The next 7 days will solidify some things, teams hanging on to wild card hope will fade and become sellers (Canadiens) and other teams will thrive and become buyers CBJ, PHI
There will be injuries (McDavid, Bouwemeister) that could make some teams in contention become buyers or other injuries (Weber) that enforce other teams should be sellers.
Right now the Athletic has articles of both the top players (from Custance) likely to be traded and top prospects (from Pronman) likely to be traded.
The players include Kreider (#1), Kovalchuck (where did his resurrection come from?), Hoffman, Georgiev, etc.
and prospects include Puljujarvi, Lias Andersson, Honka, Bracco (etc.)
I thought this year the deadline might be active, but the list of names seems really bereft of marquee players, so who knows.
I don't know what to expect.
Seems like a sellers market though even if NHL teams are hesitant to trade for rentals.
Very frustrating that Dmen seem to be evaluated by their points.
As I said in the game thread, Fox broke up a 3 on 1 with his stick -- shades of Harry Howell.
Where does that show up in the stats.
For example picks 1 - n are thought to be elite. but then what makes the draft interesting is that there is thought to be not THAT much separation for players y - 60.
I don't have the actual numbers, but say it's 15. 15 high end prospects and then 45 attractive players all with flaws.
I think that makes for a good draft with some 2nd round upside, but man it makes that 16 - 31 spot dangerous.
So, if your scouts believe that to be true, your 1st round pick if you're a playoff contender should be available.
And Buchie was jokingly referring to his and Kreider's spots on this chart.
Probably a bit wistfully.
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talk about a draft riser.
Since he joined Hamilton, 12 p in 12 games.
the league reviewed and decided on the fine.
I don't get worked up about this stuff, it all evens itself out (karmically) but the league is generally a joke when they claim to be about player safety.
And allegedly the IOC and IIHF agreed to amend everything the league had brought up as objections as to why they didn't want the players to participate.
the "puck" is in the league's court now and the players almost all want to do it.
Beijing is a shitty destination, but Olympic hockey is riveting with the world's best players, but as we saw last Olympics it's barely watchable without pros. Just seems like poor minor league hockey.
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most likely destinations for Kreider are Pit, NYI and BOS. Doesn't seem like a list of teams NYR would be thrilled to deal with.
There is absolutely no way in hell they're going to trade him to the Islanders unless it's an overpay, and I don't know why the Islanders would do that.
Boston would be the most palatable from that list. They traded Nash there, after all.
Because, the Islanders are on pace for another 103+ pt season and a top 6 winger like Kreider would make them an even more dangerous team in the playoffs? He also likes NY so the Islanders would supposedly (im skeptical cause no one ever signs with NYI) have a chance to extend him.
He seems like the exact type of player the Isles would want to acquire. If NYR wants to take less to avoid dealing him to NYI, that's on them (same type of move I've seen my Mets make when it comes to dealing with NYY).
Pit already gave up their 1st, so not sure they can really outbid NYI. Isles would at least give up their 1st and while the NYI/BOS 1st could go either way, most would think the NYI 1st likely to be the more valuable of the two picks. Not sure what more it would take for NYI to deal him, but he's a rental player so I doubt the package would be too big.
Strome is another one I think they can part with.
Mallkin is 33
Clock is ticking. Kreider would give them hella firepower
Pitt also lacks size
Perfect fit and they become top three cup favorites imo
Good point, he’s one of the good one’s. When did he last post?
Mallkin is 33
Clock is ticking. Kreider would give them hella firepower
Pitt also lacks size
Perfect fit and they become top three cup favorites imo
But what can come back from Pitt?
I'm hoping Blues or Avalanche
Price has a November like 2019 and as a fan I feel hopeless with this approach, then Price has a January like 2020 and I think with the right additions it could work. but then Weber goes down for 6 weeks or Gallagher or Drouin get hurt.
Anyway, I think Tatar would flourish in a Trotz system - Domi would too, but both would be good fits for NYI and I doubt MTL trades either.
If I'm Bergevin I trade (or would listen for a fair offer on): Domi, Tatar, Kovalchuk, Petry and more. Very few untouchables on that roster. Nick Suzuki is quickly becoming the best player on the team.
I would ask for Bouchard back.
Price has a November like 2019 and as a fan I feel hopeless with this approach, then Price has a January like 2020 and I think with the right additions it could work. but then Weber goes down for 6 weeks or Gallagher or Drouin get hurt.
Anyway, I think Tatar would flourish in a Trotz system - Domi would too, but both would be good fits for NYI and I doubt MTL trades either.
If I'm Bergevin I trade (or would listen for a fair offer on): Domi, Tatar, Kovalchuk, Petry and more. Very few untouchables on that roster. Nick Suzuki is quickly becoming the best player on the team.
Tatar would be great to have on NYI. Reasonable cap hit too. What would a reasonable offer be for him?
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would be great for the Islanders and the Canadiens SHOULD be willing to trade him, but as long as they have Price they will not embrace a full blow it up rebuild they'll feel the need to try and build around him.
