I'd be scared. I'd be trying to find whatever magic words exist that will prevent me from getting drilled in the nuts every time I step into the box between March and October.
I don't know how anyone can say this with a straight face Â
didn't do himself any favors during his PC. Altuve and Bregman were pathetic but did answer questions at their lockers. Apparently Correa came off the best during the locker room Q&A
The owner claimed that he didn't know about it and doesn't spend time in the locker room area. Yeah right
“Our players should not be punished. … These are a great group of guys who did not receive proper guidance from their leaders.”
So grown men with wives and kids still need guidance on what is right and wrong? Pretty sure nobody held a gun to their head and said, you have to do it.
I'd love for one of them to say "as athletes we push the limits for a competitive advantage, unfortunately we took it too far in 2017" Then I would have a small amount of respect for them
RE: I don't know how anyone can say this with a straight face Â
“Our opinion is this didn’t impact the game,” Crane said Monday morning. “We had a good team. We won the World Series. We’ll leave it at that.”
That quote is a head scratcher. If you didn't think it impacted the game, you wouldn't have bothered setting up a whole program to do it against the rules in the first place?
in 2020, the Astros pitchers have to shout out what pitch they are throwing to the batter before each pitch. And if there is no impact on the outcome, then we can all move on and leave Houston alone.
I'd be scared. I'd be trying to find whatever magic words exist that will prevent me from getting drilled in the nuts every time I step into the box between March and October.
NoPeanutz - your handle and this comment mix perfectly.
They love inserting themselves into the spotlight, especially a select few, so are they going to toss opposing Ps immediately when they plunk Altuve/Bregman? Or are they going to let teams get one or two free shots before issuing warnings?
said CC should sign a 1 day contract and then throw at them as many times as he can until they kick him out lol.
I guess that would be sort of funny, but it would also be once. He'd be warned before even taking the mound, and ejected after the first brushback attempt. Knowing CC, he might even start talking during warmups and get himself ejected before even getting to throw a pitch.
that Manfred felt he couldn't move this forward without granting players immunity.
These abusers of the game get to keep playing and keep collecting their big checks...just unbelievable.
My guess is that there is a big can of worms that could be opened if they push the players too hard on this and MLB wants to keep the lid on that permanently closed.
By a player In the minors. He says he got torched as a middle reliever by the Astros. Gave up five hits, three walks and four runs in 1/3 of an inning. Was sent down the next day and no team will promote him now. Suing them for lost income.
Not sure I agree but an interesting take for sure.
a couple fastballs in the ribs this season. Baseball has seen different kinds of scandals over the years, but this is unusual in how so many of their opponents are united against them.
A lot different than steroids, as players all knew guys on every team were taking them
Then he quickly diverted, less than a minute later, that he didn't say that.
I hope the Astros are given a rough ride the entire year. Hard slides, some chin music........I'm not one to promote showboating but i'd definitely get in the face of both Altuvi and Bregman whenever I could.
RE: I don't know how anyone can say this with a straight face Â
Did he say they didn't do anything wrong? All I read was he said he didn't think the sign stealing had an impact.
which of course is ridiculous, but different from saying you did nothing wrong.
I was wrong - what he actually said is that they broke the rules but he doesn't think that means they cheated.
Quote:
Kristie Ackert
@ByKristieAckert
Crane specifies that they are only apologizing for breaking the rules -- not cheating the game. #Astros
He's trying to draw an imaginary distinction between breaking the rules on one hand and cheating on the other hand, because he doesn't actually believe they did anything wrong and he's not actually apologizing for anything.
A better collection of assholes. Nice to see arrogance humbled. Enjoy the shit sandwich there planet Houston, enjoy it. This is enjoyable only because that team is one giant arrogant asshole.
I can't wait til the Bleacher Creatures serenade these assholes. Â
I only wish they came in early in the season instead of late. Then again, maybe the hoopla will have died down a bit by then and the Stros will think they're past it, only to find the Bronx will bring em right back to reality.
