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Daniel Jones ranked 23rd among all NFL QBS

BlueLou'sBack : 2/11/2020 11:05 pm
on NFL.com. The rankings were averaged from 4 graders who were pretty consistent among themselves. That's 10 slots below Kyler Murray, just above Mayfield, Minshew and Darnold at 24, 25, 26, with Brisset at 27 followed by Haskins and Lock.

Eli was buried deeper among the also rans.

If not for the plethora of lost fumbles, Jones obviously would have finished considerably higher.

Check out NFL.com for the rankings and comments posted 3 hours ago.
That seems about right.  
81_Great_Dane : 2/11/2020 11:18 pm : link
For a rookie on a bad team, that's pretty good. Better improve next year though.
Matt Stafford at 8  
terz22 : 2/11/2020 11:31 pm : link
Huh? Guy missed half the season.
I imagine he got dinged on ball security pretty badly  
Sneakers O'toole : 2/11/2020 11:55 pm : link
His ball placement was beyond impressive. If he can secure thar ball, sky may be the limit.
23rd seems fair though  
Sneakers O'toole : 2/11/2020 11:55 pm : link
given the turnovers.
One hopes the turnover issue is one that can be corrected  
BlueLou'sBack : 2/12/2020 12:26 am : link
to a very large extent fairly rapidly.

Eli was a pretty poor TO machine himself until the 2007 playoff run, when rather dramatically in a string of 4 consecutive game he had only 1-2 TOs.

I'm not sure I'd take any of the top 8 QBs drafted in 2018 - 2019 over Jones. Surely NOT Josh Allen (who ranked considerably above Jones) but whom I see as way too inconsistent in his accuracy of throwing.

Haven't seen enough of Murray to judge, and not sure even about Lamar Jackson, who earned a tie for first with Mahomes.

Not too sure Jackson's style is gonna fly long term. As the saying goes, now the whole league has a full year of tape on Jackson in Roman's offense designed expressly for him. Let's see how far and long it works beyond being a one year wonder.
Sounds about right  
ZogZerg : 2/12/2020 6:54 am : link
He certainly has work to do this off season.
You're not sure if Lamar Jackson  
Mike from Ohio : 2/12/2020 8:13 am : link
should be ranked ahead of Daniel Jones? What could that possibly be based on other than hometown bias? In every measurable way, Jackson has been better by a wide margin.
RE: You're not sure if Lamar Jackson  
section125 : 2/12/2020 8:19 am : link
In comment 14809433 Mike from Ohio said:
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should be ranked ahead of Daniel Jones? What could that possibly be based on other than hometown bias? In every measurable way, Jackson has been better by a wide margin.


Well, being a unanimous MVP sort of means he was the best, no?

Very interested in seeing how LJ fares this year, though. He'll be scary if he improves his throwing outside the hash marks.

Kyler Murray? Not so sure.
The better story here is...  
RedZone88 : 2/12/2020 8:54 am : link
Baker Mayfield is ranked 24th :)
RE: You're not sure if Lamar Jackson  
RC in MD : 2/12/2020 9:01 am : link
In comment 14809433 Mike from Ohio said:
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should be ranked ahead of Daniel Jones? What could that possibly be based on other than hometown bias? In every measurable way, Jackson has been better by a wide margin.


I don't think he said the Jackson shouldn't be ranked above Jones. He just said that based on his style of play, he doesn't think that he would take Jackson over Jones in the long run (at least that's what I inferred). I think Jackson is imminently talented and is a dynamic football player, but he's an average passer of the pigskin despite his gaudy stats. When he had to win with his arm in the playoffs, he crumbled with a ton of inaccurate passes. And the way he plays, he will expose himself to some bad hits that may impact his durability/availability.

I am not sure if Jones will become a true franchise QB since it's almost impossible to ever predict that, but I think beyond his turnovers, he's shown a lot of promise for us to be excited about him moving forward.
I have faith that with Garrett  
Rudy5757 : 2/12/2020 9:51 am : link
running the O Jones will improve by leaps and bounds. look at the draft positions of the players he has worked with and helped be successful. Tony Romo was undrafted and Dak was a 4th rounder. I believe that some of that success has to do with Garrett putting players in a position to succeed. I am super excited about what he can do to help Jones.

Jones deserves to be where he was on this list. There is a lot to like and a lot to improve on. While I dont think Garrett was a good head coach, I think he is an above average OC with an exceptional perspective on the QB position.
RE: One hopes the turnover issue is one that can be corrected  
Gmen1982 : 2/12/2020 9:52 am : link
In comment 14809360 BlueLou'sBack said:
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to a very large extent fairly rapidly.

