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Del Shofner : 2/12/2020 7:41 pm
yes, the absurdity of a Knicks game thread in this crazy season.

I'm rooting for Mike Miller.

Beal upset he didn't make the all-star team - averaging 29.1.

Taj-Randle-Bullock-RJ-Payton starting. Not clear if Harkless is available yet.
Beal isn't wrong.  
Strahan91 : 2/12/2020 7:50 pm : link
Should've made it over Lowry who may not even be the best guard on his own team. Also would've voted for him over Simmons.
Miller responding in a classy way to the Stoute BS  
Del Shofner : 2/12/2020 7:51 pm : link
- announcers not pulling punches in saying how wrong Stoute was.
Yeah, great job by Breen and Wally  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2020 7:53 pm : link
coming to Millerís defense and blasting Stoute a bit - he made a fool of himself yesterday.
Harkless comes in  
Del Shofner : 2/12/2020 7:54 pm : link
- making Knicks debut.
Watching this one  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2020 8:01 pm : link
is going to be a real chore. Might have to check in and out.
DSJ is horrendous.  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2020 8:04 pm : link
.
Smith jr and Randle  
ghost718 : 2/12/2020 8:09 pm : link
What a pair

They'd have a hard time beating Brad Lohaus and Blue Edwards in NBA Jam
Nice  
AcidTest : 2/12/2020 8:28 pm : link
play by the Knicks after they missed the three.
Barrett  
Jon in NYC : 2/12/2020 8:59 pm : link
needs to improve his jumper in the worst way. No defender respects his shot.
Payton  
Jon in NYC : 2/12/2020 9:04 pm : link
honestly may be the best player on this team.
2-18 from three.  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2020 9:15 pm : link
Need shooters. Desperately.
Portis sure plays a lot of minutes.  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2020 9:24 pm : link
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Portis is  
GMEN46 : 2/12/2020 9:28 pm : link
So painful to watch right and sadly knox is worse. I feel bad for Knox, the pst 15 games or so for Knox May be playing the worst basketball I have ever seen from a nba player. No exaggerations he has not shown anything positivr
And Portis gets ejected.  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2020 9:33 pm : link
Not warranted, but still stupid.
The Knicks really miss Morris. It was a good trade for the future,  
Ira : 2/12/2020 9:33 pm : link
but it's hurting them right now.
Randle is a turnover machine.  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2020 9:34 pm : link
Itís insane.
So tired of watching a team  
Chris L. : 2/12/2020 9:50 pm : link
that simply can not shoot the basketball! In an age where shooting has never been more emphasized in the NBA we can't shoot a lick.
Mercifully, we've made it to the All-Star Break.  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2020 10:05 pm : link
I need a week off from these losers.
Portis  
TyreeHelmet : 2/13/2020 8:49 am : link
Is so bad. To me he should be getting the vet min not 15 million a year. Hopefully they buy him out.

And Iím definitely worried about Barrett. His lack of foot speed and overall athleticism is jarring. Iím not sure what heís going to excel at going forward. Maybe heís still hurt but not liking what Iím seeing.

And please just move on from DSJ. Donít care that the KP trade was a massive ripoff- just move on from the mistake. Heís awful.
I tried to tell you guys about Barrett  
Greg from LI : 2/13/2020 9:21 am : link
That he couldn't shoot at all and he is a subpar athlete by NBA standards with little explosion to his game.

This is a nightmare I doubt we ever wake up from until we get new ownership.
TEDx  
sometimeswrite : 2/13/2020 9:48 am : link
intervention needed here...
Barrett is starting to play exactly like Randle  
ghost718 : 2/13/2020 10:09 am : link
minus the shitty passes
Pretty hopeless indeed, at the moment.  
bceagle05 : 2/13/2020 10:12 am : link
Only "upside" is the incoming regime doesn't have to clean up a mess from a salary cap standpoint, and has plenty of draft picks. Previous regimes were doomed from the start. If Leon Rose is confident in his abilities, I'm sure he sees an opportunity here. Still can't believe Stoute went on First Take - there are plenty of softer landing spots if you want to get your pro-Knicks message out there. Stephen A. and Max are just gonna troll you.
RE: I tried to tell you guys about Barrett  
widmerseyebrow : 2/13/2020 10:18 am : link
In comment 14810234 Greg from LI said:
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That he couldn't shoot at all and he is a subpar athlete by NBA standards with little explosion to his game.

