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NFT: Knicks Chat: Victor Wembanyama.. best since Lebron?

DanMetroMan : 2/12/2020 11:13 am
7'2 French kid, not eligible until 2023... sounds... absolutely... RIDICULOUS.
7'2" French kid?  
Greg from LI : 2/12/2020 11:17 am : link
NOOOOOOOOOOO......

he has plenty of time to put on weight ...  
KDavies : 2/12/2020 11:18 am : link
and desperately needs to. Someone like Zion would snap him in half. I'll take Doncic over him any day.
Knicks chat?  
Strahan91 : 2/12/2020 11:22 am : link
The odds of the Knicks landing the top pick with a blue chip prospect at the top are like .00000001% no matter how many ping pong balls they have
RE: Knicks chat?  
Nine-Tails : 2/12/2020 11:24 am : link
In comment 14809638 Strahan91 said:
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The odds of the Knicks landing the top pick with a blue chip prospect at the top are like .00000001% no matter how many ping pong balls they have


Somehow some way the NBA will make the Lakers get that pick
RE: Knicks chat?  
Really : 2/12/2020 11:25 am : link
In comment 14809638 Strahan91 said:
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The odds of the Knicks landing the top pick with a blue chip prospect at the top are like .00000001% no matter how many ping pong balls they have


Come on, you know this is the year theyre going to win it. A year after Zion/Ja with no blue chips and a year before another loaded draft.

PS: Wasnt Emoni Bates the next lebron?
Emoni bates  
GMEN46 : 2/12/2020 11:25 am : link
Would have been drafted as a freshman in high school last year over zion williams. Same build and game as durant.
RE: Emoni bates  
DanMetroMan : 2/12/2020 11:27 am : link
In comment 14809645 GMEN46 said:
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Would have been drafted as a freshman in high school last year over zion williams. Same build and game as durant.


Mike Schmitz seems to favor Wembanyama

"Even with 6-foot-9 phenom Emoni Bates dominating youth basketball in the U.S., Wembanyama might be the best long-term prospect in the world. He is undeniably a strong candidate to hear his name called No. 1 overall when the 2023 draft rolls around."
highlights  
jestersdead : 2/12/2020 11:30 am : link
from FIBA U16
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has there been a player that tall  
KDavies : 2/12/2020 11:33 am : link
than hasn't had significant injuries? Particularly when you consider the build? Granted, he may be a unicorn, but his body just scares me. Not saying I wouldn't take him if the opportunity arises. Just that the best thing since Lebron seems overhyped.
RE: has there been a player that tall  
Greg from LI : 2/12/2020 11:35 am : link
In comment 14809659 KDavies said:
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than hasn't had significant injuries? Particularly when you consider the build?


Kareem, Shaq
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cokeduplt : 2/12/2020 11:41 am : link
In comment 14809662 Greg from LI said:
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than hasn't had significant injuries? Particularly when you consider the build?



Kareem, Shaq



Shaq probably weighed more than this guy when he was 8
RE: has there been a player that tall  
DanMetroMan : 2/12/2020 11:42 am : link
In comment 14809659 KDavies said:
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than hasn't had significant injuries? Particularly when you consider the build? Granted, he may be a unicorn, but his body just scares me. Not saying I wouldn't take him if the opportunity arises. Just that the best thing since Lebron seems overhyped.


He turned... 16 last month
RE: RE: Knicks chat?  
Strahan91 : 2/12/2020 11:42 am : link
In comment 14809641 Nine-Tails said:
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The odds of the Knicks landing the top pick with a blue chip prospect at the top are like .00000001% no matter how many ping pong balls they have



Somehow some way the NBA will make the Lakers get that pick

Seriously. More like Lakers/Cavs/Pelicans/Sixers chat
Here  
DanMetroMan : 2/12/2020 11:44 am : link
is 7'0 Kevin Durant in HS


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Regarding this year's draft...  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2020 11:44 am : link
right now the Clippers pick would be #25, but there are teams on both sides of them with similar records. It'd be great if they coasted a bit after the All-Star Break to make sure their big guns are healthy come playoff time.
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KDavies : 2/12/2020 11:44 am : link
In comment 14809662 Greg from LI said:
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than hasn't had significant injuries? Particularly when you consider the build?



Kareem, Shaq


What about this guy's build is remotely close to Shaq, or even Kareem?
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KDavies : 2/12/2020 11:47 am : link
In comment 14809667 DanMetroMan said:
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than hasn't had significant injuries? Particularly when you consider the build? Granted, he may be a unicorn, but his body just scares me. Not saying I wouldn't take him if the opportunity arises. Just that the best thing since Lebron seems overhyped.



