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NFT: Correaís excuse on why Altuve didnít want his jersey ripped

bigblue5611_2 : 2/15/2020 9:43 pm
Off has to be the weakest excuse yet, and thatís saying something.

[quote] "So, one, he didn't want to take his shirt off because his wife had told my wife earlier in the year for me to not do that. So he was telling me not to do it. And, number two, he had an unfinished tattoo that looked kinda bad that he didn't want people to see and people to talk about. That was the reason."[\quote]

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Yeah  
Eli owns all : 2/15/2020 9:51 pm : link
Saw dusty baker wants all players to be suspended for intentionally beaming Astro players. These players are pissed and have reason to be pissed at the Astros. Manfred will screw still protect HOUSTON I guarantee it.
Wow, thatís pretty fucking stupid.  
Leg of Theismann : 2/15/2020 11:06 pm : link
ďBecause his wife told my wife to tell me not to do that. Thatís why he was telling us not to do that.Ē

Thatís literally just random words strung together as a pitiful excuse for a sentence. That made no sense whatsoever.

I really donít understand how their title wasnít vacated. They flat-out cheated. Clearly broke the rules and there is hard evidence for it. Including their own admission to knowingly breaking the rules. How is their championship legitimate?? Thatís basically just sending the message that MLB rules are pretty much just suggestions, but if you break them you still get to win and keep your trophy. Wtf? What is the point of even having rules if you can break them and still get to keep your championship just as long as you arenít caught at the time youíre breaking them? If youíre caught AFTER the fact, oh well, thatís MLBís fault not Houstonís, therefore they get to keep their championship.

The sad thing is the real reason why they arenít vacating the title is because theyíd be afraid of ticket holders suing for their money back. I think thatís stupid. The ticket holders werenít paying for their team to win a championship, they were paying to watch MLB baseball with no guarantee of either team winning or losing. Now weíre simply going back and saying ďactually the Astros lost, because they cheated.Ē Same way if a team scores a game winning touchdown on the last play of the game and itís called back for holding. Game over. The fans donít get their money back simply because they thought for 5 seconds that their team won. Same thing here. You got what you paid for: MLB baseball. The outcome being changed after the fact doesnít warrant a class action law suit by the fans, itís unrelated.

Unless Iím mistaken: I donít think thereís any precedent for fans suing their own team for their vacated title?

Meanwhile it doesnít matter because the dodgers fans are apparently suing the Astros now. Not sure it will go anywhere but MLBís dickless attempt at avoiding lawsuit turned out to be pointless.

MLB and especially the commissioner are a bunch of fucking pussies.

did u see correa's interview?  
lightemup : 2/16/2020 1:12 am : link
man, what a joke that guy is. acting like the Astros are victims in all of this. Getting angry that people are questioning them about using buzzers, but not about all of the other ways they cheated. Either way you're a cheater Carlos.
I love that everyone hates the Stros now, join the movement  
adamg : 2/16/2020 1:19 am : link
I'm a Stros hater hipster. I hated them from the beginning of their AL run, when they had that douche bag Carlos Gomez. Then Altuve with his Napoleon complex. Fuck them. And fuck them for a long time.
Schedule  
Jim in Tampa : 2/16/2020 5:23 am : link
I find it a little odd that the Yanks don't play the Astros in spring training this year. With their stadiums are just over an hour apart the teams have always scheduled a "home and home" in past years.

Yanks visit Houston in May (15-17) but the Astros don't come to Yankee Stadium until late Sept. (21-24) when the games might be too significant for the Yanks to think about retaliation.

But I still wouldn't want to be Altuve the next time he stepped into the box against Chapman.
RE: I love that everyone hates the Stros now, join the movement  
mfsd : 2/16/2020 7:28 am : link
In comment 14811965 adamg said:
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I'm a Stros hater hipster. I hated them from the beginning of their AL run, when they had that douche bag Carlos Gomez. Then Altuve with his Napoleon complex. Fuck them. And fuck them for a long time.


Whatís remarkable about this scandal vs most others in baseball history is how many opposing players feel the same way.

With other things in the past like steroids, a variety of drugs, Pete Rose gambling, etc, players have for the most part not criticized other players too much, at least not publicly. Probably bc they knew a lot of people were doing it, with steroids for example.

But in this case everyone hates the Astros and their BS excuses, including many players.
Baker wanting "zero tolerance"  
section125 : 2/16/2020 7:53 am : link
for players getting hit...yeah ok. I do not advocate bean balls but absolutely favor brush back pitches. So if a ball gets a little off line to Altuve, who dives over the plate, the pitcher gets tossed and suspended?
If Manfred goes for that, the owners should fire him. Yes I can see protecting players from injury but you cannot give the Astros the advantage by threat of suspension for inside pitches. Plays right into their hands.
My kids had better excuses  
Steve L : 2/16/2020 8:26 am : link
When they were five. Fuck these cheaters.
RE: Schedule  
jgambrosio : 2/16/2020 8:47 am : link
In comment 14811971 Jim in Tampa said:
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I find it a little odd that the Yanks don't play the Astros in spring training this year. With their stadiums are just over an hour apart the teams have always scheduled a "home and home" in past years.

