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First mock draft with trade down and FA signings

Earl the goat : 2/16/2020 11:27 am
Boring Sunday

Trade down with Jaguars 4 for 9 and 20

1. Isiah Simmons OLB Clemson Hope he makes it to 9
1. Ken Murray ILB Oklahoma
2. Patrick Queen ILB LSU
3. Comp Akeem Gaither OLB Appalachian State
4. Kyle Duggar FS Lenoir Rhyne
5. Lavert Hill CB Michigan
6. Gabriel Davis WR Central Florida
7. Lamichael Perrine RB Florida
7. Taderalle Slayton DT Florida

Free Agent Signings
Jack Conklin RT. 4 years 60 million
Chris Jones. DE. 5 years 100 million
Leonard Williams. Tag Transition or Franchise
Joe Thuney. Center. I know he played guard for the Pats
4 years 44 million

Iím assuming 3-4 defense

Offensive line vastly improved. Not cutting Solder this year due to cap hit


Lots of speed added to LB corps after being ignored for so many years

Spent about 56 million in free agency
So you spent about  
section125 : 2/16/2020 11:31 am : link
$66 mill on free agents?

$20 mill on Chris Jones?
No OT nor WR  
Phil in LA : 2/16/2020 11:33 am : link
in a draft that is rich in OT's and WR's. Suboptimal.
RE: No OT nor WR  
Earl the goat : 2/16/2020 11:40 am : link
In comment 14812061 Phil in LA said:
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in a draft that is rich in OT's and WR's. Suboptimal.


Rd 6

Signed two offensive lineman in FA
The team  
Professor Falken : 2/16/2020 11:43 am : link
that hasn't drafted a first round LB in 35 years is suddenly going to draft LBs with it's first four picks?
Hope is not a plan.  
81_Great_Dane : 2/16/2020 11:46 am : link
Very unlikely Simmons falls to #9. If you want Simmons, you donít trade down that far.

Since you are cluster-drafting linebackers I assume you want him BADLY.
...  
BleedBlue : 2/16/2020 11:47 am : link
this is pretty bad.

why chris jones AND williams?

we already have lawerence, tomlinson, hill....

its WAY too much invested in DL. i would be willing ot bet if Williams is retained, there is zero chance we sign a DL


too many LBers in draft IMO. need to come away with an OL early IMO
Two things  
Torrag : 2/16/2020 11:48 am : link
It appears the Jags like Minshew and Foles for this year and it's looking doubtful they will be moving up.

Second, I'd handicap it at 95% that Simmons is gone by #9. So you put in a lot of effort, which we all appreciate, to float a scenario that is highly unlikely to materialize imo.

RE: So you spent about  
section125 : 2/16/2020 11:48 am : link
In comment 14812059 section125 said:
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$66 mill on free agents?

$20 mill on Chris Jones?


Neither of us can add:

Jones $20
Conklin $15
Williams $18
Thuney $11

$64 mill. That is not happening.
Also, if we sign Jones to what would be a mega contract...  
Torrag : 2/16/2020 11:49 am : link
then there is almost no chance we spend an additional $17M on tagging LW. Zero.
In a draft class supposedly littered  
BlueLou'sBack : 2/16/2020 12:02 pm : link
with good OT prospects at various tiers from early through the mid rounds, littered with WR in a similar range, and largely bereft of high quality LBs so much so that the best LB prospect is really a safety...

You have the Giants drafting 3 LBs.


There's not a snowball's chance in hell of that happening, because it's a really bad idea and execution.
Donít like it  
Bleedin Blue : 2/16/2020 12:32 pm : link
No OT, I know you said sign two O-Linmen FA , but we gotta draft a young O-Linman and definitely a WR. This draft is full of OlL and WR, and we donít draft any?????
Donít think Simmons falling to 9  
Payasdaddy : 2/16/2020 12:33 pm : link
My trade down would be Charger or panthers
Pick up a 3 and 4
Slight trade down in 2nd to pick up xtra 4
Sign Conklin, Littleton or comparable 3 down ILb to pair with healthy Connelly. Veteran cb or safety for back 7. Total FA spend 40 million
Resigning L Williams approx 14 per. Cut the usual suspects. Bethel, ogletree, Ellison and Martin. Safe 20 million. Leaves 25 million for cap for rookies and extensions.

Looking to save the big splash ER or cherry on top true #1 WR till 2021. Canít do everything in a yr. team has holes.

1)defense. Simmons. Hybrid ol/ rover / all over the place
2) C Ruiz
3) OT. Prince W
3)Wr Pittman
8 more draft picks left. Trade a 4th for a #3 next yr
With 7 left , tons of defensive depth and possibly TE and RB. Would love a move the chains RB for the things saquon doesnít do great. Plus both on the field with saquon in space more often. Never against a mid rd TE who can block and can develop. Even though we have kaden S as possiblY solid 2nd TE. Who knows whatís up with Engrem.





