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NGT: 30 for 30 on Vick.

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/13/2020 8:58 pm
Got some free time this weekend & was thinking of checking it out. Anyone seen it? Worth the time?
Unless it ends with him being eaten alive...  
iMatt : 2/13/2020 9:13 pm : link
...by dogs at midfield, then I don't imagine it is. But that's just me.
it seems quite clear  
RasputinPrime : 2/13/2020 9:34 pm : link
that sans dogs we likely don't get to be lords of the universe. Anyone who did what he did doesn't get any of my time.
Tried to get through the first 90 minute episode and I got bored.  
PhiPsi125 : 2/13/2020 9:38 pm : link
Out of all the 30 for 30 shows, Vick is the one we needed a double dose of? Not one of their better ones IMO...but my disinterest in the material likely jades my thoughts on the topic.
iMatt  
Trainmaster : 2/13/2020 9:48 pm : link
+1
Thought it was good...  
John in No Cal : 2/13/2020 10:27 pm : link
Iíll save my thoughts until the part 2 but I found it interesting.
RE: iMatt  
eric2425ny : 2/13/2020 11:18 pm : link
In comment 14810889 Trainmaster said:
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+1


+2 Psychotic people abuse animals. Awful.
RE: RE: iMatt  
montanagiant : 2/13/2020 11:26 pm : link
In comment 14810912 eric2425ny said:
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+1



+2 Psychotic people abuse animals. Awful.

Spot on!
Even before the dog thing  
widmerseyebrow : 2/13/2020 11:46 pm : link
the guy just seemed to love the smell of his own farts. "The world can't get enough of Mike Vick." Always refers to his career as more than what it was.

Bottom line is he was never a super cerebral player or orator so I don't think I'll be seeking this out.
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christian : 2/13/2020 11:49 pm : link
As a life long vegetarian and animal rights advocate, I thought the sanctimony and hypocrisy from the time around Vick's arrest was rich.

He seems like he learned his lesson and is a better person for it.
People don't give a shit about the plight of other humans  
Belowtheshadows : 2/14/2020 12:18 am : link
But will loose their mind over a damn dog. Hilarious and hypocritical.
Iím a dog lover  
Ned In Atlanta : 2/14/2020 7:22 am : link
And I volunteer with dogs at the local shelter

I believe he paid his debt to society. By all accounts heís working to help better the plight of dogs and working to prevent this happening in the future.

Vick is beloved down south. A lot of people seem to insinuate that If you donít forgive him youíre a racist, which is absurd. I understand why someone would hate the guy even though I myself do not
RE: People don't give a shit about the plight of other humans  
SirLoinOfBeef : 2/14/2020 7:31 am : link
In comment 14810921 Belowtheshadows said:
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But will loose their mind over a damn dog. Hilarious and hypocritical.


You must be a cat person...

How about this, I wouldn't pit human beings to fight to the death for profit either. It's never ok to torture any living creature.
I Will Not Watch It  
BlueVinnie : 2/14/2020 7:33 am : link
Anyone who would abuse a dog, or any animal, is a complete scumbag.
As an animal rights advocate, glad to hear the anti-abuse sentiments.  
Giantgator : 2/14/2020 8:13 am : link
But have y'all seen factory farming and slaughterhouse videos?
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crick n NC : 2/14/2020 8:20 am : link
In comment 14810919 christian said:
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As a life long vegetarian and animal rights advocate, I thought the sanctimony and hypocrisy from the time around Vick's arrest was rich.

He seems like he learned his lesson and is a better person for it.


👍
RE: As an animal rights advocate, glad to hear the anti-abuse sentiments.  
LS : 2/14/2020 8:35 am : link
In comment 14810975 Giantgator said:
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But have y'all seen factory farming and slaughterhouse videos?

Are they pitting farm animals against each other in fights to the death for pleasure now too? Then electrocuting, or drowning the losers with their bare hands? Kinda different don't you think?
Wouldnít waste a minute of my life on anything Vick  
KDavies : 2/14/2020 8:38 am : link
Related, or the Aaron Hernandez crap. Donít understand the fascination. OJ at least had an interesting trial, which is the only reason I tuned into that
The difference is that people perpetuate the violence against  
Giantgator : 2/14/2020 8:50 am : link
farmed animals.
Tail docking, castration, teeth chipping, de-beaking , are all done without anesthesia, and are standard operating procedure.
RE: RE: As an animal rights advocate, glad to hear the anti-abuse sentiments.  
christian : 2/14/2020 8:51 am : link
In comment 14810981 LS said:
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But have y'all seen factory farming and slaughterhouse videos?