Yanks visit Houston in May (15-17) but the Astros don't come to Yankee Stadium until late Sept. (21-24) when the games might be too significant for the Yanks to think about retaliation.

But I still wouldn't want to be Altuve the next time he stepped into the box against Chapman.


Houston moved their spring training out to West Palm. Still doesn't make sense though as they play the Nationals who they share the stadium with (tickets are already sold out) and the Yankees tend to do a weekend up in Jupiter when they play the Marlin's and Cardinals when they don't finish in Miami at the big league park.
RE: Baker wanting  
jgambrosio : 2/16/2020 8:53 am : link
In comment 14811980 section125 said:
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for players getting hit...yeah ok. I do not advocate bean balls but absolutely favor brush back pitches. So if a ball gets a little off line to Altuve, who dives over the plate, the pitcher gets tossed and suspended?
If Manfred goes for that, the owners should fire him. Yes I can see protecting players from injury but you cannot give the Astros the advantage by threat of suspension for inside pitches. Plays right into their hands.


Baker is already trying to protect himself for a shitty season, not the players. His attempt to get in front of this is a joke.

I am curious as to what the owners think about all of this though. It's been only players speaking out. Wonder what mark Walter and Guggenheim think. Cashman has been vocal but nothing from steinbrenner.

Am aside bit Verlander hinted that more is to come out in the coming days. Any conjectures as to what that's about?
RE: RE: Schedule  
Jim in Tampa : 2/16/2020 9:12 am : link
In comment 14811993 jgambrosio said:
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In comment 14811971 Jim in Tampa said:


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I find it a little odd that the Yanks don't play the Astros in spring training this year. With their stadiums are just over an hour apart the teams have always scheduled a "home and home" in past years.

Yanks visit Houston in May (15-17) but the Astros don't come to Yankee Stadium until late Sept. (21-24) when the games might be too significant for the Yanks to think about retaliation.

But I still wouldn't want to be Altuve the next time he stepped into the box against Chapman.



Houston moved their spring training out to West Palm. Still doesn't make sense though as they play the Nationals who they share the stadium with (tickets are already sold out) and the Yankees tend to do a weekend up in Jupiter when they play the Marlin's and Cardinals when they don't finish in Miami at the big league park.

My bad. I thought they were still in Kissimmee.
That was a bullshit interview  
The_Boss : 2/16/2020 9:23 am : link
If Correa thinks the masses are going to believe that shit about Altuveís wife and a bad tattoo, heís a moron. And Josh Reddick didnít want the help??? Right. Too bad they donít visit the Stadium until September.
RE: Wow, thatís pretty fucking stupid.  
5BowlsSoon : 2/16/2020 9:39 am : link
In comment 14811952 Leg of Theismann said:
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ďBecause his wife told my wife to tell me not to do that. Thatís why he was telling us not to do that.Ē

Thatís literally just random words strung together as a pitiful excuse for a sentence. That made no sense whatsoever.

I really donít understand how their title wasnít vacated. They flat-out cheated. Clearly broke the rules and there is hard evidence for it. Including their own admission to knowingly breaking the rules. How is their championship legitimate?? Thatís basically just sending the message that MLB rules are pretty much just suggestions, but if you break them you still get to win and keep your trophy. Wtf? What is the point of even having rules if you can break them and still get to keep your championship just as long as you arenít caught at the time youíre breaking them? If youíre caught AFTER the fact, oh well, thatís MLBís fault not Houstonís, therefore they get to keep their championship.

The sad thing is the real reason why they arenít vacating the title is because theyíd be afraid of ticket holders suing for their money back. I think thatís stupid. The ticket holders werenít paying for their team to win a championship, they were paying to watch MLB baseball with no guarantee of either team winning or losing. Now weíre simply going back and saying ďactually the Astros lost, because they cheated.Ē Same way if a team scores a game winning touchdown on the last play of the game and itís called back for holding. Game over. The fans donít get their money back simply because they thought for 5 seconds that their team won. Same thing here. You got what you paid for: MLB baseball. The outcome being changed after the fact doesnít warrant a class action law suit by the fans, itís unrelated.

Unless Iím mistaken: I donít think thereís any precedent for fans suing their own team for their vacated title?

Meanwhile it doesnít matter because the dodgers fans are apparently suing the Astros now. Not sure it will go anywhere but MLBís dickless attempt at avoiding lawsuit turned out to be pointless.