Eli was a pretty poor TO machine himself until the 2007 playoff run, when rather dramatically in a string of 4 consecutive game he had only 1-2 TOs.

I'm not sure I'd take any of the top 8 QBs drafted in 2018 - 2019 over Jones. Surely NOT Josh Allen (who ranked considerably above Jones) but whom I see as way too inconsistent in his accuracy of throwing.

This is a little ridiculous. Lamar Jackson is a game changer. Jones needs to prove that.

Haven't seen enough of Murray to judge, and not sure even about Lamar Jackson, who earned a tie for first with Mahomes.

Not too sure Jackson's style is gonna fly long term. As the saying goes, now the whole league has a full year of tape on Jackson in Roman's offense designed expressly for him. Let's see how far and long it works beyond being a one year wonder.
until we see plays  
mdc1 : 2/12/2020 10:07 am : link
with him throwing the ball downfield for big plays and beating opponents he will stay there too.
RE: until we see plays  
penkap75 : 2/12/2020 10:33 am : link
In comment 14809544 mdc1 said:
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with him throwing the ball downfield for big plays and beating opponents he will stay there too.


I'm not sold on Jones at all, and he needs to prove himself in his 2nd year that he is not a turn over machine.

But he was slinging the ball all over the place and racking up pretty decent stats for rookie, so I'm not sure about your statement.

To my untrained eyes, Jones reminds me alot of Tony Romo, good bad and ugly.
RE: until we see plays  
Giants in 07 : 2/12/2020 11:12 am : link
In comment 14809544 mdc1 said:
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with him throwing the ball downfield for big plays and beating opponents he will stay there too.


Did you watch the Giants this past season?
RE: You're not sure if Lamar Jackson  
BlueLou'sBack : 2/12/2020 11:15 am : link
In comment 14809433 Mike from Ohio said:
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should be ranked ahead of Daniel Jones? What could that possibly be based on other than hometown bias? In every measurable way, Jackson has been better by a wide margin.


You misread what I wrote. I wrote that I am not sure I WOULD WANT LAMAR JACKSON GOING FORWARD vs DJ8.
Didn't Jones..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/12/2020 11:17 am : link
have one of the highest 20+ yard completions in the league?

What more does he have to do to "make plays downfield"??

He needs better ball security, but let's not make shit up to act like he's dinking and dunking shit.
Or what RC in MD already said.  
BlueLou'sBack : 2/12/2020 11:19 am : link
On point
RE: RE: You're not sure if Lamar Jackson  
Mike from Ohio : 2/12/2020 12:36 pm : link
In comment 14809628 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In comment 14809433 Mike from Ohio said:


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should be ranked ahead of Daniel Jones? What could that possibly be based on other than hometown bias? In every measurable way, Jackson has been better by a wide margin.



You misread what I wrote. I wrote that I am not sure I WOULD WANT LAMAR JACKSON GOING FORWARD vs DJ8.


Fair enough. I disagree with that take as well, but long term is much more subjective that what each has shown so far. I look at "long term" with a QB to be at the end of their rookie contract. For the next 3-4 years I would absolutely take Jackson over Jones.

To early (for me) to suggest either one is a QB I would sign to a long term extension beyond that.
Mike that's the obvious choice,  
BlueLou'sBack : 2/12/2020 12:40 pm : link
and nothing wrong with it for now. Like I said, let's see LJax year two under Roman.
RE: Didn't Jones..  
Jay on the Island : 2/12/2020 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14809633 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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have one of the highest 20+ yard completions in the league?

What more does he have to do to "make plays downfield"??

He needs better ball security, but let's not make shit up to act like he's dinking and dunking shit.

And Darnold was dead last in that category but that won't stop some from continuing to bash the Giants for not taking him over Barkley.
RE: You're not sure if Lamar Jackson  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 2/12/2020 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14809433 Mike from Ohio said:
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should be ranked ahead of Daniel Jones? What could that possibly be based on other than hometown bias? In every measurable way, Jackson has been better by a wide margin.

Certainly in playoff chokes.
Serious question  
exiled : 2/12/2020 4:30 pm : link
How do you objectively assess QB play on a terrible offense?

These rankings are ridiculous.
How would you them?  
Vanzetti : 2/12/2020 5:25 pm : link
Without looking at the list and off the top of my head:

Mahomes
Brady
Lamar
Brees
Wilson
Big Ben
Rodgers
Wentz
Dak
Goff
Ryan
Stafford
Watson
Rivers
Murray
Jones
Jimmy G
Cousins
Mayfield
Tannehill
Foles
Winston
Carr
Brisett
Mishew
Fitzmagic
Darnold
Haskins
Lock
Dalton
Mariota
Bears qb

So Jones is 16th on my list, probably because Iím assuming he will cut down on fumbles next season



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