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NFT: NHL Trade Deadline Discussion - A Week and a Half out

pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 10:03 am
The next 7 days will solidify some things, teams hanging on to wild card hope will fade and become sellers (Canadiens) and other teams will thrive and become buyers CBJ, PHI

There will be injuries (McDavid, Bouwemeister) that could make some teams in contention become buyers or other injuries (Weber) that enforce other teams should be sellers.

Right now the Athletic has articles of both the top players (from Custance) likely to be traded and top prospects (from Pronman) likely to be traded.

The players include Kreider (#1), Kovalchuck (where did his resurrection come from?), Hoffman, Georgiev, etc.

and prospects include Puljujarvi, Lias Andersson, Honka, Bracco (etc.)

I thought this year the deadline might be active, but the list of names seems really bereft of marquee players, so who knows.

I don't know what to expect.

Seems like a sellers market though even if NHL teams are hesitant to trade for rentals.
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Also  
pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 10:22 am : link
Scott Wheeler, scout, prospect expert, etc. ranked the prospect pools for the Athletic.

Criteria for eligibility:
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To be eligible for inclusion as a prospect, a player must be:

Under 23 years old. We now know that by the time a player turns 23, he is largely done the steep upward progression we see in prospects and will begin to plateau.
Not currently in the NHL, with rare exceptions for players who I believe could still bounce between levels and aren’t yet considered full-time NHLers by their teams. Though this is the only arbitrary section of the criteria, preference for exemption was given to teenaged players, rather than 22-year-olds.
Either signed to an NHL contract or selected in the entry draft, without the expiration of either of those rights.

goalies were 24, not 23.

The top 10:
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The Ranking

1. Los Angeles Kings

2. Montreal Canadiens

3. Carolina Hurricanes

4. New York Rangers

5. Colorado Avalanche

6. Anaheim Ducks

7. Ottawa Senators

8. Philadelphia Flyers

9. Detroit Red Wings

10. Vegas Golden Knights


He likes Lundqvist a lot. In fact 5 of the Rangers top 6 prospects are D (Lundkvist, Miller, Jones, Keane and Robertson) with Kravstov at #2.

So many D in fact maybe the Rangers should trade some.

And that 5/6 doesn't even count Rykov or Hajek.

I still can't believe the Kings draft last year. Turcotte, Bjornfoot, and Kaliyev top 3 picks. Their system is loaded.

Habs have a good system too even, like the Rangers, graduating quite a few young players.

All of this is available to read at the Athletic
Some Devils news  
Jay on the Island : 2/13/2020 10:25 am : link
The Athletic’s Craig Custance reports there are “six or seven teams” in on Sami Vatanen ahead of the trade deadline.
RE: Some Devils news  
pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 10:31 am : link
In comment 14810306 Jay on the Island said:
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The Athletic’s Craig Custance reports there are “six or seven teams” in on Sami Vatanen ahead of the trade deadline.


#5 on Custance's list of players likely to be moved.
Vatanen  
pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 10:34 am : link
not on ice for morning skate (per Amanda Stein twitter).

No reason provided.
RE: Vatanen  
Stu11 : 2/13/2020 10:40 am : link
In comment 14810321 pjcas18 said:
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not on ice for morning skate (per Amanda Stein twitter).

No reason provided.

He's been hurt lately and missed some time. I said months ago the Devs could get a 1st rounder for him and I stick by it. There just aren't many Dmen available that a contender can plug right into their top 4 no problem.
RE: RE: Vatanen  
Jay on the Island : 2/13/2020 10:46 am : link
In comment 14810331 Stu11 said:
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In comment 14810321 pjcas18 said:


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not on ice for morning skate (per Amanda Stein twitter).

No reason provided.


He's been hurt lately and missed some time. I said months ago the Devs could get a 1st rounder for him and I stick by it. There just aren't many Dmen available that a contender can plug right into their top 4 no problem.

It is possible. He is having a very productive season and he has a very reasonable cap hit. I think a 2nd and a 3rd is more likely but I wouldn't be surprised if they landed a late 1st.
RE: Vatanen  
Jay on the Island : 2/13/2020 10:48 am : link
In comment 14810321 pjcas18 said:
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not on ice for morning skate (per Amanda Stein twitter).

No reason provided.

