He’s not chasing money, his ego is at stake and he wants to go somewhere he feels he will thrive and prove he can still play and without Belichick. He’s gonna go somewhere with a good line and weapons in place.
He’s not chasing money, his ego is at stake and he wants to go somewhere he feels he will thrive and prove he can still play and without Belichick. He’s gonna go somewhere with a good line and weapons in place.
100% disagree with this line of thinking.
Why would Brady feel he still has to prove anything? He’s the GOAT. He knows it. Everyone else knows it. After all these years of giving the Patriots a “bargain” by signing smaller contracts, I believe he’s looking to go somewhere where he’ll be valued the most, regardless of the team situation. The Raiders are a very attractive option considering all the young talent on offense and the chance to be the face of the new look Las Vegas team. If he just cares about being in a situation where the team is already set in place, why would he leave NE? Even in a bad season they were still one of the top teams in the NFL.
He’s not chasing money, his ego is at stake and he wants to go somewhere he feels he will thrive and prove he can still play and without Belichick. He’s gonna go somewhere with a good line and weapons in place.
more than Gruden. With all of the bad publicity about the new stadium, its location and lack of parking, cozying up to the resorts, Davis is desperate for something to sell seat licenses.
I have my doubts about Gruden, but he’s not that dumb to think that allocating $30M to a 43 yr old QB who played pretty poorly last year is a good move.
you almost always want more. And it’s not about making more it’s about respect, I highly doubt he’s taking a discount. Is he a $30m QB? I don’t think so, but that’s another conversation.
you almost always want more. And it’s not about making more it’s about respect, I highly doubt he’s taking a discount. Is he a $30m QB? I don’t think so, but that’s another conversation.
He is not a 5 year 150 million QB with 60 guaranteed.
But he absolutely is a 2 year 60 mil QB with 35-40 guaranteed.
And at this point in his career it’s highly unlikely that he can learn a new system and get another shot at a SB which is why if that was his goal he’d stay put. There isn’t a team right now in the league that he can go to and be the favorite to win except maybe San Fran.
He’s not chasing money, his ego is at stake and he wants to go somewhere he feels he will thrive and prove he can still play and without Belichick. He’s gonna go somewhere with a good line and weapons in place.
I disagree. I think Brady wants a big paycheck.
He’s never cared about a paycheck, why would they start now? His wife is worth $360 million, that’s not a concern. His ego and winning is.
If Vegas wants excitement and a draw, it's a good move Â
"Thirty million per year, plus my picture on all those Vegas flashing neon billboards? Plus I get to meet Wayne Newton? Golly, gotta think about that."
and he can’t actually go anywhere and end up being in a better position to win unless a team like San Fran cuts JG and signs him. He will be lucky to go 8-8 on the Raiders and if he was able to get into the playoffs he’d be playing on the road for 3 straight rounds, something that he isn’t able to do.
If he leaves NE, it’s all about the money and setting up his after football businesses,
but I think Brady is done (as he should be at 43). Anyone who signs him (including NE) to that kind of contract is just signing a name. He looked VERY pedestrian last year, and that will only get worse.
...it's impossible to truly speculate, because that's the wild card in the equation. If you assume that his relationship with Belichick is a non-issue, I think this is all about returning to the Patriots on a deal that maximizes his likelihood of remaining their starting QB for more than just the 2020 season. It's not about the money, it's not about proving he can win without Belichick, it's about signing a contract with the Patriots that ties them to him for at least two more seasons.
At least that's what makes sense to me. In the past, signing a team-friendly deal was no threat to his job security. It's no longer a given that he will be their starting QB in 2021, thus making it more important to him that any new contract ties the team's hands for at least two seasons. It doesn't need to be a record-breaking contract, just one with two fully guaranteed years on it. Or something like that.
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[quote] more than Gruden. With all of the bad publicity about the new stadium, its location and lack of parking, cozying up to the resorts, Davis is desperate for something to sell seat licenses.
I don't know what fake news you read, all PSLs in Allegiant Stadium (65,000) were sold out months ago. Everyone who lives in Las Vegas is excited about the stadium. Bad publicity, I don't know where you get that. Parking, yes, it is below the NFL guideline, but, Las Vegas seems to be able handle 200,000-300,000 events (Nascar, Aviation Nation, New Year's Eve) on a regular basis.
RE: Money? I think he's more about another championship... Â
Brady has money and plenty of it. Guys like him are in it for the ring, the competition, the legacy.
Money is always a consideration, of course. But I think Brady will take less money to be put with a roster that can compete for a championship.
So which roster? I keep hearing that winning is first and foremost - where can he go that will have a better roster and coach than NE?
