Anyone see his interview on first take today? This guy is clearly now one of the top people in the Knicks organization. Worrisome to put it kindly.



i posted in the other thread but it seems like him and rose are going to be equal, him on the marketing abd branding and rose on the basketbball side...

he is very good guy to havr in your organization..


oh is he? You're basing this on what?



because he is very good at whag he does and that is branding and marketing..

he worked with the nets with their branding...

very big in the music business and has a lot of connections..

you never learn...
RE: Stoute  
DanMetroMan : 2/11/2020 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14809063 TyreeHelmet said:
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People can downplay it all they want but reports and Stoute himself said he is heavily involved in advising Dolan. Does any other NBA team operate like this? For for a “marketing guru” he sure came across poorly in this interview.

It’s clear they are going for big free agents or bust. Which is pretty unbelievable given what happened over the summer. But my guess would be we are in for another cycle of hyping up the class of 2021 to “save the Knicks” and “ come to the Mecca”.

He also pretty much fired Mike Miller on Tv too. Bush league move for a guy who’s done a solid job.


Agree with 100% of this.
RE: Stoute  
Enzo : 2/11/2020 3:23 pm : link
In comment 14809063 TyreeHelmet said:
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People can downplay it all they want but reports and Stoute himself said he is heavily involved in advising Dolan. Does any other NBA team operate like this? For for a “marketing guru” he sure came across poorly in this interview.

It’s clear they are going for big free agents or bust. Which is pretty unbelievable given what happened over the summer. But my guess would be we are in for another cycle of hyping up the class of 2021 to “save the Knicks” and “ come to the Mecca”.

He also pretty much fired Mike Miller on Tv too. Bush league move for a guy who’s done a solid job.

what's ironic is that the Knicks, despite all of their problems, don't need this guy. Even though they're in the lottery every year and have had all kinds of bad PR, they're still a cash machine.

I get it that this clown is going to try and change the perception of the team held by certain current players, but unless he's a hypnotist it's not going to happen overnight. Only way that changes is if they start winning and/or Dolan fades into the background.
LoL  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/11/2020 3:23 pm : link
Why are the interviewing the Knicks marketing guy? Who gives a shit.

If the Knicks hire JVG and get rid of Miller (who I think has done a good job).. I'll probably bow out of Knicks threads and just keep my pissing and moaning to my TV and dog.
So by saying  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2020 3:24 pm : link
the knicms should have the best coach and the best coaches for developing young players, that means they are firing Miller..


Sorry if i am being a complete homer but i dont see why everyone is freaking out over this interview, he is not the president of the team..
RE: So by saying  
TyreeHelmet : 2/11/2020 3:32 pm : link
In comment 14809073 nygiants16 said:
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the knicms should have the best coach and the best coaches for developing young players, that means they are firing Miller..


Sorry if i am being a complete homer but i dont see why everyone is freaking out over this interview, he is not the president of the team..


Come on you can’t be serious. We haven’t heard from Knicks management since the Sunday night impromptu press conference. Head coach fired, president fired, big trade and still nothing in the press from management. And this is the first guy we hear from? He’s clearly playing an important role. And to me having Nas’ former manager and music marketing guru be heavily involved with basketball ops is concerning.

And doing that to Miller is complete bullshit and shows you how poorly this team is run.

The sad thing is the Knicks don’t need help with the business or entertainment aspect. They do that really well- anyone who’s been to a game can attest to that. Their problem is the on court product and I’m still waiting for them to hire a competent leader to turn that around.
RE: RE: So by saying  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2020 3:41 pm : link
In comment 14809079 TyreeHelmet said:
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the knicms should have the best coach and the best coaches for developing young players, that means they are firing Miller..


Sorry if i am being a complete homer but i dont see why everyone is freaking out over this interview, he is not the president of the team..



Come on you can’t be serious. We haven’t heard from Knicks management since the Sunday night impromptu press conference. Head coach fired, president fired, big trade and still nothing in the press from management. And this is the first guy we hear from? He’s clearly playing an important role. And to me having Nas’ former manager and music marketing guru be heavily involved with basketball ops is concerning.

