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NFT: NHL Trade Deadline Discussion - A Week and a Half out

pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 10:03 am
The next 7 days will solidify some things, teams hanging on to wild card hope will fade and become sellers (Canadiens) and other teams will thrive and become buyers CBJ, PHI

There will be injuries (McDavid, Bouwemeister) that could make some teams in contention become buyers or other injuries (Weber) that enforce other teams should be sellers.

Right now the Athletic has articles of both the top players (from Custance) likely to be traded and top prospects (from Pronman) likely to be traded.

The players include Kreider (#1), Kovalchuck (where did his resurrection come from?), Hoffman, Georgiev, etc.

and prospects include Puljujarvi, Lias Andersson, Honka, Bracco (etc.)

I thought this year the deadline might be active, but the list of names seems really bereft of marquee players, so who knows.

I don't know what to expect.

Seems like a sellers market though even if NHL teams are hesitant to trade for rentals.
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RE: We need some asshat scoop  
Greg from LI : 2/18/2020 11:20 am : link
In comment 14813171 Anakim said:
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Where's Seth when you need him?


Hunger strike in support of the Wilpons.
I think Jay Bouwmeester  
pjcas18 : 2/18/2020 11:31 am : link
career is likely over. He's fortunate to be alive.

I bet STL would be a destination for a D.
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DanMetroMan : 2/18/2020 2:25 pm : link

Sens Communications
@Media_Sens
Trade alert: The #Sens have acquired a 2020 third-round draft pick from
@NHLJets
in exchange for defenceman Dylan DeMelo.
Habs dealing...  
JPinstripes : 2/18/2020 4:00 pm : link
Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
· 3m
The Canadiens have acquired St. Louis’ second-round pick in the 2020 NHL Draft (and a conditional fourth-round pick in 2021), in exchange for defenseman Marco Scandella.

#GoHabsGo

https://nhl.com/canadiens/news
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 2/18/2020 4:01 pm : link
pulled off a great move.

Acquired Marco Scandella for a 4th in January, trade him in February for a 2nd.

(to the Blues, who I had pegged as a D destination).

I wouldn't be surprised if they add another D.
CAPS dealing  
JPinstripes : 2/18/2020 4:02 pm : link
Washington Capitals
@Capitals
Welcome to Washington, @BDillon04
!!

The Washington Capitals have acquired defenseman Brenden Dillon from the San Jose Sharks for a 2020 second round pick (originally acquired from Colorado) and a conditional 2021 third round pick

Full Details: https://washca.ps/DillonTrade
Nice work  
pjcas18 : 2/18/2020 4:05 pm : link
JP - keep the updates coming. D flying off the shelves.

Habs  
pjcas18 : 2/18/2020 4:17 pm : link
keep 50% of Scandella salary.

MTL now has 3 second round picks for the upcoming draft which will be held in MTL.

Here you go PJ - Habs Draft stacked  
JPinstripes : 2/18/2020 4:18 pm : link
CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
·
11m
The Montreal #Canadiens now have 12 picks in the upcoming 2020 Entry Draft

5 of those picks are in the first three rounds

1st RD - 1
2nd RD - 3
3rd RD - 1
4th RD - 3
5th RD - 2
6th RD - 1
7th RD - 1
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pjcas18 : 2/18/2020 4:20 pm : link
Forever Blueshirts
@4EverBlueshirts
·
1m
With 2 games to go before the deadline it’s sound likely that the #NYR will likely scratch Jesper Fast or Chris Kreider for newly acquired Julien Gauthier. The 22 year old beast of a forward is #NHL ready.
Kings-Vegas Deal Getting Close  
JPinstripes : 2/18/2020 4:56 pm : link
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
·
8m
It’s not done yet, but VGK and LA are working to try to finalize a deal that would send defenceman Alec Martinez to the Golden Knights. Most telling sign will be if Martinez is in or out of the Kings’ lineup tonight vs. WPG.
Devils - getting hot!  
JPinstripes : 2/18/2020 4:58 pm : link
New Jersey Devils 🅙
@NJDevills

#NJDevils
forward Kyle Palmieri will be held out of tonights game for precautionary reasons.
RE: CAPS dealing  
2cents : 2/18/2020 5:06 pm : link
In comment 14813547 JPinstripes said:
Quote:
Washington Capitals
@Capitals
Welcome to Washington, @BDillon04
!!