Price has a November like 2019 and as a fan I feel hopeless with this approach, then Price has a January like 2020 and I think with the right additions it could work. but then Weber goes down for 6 weeks or Gallagher or Drouin get hurt.
Anyway, I think Tatar would flourish in a Trotz system - Domi would too, but both would be good fits for NYI and I doubt MTL trades either.
If I'm Bergevin I trade (or would listen for a fair offer on): Domi, Tatar, Kovalchuk, Petry and more. Very few untouchables on that roster. Nick Suzuki is quickly becoming the best player on the team.
Tatar would be great to have on NYI. Reasonable cap hit too. What would a reasonable offer be for him?
Bode Wilde and a 2nd? I assume Wahlstrom is off limits. I like Bellows too.
Maybe he waives the NMC
I know that sounds harsh but when you sign a contract where you are going to 39 by the end and taking up 8.5 m in cap space, you should have expected to be bought out from the beginning
There are many of these in his brief OHL career.
Not saying he'll go higher than Byfield or others, but I hope my team is in a spot to get him.
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There are many of these in his brief OHL career.
Not saying he'll go higher than Byfield or others, but I hope my team is in a spot to get him. Link - ( New Window )
I'd love to see him on a line with Shadrach and Abednego.
Just days after being out for the year and possibly his career.
Weird.
Not to mention some good prospects have moved.
Seems like a severe seller's market.
I would trade any non superstar on the verge of a contract if I'm a rebuilding team.
lol, maybe I'll start a new one tomorrow - or feel free yourself. a lot of hockey fans on here
another trade heightening the value of Kreider, etc.
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Canucks make it Official:
Canucks acquired right wing Tyler Toffoli from Los Angeles Kings in exchange for Tim Schaller, Canucks 2020 2nd round pick in the NHL Draft, rights to unsigned draft choice Tyler Madden and a conditional 4th round pick in the 2022 NHL Draft.
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#bruins have offered a first round pick and a B level prospect for Chris Kreider. #rangers would like to re-sign him but the asking price of 6x6 is too much.
I want Charlie Coyle, one of their top 3 forward prospects and a first from those assholes if they're gonna get Kreider.
I want Charlie Coyle, one of their top 3 forward prospects and a first from those assholes if they're gonna get Kreider.
The latest on the draft is that it is elite in the top third or so.
Maybe get an upgrade in prospect as you suggest and first round in 2021?
Top of the draft is strong, but from what I read, 15 - 60 sounds pretty interchangeable. Which may be why first/second round picks are moving.
Comparing to 2019, not sure you're getting Kaliyev, Hoglander, Sameul Fagemo or Nick Robertson (for example) in the second this year.
but who knows.
Here's the thing: when you sign someone like Panarin, you are committing yourself to contending sometime in the next few years. I'm having a hard time seeing how dealing Kreider moves them towards that goal. Figure something else out. Personally, I'd start with trying to deal Trouba.
Here's the thing: when you sign someone like Panarin, you are committing yourself to contending sometime in the next few years. I'm having a hard time seeing how dealing Kreider moves them towards that goal. Figure something else out. Personally, I'd start with trying to deal Trouba.
And Winnipeg is desperate for Dmen, lol
Only, MTL will (hopefully) be sellers not buyers.
maybe in the off-season at the draft before his NMC kicks in.
Only, MTL will (hopefully) be sellers not buyers.
maybe in the off-season at the draft before his NMC kicks in.
I agree -- the only reason to consider is that the Rangers pipeline is way overbalanced toward Dmen.
LD are easier to find, but also I think Trouba is the better player and Skjei contract probably easier to move.
that should allow them to keep Kreider if they want.
LD are easier to find, but also I think Trouba is the better player and Skjei contract probably easier to move.
that should allow them to keep Kreider if they want.
I agree Skjei is my preference. Rangers have LD in the pipeline. K'Andre Miller probably here next season. Rykov improving as he gets fit in returning from injury. Plenty of praise around Robertson as a prospect.
his NMC is effective in July (July 1), so I agree if they're going to move him it likely needs to be either deadline or draft.
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and trade Skjei more than Trouba.
LD are easier to find, but also I think Trouba is the better player and Skjei contract probably easier to move.
that should allow them to keep Kreider if they want.
I agree Skjei is my preference. Rangers have LD in the pipeline. K'Andre Miller probably here next season. Rykov improving as he gets fit in returning from injury. Plenty of praise around Robertson as a prospect.
Tony D also could and according to some should play LD even though he's a righty. Not sure I understand that, but yeah.
Hunger strike in support of the Wilpons.
I bet STL would be a destination for a D.
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The Canadiens have acquired St. Louis’ second-round pick in the 2020 NHL Draft (and a conditional fourth-round pick in 2021), in exchange for defenseman Marco Scandella.
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Acquired Marco Scandella for a 4th in January, trade him in February for a 2nd.
(to the Blues, who I had pegged as a D destination).
I wouldn't be surprised if they add another D.