And doing that to Miller is complete bullshit and shows you how poorly this team is run.

The sad thing is the Knicks don’t need help with the business or entertainment aspect. They do that really well- anyone who’s been to a game can attest to that. Their problem is the on court product and I’m still waiting for them to hire a competent leader to turn that around.


He is not apart of basketball ops, leon rose is going to be president of basletball ops..

Does he have a big voice yes, but he is on the marketing side, that is what he does, he helps players off the court, that is what he said..

the reason basketball even came up is because he said that creating a winner is first and foremost..

and the whole need a big voice for a coach came from stephen a preaching about mark jackson, steve stoute just said when you dont habe the star as a fave usually the coach is the face of the franchise...

and do you really want to hear from dolan on the firing of mills?
God fucking damnit.  
Jon in NYC : 2/11/2020 3:41 pm : link
This is so dumb. Only the Knicks could fuck this up.
and he didnt fire Miller  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2020 3:44 pm : link
he just said they want to find the right coach to develop players and the right coaches on the staff, how is that firing miller?

He never said mikr miller cant be the coach, never named other names for coach, didnt say miller was doing a bad job..
i am tired of defending the knicks in these threads  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2020 3:46 pm : link
i am bowing out, i am not posting in these threads anymore, i come off as a rabid homer, good luck guys hopefully one day the knicks are good again..

Enzo go fuck yourself
RE: i am tired of defending the knicks in these threads  
Enzo : 2/11/2020 3:50 pm : link
In comment 14809093 nygiants16 said:
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i am bowing out, i am not posting in these threads anymore, i come off as a rabid homer, good luck guys hopefully one day the knicks are good again..

Enzo go fuck yourself

You'll be missed! How will we survive without your naive, useless, and typo-ridden takes on all things Knicks?

RE: RE: i am tired of defending the knicks in these threads  
nygiants16 : 2/11/2020 3:54 pm : link
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i am bowing out, i am not posting in these threads anymore, i come off as a rabid homer, good luck guys hopefully one day the knicks are good again..

Enzo go fuck yourself


You'll be missed! How will we survive without your naive, useless, and typo-ridden takes on all things Knicks?


and how do we survive without your negative little bitch takes
RE: i am tired of defending the knicks in these threads  
Jon in NYC : 2/11/2020 3:54 pm : link
In comment 14809093 nygiants16 said:
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i am bowing out, i am not posting in these threads anymore, i come off as a rabid homer, good luck guys hopefully one day the knicks are good again..

Enzo go fuck yourself


Over/Under on the return is set at Thursday, 3PM
The Knicks are like the Giants - they haven't earned  
jcn56 : 2/11/2020 3:55 pm : link
the benefit of the doubt. Granted, they've been much worse for far longer, but the symptoms are the same - a fatigued fanbase that looks upon any move skeptically.

We don't know who's running what there, and whether it's good or not. It's too soon. I'll just maintain hope that it's actually Rose in charge, and the reason you're hearing from this guy is because Rose isn't contractually in place yet.
RE: RE: i am tired of defending the knicks in these threads  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/11/2020 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14809098 Jon in NYC said:
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i am bowing out, i am not posting in these threads anymore, i come off as a rabid homer, good luck guys hopefully one day the knicks are good again..

Enzo go fuck yourself



Over/Under on the return is set at Thursday, 3PM


Off by a day and 23 hours!!
Their player  
Phil in LA : 2/11/2020 4:02 pm : link
Development is garbage.
RE: RE: RE: i am tired of defending the knicks in these threads  
Jon in NYC : 2/11/2020 4:04 pm : link
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i am bowing out, i am not posting in these threads anymore, i come off as a rabid homer, good luck guys hopefully one day the knicks are good again..

Enzo go fuck yourself



Over/Under on the return is set at Thursday, 3PM



Off by a day and 23 hours!!