The Washington Capitals have acquired defenseman Brenden Dillon from the San Jose Sharks for a 2020 second round pick (originally acquired from Colorado) and a conditional 2021 third round pick

Full Details: https://washca.ps/DillonTrade


saw a clip of him getting very emotional over the idea of leaving San Jose, seemed genuine and like a good dude. Sucks i have to root against him now.
Seems like Isles are really going after  
Metnut : 2/18/2020 7:31 pm : link
Krieder but want to work out an extension first. For an extended Kreider, I’d offer a 1st, Wilde and Wahlsrom. Maybe even more.
I'd rather see Kreider just walk than see him playing for the fucking  
Greg from LI : 2/18/2020 7:41 pm : link
Islanders
Kreider and Avs  
pjcas18 : 2/18/2020 8:46 pm : link
picking up steam. Tatar is allegedly a backup plan if they can't come to agreement.
Hockey buzz  
Jay in Toronto : 2/18/2020 10:10 pm : link
reports hearing that chances of Kreider resigning with Rangers have decreased from 50% to 25% over the last couple of days.
Kreider and Boston  
jv : 2/19/2020 7:45 am : link
makes no sense other than he's from the area. Their farm system is among the worst in the league. They have nothing to offer that other teams can't beat with ease.

The Av's make so much sense unless the Islanders overpay.
CK's value to NYR is higher than to any other team  
ColHowPepper : 2/19/2020 7:55 am : link
imo, of course. What I mean by this is that the 'explosion' of his offensive game has come in the context of chemistry and talent of his linemates, and we've not quite seen this game from him before, have we? By saying this I am not saying we should not trade him regardless of the package, only that I think he may not flourish with a different club the same way he has the last 25 games.
Would Kreider  
Jay in Toronto : 2/19/2020 8:41 am : link
have gotten Fote from TB?

The AVs make a lot of sense for a package. They are literally 'hurting' in goal and forward and Georgy plus one or some combination of Kreider, Fast, Strome could make for a blockbuster.
RE: Devils - getting hot!  
Stu11 : 2/19/2020 8:49 am : link
In comment 14813597 JPinstripes said:
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New Jersey Devils 🅙
@NJDevills

#NJDevils
forward Kyle Palmieri will be held out of tonights game for precautionary reasons.

FYI this was a bogus report from a fake Devils page. Be careful of that this time of year. Don't feel bad though Fox sports1 got faked out too they had it on their scroll during the Penn St.-Illinois game that's where I saw it.
had it on their scroll during the Penn St.-Illinois game  
ColHowPepper : 2/19/2020 8:55 am : link
GTFOH (: On this God's green earth, why?
.  
pjcas18 : 2/19/2020 12:22 pm : link
Forever Blueshirts
@4EverBlueshirts
· 21h
Some noise that Jesper Fast could be traded before game tomorrow. #NYR
that window getting ever tighter  
ColHowPepper : 2/19/2020 12:58 pm : link
.
Mercogliano (does a good job for LoHud)  
ColHowPepper : 2/19/2020 1:30 pm : link
damn, still 3 goalies ):
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Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
·
39m
Chris Kreider is watching practice from the bench in a hoodie. A handful of veteran types aren’t skating. No Jesper Fast, either, along with Mika Zibanejad, Artemi Panarin, Pavel Buchnevich, Brady Skjei and Marc Staal.

All 3 goalies are here. #NYR
Now just 4 days left  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2020 2:41 pm : link
Kase to Boston, but Backes was included - freeing up salary, so the B's could be involved on more.

Also, found this interesting:

Igor Eronko
@IgorEronko
·
1m
Per @SFedotoF
Ilya Sorokin's rights are gonna be traded to the Blackhawks soon. I'm hearing the opposite. Lou met Sorokin's agent. There're some requirements from Ilya's side, A and B bonuses and Euro clause. 99% chance Sorokin coming to the NHL next year #Isles
#Blackhawks
Sorokin's a really talented netminder  
Torrag : 2/21/2020 2:49 pm : link
Personally I always ranked Igor just above him based on his elite rebound control but it's a coin toss.
Sounds like it's done  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2020 3:30 pm : link


Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
· 13m
Sources say the Islanders have traded Ilya Sorokin’s rights to Chicago.
Dreger took it back already and said chicago confirmed no deal  
Eric on Li : 2/21/2020 3:31 pm : link
so who knows. If they do trade Sorokin to Chicago, I wouldn't mind Lehner coming back the other way.
RE: Sounds like it's done  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2020 3:32 pm : link
In comment 14815727 pjcas18 said:
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Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
· 13m
Sources say the Islanders have traded Ilya Sorokin’s rights to Chicago.


backtrack.

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
·
4m
Sorokin has not been traded to Chicago. Despite the fact his teammates and others in Moscow believed to this be the case. Chicago sources have confirmed no trade. My mistake.
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pjcas18 : 2/21/2020 3:49 pm : link
J
@Account4hockey
· 2m
Elliotte Friedman on CHED630:

NYI, COL still interested in Kreider. BOS preferred a RW vs LW. Kreider more likely to be traded than re-signed. If WSH could move Nick Jensen maybe they would go in. STL lurking. People think Pageau wants to stay in OTT.
To say the Devils season has been a disappointment  
Jay on the Island : 2/22/2020 10:40 pm : link
Is a huge understatement but one of the few bright spots this season has been Mackenzie Blackwood. Blackwood is one of the leagues best young goalies and has established himself as the long term answer in net for the Devils.