MLB and especially the commissioner are a bunch of fucking pussies.


+1

Well said Legs....I canít improve on it in any way so I wonít even try.
RE: Wow, thatís pretty fucking stupid.  
Eman11 : 2/16/2020 9:50 am : link
In comment 14811952 Leg of Theismann said:
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The sad thing is the real reason why they arenít vacating the title is because theyíd be afraid of ticket holders suing for their money back. I think thatís stupid. The ticket holders werenít paying for their team to win a championship, they were paying to watch MLB baseball with no guarantee of either team winning or losing. Now weíre simply going back and saying ďactually the Astros lost, because they cheated.Ē Same way if a team scores a game winning touchdown on the last play of the game and itís called back for holding. Game over. The fans donít get their money back simply because they thought for 5 seconds that their team won. Same thing here. You got what you paid for: MLB baseball. The outcome being changed after the fact doesnít warrant a class action law suit by the fans, itís unrelated.

Unless Iím mistaken: I donít think thereís any precedent for fans suing their own team for their vacated title?

Meanwhile it doesnít matter because the dodgers fans are apparently suing the Astros now. Not sure it will go anywhere but MLBís dickless attempt at avoiding lawsuit turned out to be pointless.

MLB and especially the commissioner are a bunch of fucking pussies.


If that's the case couldn't the same be said for every fan base in the league suing baseball for their money back in their games vs the Astros?

I know every team's fan base they faced in the playoffs in 17 could justify wanting thier money back and it seems to me that would cost more than just the Astros fans suing baseball if the title is vacated.
RE: I love that everyone hates the Stros now, join the movement  
LS : 2/16/2020 10:32 am : link
In comment 14811965 adamg said:
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I'm a Stros hater hipster. I hated them from the beginning of their AL run, when they had that douche bag Carlos Gomez. Then Altuve with his Napoleon complex. Fuck them. And fuck them for a long time.

I disliked them even before that. When they decided to tank and cut payroll to the bone, and put a crap team on the field for their fans.
RE: Baker wanting  
Matt M. : 2/16/2020 10:42 am : link
In comment 14811980 section125 said:
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for players getting hit...yeah ok. I do not advocate bean balls but absolutely favor brush back pitches. So if a ball gets a little off line to Altuve, who dives over the plate, the pitcher gets tossed and suspended?
If Manfred goes for that, the owners should fire him. Yes I can see protecting players from injury but you cannot give the Astros the advantage by threat of suspension for inside pitches. Plays right into their hands.
x1000
I honestly don't know what's worse  
Matt M. : 2/16/2020 10:44 am : link
The actual cheating or the way their entire organization is handling this. And the MLB Commissioner and his office are a joke in all of this.
I'm taking the under on the Astros this year  
MattyKid : 2/16/2020 2:29 pm : link
Their road games are going to be 82 days of pure hell. Congrats!
Well at least the players  
bigblue5611_2 : 2/16/2020 2:49 pm : link
are already calling this lame excuse out
Adam Jones calls BS - ( New Window )
baseball is alot like comic books  
RasputinPrime : 2/16/2020 4:36 pm : link
viewed in hindsight it says alot about the times.

What does this scandal say about the times we are living in right now when the Astros players are getting away without punishment and are busy lying publicly to people who won't stop until they prove the lies?
RE: baseball is alot like comic books  
beatrixkiddo : 2/16/2020 7:52 pm : link
In comment 14812187 RasputinPrime said:
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viewed in hindsight it says alot about the times.

What does this scandal say about the times we are living in right now when the Astros players are getting away without punishment and are busy lying publicly to people who won't stop until they prove the lies?


We live in the age of unaccountability, sad, but true. Wish people had some integrity and guts to hold people that are complicit with this accountable.
RE: Well at least the players  
Greg from LI : 2/16/2020 9:25 pm : link
In comment 14812144 bigblue5611_2 said:
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are already calling this lame excuse out Adam Jones calls BS - ( New Window )


And look who liked that post.....



And players just keep hammering the Asterisks  
Greg from LI : 2/16/2020 9:29 pm : link
This time, it's Yu Darvish, one the nicest, most laid-back guys in baseball, outright stating that the Astros need to be stripped of their championship.
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Darvish was lit up in the 2017 World Series  
bceagle05 : 2/16/2020 9:54 pm : link
and mocked by Gurriel on top of it. Glad he spoke up. His reputation took a huge hit after that series.
Did you hear..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/17/2020 8:49 am : link
Baker's comment??