Are they pitting farm animals against each other in fights to the death for pleasure now too? Then electrocuting, or drowning the losers with their bare hands? Kinda different don't you think?


Different, sure. But if this about the capriciousness and savagery, they are both up the same alley.
Putting aside the morality  
Mike from Ohio : 2/14/2020 9:31 am : link
I thought the first part was decent, but they really built him up into something he never was in the NFL. When I watched that part of it, it was hard to not keep thinking he was a runner playing QB, and a sensational one, but always a mediocre passer at best.

I suppose they needed to do that to make the fall in part 2 more dramatic. I thought the first part could have been much more brief. They spent a lot of time belaboring the same points.
RE: Wouldnít waste a minute of my life on anything Vick  
Greg from LI : 2/14/2020 9:51 am : link
In comment 14810984 KDavies said:
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Related, or the Aaron Hernandez crap. Donít understand the fascination. OJ at least had an interesting trial, which is the only reason I tuned into that


Same. Obviously, I've always despised Vick. I have no idea what is so interesting about Aaron Hernandez. I saw that thing pop up on Netflix and couldn't for the life of me understand why anyone cared. What makes him any different than Rae Carruth? Yet, no one ever made chin-tugging documentaries about him.
RE: Putting aside the morality  
crick n NC : 2/14/2020 11:15 am : link
In comment 14811035 Mike from Ohio said:
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I thought the first part was decent, but they really built him up into something he never was in the NFL. When I watched that part of it, it was hard to not keep thinking he was a runner playing QB, and a sensational one, but always a mediocre passer at best.

I suppose they needed to do that to make the fall in part 2 more dramatic. I thought the first part could have been much more brief. They spent a lot of time belaboring the same points.


I feel most of his lacking as a passer was related to him not spending time in the film room or working on fundamentals. He openly admitted to relying on physical ability and not spending the extra time perfecting his mental game or working on his footwork as a passer. Vick had a tremendous arm, his accuracy I feel was directly impacted by his lack of attention to film study and footwork.
people act like Vick maliciously set out to kill dogs  
Platos : 2/14/2020 3:02 pm : link
or bred the dogs just to kill them.

yea dog fighting isn't a pretty thing but for some its a cultural thing. theres an ugly side, but theres an ugly side to a lot of hobbies that involve animals, hunting included. All these dog activists are completely fine with the generational inbreeding and forced cross breeding of an animal for their own selfish amusement but make two dogs fight and its game over?

personally I think its worse that people buy dogs for their own amusement and abandon them because they're not fit to take care of another living being.

don't look at the USA, look at other countries where there are entire gangs of stray dogs roaming towns because people selfishly bought them and can't take care of them. should those people be put in the clink too?

the way people reacted to Vick when it all went down was disgusting. people were waving effigy's of Vick, a black man from VA, with a noose around his neck. absolutely disgusting.

i'm not defending his actions, he broke the law. he also did more than enough to pay for his crime and people still can't get over it.
As a pro animal rights person myself..  
Sean : 2/14/2020 4:58 pm : link
Why are so many people so triggered by PETA? Iím not a member, but I get why they promote the things they do. Do I feel warm and fuzzy inside when I see an truck full of pigs on their way to get slaughtered?

Itís something I struggle with. Not to derail the thread or change course, but I saw animal rights referenced above and Iím curious about the PETA piece.
No interest  
Saquads26 : 2/14/2020 5:21 pm : link
Honestly if Vick died I wouldnít care.
No interest whatsoever  
UConn4523 : 2/14/2020 5:42 pm : link
youíd have to pay me to watch, in fact. He served his time but the damage was done.
RE: People don't give a shit about the plight of other humans  
Gmen703 : 2/14/2020 8:30 pm : link
In comment 14810921 Belowtheshadows said:
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But will loose their mind over a damn dog. Hilarious and hypocritical.


Crazy, right?

Don't get me wrong. I have a few hunting dogs that I love. They actually help put food on the table. But if they were to ever run up on an apex predator (eg bear), welp... they better follow my command from a distance.
RE: People don't give a shit about the plight of other humans  
UConn4523 : 2/14/2020 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14810921 Belowtheshadows said:
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But will loose their mind over a damn dog. Hilarious and hypocritical.


I didnít know we had to pick just one, who knew?
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