I was just posting for the Devil fans without an Athletic subscription. Unfortunately this is all we have left to look forward to.
I think Petry  
pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 10:56 am : link
is a lot better than Vatanen, but MTL won't trade him.

they should. but they'd have no D.
NYR: because of that d-man depth  
ColHowPepper : 2/13/2020 11:00 am : link
been saying I'd much rather see them deal d'Angelo than Kreider. They would miss his offensive spark, no question, esp. on PP, but he remains a liability on d. I'm sure many will disagree both prongs and prefer part ways with K and keep d'A. In each case depends who they get back.

Lundqvist has been having a heckuva season, as has the Fin forward Panjuniemi.
Carolina  
Scott in Montreal : 2/13/2020 11:02 am : link
I think that Petry would be a nice fit with the Canes but I doubt that a trade will happen. 1- the whole Aho thing and 2- Bergevin is a tool and is going to ask for too much

My second choice would be Minnesota's Matt Dumba. Young and solid defenceman. Will pair up nice once Hamilton comes back.

For some reason there are a lot of Canes fans talking about trading Mzarek and someone else to Chicago for Lehner. Apparently it was mentioned once on nhltraderumors.me.
I think that would be a stupid move since Lehner is a UFA and will be asking for a tonne of money next year. Unless they feel that Alex Nedeljkovic is going to be the guy next season and they let Lehner walk. Which would be very unlike the Canes.
RE: NYR: because of that d-man depth  
Percy : 2/13/2020 11:05 am : link
In comment 14810352 ColHowPepper said:
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been saying I'd much rather see them deal d'Angelo than Kreider. They would miss his offensive spark, no question, esp. on PP, but he remains a liability on d. I'm sure many will disagree both prongs and prefer part ways with K and keep d'A. In each case depends who they get back.

Lundqvist has been having a heckuva season, as has the Fin forward Panjuniemi.


Keep 'em both and let Hank go.
RE: NYR: because of that d-man depth  
ShockNRoll : 2/13/2020 11:06 am : link
In comment 14810352 ColHowPepper said:
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been saying I'd much rather see them deal d'Angelo than Kreider. They would miss his offensive spark, no question, esp. on PP, but he remains a liability on d. I'm sure many will disagree both prongs and prefer part ways with K and keep d'A. In each case depends who they get back.

Lundqvist has been having a heckuva season, as has the Fin forward Panjuniemi.


Personally, I'd rather see them trade Skjei and sign Tony. I know signing both Tony and Kreider is going to be difficult, but if they can somehow make it work, Henrik/Smith/Staal come off the books after next season, which frees up a ton of money. Skjei could be an attractive option for some teams, as he is not just a rental, he has potential, and may benefit from a change of scenery. Rangers would likely have to retain some salary, but a team might take a flier on Skjei, even though he hasn't really lived up to the expectations that were set 3 years ago when he was paired with Smith making the Rangers' best D pair that season.
Isles needed a C before Czikas injury, now they may need 2  
Eric on Li : 2/13/2020 11:10 am : link
JGP would be a great add unless his price goes up to a first. Don't think he's worth that as a rental. If it's conditional on resigning I'd consider it.

At this point it would seem almost guaranteed they at least add a vet like Nate Thompson or Trevor Lewis, but I hope they aim a little higher. I could very well see Lou going back to 1 of his old guys like Zajac or even Henrique if they can find a way to do it without clogging up too much future payroll since Barzal/Pulock are about to get paid.
I'd rather trade Trouba than TDA  
Greg from LI : 2/13/2020 11:12 am : link
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Nate Thompson  
pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 11:15 am : link
should definitely be traded. Good bottom 6 forward, can win face-offs, can play PK. Physical.

he has no role on the Habs but to steal min from a younger player.
Skjei 'n Shock  
ColHowPepper : 2/13/2020 11:15 am : link
S&R, don't necessarily disagree, but, as you suggest, his trade value might not move the needle much in terms of fortifying the roster.

