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Lombardo - Expect NYG to pursue KC WR Robinson

Big Rick in FL : 2/12/2020 6:52 am
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@MattLombardoNFL: Per #NFL sources, expect the #Giants to pursue #Chiefs WR Demarcus Robinson when free agency begins: https://www.nj.com/giants/2020/02/nfl-free-agent-rumors-demarcus-robinson-potential-giants-target-why-chiefs-wr-makes-sense-for-daniel-jones.html
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I'm glad the link wasn't clickable  
robbieballs2003 : 2/12/2020 6:54 am : link
So I wasn't tempted to click on a Lombardo article.
Very good under the radar type signing  
Tuckrule : 2/12/2020 6:54 am : link
Would really like this move a lot. Let’s hope it happens
Eagles have been mentioned as well  
Defenderdawg : 2/12/2020 6:55 am : link
The Eagles have been speculated to be much involved with him:

“”Nevertheless, the Eagles could have another opportunity to snag Robinson. He is slated to become an unrestricted free agent next month, and per NFL sources, Roseman and company have the 25-year-old receiver in their sights”

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/demarcus-robinson-eagles-free-agent-receiver-chiefs-20200202.html
Article  
Defenderdawg : 2/12/2020 6:56 am : link
Lombardo NJ.com: NFL free agent rumors: Demarcus Robinson potential Giants target | Why Chiefs WR makes sense for Daniel Jones

“The Giants are expected to pursue Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs wider receiver DeMarcus Robinson when free agency begins, an individual with knowledge of the situation tells NJ Advance Media.”


https://www.nj.com/giants/2020/02/nfl-free-agent-rumors-demarcus-robinson-potential-giants-target-why-chiefs-wr-makes-sense-for-daniel-jones.html
And to clarify  
robbieballs2003 : 2/12/2020 6:58 am : link
Robinson has flashed so it is intriguing. We definitely need another WR but not sure how many resources we should be allocating to the position. With Shep, Tate, and Slayton there isn't much playing time to go around. Any big name WR will take time away from a player like Slayton. I'm not saying Robinson is a big name, far from it. But if he is 4th on the depth chart that is nice but in a WR rich draft like this I hope we draft one at some point.
RE: I'm glad the link wasn't clickable  
ZogZerg : 2/12/2020 6:58 am : link
In comment 14809382 robbieballs2003 said:
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So I wasn't tempted to click on a Lombardo article.


LOL.
Good call. The summary in this thread is plenty. I'm sure there is no other substance worth reading.
May or may not be interest by the Giants  
mfsd : 2/12/2020 7:02 am : link
But I generally assume the sources for most pre free agency articles like this are agents trying to create a market for their guys
Great.  
Klaatu : 2/12/2020 7:08 am : link
In a year where the draft is stacked from top to bottom with WR's, let's sign a free agent (former 4th round pick) beforehand who did 'meh' in his first three years in the league, and then had an excellent year with the Super Bowl champs. Good allocation of resources.
Whatever...i take it with a grain of salt from idiot  
George from PA : 2/12/2020 7:14 am : link
They seem to be looking for the big target type....and D.Robinson is not quit that at 6'1" 200lbs.

But fine with me.....at a reasonable #
RE: Great.  
gidiefor : Mod : 2/12/2020 7:15 am : link
In comment 14809394 Klaatu said:
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In a year where the draft is stacked from top to bottom with WR's, let's sign a free agent (former 4th round pick) beforehand who did 'meh' in his first three years in the league, and then had an excellent year with the Super Bowl champs. Good allocation of resources.


and yet a third receiver in the vein of Shepard and Tate
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Klaatu : 2/12/2020 7:18 am : link
In comment 14809398 gidiefor said:
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In a year where the draft is stacked from top to bottom with WR's, let's sign a free agent (former 4th round pick) beforehand who did 'meh' in his first three years in the league, and then had an excellent year with the Super Bowl champs. Good allocation of resources.



and yet a third receiver in the vein of Shepard and Tate


Yeah, because guys like that are so hard to find, and, after all, you can't have too many of them.
I don't get the interest in him. I certainly hope the Giants don't  
Ira : 2/12/2020 7:21 am : link
offer him a big contract.
RE: RE: Great.  
Big Rick in FL : 2/12/2020 7:39 am : link
In comment 14809398 gidiefor said:
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In a year where the draft is stacked from top to bottom with WR's, let's sign a free agent (former 4th round pick) beforehand who did 'meh' in his first three years in the league, and then had an excellent year with the Super Bowl champs. Good allocation of resources.