I'm sure there's going to be some great chants aimed at them during that series.
Ty Kelly
@tykelly11
· 1h
When I was young and about to lose in Ken Griffey Junior Baseball on N64, I would quickly turn the system off so I could replay the game. It is my opinion that this did not really affect the outcome of the game. I was already very good at the game.
RE: I can't wait til the Bleacher Creatures serenade these assholes. Â
I only wish they came in early in the season instead of late. Then again, maybe the hoopla will have died down a bit by then and the Stros will think they're past it, only to find the Bronx will bring em right back to reality.
I'm sure there's going to be some great chants aimed at them during that series.
They're going to get dumped on in every stadium they play in. It won t just be Yankees fans.
For allowing these cheating idiots to keep their rings. No guts to do the right thing. How could anyone believe the cheating did not affect the outcome of both the Yankee and Dodgers series?
RE: RE: I can't wait til the Bleacher Creatures serenade these assholes. Â
I only wish they came in early in the season instead of late. Then again, maybe the hoopla will have died down a bit by then and the Stros will think they're past it, only to find the Bronx will bring em right back to reality.
I'm sure there's going to be some great chants aimed at them during that series.
They're going to get dumped on in every stadium they play in. It won t just be Yankees fans.
No doubt about that but I have every confidence the best dumping will come in the Bronx. Even if it is late in the season.
what's truly eye-opening is the reaction around the league Â
Lynn Worthy
@LWorthySports
Royals All-Star Whit Merrifield on the Astros: “I have no interest in hearing about them.... I have no respect for those guys anymore.”
Royals star Whit Merrifield: Astros scandal discredits everything they’ve done
Disgusting. Blatant cheating. Discrediting. Whit Merrifield holds no punches in discussing Astros scandal.
kansascity.com
4:44 PM · Feb 13, 2020
In hindsight, this sport has been in a tailspin since the ‘94 strike Â
Jorge Castillo
@jorgecastillo
Bellinger: "I thought Manfred's punishment was weak, giving them immunity. I mean these guys were cheating for three years. I think what people don't realize is Altuve stole an MVP from Judge in '17. Everyone knows they stole the ring from us."
11:19 AM · Feb 14, 2020
called them out too saying they knew that they were cheating in the WS with the whistles. And he noticed when the crowd got really loud, the Nationals pitchers were able to get the Astros hitters out.
This all lends more to the theory that only "trusted" players on the Astros were given the buzzers (Altuve and Bregman specifically). The rest went by the whistling.
Houston is going to be in a loooooong season, I don't care how much they think they have the talent, this distraction is not going away and we will see how good they are when they don't know what pitch is coming.
Why do you say that? Astros beat the Yanks in 7 games by cheating. Astros only won at home...what a surprise. I'd take Yanks over Dodgers on any bet that year. It's a stretch to say the the World Series would go to the Dodgers.
both NYY and LAD were cheated. No way to know who would have won, it's just conjecture.
That's my point. When Dodgers players say they were cheated from the WS, they can't say that. The fans were cheated from a pure finish but there was more than one team cheated.
What else do you expect Bellinger, or any Dodger, to say? Â
CC says the Yankees were cheated out of a ring because he's confident in his guys. Bellinger says the Dodgers were cheated because he's confident in his guys. Nothing wrong with that.
why the Astros had the fewest strikeouts the last three years.
That's what bothers me the most about 2017 - the baseball purists were killing the Yankees for striking out too much and waxing poetic about the disciplined Astros and their ability to put the bat on the ball. What a collection of cheating bums on that squad.
But Steven Strasburg is still bringing the smoke against the Astros:
Tyler Kepner
@TylerKepner
Stephen Strasburg, the 2019 WS MVP, with more high heat for the Astros: "Someday I’m gonna hopefully have some grandkids and sit down and talk to them about the experience of the World Series and not really feel ashamed of it at all."