Percy, NYR cannot
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let Hank go
He has to want to go, waive the NMC and some team has to want him.
RE: I'd rather trade Trouba than TDA  
Percy : 2/13/2020 11:16 am : link
In comment 14810368 Greg from LI said:
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Absolutely.
If the Devils do move Vatanen  
Jay on the Island : 2/13/2020 11:26 am : link
if they don't land a 1st for him I would prefer a a goalie prospect as opposed to a 2nd and another pick. I am high on Blackwood but the Devils have nothing else in their system in net besides Gilles Senn but his ceiling is most likely a backup.
If I'm JD I'm keeping Trouba, Lundqvist and Fox ...  
Torrag : 2/13/2020 11:27 am : link
I'm shopping all my other 'D'. They suck. DeAngelo makes me want to kill myself his defense is so bad. Hajek can maybe be an effective 3rd pair guy.
RE: I'd rather trade Trouba than TDA  
Anakim : 2/13/2020 11:29 am : link
In comment 14810368 Greg from LI said:
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Agreed
RE: If I'm JD I'm keeping Trouba, Lundqvist and Fox ...  
Anakim : 2/13/2020 11:32 am : link
In comment 14810392 Torrag said:
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I'm shopping all my other 'D'. They suck. DeAngelo makes me want to kill myself his defense is so bad. Hajek can maybe be an effective 3rd pair guy.


Tony D is one of the best offensive defensemen in the NHL right now. If we trade him, he should be the headliner in a package that should net us a young star.
BTW  
Anakim : 2/13/2020 11:33 am : link
Can I just say that I fucking miss Arcarsenal? Where the hell is he? Hope he's okay.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 2/13/2020 11:35 am : link
How did VAN get so good?

East has the top four teams and 7 of the top ten. Far better conference. The playoffs are going to be fun.
'Tony D is one of the best offensive defensemen in the NHL right now.'  
Torrag : 2/13/2020 11:36 am : link
G'bye. He's one of the main culprits in turnovers that end up in the back of our net and he's soft in front as well. I'll take the stud prospect and consider myself lucky we could cash in on his offense.
RE: BTW  
Kyle in NY : 2/13/2020 11:37 am : link
In comment 14810398 Anakim said:
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Can I just say that I fucking miss Arcarsenal? Where the hell is he? Hope he's okay.


Very much missed, a bit worrisome that he just disappeared from here
RE: 'Tony D is one of the best offensive defensemen in the NHL right now.'  
Anakim : 2/13/2020 11:44 am : link
In comment 14810404 Torrag said:
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G'bye. He's one of the main culprits in turnovers that end up in the back of our net and he's soft in front as well. I'll take the stud prospect and consider myself lucky we could cash in on his offense.


Seriously? The guy has 42 points in 55 games. The only defensemen who have more points than him this year are Roman Josi, John Carlson, Victor Hedman, Alex Pietrangelo and Quinn Hughes. He's only 24 and hasn't even hit his prime yet.

They need to either re-sign him to a long-term deal or trade him as a headliner for a huge get (like a Yandle-type of trade)
'Seriously?'  
Torrag : 2/13/2020 11:50 am : link
Very seriously. The next puck battle he wins in our end will be the first. I have no use for defenseman that suck at defending. He sucks. If I have to watch the other team cycle our zone and get a grade A scoring chance again because of him I'll puke. If we didn't have one of the best goalie corps in the NHL bailing him out every night he'd be a net -15.
You were one of the guys who used to think Girardi was a terrific  
Greg from LI : 2/13/2020 11:52 am : link
defenseman, weren't you?
Girardi was a good defenseman until he lost his wheels  
Torrag : 2/13/2020 11:57 am : link
I think he would have been best served as a second pair guy that was overcast due to necessity. So no to answer your question.

That said , to me, a defenseman's first responsibility and core attribute is being able to defend effectively. Not Chara level, just decent. DeAngelo isn't a decent defender. He's a bad one.
RE: Isles needed a C before Czikas injury, now they may need 2  
JayBinQueens : 2/13/2020 12:13 pm : link
In comment 14810365 Eric on Li said:
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JGP would be a great add unless his price goes up to a first. Don't think he's worth that as a rental. If it's conditional on resigning I'd consider it.

At this point it would seem almost guaranteed they at least add a vet like Nate Thompson or Trevor Lewis, but I hope they aim a little higher. I could very well see Lou going back to 1 of his old guys like Zajac or even Henrique if they can find a way to do it without clogging up too much future payroll since Barzal/Pulock are about to get paid.

I think I heard a little bit ago Zajac didn't want to waive his NTC to come to the NYI.

They definitely need to make a move for a F, ideally a C. They sent Wilde back so now they have room to bring on 2 contracts. I don't expect much, if anything but there's hope.. .
A bit over the top  
Kyle in NY : 2/13/2020 12:14 pm : link
but I do agree that TDA struggles in his own end and is frequently the victim of the endless cycle for the other team. Now there's a debate to be had about how important that is in today's game. I'll certainly take Tony over the "defensive defensemen" type that can't complete a pass out of his zone to save his life (Marc Staal's entire career).