and yet a third receiver in the vein of Shepard and Tate


Not really. He played 70% of the snaps for KC and only 21% were from the slot. He's also 6'1 and a half. Those guys are 5'10.
Ugh yeah... we already have a bunch of #2 WRs...  
90.Cal : 2/12/2020 8:08 am : link
Why spend alot of money on Robinson? I dont think he is better than Tate, Shep or Slay. Unless he is brought in for the Cody Latimer role... unless he is going to be our 4th/5th best WR and gets paid like that... then no thanks. I doubt he signs somewhere to be the 4th/5th receiving option. He could stay in KC for that.
Dude can fly  
Dnew15 : 2/12/2020 8:09 am : link
but his hands are suspect to say it nicely...at least from what I saw.
RE: Dude can fly  
Klaatu : 2/12/2020 8:12 am : link
In comment 14809428 Dnew15 said:
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but his hands are suspect to say it nicely...at least from what I saw.


He ran a 4.59 at the Combine.
He never put up over 450  
MtDizzle : 2/12/2020 8:17 am : link
Yards in a season. He’d basically be replacing Latimer.
RE: Dude can fly  
Big Rick in FL : 2/12/2020 8:27 am : link
In comment 14809428 Dnew15 said:
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but his hands are suspect to say it nicely...at least from what I saw.


He had 1 drop last year on 55 targets
RE: He never put up over 450  
Big Rick in FL : 2/12/2020 8:33 am : link
In comment 14809436 MtDizzle said:
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Yards in a season. He’d basically be replacing Latimer.


He's never really been given a chance though. He's played on a team with an All Pro and a guy the Chiefs are paying 16 million a year.

In the 4 games that Hill missed he had 281 yards and 3 TDs. Projecting over a full season that's 1124 yards and 12 TDs.

I'm assuming the interest in him would be the teams projecting he'd be capable of being a #1 or high end #2.

We need help everywhere on the field. The more weapons for DJ the better.
RE: RE: Dude can fly  
Giantology : 2/12/2020 8:48 am : link
In comment 14809430 Klaatu said:
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but his hands are suspect to say it nicely...at least from what I saw.



He ran a 4.59 at the Combine.


6.69 3 cone. He absolutely is a speedster at WR, you know 40 times aren't everything.
While we need add to the WR unit this offseason  
LBH15 : 2/12/2020 8:56 am : link
this doesn’t seem to be the type of guy to target based on what we have already and really need.

Said above, deep draft for wideouts. That’s where to go target as long as we stop trading away our draft picks.
Our WR corps is pretty  
Metnut : 2/12/2020 9:07 am : link
below average and thin IMO. We need to add another one this offseason. Shepard is a head hit away from retirement and is a tough guy to really rely on at this point (which is frustrating because he's signed to a long term deal). Tate is still somewhat effective, but inconsistent and aging. Slayton looks really really promising, but we need another player in that unit to round out our depth.

How expensive do we think Robinson will be?
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Banks : 2/12/2020 9:10 am : link
He had 1 good game and disappeared the rest of the season. He had about 200 which includes playoffs in his last 14 games. He doesn't deserve much money
RE: RE: RE: Dude can fly  
Klaatu : 2/12/2020 9:27 am : link
In comment 14809462 Giantology said:
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but his hands are suspect to say it nicely...at least from what I saw.



He ran a 4.59 at the Combine.



6.69 3 cone. He absolutely is a speedster at WR, you know 40 times aren't everything.


No, they're not. But while his 3-cone was better than Slayton's (7.0), Slayton's 4.39 says "speedster" to me, and Slayton also killed him on the VJ and BJ. Also, I know it's history, and maybe he's cleaned up his act since then, but Robinson was suspended four times in college, twice in one season. Again, that was college, and he certainly could have matured in the past few years, but I'd want to make absolutely sure of that before I signed him.
Giants need a starter on the outside. Too many “inside” receivers  
Ivan15 : 2/12/2020 9:28 am : link
sharing the inside slot, including Engram.

