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Upcoming Giants news for Compensatory Picks

YANKEE28 : 2/15/2020 4:43 pm
Last year, the NFL announced the 32 compensatory picks at 3:30 EST on February 22nd- the Friday before the NFL Combine.

The guys over at OverTheCap do a great job for football fans interested in the picks and this year they reasonably predict that the NFL will make the picks known this Friday, February 21st-which is (like last year) the Friday before the NFL Combine.

To review what has been mentioned in many threads before, we are expecting the Giants to get:

3rd for losing Landon Collins
7th for losing Mario Edwards
7th for losing Josh Mauro

Over The Cap also states that there is a very small outside chance the Giants could get a 7th for losing Kerry Wynn (only if they are wrong on one of their 32 pick predictions).

Right now the Giants have all their picks except the 3rd that went to the Jets.

The Giants do get a New Orleans 7th for Eli Apple.

From all indications, the Giants trade of BJ Goodson to the Packers will not result in compensation. Apparently compensation would have been a swap of 7th rounders relating to a 2018 trading of Packer Ty Montgomery to the Ravens. Obviously the Ravens finished with a better record than the Giants, so no swap will occur there.

Best guess is that the Giants and Giants fans will learn this Friday afternoon, February 21st the exact slotting of 10 draft picks (6+1+3).

If OverTheCap is correct, the Giants final pick will also be the Mr. Irrelevant Pick-the last pick in the 2020 draft.

In what should be a slow week in the NFL, expect some Giants news on draft picks this Friday afternoon.
Thank you  
V.I.G. : 2/15/2020 5:02 pm : link
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Having 11  
TommyWiseau : 2/15/2020 5:33 pm : link
draft picks will be huge, even if 4 of them are 7th rounders (more chances to pick up some guys before they hit UDFA). If we can make a move down in round one to the 5-7 area to pick up additional 2nd + other compenstation that would be outstanding. I would LOVE to move back into the 25-32 pick range using our 2nd round pick + additional assets to grab Tyler Biadasz. Interior Olineman always fall to the mid 20s and he could be outstanding value at that point in the draft (plus you secure a 5th year on his contract).
I am almost positive  
Jay on the Island : 2/15/2020 5:56 pm : link
That the Giants won’t get a pick for losing Mauro because he was released prior to week one and signed back a few days later.
RE: Having 11  
81_Great_Dane : 2/15/2020 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14811876 TommyWiseau said:
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draft picks will be huge, even if 4 of them are 7th rounders (more chances to pick up some guys before they hit UDFA).
I feel differently, especially if they are able to trade down in the first and pick up an additional day 2 pick or more.

The Giants might be able to keep 11 rookies, though that is a lot; the youth movement is great for the future but bad for the present. But you can't really bring in more than about two new "redshirts" each year, and that's mostly what you get in the seventh -- projects who have upside but aren't ready to play this season. Four seventh-rounders pretty much means four redshirts, unless you get very lucky with an Ahmad Bradshaw, or draft your new kicker or punter or long-snapper.

There isn't going to be enough space to keep that many guys who aren't ready to play, unless you find a way to stash them on IR, which isn't ideal for their development either.

It looks to me like 11 or 12 picks with four in the seventh round means you'd end up having to cut either last year's projects or some of this year's draft picks or both.

I'd rather flip two of those 7ths for a 6th for 2020 or 2021.

The whole "Mr. Irrelevant" thing is outdated. The draft used to have a lot more rounds. The last guy picked in the 12th round, or later, was a huge long shot to make a roster. With fewer rounds, draft picks are more precious and the last guy picked will probably stick somewhere -- mostly likely with the team that picked him. Unless that team had 12 picks including four seventh-rounders or something.
Simplified...  
Torrag : 2/15/2020 10:23 pm : link
99% chance we're getting a 3rd and two 7th Rounders.
Thanks Yankee28  
Gregorio : 2/16/2020 4:58 am : link
Great preview. Getting a late 3rd would take some sting out of losing the 2020 3rd.
Thanks Yankee. Nice job  
LBH15 : 2/16/2020 7:35 am : link
7th round picks for those two guys, and not BJ Goodson, is a bit crazy. Not that the percentages say they will amount to much but maybe we find a diamond in the rough.
Any way  
XBRONX : 2/16/2020 8:01 am : link
we can keep trading down and get every pick in the seventh round? Wouldn't that be great to watch the last day of the draft.
RE: RE: Having 11  
k2tampa : 2/16/2020 8:19 am : link
In comment 14811925 81_Great_Dane said:
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In comment 14811876 TommyWiseau said:


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draft picks will be huge, even if 4 of them are 7th rounders (more chances to pick up some guys before they hit UDFA).

I feel differently, especially if they are able to trade down in the first and pick up an additional day 2 pick or more.