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I'm just hoping that the league puts a stop to this before somebody gets hurt


Doesn't something actually have to "start" before putting a stop to it?
Chris Sale  
jestersdead : 2/17/2020 9:40 am : link
Is another player that came out and questioned things. Sale got hammered in Houston during the ALDS. Sale was roughed up for seven runs and nine hits in five innings as the lefty took the loss.
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I was standing out on the mound, I was like, ĎHow the hell are they doing (this)?íĒ he said. ďTheyíre hitting breaking balls over the fence. Hitting fastballs at their neck. And yeah, it crosses your mind. But what kind of idiot do you look like if they actually werenít?
Tommy Pham was another one  
Greg from LI : 2/17/2020 9:50 am : link
This really is amazing. I've never seen such universal condemnation like this.
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and it continues  
Greg from LI : 2/18/2020 9:19 am : link
Mike Trout: ‚ÄúThey cheated...I don‚Äôt agree with the punishment...I lost respect for some of those guys.‚ÄĚ ‚ÄúGoing up to the plate knowing what‚Äôs coming...that would be a lot of fun. You don‚Äôt know what helped them or what not. But if you know what‚Äôs coming, it‚Äôs going to definitely help you. It‚Äôs tough. Taking a trophy away, taking the rings away, I think they should definitely do something."

Justin Turner: "It all comes down to everyone keeps saying, 'The facts, the facts. You don't know the facts.' ... I don't think anyone knows the facts. I think everyone just wants to hear all the facts. And I think that the commissioner didn't do a good job of revealing all the facts."

Nick Markakis: ‚ÄúWhat they did was bullshit.... They deserve a beating.‚ÄĚ
Strippers  
Gruber : 2/18/2020 11:24 am : link
Strip the Astros of their World Series title, that will be the ultimate deterrent.
Then, find a way to replay the World Series between the Yankees and the Dodgers. It grieves me to write that as a Mets fan, but it would be the fairest thing.
Maybe make the All Star break a week longer, play it around the All Star game, exempting Yankee and Dodger players from the All Star game.
To me  
BigBlueShock : 2/18/2020 12:41 pm : link
Another fantastic part of Correas interview was saying Altuve didn‚Äôt want to participate in the cheating. Correa says that yeah, there were times the trash can got banged while Altuve was hitting but he didn‚Äôt want that and it made him angry! Notice, he admitted it was multiple times this happened. Obviously there is video evto support the fact that cans were getting banged on while Altuve was up and Correa knew he couldn‚Äôt deny that so went with this defense. So, let me get this straight. Tony Kemp, a rookie in ‚Äė17 told the team that he didn‚Äôt want to participate and they obliged. But Altuve, a well respected vet in the clubhouse said he did not want to participate, yet they still hit the trash can while he was batting? And multiple times? Haha. I guess rookie Tony Kemp had more influence than Altuve did!
RE: Schedule  
Carson53 : 2/18/2020 1:11 pm : link
In comment 14811971 Jim in Tampa said:
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I find it a little odd that the Yanks don't play the Astros in spring training this year. With their stadiums are just over an hour apart the teams have always scheduled a "home and home" in past years.

Yanks visit Houston in May (15-17) but the Astros don't come to Yankee Stadium until late Sept. (21-24) when the games might be too significant for the Yanks to think about retaliation.

But I still wouldn't want to be Altuve the next time he stepped into the box against Chapman.
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Why is it odd, the Yanks train in Tampa. The Astros are
on the east coast. Teams try to cut down on the travel
in ST, more and more each year. So, it's not odd to me.
Maybe Chapman won't throw three straight sliders like in the playoffs last year too. I don't think Altuve had a buzzer myself, whether people buy Correa's explanation or not. I think if you throw a great hitter three straight sliders, he might guess right.
RE: Chris Sale  
Kev in Cali : 2/18/2020 1:25 pm : link
In comment 14812409 jestersdead said:
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Is another player that came out and questioned things. Sale got hammered in Houston during the ALDS. Sale was roughed up for seven runs and nine hits in five innings as the lefty took the loss.

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I was standing out on the mound, I was like, ÔŅĹHow the hell are they doing (this)?ÔŅĹÔŅĹ he said. ÔŅĹTheyÔŅĹre hitting breaking balls over the fence. Hitting fastballs at their neck. And yeah, it crosses your mind. But what kind of idiot do you look like if they actually werenÔŅĹt?



Wow! I hadn't read this before....Something was up then I'm thinking....
RE: Strippers  
Matt M. : 2/18/2020 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14813192 Gruber said:
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Strip the Astros of their World Series title, that will be the ultimate deterrent.
Then, find a way to replay the World Series between the Yankees and the Dodgers. It grieves me to write that as a Mets fan, but it would be the fairest thing.
Maybe make the All Star break a week longer, play it around the All Star game, exempting Yankee and Dodger players from the All Star game.
Whether they get stripped or not, the WS isn't getting replayed. It either is a vacated title year, like 1994, or it gets awarded to the NL representative, which is unlikely.
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