NYP: Patriots are ‘100 percent done’ with Tom Brady

“Everything that comes out from Ian Rapoport is just bogus-ness,” he said. “It’s fake, it’s narrative changing, it’s camouflage, it’s not the truth because there’s going to be ‘it’s not our fault’ fans. They know Brady’s not coming back.

99.6% chance he’s done

“I believe he’s done...”

But that's just based on the football and money side of it. If there's bad blood between Belichick and Brady that changes everything. I just don't see him leaving because they can't agree on a contract.

In comment 14809749 MattyKid said:

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“Everything that comes out from Ian Rapoport is just bogus-ness,” he said. “It’s fake, it’s narrative changing, it’s camouflage, it’s not the truth because there’s going to be ‘it’s not our fault’ fans. They know Brady’s not coming back.

Didn’t Cooley call out Rapsheet last winter as a potential hack last year?

Brady apparently wants more money, but he also wants the Patriots to spend more money to upgrade their offense.

After many years taking below market value so the team can invest more on both sides of the ball, why this new pivot by Brady?

he gets paid for his tb12 bs too! add em up if you want to compare how much he gets 'paid'

In comment 14809800 bw in dc said:

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Brady apparently wants more money, but he also wants the Patriots to spend more money to upgrade their offense. After many years taking below market value so the team can invest more on both sides of the ball, why this new pivot by Brady?

The pivot is probably due to some rift between Brady and the Patriots. And by Patriots I mean, quite possibly, Bellichick and what he sees as the near future direction.

So in essence, Brady is forcing the issue. Either take me back at my demands, or I'll go else where.

Breakups happen all the time.

In comment 14809817 Dave said:

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he gets paid for his tb12 bs too! add em up if you want to compare how much he gets 'paid'

Last time I checked, TB12 comp is not included in the cap.

when I see it.

...Brady probably feels vulnerable about how the future has been laid out, particularly and likely by the head coach.

So he figures let me cash in for the time I have left - and what I in my mind probably deserved - from all those years I played at a discount.

Feelings get hurt, people react.

Think about it. You'll be under paid, in Brady's mind - and also maybe lose your job or get benched. Esp if a draft pick is looming.

In comment 14809817 Dave said:

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he gets paid for his tb12 bs too! add em up if you want to compare how much he gets 'paid'

I don't think the Pats have paid for the TB12 services for a few years now, after Brady's biz partner was kicked out of the complex.

I still think they come to terms with Brady, but it would be interesting to see what they do at QB and how effective it is. I know Belichick liked the rookie Stidham, but that would be a tall order to ask him to take the reins.

to draft one of the top QB's if Brady is gone?

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There’s a “99.6 percent” chance that Brady leaves New England.

I think the odds are more like 99.4%.

In comment 14809857 Section331 said:

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In comment 14809817 Dave said: Quote: he gets paid for his tb12 bs too! add em up if you want to compare how much he gets 'paid' I don't think the Pats have paid for the TB12 services for a few years now, after Brady's biz partner was kicked out of the complex. I still think they come to terms with Brady, but it would be interesting to see what they do at QB and how effective it is. I know Belichick liked the rookie Stidham, but that would be a tall order to ask him to take the reins.

But doesn't Brady still operate TB12 out of a Kraft-owned facility for free (or at least a significant discount)? Even if the Pats aren't paying for the services anymore, if Brady is using Kraft-owned things for his business and saving on overhead that way that is essentially payment going to Brady.

training camp next year. He clearly looked to be significantly declined as last season went on.

The Patriots are playing for superbowls and BB looks like one of the least sentimental humans around. I'm not surprised that they are thinking about moving on, especially if Tom is playing hardball when it comes to salary or wants a multiyear committment.

He saw how awkward it got at the end with Eli Manning at the end. Could easily end up the same with Brady and maybe the Pats are going to be ruthlessly pragmatic and think that it's better off to move on one year too early rather than too late.

How much would the Pats give to get their next franchise QB (with say the #4 over-all pick) ?

Their choice of probably Hebert, Tua, Eason ?

In comment 14809906 Manny in CA said:

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How much would the Pats give to get their next franchise QB (with say the #4 over-all pick) ? Their choice of probably Hebert, Tua, Eason ?

Or Love

In comment 14809906 Manny in CA said:

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How much would the Pats give to get their next franchise QB (with say the #4 over-all pick) ? Their choice of probably Hebert, Tua, Eason ?

I wouldn't be surprised if they select Jake Fromm. He has a lot of the qualities that the Patriots like and he could fall to them as opposed to trading a bounty to move all the way up into the top 10.

In comment 14809914 Jay on the Island said:

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In comment 14809906 Manny in CA said: Quote: How much would the Pats give to get their next franchise QB (with say the #4 over-all pick) ? Their choice of probably Hebert, Tua, Eason ? I wouldn't be surprised if they select Jake Fromm. He has a lot of the qualities that the Patriots like and he could fall to them as opposed to trading a bounty to move all the way up into the top 10.

Could be. But I think they like Herbert

The Pats got their last "franchise QB" in the sixth round, and BB has done very well over the years with pick #32.

As I have said over and over in all the stupid "franchise QB" threads - it does not matter where you pick. What matters is who does the picking.

I doubt he leads the Pats back to 12 or more wins let alone a Super Bowl. And he’s unlikely to get it done elsewhere at his age.

Part of me thinks it’d be appropriate for him to stay and retire a Patriot. The other part of me would enjoy watching Patriots fans squirm as Brady goes elsewhere.

my relatives in Boston and Cape Cod think Brady is done and that the Pats would be better off without him - I find it hard to believe but that's what they are telling me

Brady doesn’t have the same value to the other teams that he does with the pats. The other nfl teams that need qbs do not value tom Brady the way the pats do. Chargers, colts, Bucs, raiders and titans need qbs theoretically. Out of those teams named only one has a solidified offensive line who can protect a pure pocket passer. That being the colts. They should sign rivers to 2 years and 50 million. Save a ton of cap space and build a winner in the next 2 years. You take on Brady’s salary if your the colts your looking at 35 million per year for a player who’s almost the same as Philip rivers at this point in their careers. Brady doesn’t have any leverage. It’s pats or he’s retired.

Fauria responded to the publishing of this story by reiterating that “This is my personal OPINION.”

Jake Fromm at the end of round 1 seems like a very pats-like QB selection.

In comment 14809835 bw in dc said:

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In comment 14809817 Dave said: Quote: he gets paid for his tb12 bs too! add em up if you want to compare how much he gets 'paid' Last time I checked, TB12 comp is not included in the cap.

No it doesn't, but it sure does compensate for the "discount" he supposedly gives