The under was likely but not even making it a full hour is a new record!
RE: Their player  
bceagle05 : 2/11/2020 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14809102 Phil in LA said:
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Development is garbage.

Sure is. If Toronto drafted Mitchell Robinson he might be an All-Star by now, or at least on the fast track to being one. Has Mitch developed his offensive game at all in two years? A baby hook, a jumper, anything? Seems like the same exact player he was when he got here, like everyone else. Hopefully Dolan allows a proper housecleaning, but I'm not holding my breath.
RE: RE: Stoute  
Section331 : 2/11/2020 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14809070 Enzo said:
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what's ironic is that the Knicks, despite all of their problems, don't need this guy. Even though they're in the lottery every year and have had all kinds of bad PR, they're still a cash machine.


I don't think he's there for Knicks PR as much as he is for Dolan's.
Is Falk promoting something?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/11/2020 4:13 pm : link
He's been on the WFAN like 5 times in the past week, twice w/ Roberts & Jones.
your 20/21 Knicks  
Pep22 : 2/11/2020 4:16 pm : link
President: Leon Rose
GM: Malik Rose
Coach: John Calipari

C: Robinson, Tristan Thompson

PF: Randle, Wooten

SF: Bertans, Knox

SG: Barrett, Dotson

PG: Payton, Cole Anthony

That's not the worst thing, though far from the best thing. But as NYK fans its sort of what we all imagine when we close our eyes and imagine the next disappointing season.
lol  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/11/2020 4:17 pm : link
nygiants16 I know you're sitting there, hitting f5 every second on this thread. Don't leave. You can't quit us. You know you have that itch, that burning desire to post something positive.

I'll serve up the volleyball to you. "Frank Ntilikina isn't any good because....
RE: The Knicks are like the Giants - they haven't earned  
Victor in CT : 2/11/2020 4:20 pm : link
In comment 14809099 jcn56 said:
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the benefit of the doubt. Granted, they've been much worse for far longer, but the symptoms are the same - a fatigued fanbase that looks upon any move skeptically.

We don't know who's running what there, and whether it's good or not. It's too soon. I'll just maintain hope that it's actually Rose in charge, and the reason you're hearing from this guy is because Rose isn't contractually in place yet.


Gee, I must have been away when the Knicks had their 2 parades down Broadway in 2008 and 2012.
the whole NY as Mecca thing is over. The only thing NY is is the  
Victor in CT : 2/11/2020 4:24 pm : link
Mecca of Taxes and a rapidly deteriorating quality of life. Cable and internet streaming makes it irrelevant. You can play anywhere and be nationally/globally famous and win. And get endorsements.
RE: God fucking damnit.  
Greg from LI : 2/11/2020 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14809089 Jon in NYC said:
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This is so dumb. Only the Knicks could fuck this up.


Our hero!

RE: the whole NY as Mecca thing is over. The only thing NY is is the  
jcn56 : 2/11/2020 4:44 pm : link
In comment 14809121 Victor in CT said:
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Mecca of Taxes and a rapidly deteriorating quality of life. Cable and internet streaming makes it irrelevant. You can play anywhere and be nationally/globally famous and win. And get endorsements.


Yeah, that's a great hot take. That must be why so many of the wealthy keep fleeing the city and real estate keeps dropping in price. Maybe you should call the folks at Hudson Yards and give 'em a heads-up.

Notice Durant and Irving signed recently, and the taxes weren't a problem for them. Dolan on the other hand...
RE: the whole NY as Mecca thing is over. The only thing NY is is the  
Strahan91 : 2/11/2020 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14809121 Victor in CT said:
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Mecca of Taxes and a rapidly deteriorating quality of life. Cable and internet streaming makes it irrelevant. You can play anywhere and be nationally/globally famous and win. And get endorsements.

The best part about this hot take is that literally 95% of NBA stars try and force their way to big markets so clearly they disagree with you.
RE: RE: the whole NY as Mecca thing is over. The only thing NY is is the  
Victor in CT : 2/11/2020 5:02 pm : link
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Mecca of Taxes and a rapidly deteriorating quality of life. Cable and internet streaming makes it irrelevant. You can play anywhere and be nationally/globally famous and win. And get endorsements.



