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NFT: Die Hard: it was pitched as a Christmas Movie from the start

Milton : 2/13/2020 2:12 pm
Apparently there were cameras in the room when it was first pitched to a studio exec.
Die Hard Pitch Meeting - ( New Window )
This again??  
johnnyb : 2/13/2020 3:13 pm : link
And it is not even Christmas!
Debate settled.  
The_Boss : 2/13/2020 3:18 pm : link
1 and 2 are always on my holiday playlist.
I love these Pitch Meeting videos  
Bramton1 : 2/13/2020 3:20 pm : link
They crack me up.
there is a difference between a movie set during Christmas  
Greg from LI : 2/13/2020 3:24 pm : link
and a Christmas movie. Movies such as Die Hard and The Ice Harvest are not Christmas movies despite it being the setting.
RE: I love these Pitch Meeting videos  
Milton : 2/13/2020 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14810636 Bramton1 said:
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They crack me up.

Breaking Bad Pitch Meeting - ( New Window )
Of course it's a Christmas movie; it's full of  
Giants61 : 2/13/2020 3:33 pm : link
"Peace on earth, Good will to men" shit
Is White Christmas a Christmas movie?  
Eli Wilson : 2/13/2020 3:57 pm : link
The movie has nothing to do with Christmas and could have happened at any point in the winter.

Point is - what makes a movie a Christmas movie?
to me  
Greg from LI : 2/13/2020 5:16 pm : link
A Christmas movie has Christmas as a major theme that's part of the plot. Bad Santa, for instance, or Elf, or A Christmas Story.

If you removed all references to Christmas from Die Hard, it's exactly the same movie. The only notable difference is they'd lose the "Now I have a machine gun, ho ho ho" joke. Nothing else would change.

I mean, Lethal Weapon is also set during Christmas but no one says that one is a Christmas movie.
RE: to me  
Mad Mike : 2/13/2020 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14810735 Greg from LI said:
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The only notable difference is they'd lose the "Now I have a machine gun, ho ho ho" joke. Nothing else would change.

I mean, that is a pretty good line.
Just curious...  
Milton : 2/13/2020 5:20 pm : link
Have all of you watched the linked youtube video?
yes, we know it's a joke  
Greg from LI : 2/13/2020 5:22 pm : link
But it was an excuse to rekindle an old argument
RE: yes, we know it's a joke  
Milton : 2/13/2020 5:40 pm : link
In comment 14810745 Greg from LI said:
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But it was an excuse to rekindle an old argument
Well they do suggest debating it for the next three decades or something.
RE: there is a difference between a movie set during Christmas  
Hsilwek92 : 2/13/2020 5:47 pm : link
In comment 14810639 Greg from LI said:
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and a Christmas movie. Movies such as Die Hard and The Ice Harvest are not Christmas movies despite it being the setting.


Fucking LOVE The Ice Harvest.

What about Bad Santa?
Nothing says fun holiday movie fare...  
Crispino : 2/13/2020 7:33 pm : link
like a terrorist blowing a hostageís head off. Really evokes Christmas spirit.🙄
That was pretty funny.  
Pete in MD : 2/13/2020 8:04 pm : link
The part about Officer Al. "Don't worry, at the end he regains the confidence to shoot people again."
Yes, Bad Santa is a Christmas movie  
Greg from LI : 2/13/2020 10:24 pm : link
It's an essential part of the plot.
The debate will continue, as there are still people who believe  
mfsd : 2/13/2020 10:46 pm : link
Die Hard isnít a Christmas movie.

Just as some people believe the Earth is flat. In some circles that debate still rages...
What difference  
pjcas18 : 2/13/2020 10:59 pm : link
does it make?

Do they get some sort of prize?

RE: What difference  
UConn4523 : 2/13/2020 11:06 pm : link
In comment 14810908 pjcas18 said:
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does it make?

Do they get some sort of prize?


Because thereís no cooler guy at your work Christmas party than the guy who canít wait until someone asks him what his favorite Christmas movie is, like they are pulling the wool over everyoneís eyes.

Not a Christmas movie.
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I am Ninja : 2/13/2020 11:23 pm : link
You start the dumbest fucking threads.
Eyes Wide Shut  
flycatcher : 2/14/2020 6:27 am : link


Set during Christmastime. Extremely not a Christmas movie.
Trading Places  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2020 8:44 am : link
Christmas movie?

RE: Trading Places  
Greg from LI : 2/14/2020 8:47 am : link
In comment 14810990 pjcas18 said:
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Christmas movie?



Nah. Incidental to the plot.
RE: RE: Trading Places  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2020 8:54 am : link
In comment 14810995 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14810990 pjcas18 said:


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Christmas movie?





Nah. Incidental to the plot.


I'm just highlighting that like Diehard, other movies have Christmas themed scenes or plot lines, but that doesn't necessarily make them a "Christmas movie"
aha  
Greg from LI : 2/14/2020 9:12 am : link
It's just amusing to me mainly because of the similarities between Die Hard and Lethal Weapon - two action movies that came out within a year of each other, each one featuring a wisecracking tough guy, each one set during Christmas, and yet a lot of people vehemently insist one is a Christmas movie and absolutely no one says the same thing about the other.
RE: aha  
mfsd : 2/14/2020 9:25 am : link
In comment 14811021 Greg from LI said:
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It's just amusing to me mainly because of the similarities between Die Hard and Lethal Weapon - two action movies that came out within a year of each other, each one featuring a wisecracking tough guy, each one set during Christmas, and yet a lot of people vehemently insist one is a Christmas movie and absolutely no one says the same thing about the other.


Thatís a funny point. I hold the line on the Die Hard = Christmas movie thing simply bc it always riles people up. It is a silly debate after all

Maybe bc Die Hard actually revolves around an office Christmas party
RE: _________  
Milton : 2/14/2020 10:37 am : link
In comment 14810915 I am Ninja said:
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You start the dumbest fucking threads.
Admit it, you love me!
p.s.--Happy Valentine's Day!
Not  
13ODB : 2/15/2020 3:03 pm : link
A Christmas movie tired of this debate. Never was a debate until
A few years ago. How come lethal weapon is not considered one??
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