He turned... 16 last month


Yes, first thing I said is that he has plenty of time to put on weight, and he desperately needs to.

I guess this is why I have a problem hyping a player that young with such body issues. He could develop physically like a Durant. Or he has time to sprout up a few more inches and could turn into a Manute Bol or Shawn Bradley
you asked if there's ever been a player this tall w/o injuries  
Greg from LI : 2/12/2020 11:50 am : link
I answered
'7'2 French kid'  
Del Shofner : 2/12/2020 11:58 am : link
we had one of those as a first round pick

... Frederic Weis
RE: you asked if there's ever been a player this tall w/o injuries  
KDavies : 2/12/2020 11:58 am : link
In comment 14809689 Greg from LI said:
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I answered


ok … pretend I never said "Particularly when you consider the build"

RE: '7'2 French kid'  
DanMetroMan : 2/12/2020 12:02 pm : link
In comment 14809696 Del Shofner said:
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we had one of those as a first round pick

... Frederic Weis


Weis was 22 and a pro in France. This kid is apparently the next big thing.
RE: Here  
Everyone Relax : 2/12/2020 12:03 pm : link
In comment 14809673 DanMetroMan said:
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is 7'0 Kevin Durant in HS

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This isn't photoshopped??
^^^^  
Del Shofner : 2/12/2020 12:09 pm : link
yeah, something wrong with that pic. Here is Durant in HS.

the highlight video showed a 7' 2" player  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 2/12/2020 12:10 pm : link
dunking on mismatched high school kids. He did bank in a three which was at least a foot long. He may be great someday, but not sure how you evaluate that from the highlights. Off the highlights, he is a long way from being an NBA level player IMHO.
RE: ^^^^  
KDavies : 2/12/2020 12:11 pm : link
In comment 14809709 Del Shofner said:
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yeah, something wrong with that pic. Here is Durant in HS.



First one may have been 9th grade, which is technically HS.
RE: Here  
JB_in_DC : 2/12/2020 12:11 pm : link
In comment 14809673 DanMetroMan said:
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is 7'0 Kevin Durant in HS

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That's a phootoshop.
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DanMetroMan : 2/12/2020 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14809715 JB_in_DC said:
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is 7'0 Kevin Durant in HS

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That's a phootoshop. actual slam mag photo - ( New Window )


Besides the point, still RAIL thin. Here is Greek Freak

KD's always been pretty rail thin.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/12/2020 12:19 pm : link
That was my first impression of him at Texas.
This Year's Draft  
Pete44 : 2/12/2020 12:45 pm : link
Does not look great, but top 3 seem like they will be very good NBA players with Wiseman/Edwards/Ball and possibly Cole Anthony.

Best shooter in the country that nobody ever heard of Nate Darling of U Delaware.
RE: This Year's Draft  
TyreeHelmet : 2/12/2020 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14809744 Pete44 said:
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Does not look great, but top 3 seem like they will be very good NBA players with Wiseman/Edwards/Ball and possibly Cole Anthony.

Best shooter in the country that nobody ever heard of Nate Darling of U Delaware.


Saw Darling play against Nova and he was very impressive. The guy can clearly play and has a nice stroke.

I would love for the Knicks to come away with 2 or 3 good shooters from this draft. Sign VanVleet and they finally have some shooters.
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cokeduplt : 2/12/2020 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14809718 DanMetroMan said:
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is 7'0 Kevin Durant in HS

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That's a phootoshop. actual slam mag photo - ( New Window )



Besides the point, still RAIL thin. Here is Greek Freak



Giannis is an anomaly, I’ve never seen someone physically develop in the nba like he has
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Pete44 : 2/12/2020 1:29 pm : link
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Does not look great, but top 3 seem like they will be very good NBA players with Wiseman/Edwards/Ball and possibly Cole Anthony.

Best shooter in the country that nobody ever heard of Nate Darling of U Delaware.



Saw Darling play against Nova and he was very impressive. The guy can clearly play and has a nice stroke.

I would love for the Knicks to come away with 2 or 3 good shooters from this draft. Sign VanVleet and they finally have some shooters.


My daughter goes to U Del, so I started watching their games. They started 7-0 or something, then came back to earth. Darling, if he gets his feet set, literally does not miss. I think he could have a NBA future as he has size. I think he is a junior, so potentially a 2nd rounder next year.
I  
DanMetroMan : 2/12/2020 1:39 pm : link
could name dozens of skinny players who bulked up. This isn't a 19-20 year old... he JUST turned 16

Rudy Gobert, KP

uh...

