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Dion Lewis or Kenyan Drake as possible Barkley backups?

Big Blue '56 : 2/14/2020 7:22 am
No idea what the new staffís plans are for Gallman. TBD.


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Rosenblatt, NJ.com:

One target that makes sense: Dion Lewis. The Titans went away from Lewis this season once they decided to fully board the Derrick Henry train, and itís hard to blame them. But Lewis is still a capable backup that can produce when called upon, as seen when he rushed for 68 yards on 15 carries in Week 16 and had a 19 yard catch. Heís always been a quality pass-catcher, which is his best appeal. Heís still under contract with the Titans but theyíll likely release him to save money.



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Lombardo, NJ.com:

One target that makes sense: Kenyan Drake. Drake will likely be the odd man out in the Arizona Cardinalsí backfield, but his skill-set could make him an ideal partner for Barkley. Last season, Drake averaged 4.8 yards per attempt on his 171 carries, scored eight touchdowns, and caught 49 of his 64 targets for 336 receiving yards. Garrett would have the full playbook at his disposal with Drake on the field when Barkley catches a breather



Drake is 26, Lewis will be 30 around seasonís start.
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I'd say no to both.  
robbieballs2003 : 2/14/2020 7:24 am : link
Lewis is not what we need behind Barkley and why is Drake the odd man out in Arizona? Makes no sense. He's their RB. And why would he sign here to be Barkley's backup? He can compete for a starting job somewhere.
RE: I'd say no to both.  
Big Blue '56 : 2/14/2020 7:30 am : link
In comment 14810942 robbieballs2003 said:
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Lewis is not what we need behind Barkley and why is Drake the odd man out in Arizona? Makes no sense. He's their RB. And why would he sign here to be Barkley's backup? He can compete for a starting job somewhere.


Who would you like to see here other than Lewis or Drake?
After his performance in Arizona  
Stu11 : 2/14/2020 7:38 am : link
No way in hell Drake is signing somewhere to be a 5 carry a game caddy. like Robbie said, frankly after all his injuries I think David Johnson is gonna be the odd man out in Arizona.
RE: I'd say no to both.  
MtDizzle : 2/14/2020 7:48 am : link
In comment 14810942 robbieballs2003 said:
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Lewis is not what we need behind Barkley and why is Drake the odd man out in Arizona? Makes no sense. He's their RB. And why would he sign here to be Barkley's backup? He can compete for a starting job somewhere.


So letís keep a bunch of bums behind our generational RB? Sounds like a plan.
We need a tough between the tackles  
Simms11 : 2/14/2020 7:52 am : link
runner and Lewis is not that. Drake is a possibility, but at what cost? Back up RBs can also be found in the later part of the draft and theyíre going to be low cost.
No way Drake is add man out...  
DlineDominance : 2/14/2020 7:53 am : link
As much as David Johnson has the history and star power, Drake was much better last year. He will be in Arizona!
Drake  
mdthedream : 2/14/2020 7:58 am : link
is not going anywhere if Arizona is smart.
Peyton Barber.  
RicFlair : 2/14/2020 8:02 am : link
How about Peyton Barber?
I imagine  
Toth029 : 2/14/2020 8:03 am : link
They look for a power back in the draft or FA.

Drake is starting somewhere.
RE: RE: I'd say no to both.  
Klaatu : 2/14/2020 8:03 am : link
In comment 14810960 MtDizzle said:
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Lewis is not what we need behind Barkley and why is Drake the odd man out in Arizona? Makes no sense. He's their RB. And why would he sign here to be Barkley's backup? He can compete for a starting job somewhere.



So letís keep a bunch of bums behind our generational RB? Sounds like a plan.


That's not what he said.
Should be plenty of decent choices out there at RB  
LBH15 : 2/14/2020 8:10 am : link
for backups to Saquon. I would tend to lean towards someone with good pass protection skills and good hands though, and preferably not on the wrong side of 30.
Doubt Drake is an option  
giants#1 : 2/14/2020 8:30 am : link
He'll likely get $5-7M (at least) from someone.

David Johnson would have negative cap savings if cut, so he's likely returning to AZ.

Dion Lewis on a cheap 2 year (<$5M total) deal would be ok. He's versatile and a solid blocker.
Itís funny you guys say we need a short yardage guy  
NikkiMac : 2/14/2020 8:42 am : link
Yet Towards the end of the season Barkley made just about every third and short , I donít see whatís wrong with Gallman .....we need offensive linemen and Defense
Obviously,  
Big Blue '56 : 2/14/2020 8:50 am : link
Judge knows Lewis well, fwiw.
RE: RE: RE: I'd say no to both.  
Doug in MA : 2/14/2020 8:58 am : link
In comment 14810972 Klaatu said:
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Lewis is not what we need behind Barkley and why is Drake the odd man out in Arizona? Makes no sense. He's their RB. And why would he sign here to be Barkley's backup? He can compete for a starting job somewhere.