Over his past 15 games Blackwood has a .930 save % and over the past 9 games it’s at .949. For the season he is up to .916 sv% despite a slow start due to an injury. Blackwood’s numbers are more impressive when you consider how bad the Devils defense has been this season.

One of the main reasons the Devils season fell apart was because Ray Shero didn’t have a contingency plan in place in the event that Cory Schneider struggled. Had the Devils signed Robin Lehner it’s possible that they could have been battling for a playoff spot with Lehner and Blackwood splitting time.

With all that said I would love to see the Devils try to acquire Sorokin if the Isles have really made him available. Sorokin and Blackwood would give the Devils a great tandem to split time. The Devils have plenty of picks to get a deal done or he could be part of a package for Palmieri.
Big impact  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2020 9:45 am : link
last night in TOR.

Canes lose two goalies and top 4 D, Pesce.

Rumored to be in on Bogosian (cleared waivers) and many goalies.

Seems like an intra-division match with the Rangers and also the Canadiens.
RE: To say the Devils season has been a disappointment  
Stu11 : 2/23/2020 1:12 pm : link
In comment 14816499 Jay on the Island said:
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Is a huge understatement but one of the few bright spots this season has been Mackenzie Blackwood. Blackwood is one of the leagues best young goalies and has established himself as the long term answer in net for the Devils.

Over his past 15 games Blackwood has a .930 save % and over the past 9 games it’s at .949. For the season he is up to .916 sv% despite a slow start due to an injury. Blackwood’s numbers are more impressive when you consider how bad the Devils defense has been this season.

One of the main reasons the Devils season fell apart was because Ray Shero didn’t have a contingency plan in place in the event that Cory Schneider struggled. Had the Devils signed Robin Lehner it’s possible that they could have been battling for a playoff spot with Lehner and Blackwood splitting time.

With all that said I would love to see the Devils try to acquire Sorokin if the Isles have really made him available. Sorokin and Blackwood would give the Devils a great tandem to split time. The Devils have plenty of picks to get a deal done or he could be part of a package for Palmieri.

Agreed. Also very encouraging is the play of Bratt and Nico recently. They are really taking that next step. The goalie #'s For Devils goalies besides Blackwood this year are: 3-16-3 with a GAA of well above 4. Thats not bad, thats worst in the NHL bad. I've really embraced building around kids. While I like Palms and be fine signing him to another contract after next season, I'd also be ok if we got a similiar package for him as we got for Coleman especially if it includes a Foote level type prospect on defense.
I am open to trading Palmieri  
Jay on the Island : 2/23/2020 2:29 pm : link
as long as the return is fair.

Bratt's performance lately has been a big relief. If Palmieri is traded Bratt may very well find himself on the top line next season if he continues to play this well. Obviously he is better suited as a 2nd or 3rd line wing but he will be one of the Devils best forwards after all the trades.

Nolan Foote will be in the NHL next season along with Ty Smith. Also it sounds like the Devils will try hard to sign D Reilly Walsh to an ELC. The other prospects who might sign are D Kevin Bahl, C Mitchell Hoelscher, and Aarne Talvitie. 2019 2nd round pick D Nikita Okhotyuk has already signed his ELC but will likely begin his career in the AHL.

The Devils will struggle with all the youth but it will be fun watching all these young kids develop. Hopefully the Devils land some solid young FA's to add some much needed experience to the roster.

The Devils need to move Vatanen and Simmonds for whatever they can get. At this point I would be happy with a 2nd for Vatanen. Carolina might have interest in Vatanen now and perhaps they would consider Cory Schneider if the Devils eat most of his $6 million cap number this season and next.

The Devils will once again have a lot of cap room this offseason which they can use to their advantage by helping out cap strapped teams in exchange for draft picks or players like they did when they acquired Palmieri, Johansson, and Gusev.

we've talked about it Jay but I'd love colemanesque NYI deal for KP  
Eric on Li : 2/23/2020 4:25 pm : link
NYI 1st
1 of Wilde/Bellows/Sorokin (would depend on what he's asking for in negotiations)

If Zajac is willing to waive I wouldn't mind adding a pick to include him too if NJD retain some $.

Between those 2 and Greene it would be kind of funny because it would basically turn the Islanders into the Isles plus the Devils 3 captains/AC.
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pjcas18 : 2/23/2020 8:03 pm : link
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
· 13m
Zach Bogosian has reached an agreement with the Tampa Bay Lightning.
RE: we've talked about it Jay but I'd love colemanesque NYI deal for KP  
Jay on the Island : 2/23/2020 8:07 pm : link
In comment 14816821 Eric on Li said:
Quote:
NYI 1st
1 of Wilde/Bellows/Sorokin (would depend on what he's asking for in negotiations)

If Zajac is willing to waive I wouldn't mind adding a pick to include him too if NJD retain some $.