Yeah, that's a great hot take. That must be why so many of the wealthy keep fleeing the city and real estate keeps dropping in price. Maybe you should call the folks at Hudson Yards and give 'em a heads-up.

Notice Durant and Irving signed recently, and the taxes weren't a problem for them. Dolan on the other hand...


I don't know where you live, but perhaps you should be better informed. High end real estate is floundering in NYC. I read it every day in the local trade sites. I don't live in NYC but I work downtown near World Trade. I'm seeing things I haven't seen since the first half of the Dinkins administration. Vagrants, panhandlers, aggressive thugs in the subway. And stuff your "hot take" comment. It's reality. I live it everyday. I left work one night and 3 vagrants were brawling over their "rights" to panhandle in front of the building. People with the means are leaving. Dolan is certainly a boob, but he's not the only problem. Subways are now routinely being delayed by "soiled cars" and "unruly passengers". Public urination is common place. So stuff your "hot take" straight up your ass. You have no clue what the fuck you are talking about.
I live in NYC, I work in Manhattan, and I own real estate here  
jcn56 : 2/11/2020 5:08 pm : link
RE is off it's highs, true - try checking to see how far it's dropped relative to 10 years ago.

As for petty crimes and homelessness - maybe up a tick from historic lows a few years ago, but still at all-time lows compared to 10-20 years ago.

So yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about - good luck digging in though!
RE: I live in NYC, I work in Manhattan, and I own real estate here  
Strahan91 : 2/11/2020 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14809139 jcn56 said:
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RE is off it's highs, true - try checking to see how far it's dropped relative to 10 years ago.

As for petty crimes and homelessness - maybe up a tick from historic lows a few years ago, but still at all-time lows compared to 10-20 years ago.

So yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about - good luck digging in though!

But he saw vagrants fighting on the street one night so you must be wrong!
.  
DanMetroMan : 2/11/2020 5:23 pm : link

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When management changes happen, everyone assumes the new GM/president is going to hire a new coach. Still, it's unfair to Mike Miller - who has been nothing but professional in tough circumstances - that it was essentially confirmed by NYK on TV today:
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Enzo : 2/11/2020 5:26 pm : link
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When management changes happen, everyone assumes the new GM/president is going to hire a new coach. Still, it's unfair to Mike Miller - who has been nothing but professional in tough circumstances - that it was essentially confirmed by NYK on TV today:

nah, this is totally normal! Other teams have "branding gurus" appear on national TV and comment on personnel and coaches all the time!

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TyreeHelmet : 2/11/2020 5:29 pm : link
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When management changes happen, everyone assumes the new GM/president is going to hire a new coach. Still, it's unfair to Mike Miller - who has been nothing but professional in tough circumstances - that it was essentially confirmed by NYK on TV today:


nah, this is totally normal! Other teams have "branding gurus" appear on national TV and comment on personnel and coaches all the time!


That’s what really kills me. Knicks hit rock bottom and finally fire Steve Mills. Normal owner and team would re-evaluate everything and clean house while searching for the most qualified and best GM possible. The Knicks hire a player agent and marketing guru to revamp things and now preach about getting big time free agents.

Same old shit.
And the Knicks are still then most valuable team I the NBA  
PhilSimms15 : 2/11/2020 5:43 pm : link
Have to give Dolan credit for one thing, he keeps spending even though the value of the team keeps growing despite horrible basketball.
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so, basically, this Steve Stoudt character is going to be...  
Greg from LI : 2/11/2020 5:49 pm : link
....Dolan's version of Marci Turk? Swell.
and now the team  
Enzo : 2/11/2020 5:53 pm : link
just sent out a statement saying he doesn't speak on behalf of personnel decisions. Am I dreaming or is this all really happening? It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic that the guy they hired to improve their perception just got them a whole bunch of negative publicity today.
Stoute  
Strahan91 : 2/11/2020 5:55 pm : link
well there goes that
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RE: Stoute  
Anakim : 2/11/2020 5:58 pm : link
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It'd be nice if the Knicks went one week without being a complete embarrassment
hahaha.....nah, it's still funny  
Greg from LI : 2/11/2020 6:01 pm : link
Why was this guy on TV in the first place? Given Dolan's infamously draconian media policy, how does that happen?
RE: hahaha.....nah, it's still funny  
jcn56 : 2/11/2020 6:04 pm : link
In comment 14809175 Greg from LI said:
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Why was this guy on TV in the first place? Given Dolan's infamously draconian media policy, how does that happen?