So letís keep a bunch of bums behind our generational RB? Sounds like a plan.



That's not what he said.



He said no to both...with kind a less than informative reason. He's asking if not them than who? I'd like to see his answer as well. Is he happy with the current situation?
No to both...  
EricJ : 2/14/2020 9:00 am : link
Lewis is DONE. Drank should be starting somewhere so he wont be happy as a backup.

Gallman is our guy. Don't over think it
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Klaatu : 2/14/2020 9:09 am : link
In comment 14811010 Doug in MA said:
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Lewis is not what we need behind Barkley and why is Drake the odd man out in Arizona? Makes no sense. He's their RB. And why would he sign here to be Barkley's backup? He can compete for a starting job somewhere.



So letís keep a bunch of bums behind our generational RB? Sounds like a plan.



That's not what he said.




He said no to both...with kind a less than informative reason. He's asking if not them than who? I'd like to see his answer as well. Is he happy with the current situation?


Yes, he said no to both. But he did not say anything close to "So letís keep a bunch of bums behind our generational RB? Sounds like a plan."

So, instead of saying something stupid, as well as inaccurate, MrDizzle could have simply asked, "If not them, who?" He could have asked robbie what type of RB he thought would be best as a backup to Barkley, and if he had anyone in mind, either free agency or the draft?

But he didn't. He went for a snarky, stupid, cheap shot, to poster who's probably forgotten more about football than MrDizzle will ever know.
Drake makes no sense  
ZogZerg : 2/14/2020 9:09 am : link
These guys are desperate to twat/produce crap aricles
RE: I'd say no to both.  
KDavies : 2/14/2020 9:11 am : link
In comment 14810942 robbieballs2003 said:
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Lewis is not what we need behind Barkley and why is Drake the odd man out in Arizona? Makes no sense. He's their RB. And why would he sign here to be Barkley's backup? He can compete for a starting job somewhere.


Exactly, my first thought. How is Drake the odd man out? He did quite well. There are reports Johnson is gone, and Edmonds is often injured.
RE: RE: I'd say no to both.  
KDavies : 2/14/2020 9:13 am : link
In comment 14811020 KDavies said:
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Lewis is not what we need behind Barkley and why is Drake the odd man out in Arizona? Makes no sense. He's their RB. And why would he sign here to be Barkley's backup? He can compete for a starting job somewhere.



Exactly, my first thought. How is Drake the odd man out? He did quite well. There are reports Johnson is gone, and Edmonds is often injured.


I should say rumors Johnson is gone, not reports. Regardless, he is often injured and not once he what was
Drake would be great in that role  
Mike from Ohio : 2/14/2020 9:15 am : link
But it is hard to see why Arizona would not want him back, or why he would choose to go to a team with an established #1 instead of a place to compete to be the starter or at least in a rotation.

We have no idea what the new staff thinks of Gallman. If they like him, their set. If they don't? Look to second tier of backs in free agency or a later round pick that may drop because they are more one dimensional power back, which may be fine for a guy who gets limited snaps behind Barkley.
RE: RE: I'd say no to both.  
robbieballs2003 : 2/14/2020 9:18 am : link
In comment 14810960 MtDizzle said:
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In comment 14810942 robbieballs2003 said:


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Lewis is not what we need behind Barkley and why is Drake the odd man out in Arizona? Makes no sense. He's their RB. And why would he sign here to be Barkley's backup? He can compete for a starting job somewhere.



So letís keep a bunch of bums behind our generational RB? Sounds like a plan.


Haha, way to not make any sense. Where did I say that? I agree we need another competent back.
Either would be great  
BobsYourUncle : 2/14/2020 9:20 am : link
But Drake is THE man in AZ... Johnson is the man out down there.

Lewis would be a great complimentary back to SB.. But I still like Gallman!! Wayne must have told Pat that he is a shitty coach... But the kid can play.
wouldn't put anything past DG  
GiantsFan84 : 2/14/2020 10:07 am : link
but this is simple. draft one or two in the late rounds and hope one hits.
Not sure what Lewis has left  
bc4life : 2/14/2020 10:14 am : link
in the tank. He has some plays in him - but an entire season? If so, how many?
Wonder what new RB coach can do  
bc4life : 2/14/2020 10:19 am : link
with Hilliman. He's got some physical tools - but was on Practice Squad and brought up when SB got hurt and was clearly not ready
Day 3 RB  
Saquads Barkley : 2/14/2020 10:38 am : link
Get one fresh and cheap.
RE: Wonder what new RB coach can do  
GiantsFan84 : 2/14/2020 10:44 am : link
In comment 14811088 bc4life said:
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with Hilliman. He's got some physical tools - but was on Practice Squad and brought up when SB got hurt and was clearly not ready