As set up now, Tate and Slayton share one outside spot as Slayton develops and Tate plays out his contract. Tate, Shepard and Engram share the inside (hate to call it slot since there is an opportunity for 2 players inside at the same time). Shepard and Engram can both work outside, but neither is an ideal fit.

One starting WR is needed. Is Robinson ready?
Spend resources elsewhere.  
Big Blue '56 : 2/12/2020 9:28 am : link
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Just because some media guy tweets they're expected to pursue him  
Brown Recluse : 2/12/2020 9:34 am : link
doesn't mean they're actually going to do it.

I wouldn't expect this to be anything more than an attempt to drive up the price for other teams (like the Eagles).

This is the time of year when these teams use the media to mess with each other.

Don't get bent out of shape over stuff like this.
RE: Spend resources elsewhere.  
BillT : 2/12/2020 9:40 am : link
In comment 14809491 Big Blue '56 said:
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Exactly. WR is about our 5th priority behind OL, ILB, OLB and safety. TE might be more important as well.
Resign Coleman He'll be cheap coming off the injury  
TheMick7 : 2/12/2020 9:49 am : link
& was showing promise before it!
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Klaatu : 2/12/2020 9:49 am : link
In comment 14809500 Brown Recluse said:
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Don't get bent out of shape over stuff like this.


Too late.

The  
AcidTest : 2/12/2020 9:57 am : link
question is how much we should spend to find out if his production was limited because of all the weapons on KC. I'd be leery of spending too much because he is an unknown in that regard. We also still have Tate, Shepard, and Slayton, the draft is loaded with WRs, and as someone noted, he was suspended four times in college.
I’d rather spend precious FA dollars  
The_Boss : 2/12/2020 10:02 am : link
Along the OL (RT and OC) than for an unknown slot WR. We can get a similar guy on day 3. I’m looking at a bigger outside WR over slot WR’s anyway.
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Brown Recluse : 2/12/2020 10:03 am : link
In comment 14809514 Klaatu said:
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Don't get bent out of shape over stuff like this.



Too late.



RE: Resign Coleman He'll be cheap coming off the injury  
Klaatu : 2/12/2020 10:04 am : link
In comment 14809513 TheMick7 said:
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& was showing promise before it!


What was so promising about Corey Coleman? The five receptions he had in eight games in 2018, or tearing his ACL on the first day of camp in 2019?
I don't love Robinson, but these are the types pf under the radar  
Eric on Li : 2/12/2020 10:07 am : link
young FA I'd hope they go after. Guys with upside and not a lot of tread on them. Also presumably affordable since they are not yet established. Breshad Perriman broke out at the end of last year and he's another who fits that mold. Corey Coleman fit that mold until he tore his ACL. Latimer too, although obviously he had his chances the past 2 years and just never stepped up.
free agency will be interesting  
mdc1 : 2/12/2020 10:10 am : link
to assess the appeal of NY by players, current league standing, coaching changes, etc...

the problem with the bottom is nobody wants to be there.
in four years  
Giantsfan79 : 2/12/2020 10:15 am : link
he has 75 catches and 8tds. That's his 4 year career total. How much is that worth in Free Agency these days?
Probably should trade the 2nd round pick to the Chiefs  
Default : 2/12/2020 10:37 am : link
for early contract negotiations...
RE: Just because some media guy tweets they're expected to pursue him  
Saquads26 : 2/12/2020 10:37 am : link
In comment 14809500 Brown Recluse said:
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doesn't mean they're actually going to do it.

I wouldn't expect this to be anything more than an attempt to drive up the price for other teams (like the Eagles).

This is the time of year when these teams use the media to mess with each other.

Don't get bent out of shape over stuff like this.


Seriously, bunch of little girls around here sometimes.
RE: free agency will be interesting  
Big Rick in FL : 2/12/2020 10:51 am : link
In comment 14809547 mdc1 said:
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to assess the appeal of NY by players, current league standing, coaching changes, etc...

the problem with the bottom is nobody wants to be there.


The only thing these guys care about is money. The Giants have never had problems getting free agents. Coming off a 3 win season the top LT on the market turned the Patriots down for the Giants. I wouldn't worry too much about the coaching changes or league standing when it comes to free agency.
He replaces an aging Tate  
MotownGIANTS : 2/12/2020 10:51 am : link
who will be that much slower and getting even less separation .....