The Giants might be able to keep 11 rookies, though that is a lot; the youth movement is great for the future but bad for the present. But you can't really bring in more than about two new "redshirts" each year, and that's mostly what you get in the seventh -- projects who have upside but aren't ready to play this season. Four seventh-rounders pretty much means four redshirts, unless you get very lucky with an Ahmad Bradshaw, or draft your new kicker or punter or long-snapper.

There isn't going to be enough space to keep that many guys who aren't ready to play, unless you find a way to stash them on IR, which isn't ideal for their development either.

It looks to me like 11 or 12 picks with four in the seventh round means you'd end up having to cut either last year's projects or some of this year's draft picks or both.

I'd rather flip two of those 7ths for a 6th for 2020 or 2021.

The whole "Mr. Irrelevant" thing is outdated. The draft used to have a lot more rounds. The last guy picked in the 12th round, or later, was a huge long shot to make a roster. With fewer rounds, draft picks are more precious and the last guy picked will probably stick somewhere -- mostly likely with the team that picked him. Unless that team had 12 picks including four seventh-rounders or something.

Two words: practice squad.
RE: Having 11  
DavidinBMNY : 2/16/2020 11:24 am : link
In comment 14811876 TommyWiseau said:
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draft picks will be huge, even if 4 of them are 7th rounders (more chances to pick up some guys before they hit UDFA). If we can make a move down in round one to the 5-7 area to pick up additional 2nd + other compenstation that would be outstanding. I would LOVE to move back into the 25-32 pick range using our 2nd round pick + additional assets to grab Tyler Biadasz. Interior Olineman always fall to the mid 20s and he could be outstanding value at that point in the draft (plus you secure a 5th year on his contract).
Also a good year to trade one for a 7th next year, assuming they will be active in FA it becomes next year's comp so to speak.
no reason to get worked up over  
fkap : 2/16/2020 11:57 am : link
7th round picks. They guarantee you get your choice of glorified UDFA. But they're also basically UDFA, and while it's ok to be hopeful, no reason to get excited.

If they replace last years hopefulls, it means that hope died
RE: RE: RE: Having 11  
81_Great_Dane : 2/16/2020 12:17 pm : link
In comment 14811986 k2tampa said:
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In comment 14811925 81_Great_Dane said:


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In comment 14811876 TommyWiseau said:


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draft picks will be huge, even if 4 of them are 7th rounders (more chances to pick up some guys before they hit UDFA).

I feel differently, especially if they are able to trade down in the first and pick up an additional day 2 pick or more.

The Giants might be able to keep 11 rookies, though that is a lot; the youth movement is great for the future but bad for the present. But you can't really bring in more than about two new "redshirts" each year, and that's mostly what you get in the seventh -- projects who have upside but aren't ready to play this season. Four seventh-rounders pretty much means four redshirts, unless you get very lucky with an Ahmad Bradshaw, or draft your new kicker or punter or long-snapper.

There isn't going to be enough space to keep that many guys who aren't ready to play, unless you find a way to stash them on IR, which isn't ideal for their development either.

It looks to me like 11 or 12 picks with four in the seventh round means you'd end up having to cut either last year's projects or some of this year's draft picks or both.

I'd rather flip two of those 7ths for a 6th for 2020 or 2021.

The whole "Mr. Irrelevant" thing is outdated. The draft used to have a lot more rounds. The last guy picked in the 12th round, or later, was a huge long shot to make a roster. With fewer rounds, draft picks are more precious and the last guy picked will probably stick somewhere -- mostly likely with the team that picked him. Unless that team had 12 picks including four seventh-rounders or something.


Two words: practice squad.
Yes, counting practice squad in my post. Still can’t keep that many projects. Practice squad guys get promoted during the season. Some have to be more advanced—like last year’s projects and 2nd-year guys let go by their original teams.
Seventh  
AcidTest : 2/16/2020 1:06 pm : link
round picks aren't worth that much to anyone, so you might as well use them. We'd probably have to package three just to get a fifth, which itself is a low round pick. Bring in as many guys as possible and let them compete. This team needs talent.
RE: Seventh  
81_Great_Dane : 2/16/2020 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14812109 AcidTest said:
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round picks aren't worth that much to anyone, so you might as well use them. We'd probably have to package three just to get a fifth, which itself is a low round pick. Bring in as many guys as possible and let them compete. This team needs talent.
Seventh-rounders have some value as a way to get high-upside guys who aren't pro-ready. Agree that it would probably take three to get a fifth. I'm thinking two to get a sixth, and if you trade current picks for something in next year's draft, you usually get more value back. I'd happily see a trade of two of this year's sevenths for a sixth in 2021, or something along those lines.
We still owe the Jets either a 4th or a 5th  
Rudy5757 : 2/17/2020 10:04 am : link
for the LW trade. I guess that we will at least let him hit FA so I expect it to be a 5th.
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