But I wouldn't be opposed to trying to cash in on his value now given he's shooting at a very high percentage, he's an RFA after the season, Fox looks great and Nils is in the pipeline.
DeAngelo  
PaulN : 2/13/2020 12:15 pm : link
Is a horrible defenseman, with Lundqvist and Keane ready to step in next year I would try and trade him and include a Staal, Lundqvist, or Smith and try and off a contract, get a top prospect or two ready to play next season and load up with first and second round picks in this draft, this draft is 2 rounds deep and is a great draft, the Rangers must take advantage, the Bruins and Blues are both wanting to add and they may be desperate enough to be had. Trouba is the 2nd best 2 way defenseman on the team, Fox is the best, DeAngelo is all offense, at his age and point in his career, plus with the depth in our system, you may be able to hit it big trading him. Trouba is needed on this, trade him and the team would not have enough defenseman who play defense.
For the guys who want to trade Trouba  
ColHowPepper : 2/13/2020 12:22 pm : link
think that would be a big mistake. I'll grant that maybe he hasn't lived up to the size of his contract, still early. But this team sorely needs his physical presence. He's not even an enforcer in the sense of 'drop the gloves' type to keep other teams honest, he doesn't have to be.

The roster is shy tough, physical presences, pretty much across the board, unless you want to count the pesky, valuable in his way Lemieux. The next most physical guy we have is Lindgren, still very green. (By the way, did anyone notice when Lindgren was objecting to Laine's shove in front of the net, and Lindgren gave two shoves back, Laine barely budged, looked at Lindgren as if he were a gnat. It was funny, but not).

Trading Trouba would leave a huge hole.
Tony  
ShockNRoll : 2/13/2020 12:24 pm : link
Personally, his offensive production, to me, is worth the headaches he causes in his own end. If they can pair him with a more effective defensive defenseman than Staal, that could cover up some of those deficits he has and let him really focus on moving the puck and contributing offensively. It's hard to find a D who is as offensively gifted as Tony is, and he's only going to get better on both ends of the ice. I would hate to give up on him and have him really fine tune his defensive game elsewhere. It's also not like he's a guy like Sheldon Souray who would have 60-70 points but be a -25 or -30. Tony's +10 on the year. I know +/- isn't the most meaningful stat, but given that the Rangers are a young and rebuilding team, for him to be +10 is surprising given how much he struggles on defense and turning the puck over in the defensive zone.
So you think  
pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 12:24 pm : link
DeAngelo is a "horrible defenseman" and a pending RFA and the Rangers should trade him combined with an anchor contract (albeit just short term) in Smith, Staal, or Hank and the acquiring team should give the Rangers 1 or 2 prospects ready to play next year and a bevy of 2nd and 3rd round picks?

Sounds fair.
sorry  
pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 12:25 pm : link
1st and 2nd round picks.
RE: Tony  
Kyle in NY : 2/13/2020 12:34 pm : link
In comment 14810454 ShockNRoll said:
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Personally, his offensive production, to me, is worth the headaches he causes in his own end. If they can pair him with a more effective defensive defenseman than Staal, that could cover up some of those deficits he has and let him really focus on moving the puck and contributing offensively. It's hard to find a D who is as offensively gifted as Tony is, and he's only going to get better on both ends of the ice. I would hate to give up on him and have him really fine tune his defensive game elsewhere. It's also not like he's a guy like Sheldon Souray who would have 60-70 points but be a -25 or -30. Tony's +10 on the year. I know +/- isn't the most meaningful stat, but given that the Rangers are a young and rebuilding team, for him to be +10 is surprising given how much he struggles on defense and turning the puck over in the defensive zone.


I agree with this. That point production from a D doesn't just grow on trees. If they had bought low on a multi-year contract this past offseason and he was locked up for a few years at a good rate I don't think I'd be thinking trade. It's just that he'll be looking at a major raise in arbitration after the year considering where he's going to rank points wise for defensemen. Some tough decisions to make and we'd be dealing from a position of strength
RE: For the guys who want to trade Trouba  
ShockNRoll : 2/13/2020 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14810452 ColHowPepper said:
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think that would be a big mistake. I'll grant that maybe he hasn't lived up to the size of his contract, still early. But this team sorely needs his physical presence. He's not even an enforcer in the sense of 'drop the gloves' type to keep other teams honest, he doesn't have to be.