1:31 PM · Feb 14, 2020
Houston manager Dusty Baker urged Major League Baseball to help protect his players from potential retaliation and to discipline opponents who hit Astros players with pitches because they're angry at the organization for the widespread cheating during their championship-winning 2017 season Dusty - ( New Window )
Houston manager Dusty Baker urged Major League Baseball to help protect his players from potential retaliation and to discipline opponents who hit Astros players with pitches because they're angry at the organization for the widespread cheating during their championship-winning 2017 season Dusty - ( New Window )
He’s lucky they aren’t playing the Dodgers this season.
Houston manager Dusty Baker urged Major League Baseball to help protect his players from potential retaliation and to discipline opponents who hit Astros players with pitches because they're angry at the organization for the widespread cheating during their championship-winning 2017 season Dusty - ( New Window )
He’s lucky they aren’t playing the Dodgers this season.
True....the Dodgers recently acquired a kid from Minnesota who throws 100 mph. I would think getting hit by him might hurt a bit....depending on where one got hit of course.....
Every time this seems like it can't get more ridiculous..... Â
Now the excuse for Altuve being afraid of having his jersey pulled off is that he had an unfinished tattoo that looked bad. No, seriously, that's what Correa insisted in his new Ken Rosenthal interview.
And stars around the league continue to rip the Astros Â
Gordon Wittenmyer
@GDubCub
Bryant on Astros: "If they didn’t get caught they’d still be doing it.
They’re only doing this apology because they got caught. There’s a lot of feelings on it. I know everybody around the league is really upset and rightfully so because it’s really a disgrace to the game.”
11:58 AM · Feb 15, 2020
RE: Every time this seems like it can't get more ridiculous..... Â
Now the excuse for Altuve being afraid of having his jersey pulled off is that he had an unfinished tattoo that looked bad. No, seriously, that's what Correa insisted in his new Ken Rosenthal interview.
No, that actually checks out. Altuve really guessed wrong on the 2016 election.
The owner claimed that he didn't know about it and doesn't spend time in the locker room area. Yeah right
I'd love for one of them to say "as athletes we push the limits for a competitive advantage, unfortunately we took it too far in 2017" Then I would have a small amount of respect for them
That quote is a head scratcher. If you didn't think it impacted the game, you wouldn't have bothered setting up a whole program to do it against the rules in the first place?
NoPeanutz - your handle and this comment mix perfectly.
I'd love to see them get drilled in the ribs every game. What would MLB do? You can make up a rule to protect 2-3 from being hit by pitchers, can you?
Did he say they didn't do anything wrong? All I read was he said he didn't think the sign stealing had an impact.
which of course is ridiculous, but different from saying you did nothing wrong.
They were better in their later comments in the locker room. Better, but not great.
I guess that would be sort of funny, but it would also be once. He'd be warned before even taking the mound, and ejected after the first brushback attempt. Knowing CC, he might even start talking during warmups and get himself ejected before even getting to throw a pitch.
These abusers of the game get to keep playing and keep collecting their big checks...just unbelievable.
These abusers of the game get to keep playing and keep collecting their big checks...just unbelievable.
My guess is that there is a big can of worms that could be opened if they push the players too hard on this and MLB wants to keep the lid on that permanently closed.
Bullshit.
Not sure I agree but an interesting take for sure.
A lot different than steroids, as players all knew guys on every team were taking them
What he did say is it "didn't impact the game".
Then he quickly diverted, less than a minute later, that he didn't say that.
I hope the Astros are given a rough ride the entire year. Hard slides, some chin music........I'm not one to promote showboating but i'd definitely get in the face of both Altuvi and Bregman whenever I could.
Then he goes on and says 50 secs later and says "I didn't say this didn't impact the games"
Quote:
“Our opinion is this didn’t impact the game,” Crane said Monday morning. “We had a good team. We won the World Series. We’ll leave it at that.”
Then he goes on and says 50 secs later and says "I didn't say this didn't impact the games"
Or what BillKo posted
which of course is ridiculous, but different from saying you did nothing wrong.