It took place during band practice.
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steve in ky : 2/11/2020 6:10 pm : link
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just sent out a statement saying he doesn't speak on behalf of personnel decisions. Am I dreaming or is this all really happening? It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic that the guy they hired to improve their perception just got them a whole bunch of negative publicity today.


He's not very good at his job is he?
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TyreeHelmet : 2/11/2020 6:10 pm : link
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You can’t make it up. Only the Knicks...
RE: and now the team  
mfsd : 2/11/2020 6:18 pm : link
In comment 14809161 Enzo said:
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just sent out a statement saying he doesn't speak on behalf of personnel decisions. Am I dreaming or is this all really happening? It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic that the guy they hired to improve their perception just got them a whole bunch of negative publicity today.


Good grief. What’s this guy going to deliver for the Knicks? The one thing they still don’t have a problem with is filling the Garden and getting celebrities to come to games.

Winning basketball games, however, proves elusive
I don't understand how Calipari would improve the Knicks.  
81_Great_Dane : 2/11/2020 6:20 pm : link
He's a flashy name, but Knicks fans aren't going to be impressed by that. He has a poor record as an NBA coach. I guess he preaches defense, which is good, but he's not actually a, you know, good NBA coach. Or does that not matter because somebody thinks college hoops fans will flock to MSG to see a Calipari coached team... win 35 games?
RE: I don't understand how Calipari would improve the Knicks.  
steve in ky : 2/11/2020 6:30 pm : link
In comment 14809198 81_Great_Dane said:
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He's a flashy name, but Knicks fans aren't going to be impressed by that. He has a poor record as an NBA coach. I guess he preaches defense, which is good, but he's not actually a, you know, good NBA coach. Or does that not matter because somebody thinks college hoops fans will flock to MSG to see a Calipari coached team... win 35 games?


He would likely end up on the long list of high profile big name coaches that have failed as a Knick coach.


Other than it's not flashy, for the life of me I don't know why they wouldn't give Miller at least one full season while they continue to improve the roster. Then by the time they actually get a more complete roster with a legitimate chance at competing at a higher level they will also have had time to properly assess what they have in Miller. He has done a better job with less than most of the "names" they brought in, in the past.
They're 13-19 under Miller  
Greg from LI : 2/11/2020 6:39 pm : link
With this sad-sack roster, that's rather good.
RE: They're 13-19 under Miller  
steve in ky : 2/11/2020 6:46 pm : link
In comment 14809205 Greg from LI said:
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With this sad-sack roster, that's rather good.


He has earned the chance of at least having the benefit of a training camp and preseason to install his own system and see what happens. They aren't going to be a championship team next season anyway and if it becomes apparent Miller isn't a long term answer ten you can bring another coach and they also had another year to upgrade the roster in the meanwhile. But if by chance Miller can take the team to the next level why not find out?
It makes all the sense in the world  
bceagle05 : 2/11/2020 7:17 pm : link
to give Mike Miller a two-year deal and evaluate things year by year. He’s done a solid job, the team will lose 50 games next year regardless of coach, and he’s a cheap alternative to the big name guys (and they’re still paying Fiz NOT to coach). Plus, JVG, Mark Jackson and Thibs will all be available a year or two from now because only Frank Isola thinks they’re no-brainer candidates.
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TyreeHelmet : 2/11/2020 7:17 pm : link
In comment 14809207 steve in ky said:
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With this sad-sack roster, that's rather good.