The roster is shy tough, physical presences, pretty much across the board, unless you want to count the pesky, valuable in his way Lemieux. The next most physical guy we have is Lindgren, still very green. (By the way, did anyone notice when Lindgren was objecting to Laine's shove in front of the net, and Lindgren gave two shoves back, Laine barely budged, looked at Lindgren as if he were a gnat. It was funny, but not).

Trading Trouba would leave a huge hole.


I think it's evident that Trouba has not lived up to the expectations coming in, especially when you consider how good Pionk has been in Winnipeg. That said, I also think it would be a mistake to get rid of him. He's in his first year in NYC, paired with Skjei who has, in my opinion, regressed since his 2016-17 season where he was one of the top D on the team. I am all for going forward with Trouba, Fox, Lindgren, and Tony, hoping that any 2 of Lundkvist, Miller, Rykov and Hajek can round out the top 6. That said, unless the Rangers can find a way to trade Skjei, he's under contract until 2024, either forcing Tony or Trouba out, or blocking one of those guys from cracking the lineup.
Have to consider handedness  
Kyle in NY : 2/13/2020 12:55 pm : link
when penciling in the future defense group though. I'd probably be more inclined to shop Skeji above them all, but after years of struggling to find RHD, we're now pretty well stocked on that side while LHD like Skeji and Lindgren are a bit more rare among the top guys in the organization. On the right side along there's Trouba, Fox, TDA, with Nils and Keane in the pipeline. Someone has to go if they're not asking them to switch sides.

I've always thought it shouldn't be too much to ask a talented guy to play on his opposite side but we seem extremely opposed to that.
RE: Have to consider handedness  
pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 1:02 pm : link
In comment 14810506 Kyle in NY said:
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when penciling in the future defense group though. I'd probably be more inclined to shop Skeji above them all, but after years of struggling to find RHD, we're now pretty well stocked on that side while LHD like Skeji and Lindgren are a bit more rare among the top guys in the organization. On the right side along there's Trouba, Fox, TDA, with Nils and Keane in the pipeline. Someone has to go if they're not asking them to switch sides.

I've always thought it shouldn't be too much to ask a talented guy to play on his opposite side but we seem extremely opposed to that.


players can play opposite side on D, and even once in a blue moon a player might prefer it, but analytics supports balanced D pairs (handedness).

I don't think it's much of an issue in situations like PP or even in the offensive zone, but going back for pucks, wrap arounds, breakouts, and some other plays are just awkward to do on your opposite side. You are forced to play on your backhand more which isn't as accurate for most players.

today there is a lack of RHD league wide, more kids fathers are buying in to the theory a RH person is a LH hockey shot.

RE: Skjei 'n Shock  
Percy : 2/13/2020 1:07 pm : link
In comment 14810373 ColHowPepper said:
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S&R, don't necessarily disagree, but, as you suggest, his trade value might not move the needle much in terms of fortifying the roster.

Percy, NYR cannot

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let Hank go

He has to want to go, waive the NMC and some team has to want him.

True. Had lost sight of that. He has to be willing -- money maybe. And you're also right that someone has to want him and it isn't clear anyone does. I still want to keep those two others, though, at just about whatever the cost is.


RE: RE: Have to consider handedness  
Kyle in NY : 2/13/2020 1:27 pm : link
In comment 14810517 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14810506 Kyle in NY said:


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when penciling in the future defense group though. I'd probably be more inclined to shop Skeji above them all, but after years of struggling to find RHD, we're now pretty well stocked on that side while LHD like Skeji and Lindgren are a bit more rare among the top guys in the organization. On the right side along there's Trouba, Fox, TDA, with Nils and Keane in the pipeline. Someone has to go if they're not asking them to switch sides.

I've always thought it shouldn't be too much to ask a talented guy to play on his opposite side but we seem extremely opposed to that.



players can play opposite side on D, and even once in a blue moon a player might prefer it, but analytics supports balanced D pairs (handedness).

I don't think it's much of an issue in situations like PP or even in the offensive zone, but going back for pucks, wrap arounds, breakouts, and some other plays are just awkward to do on your opposite side. You are forced to play on your backhand more which isn't as accurate for most players.

today there is a lack of RHD league wide, more kids fathers are buying in to the theory a RH person is a LH hockey shot.


Yeah I'm right handed in everything but I play hockey left handed. There's definitely fewer right handed players. I get why it's difficult for D, especially at NHL speeds. But if you can just get one top guy who's capable of playing either side if necessary it opens up so many possibilities
Gonchar?  
pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 1:40 pm : link
is he the last big name to prefer (or be able to play) off side D?