I didn't ask about skinny kids who bulk up...  
KDavies : 2/12/2020 1:56 pm : link
I am aware that happens all the time. This kid is 7'2". I am asking if anyone knows of anyone that tall and skinny who hasn't had significant injuries.

Durant is 6'10", Shaq was 7'1" with a much larger build. Kareem had a lot more muscle.

As I said he could develop like Durant (the real Durant, not the fake picture), or he could sprout up a few more inches too, and be even taller and skinnier.

Awfully early IMO to be mentioning him as being even close to being the best since Lebron. Could it happen? Sure. But there is a wide number of variables on the outcome, made even wider by the number of different ways his body could develop.

He certainly will be an interesting player to watch develop.
Kareem was pretty skinny in high school  
Greg from LI : 2/12/2020 1:58 pm : link


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KDavies : 2/12/2020 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14809718 DanMetroMan said:
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is 7'0 Kevin Durant in HS

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That's a phootoshop. actual slam mag photo - ( New Window )



Besides the point, still RAIL thin. Here is Greek Freak



Both of those pictures of the Greek Freak show a lot more significant muscle tone than I've ever seen Wembanyama having.
RE: RE: This Year's Draft  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2020 2:00 pm : link
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I would love for the Knicks to come away with 2 or 3 good shooters from this draft. Sign VanVleet and they finally have some shooters.

Agreed. The Knicks look like a completely different offense when guys like Ellington or Bullock get hot from three-point range. Miller has them moving the ball and getting good looks, but it's brick after brick from RJ, Frank, Payton and most others.
Durant  
DanMetroMan : 2/12/2020 2:01 pm : link
is 7'0 tall

Speaking to Bob Fitzgerald on KNBR, Durant put fact over fiction when answering the age-old question of how tall he really is. “Since I love you guys so much, I was recorded at 6’10” and three-quarters with no shoes, so with my shoes on I’m 7-feet,” Durant finally revealed.

Gobert is 7'1 and has played 82 games twice, 81 games 2 other times
RE: Here  
Chris684 : 2/12/2020 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14809673 DanMetroMan said:
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is 7'0 Kevin Durant in HS

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This is the most obvious photoshopped pic I've ever seen in my life lol.

You didn't really think this was real, did you Dan?
RE: Durant  
KDavies : 2/12/2020 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14809827 DanMetroMan said:
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is 7'0 tall

Speaking to Bob Fitzgerald on KNBR, Durant put fact over fiction when answering the age-old question of how tall he really is. “Since I love you guys so much, I was recorded at 6’10” and three-quarters with no shoes, so with my shoes on I’m 7-feet,” Durant finally revealed.

Gobert is 7'1 and has played 82 games twice, 81 games 2 other times


Gobert has a lot more thickness. I don't remember him being on the radar when he was that young. You able to find any pics of him when he was that age? I couldn't on a quick search.

And again, Gobert is one thing - if the kid stays the same height. The danger for him physically IMO is him growing a few more inches and looking more like a Muresan/Bol/Bradley type. Solid players, Bradley especially, but not to be mentioned in the same breath as Lebron. Ming/Smits had thicker bodies.

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DanMetroMan : 2/12/2020 2:11 pm : link
In comment 14809829 Chris684 said:
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This is the most obvious photoshopped pic I've ever seen in my life lol.

You didn't really think this was real, did you Dan?


Honestly? I found the real picture on twitter but it wouldn't copy and paste the code correctly on BBI (kept coming up blank) so I didn't really look at the "fake" one too clearly, was just looking for the same shot.
You guys  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/12/2020 2:56 pm : link
done talking about mens body mass?
This kid  
lightemup : 2/12/2020 7:06 pm : link
will never sniff the NBA. he's way too slow, at 15. He"ll only get slower as he gets bigger.
Did he call "bank' on that three-pointer?  
WideRight : 2/12/2020 7:34 pm : link

Lol. And they showed in TWICE in his highlight reel.

Next
RE: Kareem was pretty skinny in high school  
WideRight : 2/12/2020 7:36 pm : link
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Umm, Kareem never played in highschool. Lew Alcindor did
Embiid in 2011 at ~16  
You'reMyBoyBlue!! : 2/12/2020 8:07 pm : link
RE: Durant  
PhiPsi125 : 2/12/2020 8:58 pm : link
In comment 14809827 DanMetroMan said:
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is 7'0 tall

Speaking to Bob Fitzgerald on KNBR, Durant put fact over fiction when answering the age-old question of how tall he really is. “Since I love you guys so much, I was recorded at 6’10” and three-quarters with no shoes, so with my shoes on I’m 7-feet,” Durant finally revealed.