Between those 2 and Greene it would be kind of funny because it would basically turn the Islanders into the Isles plus the Devils 3 captains/AC.


I was a big fan of Bode Wilde in the draft. I wanted the Devils to draft K'Andre Miller or Wilde with the 17th pick that year because I didn't expect Ty Smith to fall that far. It sucked to see both of those players end up with the Rangers and Isles.

I don't know much about Bellows but I would be happy with Wilde or Sorokin and an unprotected 2021 1st. This years first currently has more value but we know that pick will be in the mid to late 20's. Next season if the Isles suffer several injuries, the goaltending struggles, older players lose a step, etc. that pick could be much higher.

As for Zajac he will veto any trade. The Islanders and Devils reportedly had a trade agreed to a few weeks ago but he blocked the trade. He would have been a good fit for the Islanders. He isn't a dynamic offensive player but he is excellent defensively and on face-offs. For some reason he doesn't want to leave the Devils despite being 34 and on a rebuilding team.

I wish more players felt that way about being a Devil but part of me wishes he would accept a trade so that they acquire a draft pick and it would give him a shot to win the stanley cup. Zajac's experience and leadership will be useful because the Devils are a very young team that will continue to get younger.

The Devils currently have their 1st, which will likely be in the top 10 possibly even top 5 with some more lottery luck, and two conditional 1st's (Canucks and Coyotes). If both conditions are met the Devils will get both of those teams unprotected 2021 1st's. Hopefully with some luck at least one of those picks ends up in 2021 and that team struggles mightily landing the Devils a top 10 pick.
Kovalchuck  
Jay in Toronto : 2/23/2020 8:24 pm : link
To Washington
Kovalchuck  
Jay in Toronto : 2/23/2020 8:26 pm : link
To Washington
kovalchuk really hasn't done much since returning to north america  
Torrag : 2/23/2020 8:29 pm : link
We'll see what he can bring to the Caps at this stage of his career.
Kovy still  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2020 8:37 pm : link
has hints of his old self was good in MTL with a good attitude.

But Bergevin having a good run.

Turns Scandella (acquired for a 4th) into a 2nd
Turns Kovy, league min FA, into a 3rd

Canadiens loading up picks for the MTL draft.
RE: Kovy still  
Jay in Toronto : 2/23/2020 8:43 pm : link
In comment 14816916 pjcas18 said:
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has hints of his old self was good in MTL with a good attitude.

But Bergevin having a good run.

Turns Scandella (acquired for a 4th) into a 2nd
Turns Kovy, league min FA, into a 3rd

Canadiens loading up picks for the MTL draft.


Does taking on that contract close any doors?
RE: RE: Kovy still  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2020 8:46 pm : link
In comment 14816919 Jay in Toronto said:
Quote:
In comment 14816916 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


has hints of his old self was good in MTL with a good attitude.

But Bergevin having a good run.

Turns Scandella (acquired for a 4th) into a 2nd
Turns Kovy, league min FA, into a 3rd

Canadiens loading up picks for the MTL draft.



Does taking on that contract close any doors?


to come back to MTL? Kovy is a FA after the season. I'd welcome him back and if anything I think trading him to a contender would make him willing to return.

They did him a solid.
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pjcas18 : 2/23/2020 8:50 pm : link
CapFriendly
@CapFriendly
·
3m
Tampa Bay #Lightning are now at the 50 contract limit. Meaning that the club cannot acquire another contract without first moving a contract out.

https://capfriendly.com/teams/lightning
As I expect...  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2020 8:50 pm : link


Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
·
10m
The Habs intend to be bidders on Kovalchuk come July 1 if he’s free and hasn’t re-signed with the Caps. They genuinely loved what he brought to the organization on and off the ice over the past two months.
RE: Kovy still  
Jay on the Island : 2/23/2020 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14816916 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
has hints of his old self was good in MTL with a good attitude.

But Bergevin having a good run.

Turns Scandella (acquired for a 4th) into a 2nd
Turns Kovy, league min FA, into a 3rd

Canadiens loading up picks for the MTL draft.

Two excellent moves by the Habs.
'The Habs intend to be bidders on Kovalchuk come July 1'  
Torrag : 2/23/2020 8:54 pm : link
Good that they have that relationship. Gives them a solid chance to bring him back.
Kovalchuk could have helped NYI (Thompson too)  
Eric on Li : 2/23/2020 9:30 pm : link
really hope Lou doesn't strike out..again.
Kovalchuk  
Bramton1 : 2/23/2020 10:54 pm : link
can go fuck himself.
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