If he leaves and it’s to the Raiders it’s a 100% business decision. Just because he’s rich doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to maximize earnings. Why do billionaires keep working? Because they want more.
RE: Money? I think he's more about another championship... Â
Brady has money and plenty of it. Guys like him are in it for the ring, the competition, the legacy.
Money is always a consideration, of course. But I think Brady will take less money to be put with a roster that can compete for a championship.
So which roster? I keep hearing that winning is first and foremost - where can he go that will have a better roster and coach than NE?
If he leaves and it’s to the Raiders it’s a 100% business decision. Just because he’s rich doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to maximize earnings. Why do billionaires keep working? Because they want more.
RE: RE: Money? I think he's more about another championship... Â
Why do billionaires keep working? Because they want more.
Or they enjoy what they're doing and want to keep doing it. I think it's more about the guaranteed years than the guaranteed money for Brady. He's on borrowed time and he knows it.
Brady has bee playing in the NE scheme his whole career, it would Â
And at this point in his career it’s highly unlikely that he can learn a new system and get another shot at a SB which is why if that was his goal he’d stay put. There isn’t a team right now in the league that he can go to and be the favorite to win except maybe San Fran.
if anyone can learn a new system, its Brady.
That always bothered me with saying we cant change the system because of Eli. If anyone can quickly pick up a new systems, its guys with tons of experience, football IQ and work ethic. Thats not to say system fit is not an issue, but verbiage and different route concepts? No problem.
it’s the WRs, line and RBs learning what Brady wants too which is going to be a roller coaster year 1 of whatever new team he goes to. Then year 2 he’s 44 - just an absolutely slim chance of a playoff berth leaving NE let alone a super bowl.
Presumably the skill players will have to adjust Â
Is there another QB that can be successful more quickly than Brady there?
I don’t think so.
Vegas is a different story with a capable player in place. In Vegas his main role will be to sell jerseys and tickets and will easily cover that 30 mil figure in that regard.
RE: Presumably the skill players will have to adjust Â
To whatever QB comes in. Are you saying Brady will make it more difficult than another player?
Yes. Many WRs just couldn’t grasp the offensive scheme and timing in NE. While I don’t think that scheme is copied outside of NE you are still asking a guy who’s done it his way for 20 years to either change or keep it and ask the players around him to change. Realistically it’s a little of both but I don’t see how it can get easier for Brady to leave NE. If this was 4 or 5 years ago, sure. Not now.
Yeah, if he truly cares about winning as the end all be all staying in NE is his best ticket to do so. Leaving adds in a ton of competitive risk for him but likely more money which is why I think him leaving would be a business decision.
Carr is awful. Raiders have extra draft picks and some good young players
Carr is not awful, people need to let go of this old narrative. He was 8th in the league in passing yds (4K+), completed 70% of his passes, threw 21 Tds and 8 Ints, and had a 100 QB rating.
I don't understand why Gruden, who I think is a great HC, would drop Carr for a 1-2 yr old QB
Carr is awful. Raiders have extra draft picks and some good young players
Carr is not awful, people need to let go of this old narrative. He was 8th in the league in passing yds (4K+), completed 70% of his passes, threw 21 Tds and 8 Ints, and had a 100 QB rating.
I don't understand why Gruden, who I think is a great HC, would drop Carr for a 1-2 yr old QB
Yup. Carr had the 2nd best completion percentage in the NFL. Only behind Brees and his receivers are nothing special.
His top guy was his TE who had 178 yards and 2 TDs in his 3 year career.
Tyrell Williams started hot. Got hurt and was bad when he came back. His 2nd WR was a 5th round rookie whose 5'10 180 pound white guy that ran a 4.6 40. The rest of their receiving corp is pathetic.
Still, LOL
100% disagree with this line of thinking.
Why would Brady feel he still has to prove anything? He’s the GOAT. He knows it. Everyone else knows it. After all these years of giving the Patriots a “bargain” by signing smaller contracts, I believe he’s looking to go somewhere where he’ll be valued the most, regardless of the team situation. The Raiders are a very attractive option considering all the young talent on offense and the chance to be the face of the new look Las Vegas team. If he just cares about being in a situation where the team is already set in place, why would he leave NE? Even in a bad season they were still one of the top teams in the NFL.
I disagree. I think Brady wants a big paycheck.
I have my doubts about Gruden, but he’s not that dumb to think that allocating $30M to a 43 yr old QB who played pretty poorly last year is a good move.
He is not a 5 year 150 million QB with 60 guaranteed.
But he absolutely is a 2 year 60 mil QB with 35-40 guaranteed.