Trotz says you lose a 3rd of the ice by playing off side.

One thing I never got comfortable with in the offensive zone was when the puck gets wrapped around the boards to me at the point and I'm on my off side. There is no smooth reaction to that. Either you're on your backhand and move it back down the boards, go skate to stick, or quickly pivot backhand to forehand perilously close to the blue line.

Whatever benefits there are I think I side with the coaches/GM's who strive for balance.

But in a pinch (a couple games here or there, a few shifts here or there) I wouldn't hesitate to put a D on their off-hand I just think it's a consideration in roster building.

RE: Isles needed a C before Czikas injury, now they may need 2  
Jay on the Island : 2/13/2020 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14810365 Eric on Li said:
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JGP would be a great add unless his price goes up to a first. Don't think he's worth that as a rental. If it's conditional on resigning I'd consider it.

At this point it would seem almost guaranteed they at least add a vet like Nate Thompson or Trevor Lewis, but I hope they aim a little higher. I could very well see Lou going back to 1 of his old guys like Zajac or even Henrique if they can find a way to do it without clogging up too much future payroll since Barzal/Pulock are about to get paid.

A few weeks ago Zajac blocked a trade to an unnamed team in the playoff hunt. It was later revealed that the team was most likely the Islanders. I was very disappointed and surprised when he took advantage of his NMC.
the Atheltic says  
Metnut : 2/13/2020 3:52 pm : link
most likely destinations for Kreider are Pit, NYI and BOS. Doesn't seem like a list of teams NYR would be thrilled to deal with.
11 days  
pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 4:11 pm : link
not sure how long he'll be out, but might make it harder to trade him.

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NEWS: New Jersey has placed D Sami Vatanen (bruised right leg from blocking a shot) on injured reserve, retroactive to 2/1/2020.

The club has recalled Nick Merkley from Binghamton (AHL). He has been assigned #39.
RE: the Atheltic says  
BrettNYG10 : 2/13/2020 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14810662 Metnut said:
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most likely destinations for Kreider are Pit, NYI and BOS. Doesn't seem like a list of teams NYR would be thrilled to deal with.


Murder me pls
RE: the Atheltic says  
Greg from LI : 2/13/2020 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14810662 Metnut said:
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most likely destinations for Kreider are Pit, NYI and BOS. Doesn't seem like a list of teams NYR would be thrilled to deal with.


There is absolutely no way in hell they're going to trade him to the Islanders unless it's an overpay, and I don't know why the Islanders would do that.

Boston would be the most palatable from that list. They traded Nash there, after all.
Shock, pj and metnut  
ColHowPepper : 2/13/2020 4:27 pm : link
S&R - I thought Trouba looked much better, flowing movement into neutral ice and opponent's end, w/o giving up much in his defensive zone when paired with Lindgren. I thought it freed him up. I don't know why DQ went back to Trouba/Skjei (leaving Td'A and Staal together) unless it was specifically to counter a Jets' line...a lot of firepower that Rangers did very well to neutralize. Wonder how they pair tonight. Georgiev starting

pj - someone above mentioned Chara: sure you must have seen the altercation along the boards and hard stick to Gallagher's throat. wtf if he gets away with that?

metnut, agree, they better extract extra pound of flesh from any of those
RE: Shock, pj and metnut  
pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14810697 ColHowPepper said:
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S&R - I thought Trouba looked much better, flowing movement into neutral ice and opponent's end, w/o giving up much in his defensive zone when paired with Lindgren. I thought it freed him up. I don't know why DQ went back to Trouba/Skjei (leaving Td'A and Staal together) unless it was specifically to counter a Jets' line...a lot of firepower that Rangers did very well to neutralize. Wonder how they pair tonight. Georgiev starting

pj - someone above mentioned Chara: sure you must have seen the altercation along the boards and hard stick to Gallagher's throat. wtf if he gets away with that?

metnut, agree, they better extract extra pound of flesh from any of those


Not just got away with it, but Gallagher got a penalty on the play. For getting his throat in the way of Chara's stick I guess.

Habs for so many years had a well earned reputation of "getting the calls" the pendulum has definitely swung the other way. They are rarely on the right side of awful officiating. Maybe history righting itself.

Chara was fined 5k for that play, the most allowable by the CBA. He has earned almost 100M in his career just from hockey contracts. That 5k is like a $10 fine for you and I.

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