hillman sucks. gallman always seemed average to me. i'm still not sure what happened with him last year
You don't sign backup RBs for anything more than chump change  
Milton : 2/14/2020 10:55 am : link
Solid backups are found in the middle-to-late rounds of the draft and milked for the four years of their rookie contract.
people saying no to Drake  
Rudy5757 : 2/14/2020 11:09 am : link
because they think he should be a starter is silly. If you can get a guy to be a backup who you think should be a starter isnt that a good thing? Ideally you would like a starting caliber guy as a backup at every position.

I dont think we should break the bank for a backup RB, but I would be interested in these guys to fill roles for the right price. I want to get away from having to start the practice squad guys. I like Gallman but it seems like every time we need him he gets hurt.
RE: After his performance in Arizona  
BillKo : 2/14/2020 11:25 am : link
In comment 14810953 Stu11 said:
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No way in hell Drake is signing somewhere to be a 5 carry a game caddy. like Robbie said, frankly after all his injuries I think David Johnson is gonna be the odd man out in Arizona.


My exact thoughts when I saw Drake's name.

Guy wants to play/start, and get commensurate pay.
I'm confused...  
SirYesSir : 2/14/2020 1:37 pm : link
Dion Lewis is done
Kenyon Drake is way overqualified to sign on as a backup
RE: You don't sign backup RBs for anything more than chump change  
Scyber : 2/14/2020 1:57 pm : link
In comment 14811128 Milton said:
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Solid backups are found in the middle-to-late rounds of the draft and milked for the four years of their rookie contract.


^This. Better to invest money in the OL that can make any RB even better.
RE: After his performance in Arizona  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/14/2020 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14810953 Stu11 said:
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No way in hell Drake is signing somewhere to be a 5 carry a game caddy. like Robbie said, frankly after all his injuries I think David Johnson is gonna be the odd man out in Arizona.


Drake is a starter. Miami just never wanted to let him for some reason. Heís not going to pass up his best shot to start and make starter money to come here for a vet minimum type deal.

Lewis is still a viable back up because of one game. Yeah. No thanks. Yes they need a back up. Neither of those guys make any sense. If Barkley gets interesting or hurt Lewis is not a guy to trust.
RE: I'd say no to both.  
Justlurking : 2/14/2020 2:48 pm : link
In comment 14810942 robbieballs2003 said:
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Lewis is not what we need behind Barkley and why is Drake the odd man out in Arizona? Makes no sense. He's their RB. And why would he sign here to be Barkley's backup? He can compete for a starting job somewhere.


Drake will cost way too much. Played well for Arizona. When you have Saquon and his salary, your backups should be a rotating group of mid/late round RBs on their rookie contracts and journeymen. Cannot over allocate cap to RB.
RE: Wonder what new RB coach can do  
Justlurking : 2/14/2020 2:51 pm : link
In comment 14811088 bc4life said:
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with Hilliman. He's got some physical tools - but was on Practice Squad and brought up when SB got hurt and was clearly not ready


He was the worst RB I have ever seen play for the giants. He should not be back next season.
RE: people saying no to Drake  
BlueVinnie : 2/14/2020 3:08 pm : link
In comment 14811142 Rudy5757 said:
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because they think he should be a starter is silly. If you can get a guy to be a backup who you think should be a starter isnt that a good thing? Ideally you would like a starting caliber guy as a backup at every position.

I dont think we should break the bank for a backup RB, but I would be interested in these guys to fill roles for the right price. I want to get away from having to start the practice squad guys. I like Gallman but it seems like every time we need him he gets hurt.


You've answered your own question. Drake's not signing here unless we do break the bank for him (relatively speaking). For the amount of playing time he'd receive here, we'd most likely have to *significantly* outbid all other teams to get him.
Draft  
JPinstripes : 2/14/2020 5:17 pm : link
AJ Dillon from BC on day 3, kid can pound the rock and would take some wear and tear of SB.
Didnít kenyan drake  
tyrik13 : 2/14/2020 5:53 pm : link
Lead the league in rushing the last 4 or 5 games of the season? I couldíve swore he did. No way in hell hes the odd man out in Arizona, he may very well be the starter going forward and David Johnson will be shipped out. Dion Lewis.. Iím cool with but Iíd rather draft a player like Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Zach Moss, Antonio Gibson, in the mid to late rounds as they are all very versatile and run hard downhill
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