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He’s not chasing money, his ego is at stake and he wants to go somewhere he feels he will thrive and prove he can still play and without Belichick. He’s gonna go somewhere with a good line and weapons in place.
I disagree. I think Brady wants a big paycheck.
He’s never cared about a paycheck, why would they start now? His wife is worth $360 million, that’s not a concern. His ego and winning is.
"Thirty million per year, plus my picture on all those Vegas flashing neon billboards? Plus I get to meet Wayne Newton? Golly, gotta think about that."
If he leaves NE, it’s all about the money and setting up his after football businesses,
Money is always a consideration, of course. But I think Brady will take less money to be put with a roster that can compete for a championship.
At least that's what makes sense to me. In the past, signing a team-friendly deal was no threat to his job security. It's no longer a given that he will be their starting QB in 2021, thus making it more important to him that any new contract ties the team's hands for at least two seasons. It doesn't need to be a record-breaking contract, just one with two fully guaranteed years on it. Or something like that.
[quote] more than Gruden. With all of the bad publicity about the new stadium, its location and lack of parking, cozying up to the resorts, Davis is desperate for something to sell seat licenses.
I don't know what fake news you read, all PSLs in Allegiant Stadium (65,000) were sold out months ago. Everyone who lives in Las Vegas is excited about the stadium. Bad publicity, I don't know where you get that. Parking, yes, it is below the NFL guideline, but, Las Vegas seems to be able handle 200,000-300,000 events (Nascar, Aviation Nation, New Year's Eve) on a regular basis.
Money is always a consideration, of course. But I think Brady will take less money to be put with a roster that can compete for a championship.
So which roster? I keep hearing that winning is first and foremost - where can he go that will have a better roster and coach than NE?
If he leaves and it’s to the Raiders it’s a 100% business decision. Just because he’s rich doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to maximize earnings. Why do billionaires keep working? Because they want more.
Money is always a consideration, of course. But I think Brady will take less money to be put with a roster that can compete for a championship.
So which roster? I keep hearing that winning is first and foremost - where can he go that will have a better roster and coach than NE?
If he leaves and it’s to the Raiders it’s a 100% business decision. Just because he’s rich doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to maximize earnings. Why do billionaires keep working? Because they want more.
if anyone can learn a new system, its Brady.
That always bothered me with saying we cant change the system because of Eli. If anyone can quickly pick up a new systems, its guys with tons of experience, football IQ and work ethic. Thats not to say system fit is not an issue, but verbiage and different route concepts? No problem.
Remember Rams from St Louis to LA? This is a club of multi-millionaire/billionare owners playing monopoly folks.
He is not a 5 year 150 million QB with 60 guaranteed.
But he absolutely is a 2 year 60 mil QB with 35-40 guaranteed.
That is very debatable. He’ll be 43 and he was pretty mediocre last year. Buyer beware.
I don’t think so.
Vegas is a different story with a capable player in place. In Vegas his main role will be to sell jerseys and tickets and will easily cover that 30 mil figure in that regard.
Yes. Many WRs just couldn’t grasp the offensive scheme and timing in NE. While I don’t think that scheme is copied outside of NE you are still asking a guy who’s done it his way for 20 years to either change or keep it and ask the players around him to change. Realistically it’s a little of both but I don’t see how it can get easier for Brady to leave NE. If this was 4 or 5 years ago, sure. Not now.
Yeah, if he truly cares about winning as the end all be all staying in NE is his best ticket to do so. Leaving adds in a ton of competitive risk for him but likely more money which is why I think him leaving would be a business decision.
Carr is not awful, people need to let go of this old narrative. He was 8th in the league in passing yds (4K+), completed 70% of his passes, threw 21 Tds and 8 Ints, and had a 100 QB rating.
I don't understand why Gruden, who I think is a great HC, would drop Carr for a 1-2 yr old QB
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Carr is awful. Raiders have extra draft picks and some good young players
Carr is not awful, people need to let go of this old narrative. He was 8th in the league in passing yds (4K+), completed 70% of his passes, threw 21 Tds and 8 Ints, and had a 100 QB rating.
I don't understand why Gruden, who I think is a great HC, would drop Carr for a 1-2 yr old QB
Yup. Carr had the 2nd best completion percentage in the NFL. Only behind Brees and his receivers are nothing special.
His top guy was his TE who had 178 yards and 2 TDs in his 3 year career.
Tyrell Williams started hot. Got hurt and was bad when he came back. His 2nd WR was a 5th round rookie whose 5'10 180 pound white guy that ran a 4.6 40. The rest of their receiving corp is pathetic.