Gobert is 7'1 and has played 82 games twice, 81 games 2 other times


So, Durant is not 7 feet tall?
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KDavies : 2/13/2020 9:27 am : link
In comment 14810039 PhiPsi125 said:
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is 7'0 tall

Speaking to Bob Fitzgerald on KNBR, Durant put fact over fiction when answering the age-old question of how tall he really is. “Since I love you guys so much, I was recorded at 6’10” and three-quarters with no shoes, so with my shoes on I’m 7-feet,” Durant finally revealed.

Gobert is 7'1 and has played 82 games twice, 81 games 2 other times



So, Durant is not 7 feet tall?


Yeah, I don't get it either. How are you 7 ft tall if you are only 7 ft tall with your shoes on? Since when is height measured with shoes on?
All  
DanMetroMan : 2/13/2020 9:40 am : link
NBA heights we have heard up until this season were with shoes on. This season the NBA made a change.
Jordan, Bird, Shaq etc.. heights we know.... shoes on
.  
DanMetroMan : 2/13/2020 9:42 am : link
“ That story did point out that Durant measured at 6-9 in bare feet at the draft combine, but that everyone else in the league generally relied on heights in shoes. More accurately, some used shod height, a few used barefoot height, and a bunch of heights were more public relations than measurement.”
All NBA official heights are in shoes, aren't they?  
Greg from LI : 2/13/2020 9:42 am : link
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DanMetroMan : 2/13/2020 9:43 am : link
Dwight Howard’s phony height has been a poorly kept secret for his entire NBA career; he lost an inch and a quarter from 6-11 to 6-9.75 with the new heights. At least his Lakers teammate LeBron James has integrity on this one issue. LeBron’s longtime 6-8 was upgraded to 6-8.5 under the new rules.
The lying era was fun. Allen Iverson’s official height was listed at 6-1 for years despite being two or three inches shorter. He once got the Sixers’ PA announcer to introduce him at 6-2, which quickly became an infections idea: Eric Snow, who was probably more like 6-2 and listed at 6-3, asked to be introduced at 6-4.
..  
DanMetroMan : 2/13/2020 9:43 am : link
Dwight Howard’s phony height has been a poorly kept secret for his entire NBA career; he lost an inch and a quarter from 6-11 to 6-9.75 with the new heights. At least his Lakers teammate LeBron James has integrity on this one issue. LeBron’s longtime 6-8 was upgraded to 6-8.5 under the new rules.
The lying era was fun. Allen Iverson’s official height was listed at 6-1 for years despite being two or three inches shorter. He once got the Sixers’ PA announcer to introduce him at 6-2, which quickly became an infections idea: Eric Snow, who was probably more like 6-2 and listed at 6-3, asked to be introduced at 6-4.
Overlooked this guy  
Greg from LI : 2/13/2020 9:46 am : link
Kevin Garnett

RE: All  
KDavies : 2/13/2020 9:50 am : link
In comment 14810248 DanMetroMan said:
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NBA heights we have heard up until this season were with shoes on. This season the NBA made a change.
Jordan, Bird, Shaq etc.. heights we know.... shoes on


That was always the dumbest thing. That would be like listing NFL players weights with pads and helmet
RE: Overlooked this guy  
KDavies : 2/13/2020 9:56 am : link
In comment 14810261 Greg from LI said:
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Kevin Garnett



Garnett was still never even 7' tall at full growth. Wembanyama is 7'2" and just turned 16. Kid still could be growing. Again, I'm not going to say he's never going to make it to the NBA like other posters did.

I'm just saying that to make such bold statements as in putting him in the best since Lebron category is a little much for me before he is even fully developed, and we know whether he will have more of a Gobert-type body, or he will develop into Shawn Bradley type awkward height.
And that's not even getting into how the game is changed  
KDavies : 2/13/2020 10:22 am : link
the modern day NBA is not the days of Ewing, Olajuwon, and Duncan.

Big men are not as valued. Which was a better pick? Durant or Oden? Ayton was hyped (I liked Doncic best), but Doncic would have clearly been a better pick, as would have Young possibly.

Look what the Pistons traded Drummond for. Look what Capela was traded for. It's a huge task for this kid to live up to being even mentioned in the same breath as being the best since Lebron.
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