I think he could be had a moderate price. Incentive laced contract in a situation where he'll get more opportunities and has a potential win-win ... we pay more but he produces more ...
What if their plan is to release Tate  
Giants in 07 : 2/12/2020 11:07 am : link
and then sign Robinson and draft a mid round WR

They can out of the Tate contract for nothing after his suspension

Glad to see that a mere report from someone that constantly is incorrect is enough to make the broken records start to sing though about Gettleman. Should make for a really fun and totally not annoying FA period
I think people often mistake Robinson  
Leg of Theismann : 2/12/2020 11:31 am : link
for being being an ultra-fast WR because he was in the Chiefs' offense. In fact, even if you remember when they did "Legion of Zoom" feature to start off SB 54, it was Hill, Watkins, and Hardman (no Robinson). I know that's not like a truly credible source, I'm just saying I don't think Robinson was often thought of as having the same next-level speed that those 3 dudes have. Doesn't mean he doesn't have adequate speed and wouldn't be a valuable threat for us, although I would be hesitant to take any guy from an Reid/Mahomes offense considering those guys both are known for making the players around them look better than they actually are.
RE: RE: RE: Great.  
Jay on the Island : 2/12/2020 11:42 am : link
In comment 14809400 Klaatu said:
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In a year where the draft is stacked from top to bottom with WR's, let's sign a free agent (former 4th round pick) beforehand who did 'meh' in his first three years in the league, and then had an excellent year with the Super Bowl champs. Good allocation of resources.



and yet a third receiver in the vein of Shepard and Tate



Yeah, because guys like that are so hard to find, and, after all, you can't have too many of them.

Great so you're criticizing the Giants because they MIGHT be interested in a young under the radar type of player? This is also from Lombardo who doesn't have a great track record with his Giants predictions.
I would prefer to see the Giants address the WR position in the draft  
Jay on the Island : 2/12/2020 11:45 am : link
but I won't complain if they sign Robinson to a cheap deal. His numbers aren't anything special but he's still young and we have to take into account he wasn't a starter due to all the talent ahead of him. Most of the balls went to Hill, Watkins, Kelce, and Hardman.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Great.  
Klaatu : 2/12/2020 12:06 pm : link
In comment 14809668 Jay on the Island said:
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Great so you're criticizing the Giants because they MIGHT be interested in a young under the radar type of player? This is also from Lombardo who doesn't have a great track record with his Giants predictions.


Yup. I'll criticize any move I think is a bad one, regardless of who reports it, and regardless of whether or not it has even the slightest chance of actually happening. I don't like signing one-year-wonders, especially not when the team has bigger free agent fish to fry, and the draft is so stacked at WR that in all likelihood a similar player can be found on day three...and late day three at that.
How..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/12/2020 12:24 pm : link
does Robinson even fall into a "one year wonder" category??

He's a young WR who would be brought here to be a #3 for depth and would be cheap.

A one year wonder would seemingly be a player who has a breakout season and gets signed to a rich deal because of it.
RE: I would prefer to see the Giants address the WR position in the draft  
BlueLou'sBack : 2/12/2020 12:37 pm : link
In comment 14809678 Jay on the Island said:
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but I won't complain if they sign Robinson to a cheap deal. His numbers aren't anything special but he's still young and we have to take into account he wasn't a starter due to all the talent ahead of him. Most of the balls went to Hill, Watkins, Kelce, and Hardman.


They're probably aiming to do both. Leave no stone unturned. Robinson won't cost a lot one imagines.

Plus as noted it's Lombardo...
Tate's a hot dog  
aimrocky : 2/12/2020 12:47 pm : link
I'm ready to move on from him. I'm OK signing a mid level vet as a safety net to Slayton regressing, and drafting 1-2 WR's from this deep pool.
RE: Tate's a hot dog  
BlueLou'sBack : 2/12/2020 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14809748 aimrocky said:
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I'm ready to move on from him. I'm OK signing a mid level vet as a safety net to Slayton regressing, and drafting 1-2 WR's from this deep pool.


Your post makes me wonder if , in a deep WR class, the Giants won't double dip like they did with CBs last year.
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