This is a nightmare I doubt we ever wake up from until we get new ownership.


Anyone picked after Barrett looking like the goods? I'd like to torture myself some more.
So far....  
Greg from LI : 2/13/2020 10:35 am : link
Jaxon Hayes, Rui Hachimura, and Brandon Clarke are all looking good. Hayes is the big surprise there for me, I thought he had bust written all over him.

Clarke at #21 is looking like the steal of the draft. Only Zion and Ja have been better.
Barrettís lack of athleticism  
GMEN46 : 2/13/2020 2:43 pm : link
I got crushed on here when I said after his first summer league game that I could tell right away he will never be star because he is very unathletic.. He will certainly get better as a player and has the work ethic, but he looks like a 40 year veteran when he tries to speed dribble up the floor. He is so slow. His upside to me is hopefully 3rd best player kn a contending team. Knox has been awful but I hid upside is way higher than Barrett but he seems like he lacks the mental part to get there.
ex-Knick related  
Strahan91 : 2/13/2020 2:47 pm : link
really sad Players Tribune article by Eddy Curry. Can't help but feel for the guy given all the jokes made about him over the years (myself included)
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When the Knicks landed in the #3 spot in the lottery  
bceagle05 : 2/13/2020 3:02 pm : link
I was pushing the idea that they should trade down with Atlanta for #8 and #10 and take Tyler Herro and Brandon Clarke. Before I pat myself on the back too much, my reasoning was that those two guys would be effective role players around KD and Kyrie, while RJ would be an awkward fit. Welp. Turns out that trade still would've been a good one.

Not much to be excited about right now. Leon Rose should be given the freedom to trade anyone on this roster, including RJ and Mitch.
RE: Barrettís lack of athleticism  
TyreeHelmet : 2/13/2020 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14810593 GMEN46 said:
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I got crushed on here when I said after his first summer league game that I could tell right away he will never be star because he is very unathletic.. He will certainly get better as a player and has the work ethic, but he looks like a 40 year veteran when he tries to speed dribble up the floor. He is so slow. His upside to me is hopefully 3rd best player kn a contending team. Knox has been awful but I hid upside is way higher than Barrett but he seems like he lacks the mental part to get there.


His defense is alarming too. Doesnít have good feet or lateral quickness. I know itís early and heís young, but I just donít see it with him.
fwiw  
Strahan91 : 2/13/2020 6:02 pm : link
Givony and Mike Schmidt did a mock draft of guys in the rising stars game based on potential and Barrett slotted in at 7 ahead of Ayton, Clarke and Herro. Schmidt wrote:

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I wasn't as high on Barrett pre-draft as some, but this is great value here in this mock draft, and I think it would be wise to not overreact to an ugly rookie season for a 19-year-old.

Barrett's 46.7% true shooting is historically bad for a top-three pick, but he deserves a bit of a pass, given the Knicks' porous roster construction. Barrett is an aggressive, physical slasher who needs space to operate. Unfortunately, the Knicks are arguably the worst shooting team in the NBA, ranking last in made 3s and bottom-five in 3-point percentage. That lack of spacing is a big reason Barrett is shooting just 41% at the rim in the half court and ranks in the 12th percentile on pull-up jumpers.

Barrett is a better player than he has been able to show with this Knicks group, and New York's drafting a player such as LaMelo Ball could help his efficiency. I'll bet on Barrett's work ethic and competitiveness as reasons he'll evolve into a very good NBA player in time.

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Just sucks that we missed out  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/13/2020 7:08 pm : link
by 1 pick on Morant. Then again, we did with Curry too. This franchise is snake-bitten.
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