I was wrong - what he actually said is that they broke the rules but he doesn't think that means they cheated.
@ByKristieAckert
Crane specifies that they are only apologizing for breaking the rules -- not cheating the game. #Astros
He's trying to draw an imaginary distinction between breaking the rules on one hand and cheating on the other hand, because he doesn't actually believe they did anything wrong and he's not actually apologizing for anything.
I'm sure there's going to be some great chants aimed at them during that series.
@tykelly11
· 1h
When I was young and about to lose in Ken Griffey Junior Baseball on N64, I would quickly turn the system off so I could replay the game. It is my opinion that this did not really affect the outcome of the game. I was already very good at the game.
I'm sure there's going to be some great chants aimed at them during that series.
They're going to get dumped on in every stadium they play in. It won t just be Yankees fans.
Quote:
I only wish they came in early in the season instead of late. Then again, maybe the hoopla will have died down a bit by then and the Stros will think they're past it, only to find the Bronx will bring em right back to reality.
I'm sure there's going to be some great chants aimed at them during that series.
They're going to get dumped on in every stadium they play in. It won t just be Yankees fans.
No doubt about that but I have every confidence the best dumping will come in the Bronx. Even if it is late in the season.
@LWorthySports
Royals All-Star Whit Merrifield on the Astros: “I have no interest in hearing about them.... I have no respect for those guys anymore.”
Royals star Whit Merrifield: Astros scandal discredits everything they’ve done
Disgusting. Blatant cheating. Discrediting. Whit Merrifield holds no punches in discussing Astros scandal.
kansascity.com
4:44 PM · Feb 13, 2020
Jorge Castillo
@jorgecastillo
Bellinger: "I thought Manfred's punishment was weak, giving them immunity. I mean these guys were cheating for three years. I think what people don't realize is Altuve stole an MVP from Judge in '17. Everyone knows they stole the ring from us."
11:19 AM · Feb 14, 2020
Also Bellinger:
This all lends more to the theory that only "trusted" players on the Astros were given the buzzers (Altuve and Bregman specifically). The rest went by the whistling.
Houston is going to be in a loooooong season, I don't care how much they think they have the talent, this distraction is not going away and we will see how good they are when they don't know what pitch is coming.
Why do you say that? Astros beat the Yanks in 7 games by cheating. Astros only won at home...what a surprise. I'd take Yanks over Dodgers on any bet that year. It's a stretch to say the the World Series would go to the Dodgers.
That's my point. When Dodgers players say they were cheated from the WS, they can't say that. The fans were cheated from a pure finish but there was more than one team cheated.
That's what bothers me the most about 2017 - the baseball purists were killing the Yankees for striking out too much and waxing poetic about the disciplined Astros and their ability to put the bat on the ball. What a collection of cheating bums on that squad.
Tyler Kepner
@TylerKepner
Stephen Strasburg, the 2019 WS MVP, with more high heat for the Astros: "Someday I’m gonna hopefully have some grandkids and sit down and talk to them about the experience of the World Series and not really feel ashamed of it at all."
1:31 PM · Feb 14, 2020
Dusty - ( New Window )
He’s lucky they aren’t playing the Dodgers this season.
Quote:
Houston manager Dusty Baker urged Major League Baseball to help protect his players from potential retaliation and to discipline opponents who hit Astros players with pitches because they're angry at the organization for the widespread cheating during their championship-winning 2017 season Dusty - ( New Window )
He’s lucky they aren’t playing the Dodgers this season.
True....the Dodgers recently acquired a kid from Minnesota who throws 100 mph. I would think getting hit by him might hurt a bit....depending on where one got hit of course.....
@GDubCub
Bryant on Astros: "If they didn’t get caught they’d still be doing it.
They’re only doing this apology because they got caught. There’s a lot of feelings on it. I know everybody around the league is really upset and rightfully so because it’s really a disgrace to the game.”
11:58 AM · Feb 15, 2020
No, that actually checks out. Altuve really guessed wrong on the 2016 election.