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NFT: Fangraphs Top 120 Prospects- 2020

ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 2/12/2020 10:57 am
Prospects week is upon us at Fangraphs and today was the updated release of the top 120 prospects. Always a great read. For the 2 local teams:

Yankees:
Deivi Garcia: 42
Jasson Dominguez: 49
Kevin Alcantara: 81
Ezequiel Duran: 85
Alex Vargas: 90

Mets:
Ronny Mauricio: 35
Andres Gimenez: 103
Mark Vientos: 106

The Rays with a strong showing on the list with 8 prospects, including Fangraphs first ever 80 FV prospect evaluated. Thought this blurb on Wander Franco (#1 overall) was pretty crazy:
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This is the first 80 FV prospect of the Future Value era at FanGraphs, the best prospect on the planet, and the best Iíve evaluated during my tenure here. What does it take to draw such significant expectations? Letís first examine the statistical case. Franco has played 175 career games, all at levels well above what is typical for a player his age (he doesnít turn 19 until March). During those games, heís hit .336/.405/.523 with 71 extra-base hits, 20 steals, and more walks than strikeouts. In fact, across two levels in 2019, Low- and Hi-A, Franco not only walked more than he struck out, but walked about twice as much. He has one of the lowest swinging strike rates in the entire minor leagues, and itís possible the power hasnít fully actualized yet because Franco still hits the ball on the ground a lot (48% last year). How about the TrackMan data? Francoís exit velos and hard hit rate are both above big league average, which, again, is ridiculous for a teenager whoís playing against competition four and a half years older than he is in the Florida State League.

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Francisco Alvarez should be on there  
KDavies : 2/12/2020 11:07 am : link
he was #67 on Baseball America's. Young prospects are obviously ranked lower (ie. Jasson's upside is probably top 5), but he should still be on a top 100 list.
Fangraphs list  
bigbluehoya : 2/12/2020 11:24 am : link
tends to overweight proximity relative to many of the other well-known rankings. Unless there's a unique scouting angle that I haven't seen anywhere else, I'm guessing that's the reason.

Similar reason why Dominguez isn't higher on this list.
RE: Fangraphs list  
KDavies : 2/12/2020 11:30 am : link
In comment 14809642 bigbluehoya said:
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tends to overweight proximity relative to many of the other well-known rankings. Unless there's a unique scouting angle that I haven't seen anywhere else, I'm guessing that's the reason.

Similar reason why Dominguez isn't higher on this list.


That makes sense, as Jasson was #38 in Baseball America I believe. What doesn't make sense in that context is Mauricio so high. He hasn't made it past A ball. I like him a lot, don't get me wrong. But #35 is a bit high for him. He does not deserve to be 14 spots higher than Jasson
Dominguez  
DanMetroMan : 2/12/2020 12:10 pm : link
hasn't played, Mauricio has. That's the difference, tools or not.
Yankees were going to plop down 6 million for Franco  
Mattman : 2/12/2020 12:27 pm : link
until the International cap took affect
I think Alvarez, Baty and Allen  
Vanzetti : 2/12/2020 2:43 pm : link
Are all better prospects than Giminez and Vientos

Pleasantly surprised at how high Mauricio is

Was wondering which players the Yanks signed the year Franco was  
Jim in Hoboken : 2/12/2020 3:09 pm : link
coming out.

Heís a lot like Dominguez in that heís physically mature beyond his years. Obviously we wonít know if Dominguez will have his hit tool.
RE: Was wondering which players the Yanks signed the year Franco was  
DanMetroMan : 2/12/2020 3:14 pm : link
In comment 14809871 Jim in Hoboken said:
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coming out.

Heís a lot like Dominguez in that heís physically mature beyond his years. Obviously we wonít know if Dominguez will have his hit tool.


"Just because the June draft has come and gone, it doesnít mean the Yankees canít still add top amateur talent. Every year the July 2 signing period allows teams to sign the very best the international market has to offer. The Yankees are taking advantage of this signing period by adding five new players to the organization.

This process takes place every year, but this particular signing period is a big deal for the Yankees. Remember when the organization went crazy on the international market in 2014? As a penalty for going over their spending limit, the Yankees were forbidden from signing players to deals worth anything over $300,000. That means a lot of elite talent had gotten by in the last few years. In 2017, that restriction has finally been lifted, so now they are going back to spending.

The Yankees went big for Venezuelan outfielder Everson Pereira, who they signed for $1.5 million. In a video for Baseball America, Ben Badler described the no. 4 international prospect as a player who relies on his speed with a strong arm and very good defense. He has a fluid, short swing that should develop some power as he develops. Overall, he seems like a guy who can put the ball in play, get on base, and use his legs.

Two other players within Baseball Americaís top 50 list signed with the organization. Roberto Chrinios is a Venezuelan shortstop, who the Yankees signed for $900,000. He has been ranked as the no. 20 player in this yearís class. There is also no. 28 Anthony Garcia, an outfielder from the Dominican Republic, who signed for $450,000."
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Dan, thanks.  
Jim in Hoboken : 2/12/2020 3:18 pm : link
I will refrain from commenting on the 2014 class.

One name Iíve read about that wasnít on my radar before is Maikol Escotto, hopefully he performs well stateside.
Kevin Alcantara  
DanMetroMan : 2/12/2020 3:23 pm : link
is very interesting, enormous ceiling, very low floor.
RE: Was wondering which players the Yanks signed the year Franco was  
JesseS : 2/12/2020 8:48 pm : link
In comment 14809871 Jim in Hoboken said:
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coming out.

Heís a lot like Dominguez in that heís physically mature beyond his years. Obviously we wonít know if Dominguez will have his hit tool.


It's almost statistically impossible that he does - but he doesn't need it. Shit, a 55 hit tool and he'll start for a long time. There can't be more than a few 80 grade hitters in the whole league. For the minors, Franco is probably one of the best prospects ever - not exaggerating. Whether or not he succeeds, who knows. The amount of scouts putting 80 hit tool on him is insane. I've followed prospects closely for decades, and outside of Vladito, there's not much like him. His walk to strikes is nutty - combined with his bat to ball skills. It's like he was born to hit.
move the Rays  
RasputinPrime : 2/12/2020 11:46 pm : link
to Montreal, Vegas or Portland so we can start enjoying playing that franchise. Cowbells, the worst stadium in the league and managers that continue to play unconventionally just make it the worst games on the calendar every year.
two players on the entire list under 18 years of age  
RasputinPrime : 2/12/2020 11:51 pm : link
both Yankees prospects. We have some serious talent in the pipe with other lists launching other prospects up their lists.
Fangraphs tends to be heterodox  
Dunedin81 : 2/13/2020 8:59 am : link
that's why they have three Yankees who nobody else does - all talented, don't get me wrong - and are missing Schmidt who some rate as the Yankees best non-Martian.
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