Not a single OL in your entire draft!  
BillT : 2/16/2020 12:47 pm : link
Jerry Reese would be proud.
You got a start thinking long term  
Reb8thVA : 2/16/2020 12:58 pm : link
Your OL approach is another stop gap approach. Jones, Barkley and to a certain extent Judge and Gettlemanís future will depend on their ability to get the OL fixed with a long term durable solution. You want to sign Conklin fine, but you need to find Solders replacement in this draft and a long term answer for center.
First 4 picks of the draft are linebackers?  
Vin_Cuccs : 2/16/2020 1:14 pm : link
Not a good use of resources.
RE: First 4 picks of the draft are linebackers?  
Del Shofner : 2/16/2020 1:18 pm : link
In comment 14812111 Vin_Cuccs said:
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Not a good use of resources.


Yeah, can't see any way that's happening.
I give you credit for creativity  
Manning10 : 2/16/2020 1:34 pm : link
Maybe you have a little Tooo much time on your hands.
Its basically a pipe dream:

Simmons will not last till then.
Conklin will be in high demand and the Giants will have to over pay because they are in a High Tax state so think more like 64 - 68 million.
Jones Not Likely.
I think the Giants will go higher on a Receiver maybe 2nd or 4th round.

I like the 3 LBers you drafted  
Simms11 : 2/16/2020 1:46 pm : link
but not three straight picks in first three rounds. I see them grabbing one in first two rounds and an olineman in first or second also. I also like the Dugger pick. Conklin is a very strong possibility if they can get him. I think we have enough resources invested in Dline and so I say no to an expensive Chris Jones.
Callahan  
OC2.0 : 2/16/2020 3:44 pm : link
Pretty sure heís still on the team.
Hate this draft  
WillVAB : 2/16/2020 4:05 pm : link
Not a single ER or OL.
Better get more than #9 and #20...  
BMac : 2/16/2020 4:28 pm : link
...like at least a third and possibly a 2021 pick too.
Great troll job  
Breeze_94 : 2/16/2020 5:09 pm : link
taking LB's with the first 4 picks.

Round 1 should be Wills if they stay at 4, but I can see trading down a few picks and picking Wirfs...rumor is DG is high on him

Upgrading the OL will help get the most out of DJ and Saquon, the franchises biggest investments in the last 2 offseasons.
Itís a good effort  
GiantsFan84 : 2/16/2020 5:29 pm : link
But you didnít leave enough money to fill out the roster. Canít do what you did with your signings.

With regards to your draft you have good players but you donít have an OT until late. I understand solder is still on the team and if you sign Conklin you donít really have a need for one.
RE: Hate this draft  
GiantsFan84 : 2/16/2020 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14812177 WillVAB said:
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Not a single ER or OL.


Iím not in love with ER in this draft. Canít force a pick
RE: I like the 3 LBers you drafted  
Reale01 : 2/16/2020 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14812121 Simms11 said:
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but not three straight picks in first three rounds. I see them grabbing one in first two rounds and an olineman in first or second also. I also like the Dugger pick. Conklin is a very strong possibility if they can get him. I think we have enough resources invested in Dline and so I say no to an expensive Chris Jones.


Dugger will not last that long.
RE: RE: Hate this draft  
WillVAB : 2/16/2020 7:27 pm : link
In comment 14812221 GiantsFan84 said:
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Not a single ER or OL.



Iím not in love with ER in this draft. Canít force a pick


Iíd draft Epenesa or Becton over Simmons.

I also wouldnít pay 11 mil per for a Center in FA. Iíd rather draft a Center w the 2nd or 3rd round pick.
You lost me with Simmons at 9.  
Giant John : 2/16/2020 9:31 pm : link
Not happening. Too far to drop.
RE: RE: RE: Hate this draft  
uconngiant : 2/16/2020 10:55 pm : link
In comment 14812260 WillVAB said:
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In comment 14812177 WillVAB said:


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Not a single ER or OL.



Iím not in love with ER in this draft. Canít force a pick



Iíd draft Epenesa or Becton over Simmons.

I also wouldnít pay 11 mil per for a Center in FA. Iíd rather draft a Center w the 2nd or 3rd round pick.
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Simmons is maybe the best player in the draft, yes I said the draft. He won't be there at 9 but is better than Epenesa or Becton. The Giant's can get a offensive lineman in round two.
CBS mock has Simmons going 9  
Vanzetti : 2/16/2020 11:13 pm : link
SB Nation has him going 14

So Earl is in line with other mocks. And DG did cluster draft DBs last year

So not as outlandish as some are saying
i would think we sign LBs in FA  
Rudy5757 : 2/19/2020 1:35 pm : link
and build up the OL in the draft. If we trade down to 9 I would think we get one of the Top OTs or if Simmons is there you take him and still get an OL later. Either a OT or C.

I dont like Simmons for the Giants. He is not a powerful player and I think he would be a better late 1st round pick. I see him as a better college player than NFL player. He can get by on speed alone in college, he will get manhandled in the NFL. just my opinion.
Draft  
NateDogg14 : 2/23/2020 1:12 pm : link
Lots of areas of need for sure. . . I would just like to see the Giants trade down for more picks. Something like getting 18, 26, and 70 from the Dolphins, which would equal the 1800 point value of the 4th pick. So we end up with two firsts and a third for the #4 pick. Seems like great value to me. We can address LT, C, RT, WR, LB, Edge, S, CB through the draft and FA, but they need more picks. I would like them to solidify the OL.
Looks good Earl  
LBH15 : 2/23/2020 1:22 pm : link
Just erase the Leonard Williams thing and then send this onto Gettleman.
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