He has earned the chance of at least having the benefit of a training camp and preseason to install his own system and see what happens. They aren't going to be a championship team next season anyway and if it becomes apparent Miller isn't a long term answer ten you can bring another coach and they also had another year to upgrade the roster in the meanwhile. But if by chance Miller can take the team to the next level why not find out?


Because that’s the prudent, sound and smart basketball decision. And the Knicks unfortunately don’t care about that. Hopefully Rose proves us wrong.
RE: Van Quitter?  
djm : 2/11/2020 7:33 pm : link
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No.


So even if he’s the best option and you knew he’d resurrect this franchise, still no? Because he stepped down?

Not me. I want the best HC for the knicks I don’t give a fuck what he did 17 years ago.
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steve in ky : 2/11/2020 7:39 pm : link
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So even if he’s the best option and you knew he’d resurrect this franchise, still no? Because he stepped down?

Not me. I want the best HC for the knicks I don’t give a fuck what he did 17 years ago.


One of his closest friends had just died in the 9-11 attacks and he felt the need to take a step back in his life. I'll give him a pass.
RE: Their player  
djm : 2/11/2020 7:42 pm : link
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Development is garbage.


Truly. Nothing grows here. Ever. Show promise as a rookie? He will regress in year 2, guaranteed. The only minor exception might be Mitch Robinson who hasn’t completely fallen apart, yet.
It’s so safe to say  
djm : 2/11/2020 9:35 pm : link
The Knicks are weird. They make the jets look... ehh the jets are weird too.

Like Greg mentioned what’s so fascinating is with tight assed tight lipped Dolan how the hell did this clown manage to get his voice out there so early and often here?? I can’t even imagine what the fallout confrontation went down or is going down as we speak.
according to Shams  
Steve in Greenwich : 2/11/2020 10:06 pm : link
Worldwide Wes not joining the front office as originally reported
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Chaos as usual over at the Garden.  
bceagle05 : 2/11/2020 10:14 pm : link
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Stoute  
TyreeHelmet : 2/12/2020 8:32 am : link
Supposedly Puff Daddy smashed a champagne bottle over Stoutes head. After watching that interview, I can see why.

I still can’t get over the Knicks letting their newly hired “brand and marketing guru” do that abomination of an interview on live tv.
LOLKNICKS  
Heisenberg : 2/12/2020 8:33 am : link
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Leon Rose right about now  
Greg from LI : 2/12/2020 9:16 am : link
Today's headline  
Pete44 : 2/12/2020 9:27 am : link
Leon Rose decides to stay at CAA, Dolan fires Stoute and rehires Steve Mills.
The Stoute  
Jon in NYC : 2/12/2020 9:30 am : link
stuff is an abject disaster, but I'm not worried about WWW. His only added value is that he is great at tampering but he can't do that if he's an official employee of the Knicks.
RE: Today's headline  
Greg from LI : 2/12/2020 9:34 am : link
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Leon Rose decides to stay at CAA, Dolan fires Stoute and rehires Steve Mills.


Rookies  
TyreeHelmet : 2/12/2020 11:16 am : link
Not the Knicks fault, but man oh man does Zion and Ja look like great players. Will be MVP candidates in the league. Painful to miss out on those 2 one pick away.

Hopefully things finally break the right way this draft and the Knicks get a true difference maker.
RE: Rookies  
Enzo : 2/12/2020 11:23 am : link
In comment 14809630 TyreeHelmet said:
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Not the Knicks fault, but man oh man does Zion and Ja look like great players. Will be MVP candidates in the league. Painful to miss out on those 2 one pick away.

Hopefully things finally break the right way this draft and the Knicks get a true difference maker.

Mills probably would have still taken RJ if we had the #2 pick....lol.
Fucking Zion is awesome  
djm : 2/12/2020 9:40 pm : link
Morant is awesome. Franchise changers. We have RJ fucking Barrett. Jfc.
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